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EoD... This encapsulates it....

As for that false dollar scarcity theory, it was a knee jerk reaction to prevent the "beneficiaries" of the election dollar torrential rainfall/flooding from being able to do wire transfer out of the country!!!

It wasn't to create a false naira appreciation... Bank rate held steady at 197-199, why then would any rational + logical being swallow that theory

Nigerians however are criminal minded & they either kept them in safes or septic tanks, they also got couriers to travel with out of the country with cash...



*mic drop* ... I wan do vigil for oil price to rise ..cos without it, na OYO for naira stability & diversification of our economy.!

@ TonyeBarcanista ...

Since you are adamant about Putting the blame on Buhari & Emefiele, you are free to, cool if that's what suits you but I just need you to indulge me & answer two question...

1.How long can we keep financing out import dependent lifestyle perpetually without judgement day finally dawning on us as a nation??

2. Who & what will you direct the blame for Saudi, UAE, Venezuela, Angola etc current economic woes to ?



LRNZH ... My takeaway from this debate is that the IB is truly a "Lucky" fellow, he created a giant & slippery clusterbleep & got out just in time before its implosion...

If the oil price decline had started in July 2013 & not 2014, OP here wouldn't be penning this rumination of his selective thought process.

ucystan:
Lol... Wetin I do nah...

You know nah!

PassingShot:
Surprised that you could even think that any other Northerner apart from PMB could be considered or favoured by the South in 2019.

Don't be surprised, he doesn't understand that not everything can be gleaned from blogs/online, some things need real life experiences / convos...

He actually posited in the run up to the 2015 polls that Ogun politics was firmly under the grips of Osoba & he was going to take SIA to the cleaners...

He also claimed Ladoja was the Don Dada of OYO!! Wish he hadn't deactivated that moniker, you for laugh ehn...

Barca is a friend in my head but he is a comedian most of the time...

BTW, I love the comeback you gave that fellow about "poverty"... so matured!!!

anonimi:
It should be easy for you to provide facts & figures from reliable sources that tell the other half & your side of bias stories, not so

I am not into "Try hard" in order to "browbeat" people into aligning with my bias, most people aren't daft, we are ALL sentimental though but most don't need to be spoon fed, they can make their own deductions from course of events.....

If indeed the "Forros" served their purpose like you intended, the narrative today would be different...

Ucystan .. you are a weekend someborry!!

francizy:
By the way, you talked about anonimi being biased, never seen you being objective either...

I will never claim to be non partisan but i have the sense not to ever defend the indefensible..

I also gracefully keep mute when I know the discuss won't serve the country well but some of here have decided to toe a path that they won't even glance sideways from to check what else is out there!!

anonimi:
Be informed.
Redeem yourself.
Below is a thread with just a sample of what Jonathan achieved in five years.

Ano, not foto & links, how did Ojo, Chinedu & Danladi 's wellbeing improve?

The govs asked for their statutory rights I hope you know &as is constitutional, FG kept the Lion's share..

This is not about being partisan... how did the lives of folks on minimum wage with kids in UBEB schools, etc fare... dazall.

francizy:
He gives you facts and figures, so do good to disprove them...

Facts & figures that only tell half & his side of bias stories! Issokay!!




@ sirshymexx

Shy, howdy? Take care.

anonimi:
Have you asked the 36 governors who insisted on sharing the JOINT Federation Account and the ECA

Let's agree the 36 govs forced hero's hands & they took out the state's share from the ECA, what happened to the FG's share nah? Did it Evaporate?

omonnakoda:
I don't think anyone can be worse than Iweala. In our history she is the Finance Minister that has received the most revenue and strangely the one who borrowed the most so add her borrowing to oil revenue she has had the most money to spend .What do we have to show for it? Oil price dropped and everything collapsed.

She received 52% of total revenue from Federation account and spent it all and blamed the governors for that because they rightly insisted on their share which was less that 30%
Why did she not save the FG share?

Just get ready for anonimi's forro assault for this ya kweshion....

According to his pictoral ads, Amaechi (+ other govs help) after getting the states share of the ECA, bewitched the IB (federal share) & ensured that all the years of plenty didn't translate into better living for Nigerians...

Obiagelli:
Ok, thanks. Good host he was

Babe, I have no argument about it being Arthur Eze's house but both furnitures aren't the same...

