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[quote author=be-real link=topic=323777.msg4982682#msg4982682 date=1259005764]it is a well known fact that if nigeria has been allowed to be led by the 'igbo' all these 49 yrs ,things, definitely would have been better.take it or leave it ![/quote]What has that got to do with Igbos and Jews.

Are you insinuationg some sort of God's blessing from Igbo Jews.


If igbos ruled Nigeria it would have been mafia style God fatherism everyday, Look at the east and take a cue.

Abagworo:
i would like to know if you believe that those germans that now inhabit israel were actually the hebrews?

if you noticed,i wrote about my people and not all igbos because of how complex igbo as a group is.some igbos especially the eris believe that they are children of eri in the bible.they were the ones that influenced other igbos with jewish culture.my own kindred trace our roots to oru which is either extinct or swallowed up by igbo and ijaw.we are not jews.

I have no business arguing about the authenticity of The hebrews in Israel today, however if you are asking my opinion or studies of them I will point to the fact that they are a make up of a large chunk of[b] Europeans of middle eastern descent(ashkenazi)[/b], Jewish and Hebrew descendants that have inhabited the Palestinian and levant areas for milennia and never left there(mizrahi), other jewish groups that migrated into North Africa  that retained strong hebrew and Jewish ties and lastly converts to the Jewish faith.

Again I don't know how this children of eri can believe or practice traditions (apart from circumcision) that did not exist for them in written form and was introduced only when christianity penetrated eastern Nigeria. Most of the igbos traditions are oral and open to imagination and conjectures much like their gods and history.

I bring up genetic middle eastern markers and East AFrican markers to attest  to studies of some sort of gene inheritance from the regions Hebrews are thought to be from and Jewish populations around the world. There is still no known evidence of this.for Igbos.

As far as cultural infusion. There is a possibility because culture in of itself is dynamic. If you say igbos adopted Jewish or hebrew traditions from one traveling ancestorwho immigrated back to Igbo land I could conceed that point however if you say it is inherited biologically as in common ancestoral descent. I see no evidence of that. The descent would be of a cultural and not a biological one.

Abagworo:
[b]many people found in present day nigeria were either related to jews or egyptian[/b]s.for the igbos where i come from they are not jews but refer to themselves as umuoru meaning children of ''oru'' .again we say ''oru'' and ''igbo'' are brothers.different people make up the village some are aros,idus,orus,umunri,igara,abam and more.of all these groups,it is the nris or eris who believe they came from israel and were descendants of garth.from my own view they might actually be from israel.the eris might not be up to 5% of igbos but they are widespread and perform the traditional rituals.

you need to site me some evidence of this.

I need DNA sampling to connect any dots. if it is true. It will be in the blood. DNA never lies.

Contemporary West Africans are as genetically distinct from Hebrews or Egyptians as much as  ancient Egyptians are genetically distinct from  ancient Bedouin tribes.

Good Girl:
Phew! At last someone has said it. I was beginning to get real tired of people claiming that Somalis, Ethiopians and Eritreans are a mixed race people. It is a fact that Cushites are indigenous Africans, just like Bantus and Nilotes.

I second that Phew! as well. I have been trying to beat that point into the heads of many people in this forum but some people just choose to be ignorant

Kudos to you Pure black,

NordicRace:
LOL, Black women are so ugly. Negros are the ugliest race on the planet. No one thinks negro women are attractive.

Indian Premier League: British cheerleaders 'banned for being black'
Two black British cheerleaders have claimed they were racially abused and prevented from performing at an event to promote India’s Twenty20 cricket league

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2007056/Indian-Premier-League-British-cheerleaders-banned-for-being-black.html

Hey! Cave dweller don't let me trash your scandanavian pointy nose retard barbaric ass on this thread. Go join your brothers on Storm front and remember


Keep taking your Haldol shots too!!

