South African actors want to stop Oscar-winner Jennifer Hudson from playing Winnie Madikizela-Mandela in a new film on the ex-wife of the nation's first black president, reports said Monday.
The Creative Workers Union of South Africa said using foreign actors to tell the country's stories undermined efforts to develop the national film industry.
"It can't happen that we want to develop our own Hollywood and yet bring in imports," the union's president Mabutho Sithole said in The Citizen newspaper.
"This decision must be reversed, it must be stopped now," union secretary general Oupa Lebogo said in The Times. "If the matter doesn't come up for discussion, we will push for a moratorium to be placed on the film."
Hudson, who scooped a best supporting actress Oscar in 2007 for the musical "Dreamgirls", landed the role of Madikizela-Mandela last month.
The film will be directed by South African film-maker Darrell J. Roodt, whose films include "Cry, The Beloved Country" and "Sarafina."
The criticism comes just days before the opening of the Clint Eastwood film "Invictus", a drama about Nelson Mandela and South Africa's 1995 rugby World Cup victory which united the nation. Morgan Freeman in 'Invictus'
Morgan Freeman plays the president and Matt Damon is the rugby team captain.
Madikizela-Mandela campaigned tirelessly for her husband's release during his 27-year imprisonment in the apartheid era.
However, her image was tarnished by a series of scandals including her links to the kidnap and murder of a young activist and a 2003 conviction for fraud.
She separated from Nelson Mandela in 1992, two years after his release.
They need to get over that shit. They need the big names to pull the interntional especially American audience in. Look at invictus. There were a lot of SA in that movie but who would watch it if you didn't have big names like Morgan Freeman or MAtt damon.
Come on this is business, no time for sentimentality.
if you want to build your industry created your own Holly wood and market to your people. if they are able to sustain the industry then you won't need to hire any outside people to come sell your product.
This is the only World Cup I will probably make in my life time during my prime years. I can't be gong to World cup when I am 40 or 50 years old. Will not be the same. Now is my time and I am not missing it so Crackles enjoy your cold beer and SUya in your living room. I will be there live and in COLOR.
I just applied for my tickets to the Ngeian games on June 12th and the 17th . I am trying to get the Japan/Cameroon game in Bloomfontein and possibley the Ghana game in Pretoria. Got's to support my African peoples.
The opening game is still available but i am not too sure yet. Very expensive.
I might not be able to make it to the Cape as it seems all the flights have been over booked and driving there from Johanesburg is like 12 hrs. Can't do that
sauer: There is a natural conclusion to be drawn from all this: blacks have an inbuilt superiority over whites when it comes to sprinting. Many scientists and writers have made this claim, to the fury of equal rights campaigners who fear that any acknowledgement of natural differences between the races might usher in a new wave of racism. Similar claims are familiar: blacks are inferior swimmers, yellows are better ping-pong players, and so on. But do such differences exist and what would it mean if they did? The answer cuts to the heart of our understanding of race and human diversity at the beginning of the 21st century.
The word "Superior" being used in the paragraph above connotates racism. It can be substituted with the word "blacks have an inbuilt advantage,
The advantage is as a result of genetics, nutrition, adaptation, biological and physiological instances.
Such differences do exist and are not necessarily disadvantages on the parts of those who do not possess those traits
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sauer: The prototypical argument for black athletic superiority can be found in Taboo: Why Blacks Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We Are Afraid to Talk about it by Jon Entine. Entine’s central assertion is that it is not blacks as a whole that are good at sprinting but rather a subset who can trace their origins to western African coastal states. Indeed, he makes the point that “no white, Asian or East African runner has broken 10 seconds in the 100m” (my italics).
This is fact and has a very simple explanation to it.
[quote author=sauer link=topic=363061.msg5065467#msg5065467 date=1260196474]Let us assume that these results have genetic causes. Is Entine entitled to conclude that blacks are naturally better athletes? Well, no. All he is entitled to say is that East Africans are naturally better at distance running and West Africans are naturally better at sprinting and that whites are probably somewhere in the middle at both disciplines. So why make the further claim that “blacks” are naturally better at sprinting and distance running? The fallacy may not seem obvious because we are so used to thinking that “black” and “white” refer to biologically significant groupings. So let us imagine a similar argument using the Central African Bambuti, a tribe commonly referred to as Pygmies. With an average height of 4ft we can safely assert that the Bambuti have a natural superiority when it comes to walking under low ceilings. Would it be legitimate to extrapolate from this that blacks in general have a natural advantage at walking under low ceilings? The problem for the “racial scientist” is his yearning to generalise.
Some scientists have resorted to smuggling in racial categories under an epidemiological guise. For example, blacks are said to be more predisposed to sickle cell anaemia. The truth, again, is more complex. Sickle cell anemia disproportionately affects the descendants of populations who lived in malarial zones, which means a higher risk for those whose ancestors came from certain parts of sub-Saharan Africa. But it also implies a higher risk for those who hail from areas in the southern Mediterranean. Genetic diseases are not racial per se. Many other so-called black diseases are in fact diseases of poverty with well-established environmental causes.
