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ogaju007: Please leave Oledepo ooo afterall if you need babe to relax just go to one of these so called churches and before you know it you will have a chik straight up. Mumu people they've lost the whole purpose of christianity.

lolaxavier: I don't really understand why we Nigerians have refused to open our eyes to see the truth. I don't care what anyone says but the honest truth is that these so-called pastors are milking unfortunate congregation. It is so amazing how some people will put their lives at stake to support issues that are clearly visible from the surface. You did not build that school with offering and tithe, so where did you get the money from? People pledged and donated to build that monument, true indeed. And the so-called jets too...He claims to make his own money, right, attributing all to God's blessings. Yes, fine, God blesses people but I don't want to believe God can be that selfish to let just one man gulp all that when millions are out there suffering. Let's call a spade a spade. His supporters will ask who gave the right to judge but believe, this has nothing with judgement, it has to do with calling a spade a spade. What a shame...

lolaxavier: I don't really understand why we Nigerians have refused to open our eyes to see the truth. I don't care what anyone says but the honest truth is that these so-called pastors are milking unfortunate congregation. It is so amazing how some people will put their lives at stake to support issues that are clearly visible from the surface. You did not build that school with offering and tithe, so where did you get the money from? People pledged and donated to build that monument, true indeed. And the so-called jets too...He claims to make his own money, right, attributing all to God's blessings. Yes, fine, God blesses people but I don't want to believe God can be that selfish to let just one man gulp all that when millions are out there suffering. Let's call a spade a spade. His supporters will ask who gave the right to judge but believe, this has nothing with judgement, it has to do with calling a spade a spade. What a shame...

Eziachi: You should equate King Solomon to world rulers like Presidents, Kings etc not Oyedepo. He is not a king. He claimed to be a man annoited by God, just like Samuel, Jeremiah, Elijah and those apostles after Jesus like Peter, James and John. Those are the one you should be equating with Oyedepo with their life and style of life. Gullibility is a disease and it rest on the brain.
If really know your bible as t you seem to suggest, King Solomon, is hardly an exemplary character to be following, when it come to being loyal to his creator-an idol worshiper and fornicator whose actions ended up causing Israel to be divided. Some of you need serious help, but it might be too late.

Eziachi: You should equate King Solomon to world rulers like Presidents, Kings etc not Oyedepo. He is not a king. He claimed to be a man annoited by God, just like Samuel, Jeremiah, Elijah and those apostles after Jesus like Peter, James and John. Those are the one you should be equating with Oyedepo with their life and style of life. Gullibility is a disease and it rest on the brain.
If really know your bible as t you seem to suggest, King Solomon, is hardly an exemplary character to be following, when it come to being loyal to his creator-an idol worshiper and fornicator whose actions ended up causing Israel to be divided. Some of you need serious help, but it might be too late.

Vanneni: How many jets has he bought so far? It's only one na...

Vanneni: Do you mean no one spoke out to say the men of God are lying or to affirm that they are telling the truth

Eziachi: Because you crooked idea of God's blessing is simply gets rich and that is simply the theme of your pastors. People like you will never knew the air you breathing, sunshine, Snow, Sunshine, photosynthesis that makes our food to grow and beautiful plants and animals around us is God's blessing. Unless you becomes over night rich, God hates you. The Chinese and Russian economy is booming, these people don't even believe in God, if money is the blessing, I wonder if God was drunk when he made them prosperous.
Many past and modern kings are not God lovers, it never stop them becoming rich, how does that supports your theory of riches equal God's blessing?

bankylan: @Modicum.....This is just too shallow......Trying to find the source of wealth of a man God has blessed by applying logic is pretty dumb.

While young men like you are giving millions of naira for the work of God, you put yourself in a position of one of the poor that will rather be looking for a man of God to give to them.
I have never seen a blessed man criticize men of God that are blessed..it has always been the pastime of the poor, the jobless, and the frustrated. You can claim to be a Christian by religion. But being a Christian by religion does not guarantee you success and wealth if you don't follow the principle of Jesus Christ. Covenant university if built by the giving of young men and women who understand the principle of Christ. My friend is one of those people that gave to Covenant even while he was struggling as a man. Today, God has blessed him.