Howdy, nice weekend...

Boss13:
The process of extracting leather from animal hides is the same. Leather is leather. The difference is manufacturing process. Which can be sorted out by providing adequate finance for the Aba shoemakers.

Also, the names you called are brand names. People patronizing them are paying a premium price for the brand because they want to differentiate themselves. There is nothing so special with the Gucci or Hermes Bag, just the brand and I must admit they have leverage and can employ creative designers into their studio.

Boss, try & comprehend my points before rushing to fault my argument....

There is nothing like all leather are the same..

Capitalists all over the world on their own source for start up "capital"/ "resources" & any profit (-tax) that accrues to them is entirely theirs , it is not the responsibility of the state(s), all the state can do is just provide favourable biz conditions... e.g oplace heavy tax on imported shoes.

No matter how cheaply the leather was procured, a top quality handbag can't be bought for 10k... The designer bags cost upwards of 200k+ & I only used them as illustration cos ladies are carrying around 6k "chanel" bags & you can't tell them nothing despite the glaring bags of errors they are carryoing around (Pun intended ) ....

No matter how we try to slice & dice it, a good Italian shoe (not brand name Fendi, Feraggamo, just regular good quality) won't sell for 5k while 10k won't get anyone a good handbag either.....

Try & digest my point before picking holes... thx.



Cc elxandre .. nice point,thx .. have you watched leather goods production process as well? I have, it's pure craftmanship..

FTBOY:
hohoho....i laugh! and you want me to believe that the pair of shoes you posted is worth 5k?

Not at all, it's 1k tire shoes... my five boyfriends drop 2h each to complete the mo sef.. see the other one, dem gather buy for me for falantain's day join the akara & choco milo in place of cake & chocolate..

Shey you can agree with me that I need an Aba shoemaker to upgrade me.

gistme24:
Great question, hope he answers.

He sidestepped it, he knows he can't provide any valid or logical answer...

ckmayoca:
10- 30 usd shoes plenty for UK store well well and before naira lost its value, it's was not up to 5k. Our travellers bring them down and sell for 7-10k claiming it's us and won't last 2wks if wore daily.

I'm talking real Italian leather not regular high streets shoes...the argument is not about quality, it's the name & catchet "ITALIAN" made.. dazall.

I dont know why people quote & comment without full understanding of the context!!

Nothing is wrong with 3k shoes, I buy knockabout slippers of 2k but do you really believe genuine Italian leather shoes could ever retail at even 10k?

It's like a lady paying 8k for a bag & believing it's real Michael Kors/Coach/Fendi/Marc Jacobs / Channel/ Gucci bag just cos the name is emblazoned on it....

Aba shoes quality is not the Topic, it's the branding...

FTBOY:
nonsense! how much shoes can you afford. i mean you......not the one your boyfriends buy for you?

See all the boyfriends put together can afford sef, make I find Aba boyfriend for shoes sake.

UrbanMystique:
and what happened to 5k shoes?

Are you saying there are no less 10 dollar shoes in Italy?

Real leather shoes for 10$, CBN's 2k? BM 3.5K? Really Issokay.

[quote author=Scholes007 ]...

Thank God you accepted that at least the bags were bagged in nigeria.[/quote]Bagged in Nigeria but not Nigerian rice, does that not point to the fact that it was a dummy sold? & you are fine with that Issokay then.. excuse my french..

Thought the aim was to make the country wholy tuned to made in Nigeria rice & not sneak in foreign rice & bag under the cover of darkness

i don't care about what you watched online ok. All i care/know is that there was a significant increase in rice production in nigeria. But since you said i should not mention it, so be it.

You won't care because you don't want to see evidence the Ebonyi local rice producers gave to bust the misrepresentation of Hero concerning increase in local production boost, & the smoke & mirror it was, pls try and find it to watch, Ebonyi people are SEners , they won't sell anti Hero propaganda..

i. What was the situation of power and it infrastruct before 2010? How was it at the end of 2014? Jonathan made a great impact on the power sector where more than $6billion was spent on power infrastruction alone.

Be honest, did the 6bn translate to improvement in power? There is a difference between making an investment & the expectation of the return on investments...

ii. Between 2005-2010 what was the situation of our refinaries? How is it today?
Some of us have a very short memory to forget that the functioning refinary now was revived by jonathan which can to service under the present administration... [/quote ]

Refineries? Issokay but We still import 70% of PMS today..