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=323777.msg4960172#msg4960172 date=1258662833]you took the words right out of my mouth,the only thing i have to add is that the word JEW is an european construct

the ancient dark skinned nomads that wrote the old testament referred to themselves as hebrews,not jews

the term jew comes from the word JEWELRY,these were people in europe who were good in being GOLDSMITHS and so on

thats why a lot of jews are named,goldstein and so on[/b]EUROPEAN JEWS u see in israel today are NOT,i repeat NOT the ones that wrote the old testament back then,these people were dark and by the way back then europeans were either cave dwelling or non existent

one last thing,the Question should be ARE igbos descended from the ANCIENT HEBREWS?

and there are enuff similarities in both cultures to say that some hebrews probably wandered and settled in present day eastern nigeria and mixed up with the people there to become igbos[/quote]How can I agree with you when first of all your origins of the word [b]Jew are false. Please look up ethomology of that word for accurate analysis on its origin.

The second point of Europeans being non existent is false. Jewish history is 5-10, 000 years old. the repopulation of Europe is 40,000 years old.

On the third point. There is no genetic evidence of gene flow from what we know as the levant area to any parts of West Africa including the Igobs. The only traces are found in tribes who range across north Africa as several Jewish sephardic populations wondered these parts. Middle easterners are the closed genetic reference to populations that existed in those areas going way back.

Sinmilarities in culture to not denote any relationship necessarily with one another.

There are similare vocal performances and dances that are practiced by people who inhabit the sahel region in Africa to some indian religious dances and song format. Does not mean they are any how related culturally, religiously or genetically for that matter.

This matter on Igbo Jews holds no merit what so ever.

And to add to that anyone that believes in the story of Shem , ham or Japhet repopulating the earth should not cross this data with science. They are incompatible.

Ibime:
What these nuccas talking about in here?

The word nucca denotes familiarity, but should only be used in the right setting with nuccas you grew up with, or nuccas who know you very well, especially HipHop-loving nuccas.

No need to be uptight.

Nicca a neologism for the word[b] Nigga [/b] derived from the word Nigger a mispronounciation of the word Negro from a spanish word derived from latin as in the origins of the word "Nige[/b]r' which is a connotation for [b]black

so in reality if we refer to our selfs as Nigerians we are simply saying we are Nicca-erians or Black-enerians.

Dem just words people don't get all twisted up about it. They will loose their meaning in time.

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make your choice

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orobo abi olopa?[/quote]Paddy that bald headed girl look South African. O!

I really don't think Egypt or Mozambic for that matter will allow Nigeria sail through.

Nigeria owes mozambic for getting them through to the World cup.

I already bought tickets in like 5 venues already for several games so hopefully Naija will fall into one of them because I know once the draws are done. within 24hrs the tickets are gonna be ridiculous to get. I will wait for the drawings to see if I can pic up at least one naija game.

It really doesn't matter to me I Know I will at least get to see one African team Play even if I don't get to see any naija games I hope to see the european teams

I don't really like South american teams so are not interested in any of their games unless its Brazil,

This alqeda stuff is slowly drifting into African with these extremist looking for any avenue to recruit people who can blend into the black community and arouse less suspicion from the government

I won't be surprised if Our Muslim brothers in the North begin to adhere to this call.

Black people are always a prixy for this stupid Arab muslims in the name of Ummah!!

Epi:
man, u sound so intellignet that I believe everything u say. r u a teacher?me too, on Saturday

No I am one who believes education and information should be free to everyone but some people like to keep it for themselves so they have the advantage over others.

I am already spending all my reserves in the bank right now cause I got limited time

At least I can see one more world cup and Olympics!!!

mace1:
abuja looks really nice.i WANT TO REPLY TO A TOPIC i saw but i can't because it's close.i will say this quick .the topic was-Topic: Somali Girls Are The Most Beautiful In Africa! .off course i disagee with this statement but it was something else i want to reply to to make clear. so please do not delete.