Young man, I don't pray for money....I only need to look for opportunity to sow.

Have you wondered why your criticism has not affected the men of God. Do want to say you are more intelligent than thousands of believers that go to winners on Sundays and worship God with their substance. I am not a member of winners, but I pray God bless me more so that I can sow into the ministry. I need to tap a grace there.
Watch out, my own private jet is coming.....If I can afford one, I will buy one...if I can build a University, I will build one.

Eziachi: It shows how wicked Jesus say many like you will become by twisting God's word to suit your evil actions.
What apostle Paul was referring to there to the Corinthians is not about them acquiring new houses or the latest chariots, the materialism he is referring is the direct physical benefit one get when a spiritual seed sown in a person works.

For a example-1 If you you are to sow a spiritual seed in a person, maybe to help and successfully convince a smoker, a gambler or a drug abuser to stop doing those things, he will reap the material benefit of a good health, better use the money he spent on smoking or drug/gambling.
He is not talking about be accumulation of material money wealth as a direct link to a successful spiritual seed.

-2 If the spiritual seed sown is to work in many of us and we becomes good people, the material benefit is that we will have less crime victims, less money building and maintaining prisons and the money will be then used for other better things and less tax and that benefits everybody.
That is what apostle Paul is talking about.
This how your you and your pastors twist God's word to suit what you are doing. And you claim to know the scriptures. Shame.

erico2k2: I dont have any qualms wether he built it with church money or not.what we should realy question is what was the reason for the building of the uni.is ot for profit or to help people .Now how and howmany people has he hwlped.should the wisdom and knowledge of God be used as a means to accumulate wealth?

stuhporh: My dear freind, dont be an hypo**** or maybe its what you are. the way it is in christianity, its same in all religion, but those who seek the light and knows the truth, and in it loves his neighbour hurts, when his neighbour follows a blind man. the case is not to criticize a man of GOD, instead, it is too make ourselves aware of either the obvious, or obvious concealed behind religious belief.

Lucasbalo: Like we say in chitown, the guy is a hustler.

Eziachi: Those who read the bible upside down. Jesus paid taxes to the occupying Roman govt in Israel, when he is not required by law to pay.
Apostles like Paul left his law profession to concentrate on his ministry, but on part time basis makes tent to support himself and not relying on the congregation members. He did not receive or cajole to receive the latest chariot or Sea freight as gift from rich members of the congregation, especially in such prosperous cities like Ephesus.

stuhporh: King solomon was a king, and recieved royalties as a king, decrees to use any land animal or even human at any point in time. by the way the popular temple he built, was big, yes. but that is due to the enormous human work force he put in to it. the silvers and ornament is like asking how oba Oniru got so many lands to his Possesion. A King my brother, chairs over everything on earth except GOD. "as at then" It might intrest you to know that DONALD TRUMP was investigated the year he made his most million of dollars. He was able to proove how he got loan to buy of some properties that came to pay up to 120pcent of capital.

A failed system is what makes a ritualist with no traces of buisness deals to come out and say he is rich in NIGERIA. One day when Police stops you in your car, and follows you home to know your source of income, you will ask yourself, why not Oyedepo or King Solomon, why me?

jt2010: If this your statement "I'm aware Oyedele has oil rig which he received as gift" is correct, then i guess the pastor need to spent some time in EFCC's cell.

stuhporh: What? built + 7months = compare fed govt
how about private = president, senate, rep, ministers
better still Globacom = Nitel
you gat'b kidding me!!!!

Personally it's not my business where he got his money from , don't muzzle the
Ox that tread the vine

We (Nigerians) need to stop thinking this way. we need to know where he got money from.
This shows inability of crime investigation units. this man should be interviewed for interogations. WHERE DID YOU GET THE MONEY

Leadn: Oyedepo??
Dude is a thief that would die by the sword, so why bother disturbing yurself

PapaBrowne: A display of absolute ignorance.
And it is this attitude that bedevils this country.