[quote]if you want to defend buhari with this $30 per/barrel you should tell us or you spare us with this know excuse of $30 thank you.

Tribal bias is not a bad thing but it is dangerous when it makes us totally incapable of being objective, Do pure water factories make the same amount of sale they do during rainy season as they do in extreme heat/dry season... Read & do research about same things , it won't likely change your position but would change your understanding of how things work & are supposed to be.

We are clearly on opposite sides with different sentiments , so it's best to let go & not drag further, so let's agree to disagree, Thx. .

Can't blame them, they have to make ends meet..but anyone buying a 5k shoe & believing it was really made in Italy is a joker..

WhoRUDeceiving:
, and then died a third time when Jona, an Ijaw man, was betrayed by the same region. So for the East and Midwest, that brother hood with Yoruba politically is only by mouth. Na for a beer, that's another story

I've asked this question severally but instead of response, the respondent dishes insults/ abuses, so i will greatly appreciate if you can answer objectively...

Did the South West Promise Jona their 2015 votes?

What about the 85% votes he got in '11 & the 40% that voted for him in 2015?

Can you also be nice enough to explain if it's fair for one tribe to claim to have a mind of their own & pitch their tents where they are at a better advantage but vilify another tribe for toeing a path that will favour them as well..

Thanks in anticipation of a clear &, concise reaponse..

jesse515:
I am not here to rant n exchange words wit u, m only here to warn u about ur lies, de av bin noticed , n u shudnt use ur hands to cos spiritual problems for ur sef by tellin lies just to defend ur clueless master.

The afta life is real.

By who, if i may ask? Have your paymasters resorted to asking you to threaten posters online ?

Also try and polish the way you write, it's mind numbing.

FOD, puskin, lalasticlala, Dominique, seun ... Thx..

Scholes007:
sane and patriotic nigerian you said?
If you say someone is a the greatest failure as a sane and patriotic nigerian you should bring proofs why you said he is a disaster else you are been sentimental at the same time massaging you blunt ego of high intelligence.
Nigerian leaders are all failures including buhari. For almost one year now all we have been hearing is arrest,recovered and unnecessary distraction from buhari lead administration with no exact direction or progress that seem to right the apc self acclaimed wrongs by Dr jonathan adminstration.

I sincerely didn't get the arrangement of words in the first paragraph but I'm going to assume i have an idea & ask you a question ? Show us "visible impact" of your hero on the lives of average Nigerians....( Please don't mention that Rice thing ooo, it has been busted, it has already been established that the rice is brought in from Asia & bagged under the cover of darkness with "Made in Nigeria sacks" .... I watched a doccie about Ebonyi rice farmers, you can access it online.. )

I need just 2 & i'm good..

Also posit (You don't need to be an economics guru, just use commonsense & give it a shot) how Nigeria is supposed to fare with a 30$ oil price (bearing in mind we produce nothing worthwhile & we 90% import dependent ) when the population far exceeds the income + the state of the Nation's infrastructures.... Thank you...

jesse515:
Wat ar u even defending? U see d truth but u choose to spread lies. Pmb n his economic team ar clueless, dia is no way Nigeria wud av bin dis bad under GEJ even if oil sold for 5 dollar a barrel. B4 u com to spread lies abt ECA n reserve, pls remember ameachi n campagn funding.

Finally, I hope u believe in life afta death n also believe d life we live now determines were we will be afta death, cos d lies u ar spreading will determine were u will stay afta death.

The Jonathan's government sold oil for 100$+ for a couple of years & all these got done...

1. The perpetual power problem was sorted & we now have at least "25hrs" of supply ,

2. The comatose Manufacturing sector got a new lease of life, factories are springing up left right & center & we presently produce all we need & even are exporting sef.

3. The CBN intervened & banks now give farmers loan at 5% flat with flexible payment schedule

4.The East got 2nd Niger Bridge..Lag-IB road fixed as well.

5. The whole country is now accessible by rail

6. Otuoke is now a tourist attraction....

The IB's govt was the best thing to happen to Nigerians, see as he "transformed" Nigeria !!!!


I can't join issues with you ,i can only set you straight as you are one of the "Na our pikin" type, you also need to learn how to express yourself & write better...