most ethiopian and somalian are not mixed and some do not have straight noses either.straight noses is native to africa awell before the white race has ever existed.this has been proven

southern sudanese have flat noses by the way.
northern sudanese come in diferent features today.some have straight noses and some have flat noses,but if you go back into the past they had flat noses and on average were darker.
kushite nubians for an example were described by the greeks has having woolly hair,and flat noses and were unmixed blacks.
arabized nubians in sudan today,most of them have these same features. it is
the arabs in the sudan who have 50% arab blood that tend to have straight noses,but there are blacks in africa that have straight noses and have no admixture at all since that feature existed in africa before whites ever existed.
some nubians in northern nubia and central nubian only mixed with arabs in the later middle ages.nubians in alwa or southern nubia did not and look like kushites of the past.so in other words some nubians today are mixed some have some admixture and some are not mixed,but most are not.most arabized nubians in the sudan are not mixed,and the few that are have little admixture.
nubian speakers come from southern nubia and then from the noba hills.they then came from southern and central sahara.

nubian is a nilo-saharan (sudanic)and it's not cushitic.they are a nilo-saharan people,not cushitic.the early southern and central nubians tend to have on average broad heads.this is where the kush kingdom was formed.lower nubians were not kushites (this was thec-group)and this group disappeared after the kushites came in lower nubia over time.the lower nubians before the kushites came in tend to have long heads on average but they were all unmixed black africans anyway.

lower nubians however became on average mixed only in the very late ancient times.they mixed with greek and romans and on groups that came in lower nubia later on.these lower nubians were the noba,and were called the red noba because these were the ones that became mixed over time. the black noba were not mixed in lower nubia or the rest of nubia.

the kushites in kush never mixed with other races.they were a unmixed all black nubian tribal group.

thanks for reading and if this topic i posted could be move to the thread i want to respond to that would be fine,since i sign on to reply to it in the first place.

www.egyptsearch.com deals with this type of topic all the time.
please no one need to reply.i just wanted to clear up some things because i have studies the sudan and know alot of things about it.

I concur with all of this and are a frequent visitor to The Egyptsearch site.

Thanks for clearing this up . i still don't know why they closed that thread. People need to be educated.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=354521.msg4959434#msg4959434 date=1258654826]I sense another name change in the offing.

Jewish American is already taken (unless the current ones agree to drop or share that label)

since all of them are tracing their roots to a particular part of Nigeria maybe they'll substitute the name of somewhere in Nigeria for the "African" prefix.[/quote]Its mental madness. Astonishes the hell out of me I swear.

its amazing to me how religion can really warp the mind of humans beings into believing anyting irregardless of obvious physical evidence and yet some people continue to use these bibilical stories further their agendas.


Please normal sane people beware. The video tries to convince African Americans that they are not the same people as Africans using the bible


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1ZOTm6JBRk&feature=related

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=342715.msg4954427#msg4954427 date=1258593069]the test on the father wasnt 100% conclusive and in any case, test results can be fudged.

If they didnt use a sperm donor then someone was out to get them or teach them a lesson.[/quote]Sperm Donor in the 1950's?

I don't know if they have done any recent DNA tests on Ms laing and compared results to her parents or living sibling.

This would probably resolve the issue once and for all. The mother is definitely hers. If the father is not then how come they had a second child who if you look carefully is only a couple of shades lighter than his sister and is not necessarily a 'White' baby but classified as such under the old Apatheid rule.

toshmann:
dude make una chill, that woman na black woman. her ''parents'' white? i hear you . . . .

go to her mama's grave and ask her some hard questions

What you don't realize is that they have done tests on the girl to prove she is the offspring of both parents which only leaves the possiblitiy that both parents carry recent African black genes.

Here is a trailer of the movie of this lady about to be released shortly its called skins. They are yet to release it here in the states.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnIGr1_---g&feature=related

I think someone needs to give you shot of Haldol

cause you are obviously going KoLOMENtal!!

Like you sang Fela:

Animal won dash us Human rights!!

Animal no fit dash me Human rights!

ANimal in Human skin, ANimal e pu suite o! Animal e wear Agbada!

HEHEHE!, live forever in our memories and Honour!!

I actually prefer them to the Algerians. They always support Naija

O boy Egypt is desperate.

Time still dey though if they don't conceed another goal

SEE CROWD!!

Obama can bow all he wants as long as the rest of the world know whose nuclear arsenal is the deadliest. They know who is BOSS

Might equals Right!!!

Algeria don score goal o!
at the 30th minute


Who do you think is going to take the last place spot for Africa!!!