The reason why racial scientists are able to get away with crude and statistically dubious generalisations is because they chime with our natural inclination to regard “black” as a genetic type distinct from “white” or “yellow”. Indeed, this inclination is so powerful that it requires an effort of will to free oneself from its clutches.
But it is worth the effort. The fact is that there are probably no human races at all as the term is used in the biological sciences. The so-called races blend together so smoothly that it is unlikely that we will ever find a genetically rigorous demarcation that will allow us to categorise Homo sapiens in the way that we can some other species.
And even if better familiarity with the human genome does enable us to make such a classification, we can be sure that it will never correspond with “black”, “white” and “yellow” as we colloquially use the terms. How could it when the terms themselves are without clear boundaries — as anyone who has traced the continuum in skin pigmentation from Iceland to sub-Saharan Africa will tell you?
None of this will be of any surprise to those familiar with genetics, which tells us that most genetic variation (around 85 per cent) is to be found within groups rather than between them. In fact, almost all human genetic variation can be found within single African tribes, because of Africa’s place as the cradle of humanity. To the extent that there is genetic variation between groups, the majority is geographical rather than “racial”. Indeed, surface appearance (such as skin colour) can often be highly misleading when it comes to identifying the genetic distance between populations.
The conclusion is unavoidable: those who invoke race as an explanation of real and perceived differences between humans have an agenda that is other than scientific.
Bros please tell us where you got this excerp from it is obvious you are not the one that wrote it
Mpele: hehehehehehe! by 2020 the Nigerian economy will be the biggest in Africa, wow! I',m sure by 2020, the generation of that time will be sayin by 2040, we will be the biggest economy in Africa! As for Angola, U people are pushing it! There is only one country in Africa that can at least try to compete with SA, that is Egypt.
I really don't think SA is REALLY PART OF AFRICA. If not for the indigenous populations which is the only thing it has in common with the rest of Africa. It would simply be identified as a present day DUTCH COLONY,
Horus: This is not the point, don't allow yourself to be mentally an instrument of the white imperialist who oppress all blacks. It is time to wake up mentally and if you are a black man who is really aware you should have a strong and almost uncontrollable feeling of love for other Black people, regardless of who or what they are, you should know for the first time the true meaning of unconditional love for your own kind. What I mean is that instead of coming here on this forum with arrogance and say that you are more high than all other black on the planet or saying thing like: we are better than you or again we are Superior to you, you should think about what what we can do if the mental, emotional, financial, and physical power of all the black people on the planet are united together. If you don't see that you have to remove poverty in all Africa, then you have a problem. Instead some are coming here saying thing like: Ho!! you are more poor than us so we are Superior to you!!, instead of fighting the roots of poverty for all ours people. This is ridiculous and this denote the presence of EGO in you instead of having a mind of cooperation and unity with the black race. If you are really for the well being of black people you will not play the division game, the opposition game, the sarcasm game but you will put all your mental power for the well being of all blacks regardless of who or what they are. If you cannot understand this point then this is very sad for you.
@Horus I'll agree only with the bolded part but then again all humans are programmed this way . If they weren't then there would be no conflicts or nations for that matter.
jba203: My problem with Nigerians is that they like to defend the indefendable, always reactive, over and above being subjective. Facts are facts, the least you can do is to believe it or not. However, not believing facts as they are leaves to much to be desired on your menatal comphrehension. Moreover, i like Nigerians ambitions though, but you are just way too behind to top the list on development.
Sharrap there my friend!!
jba203: Whenever one tries to advocate RSA's pace of development nothing comes out your drops but racial demographics of this country. Like " The Whites made that country" That is crap right there. The Whites are part of us, they will die here.
Because the racial demographichs and the history is the reality of the place. Why cn't you accpet that reality as well.
jba203: Is like the so called African Americans, they are proud of being Americans because they are attached to that country than any African country. For your information, white people came down South in 1652. That is like one decade behind after the slave trade. Would you say America was made what it is because of African Americans?
Now that is not a smart analysis on your part. Not smart at all. Rethink that statement again,
[quote author=jba203 link=topic=359267.msg5039508#msg5039508 date=1259824558]South African companies, both black and white owned are investing in and out of Africa than any African country has ever done.