All i will just say is You "work" (can't be straightforward or deserved position) with politicians & you are here cursing someone & mentioning "hell" cos you are bitter about Amaechi ? Oh em gee, the jokes write themselves..

Lame people can blame PMB as much as they like but it won't distract Sane & Patriotic Nigerians from deducing that the two unrelated events of

1. Driving Bullion Vans into CBN to pack FX to distribute to party members for an undeserved term elongation

&

2.The catastrophic fall of global oil price +glut with no reserve in place to speak of +Zero infrastructure in place to cushion the effects nor any other commodity to bring in the needed funds to run the country are responsible for the dire economic straits the country is presently facing....

Not lliking PMB's tribe, calling another set betrayers doesn't negate the fact that the IB can't point to one tangible progress Otuoke, Bayelsa or Nigeria made under him which is why he and his nest of killers party self destructed & crashed at the polls..

However sentiments , bad belle & religious bias are allowed.. People need something to soothe their souls.


Midolian, how are you? Life treating you nice i believe..

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francizy:
Mehn! This is damn hilarious!!!
See one of them bellow:

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See this guy ooo, you had to mention me amongst folks that want to draw &quarter Mo

Wish I didn't have a sense of humour but I do & I LOLed for real! ... even gave the dude a like, not for content though, but for his delivery & the way he made it seem so real..

Dude should fine tune this & try his hand at script writing, got a knack for painting pictures with words......

tonte:
How is this a luxury? How? It's like comparing education to champagne consumption...the latter is the luxury....a parent would work his bottom off to give his child the best most quality education available and you will come here to pronounce it as luxury....

Mr or Mrs wisdom unlimited calling others names cos you disagree with them is not "ignorant"... well done, felt like setting you straight though....,

Not everything is emotional driven... education enhances life & living but it still is a LUXURY when there are options locally...

Dubai furnitures last longer & are more beautiful but it becomes a luxury when you have to sweat to acquire...

Some send their kids to GHANA!! Ghana in the name of foreign education when Babcock & Convenant are right there...

Fyi, I have people doing graduate studies abroad after 1st degree back here but that doesn't make it less of a Luxury, Unilag & UNN also have PG schools!!!

omenka:
I heard he and Idumuose of blessed memory are election riggers. They once rigged for Jagaban (as revealed my Idumuose). Seems his bitterness stems from the fact he wasn't paid in full for his job.

He already owned up but the story still doesn't add up!!

Firefire:
That was actually the beginning of my grouse with BAT & OBJ.

I sponsored a candidate back then when the looter created additional LG in LAG., and OBJ as the president request PDP members not to participate in the vote as he would cancel the LG election, we boycotted the election as advised, all the spends became a waste and OBJ could not stop the fruadulent additional LG BAT created before finally converting same to LCDA. Thanks to Pastor Prof. Osinbajo. (The pastor behind the professional looter, offering professional legal service to the crook).

And what we see thereafter was the handpicking of candidates from his bedroom in Bourdillon without recourse to due process and democratic principles.

Imagine, the imperial capitalist is now the biggest landlord in Africa at the expense of the people.

Great that the traders have temporary succour, these are trying times...

What then happens when the stock of the major Lagos,Aba & Kano importers runs out? Did our industries quietly & suddenly get a new lease of life?

This is mere band aid.... our manufacturing sector is comatose..

dunkem21:
The same thing I asked the zombie that said schooling abroad is a luxury ..


Mo, are we on the same page to agree that the President's family is living a *LUXURIOUS life .. and they dont even have to queue or weep to get dollars ..

100%... I also hope PMB can lead by example & have his grandkids school here since his own kids are grown!!!

Be that as it may I'm sure the parents weeping at the banks are not Dangote, Elumelu,Mark, Saraki, Lawan, Oduah, Faleke, Ambode, Fashola, Ekweremadu et al...

The Rich & Political elite are not the ones to cry!! Don't compare apples , oranges..

While on the Topic of luxury, a $1.4k handbag is luxury to me while a 14k one is a basi necessity to Linda Ikeji!! Luxury is relative to income & isn't a concise science...

I know this is not likely to satisfy you though cos you have a set & predetermined mode which will ensure that you nitpick & fault my point, just felt like indulging you!! BYE...