The Governor of a state which you belong, steals billions and buys lavish properties in Dubai ... You say nothing, you do nothing. Infact, many of your type celebrate his crass performance.

A Pastor, whose members are extremely happy with his leadership, builds the best University in Nigeria, charges a fee below the cost of training a student.... you come here feeling smart attacking his explanation. That he cared to explain sef is a favour to he has done for you which you should be extremely thankful for!!

First you are not a member of his organisation. Secondly, his members are extremely happy with him. I've talked to winners members and they feel like part owners of the institution. This idea of taking panadol for someone else's headache is a key symptom of the pull him down syndrome prevalent in our society.

When you have the influence of someone of Oyedepo's class, you can turn anything to money. Do you have any idea what it means to have over 5 million people take the word that spews from your mouth as authority over their lives? If you publish a book, they buy in droves. If you give a speech, they buy the CDs in numbers. Whatever you do turns to wealth. And they buy because they benefit. Its not business. It is just what it is. Anybody that influences lives would be wealthy.
The gifts alone that accrue to these guys because of the influence God has endowed them with and the lives they've touched.

Please Mr Pessimist, do the maths yourself. Afterwards, ask yourself this question. Why is it that these churches keep getting bigger. Why is it that members stay put and are willing to pay tithes, give offerings, buy more books and CDs.And the members I reference are Bank Managers, Successful Businessmen, Doctors, Lawyers and in a nutshell, people with the capacity to thing for themselves. Stroll into a church and you see well dressed individuals with chubby faces and a car park filled with the best cars you can find in town.
These people are capable of thinking for themselves. They don't need your help.

stuhporh: What? built + 7months = compare fed govt
how about private = president, senate, rep, ministers
better still Globacom = Nitel
you gat'b kidding me!!!!

modicum: Bishop David Oyedepo may be right altogether in his assertion that the Covenant University was not built with tithes and offerings of parishioners. There are some possible scenarios and some very impossible ones in considerations here. Let's start with the impossible ones first

1.) He couldn't have raised the funds to build the university from the royalty he gets from his books
2.) He couldn't have done same from any form of income he makes that are legitimate (I will like to be taken up on that).
3.) He couldn't have done it with any partner(s) from abroad known or unknown.

The possibilities could be any or combination of the following
1.) Such huge funds could only be raised by investors that do not want to be named, which means it is a venture or an investment that pays dividends. That possibility is remote but could be advanced.
2.) He could have raised money from Capital market to do it, but no data to back up that argument publicly or secretly.
3.) Or is it possible that Oyedepo is being used to front private University by some powerful entity who doesn't want to be seen or known. Very remote possibility.
4.) Such huge funds can also be easily sourced if Oyedepo is into Oil deals and collecting subsidies (we just heard about one Folorunso Alakija topping Oprah's money as the richest woman in the world). There is huge money in the Nigeria Oil sector to be made, and I remember Obasanjo calling the prominent Nigerian Pastors contractors in religious cloak. Very high possibility if what Oyedepo claim is true
5.) The only other possibility is that Oyedepo is lying about his story. That's about 90% possible with me.

If you disown the people at a critical time like this then something is startegically wrong somewhere. Every missionary institution that I was born to see in Nigeria claim they built everything with donations and offerings of people elsewhere. This case is very different and we need to critically examine it.

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doctokwus: As painful& annoying as d story sounds,there are always 2sides to a story.Op wasn't obviously there wen d assault happened;let's not crucify d guy b4 hearing a truthful account of all dat transpired;d assault however,if found to av bn done not in self-defence is highly condemnable& d culprit shd b brought to justice

aribisala0: You have said that several times the nature of religious conflict leading to violence is refusal to accept that people do not agree with you. If you want to preach your good news create a thread or start a church.
It is clear you are trying to derail this thread and I advise you to stop

aribisala0: You are an 1diot just like i believe both your parents are.Can you leave people to believe what they like and stop trying to force feed people your bullshit

tEsLim: Now how stupid is it for someone to cover his eyes with blood? Does he wants to go blind. I guess the blood of Jesus must be some 1billion gallons.

ifeness: Shut up!

ifeness: Blood right? Human sacrifices again.