SABMILLER: The world no1 MTN: All over Africa and Middle east Standard Bank: branches in 16 countries: this bank boujght more shares on Bank boston of Argentina Massmart: Europe and Africa Shoprite: Africa, Middle east Anglo American: Operating in Austarlia, and Canada, as well as the DRC Broll: This is the constuction company that has built your own Mall in Lagos we even complemeted it with SA flavour like " Game, Sterkinekor" etc Murray&Roberts: Constuction company, operating in Dubai, and all over Europe Multichoice: You are being controlled down South, this is our own propaganda machine
Can you name one of the above companies that is majority "black' owned.
jba203: If i continue with the list, you will get bored. What do you have? It is a pity that you argue without facts. We have everything that you do not have. We are building the first fvast underground train in Africa. We are hosting the FIFA World Cup for the first time in Africa. We have hosted both cricket and Rugby world cups. The Formula 1 Racing. This is a country that has world class Malls that exceeds 500. This a country that has providing internet sercices to you. This is the country that has placed the first Afric an man on space. This a country that once possesed nuclear weapons. This is the only African country that is ttrusted by the developed. With all the challenges we are facing, we remain here to fix them. This is the country whose people get shocked when they see how Nigerians act smart while they are learning to eat Hamburger in SA. This is a country where Hollywood celebrikties like Will Smith, Michel Joordan, Eddie Murphy, Nocolas Cage always visit for vacations. Damn, we good.
You know what is strange to me is that you "guys" had all this stuff for such a long time and all the above you mention was of no knowledge or at least of no consequence to other Africans or peoples pre Apatheid. If you guys built and owned all this stuff "legitimately" how come your govt wasn't boasting about it in the 1980's and early 90's. How come you were religated and to some extent till today to Bantustans/Townships
Hmmmm I wonder? Is it becasue you really didn't own any of this. Wake up and smell the coffee and stop accusing people of not accedpting fact when it is presented to them.
"A filed Negro once told his counter part house negro to come lets run away together, let's leave this master's plantation and go build our own plantation. The house negro replied to the field negro. What the hell for? What's better than what we got here.
You see that's the mentality of the house negro.
When the master fell sick tee house negro would say " what's wrong boss!. We sick boss!. "WE" sick boss._ Malcom X, [/quote]
Horus: @Mpele if you are concerned about the well being of blacks you will try to look at the unemployment rate of blacks first, and then ask yourself the question of why the two groups have a different unemployment rate?. I dont give a Damn about whites. Now you are telling me to go and educate myself or all I did was to give you the difference between the unemployment rate of both races (black and white). What is your purpose here?. Are you not concerned about the well being of blacks?. So why are you not interrested to know the rate of unemployment rate of [b]
@ Horus
I have told many people on this forum that the boy known as Mpele is confused btw Black and White. You people will not listen to me.
@ Mpele
You are free to come over to this forum anytime. Why? cause we are very accomodating here with people of your "type" unlike some of your "white" brothers on other forums
MontyNG: Don't know what sort of "friends" you guys roll with but last time I was home for a 5week stay, don't think I spent up to 100K and I still got a few stuffs for myself!
Bros as a naija wey deygo in and out of country i advise you deeply to stay away from your hungry friends and role with people of your status wey no go dey scrounge on you o!
Naija get levels othewise you go show demthe DOLLARS!!!
wirinet: I am sure the picture was taken off a creationist's site to poke fun at evolutionists. But i will tell you what is wrong and what is right with the picture.
What is wrong with the Picture;
1.The photo is a terrible photoshop job, Its is too blurry and the attachments of the heads are horrible, especially the one before the final man. Also some of the body proportions are off
The representation of the evolution of man is wrong. The first in line is clearly a modern day gorilla, and evolutionary theory never said that the modern day gorilla metamorphosed to man (apologies to david). It says we share the same ancestor with modern gorilla more than 6 million years ago. What is Right; The change of skin colour is correct. This is an attempt to represent the evolution of a white man. Since all men accept that their evolutionary migration started from Africa, it is logical for the skin to change from black (where there is ample sunlight) to white (where the sunlight is less). If the Mongoloids (chinese) also draw their evolutionary path, they would begin with the black ancestor.
The bolded part is a very popular misconception by someone who does not understand what evolutionionist are talking about.
Mpele: no, why would we bash Nigerians! We have people we can bash, clearly not Nigerians! Its just the sound of the truth to the ear is a bit too much!!!!
Are you talking about other Africans who are more passive than we are.
In the words of the great Madiba. "Never, Never and never again shall it be that this beautiful land will again expericence the oppression of one by another"
Many of you are loosing that message and drifting away from the true warriors of your country. Practice what you preach if you want other peoples respect.
why when we have to discuss issues, U get personal, did I choose to be mix breed! Could U pls explain sa to what is the meaning of confused. Okay to make you happy I'd say Ghana economy is bigger than that of South Africa. They are the economic powerhouse of Africa! there U go happy!!!!!
How ironic your statment is. Answer me this
Did I choose to be Nigerian?. As you are making the best of your situation we are making the best of ours. Capish!!
TV/Movies › Re: Rsa Rejects Jennifer Hudson For Movie Role by morpheus24: 10:08pm On Dec 08, 2009
