₦airaland Forum

MduZA:
forget about the racist whites,SA is their country too...what are you doing about your own black people who are discriminating against other black people,like your own people who are demanding that igbos should be chased out of lagos?

Stop deflecting and distracting, If you want to discuss Nigerian ethnic matters, there are a bunch of threads on those you can chime in on.

Why can't your people look for civilized solutions to your jealousy issues?

Does anyone force your locals to buy from foreign shops in the township, Why do you patronize them. Why can't you buy your own stuff and practice group economics?

Why do you go shopping at malls in Sandton and Capetown who's owners are foreign companies that make products at cheap and you buy them at exhorbitant prices. Why are you not tearing down those stores?

What are you doing about the foreign white nationals who are circumventing your immigration laws and living in South Africa, is it because you cannot reach them or afraid they will organize and come get you?



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osystein:
As you say, the hatred is caused by jealousy, If the foreigners were simply beggars and set on corners all day waiting for handouts, we probably won't see all this xenophobia (maybe not). I don't think they'll attack the Methodist Church where those Zimbaweans take refuge, why always the shops?

Just more evidence that it has nothing to do with draining resources that are due the citizens but trying to put people who are more competitive than you out of business through violent means, its the South African way.

paniki:
We are xenophobes. So what?

We are 419ers, so What?

MduZA:
oh I see....you are one of the angry people that we always see on this forum...you can't even comprehend a simple genuine comment because you have already made your own ignorant conclusion....

Stop the distractions and stop focusing on my anger. Focus on the anger and jealousy by your comrades that is trying to be deflected here.

No apologist, we need people who will face up to facts.

Ayus34:
oponu sowe nu! !!

Kachi buruku'banka

Ayus34:
ur opinion is useless in another man's land! !!

yes we know because your relatives ran to another man's land to snatch citizenship and are sending you pounds to spend in lagos so you can comfortable talk gibberish from your "face me I face" you flat in oshodi

MduZA:
generally there is no xenophobic attacks in south Africa,,infact there are few incidents ofwhich people like you are making unnecessary exaggeration...majority of south Africans are against such acts that's why millions and millions of these immigrants are not affected...

Like your ANC masters, you are still in denial of the growing threat of attacks on "black" foreign nationals.


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BluIvy:
3. There are no jobs in SA, some get into crime out of desperation.
It is stretching our security forces capabilities to the extreme.
We do not use army so the police force is it.
Adding to security and crime issues. We budgeted security for own criminals now we have extra acquired criminals
Our justice systemis not capping, so is our justice prison system.
Police budgeted focus used to be :
1 Police /56 People ( this was still a trech
But Now at 1 Police to 389 People ( too much of strech
Opens SA ECONOMY to insecurity, ISSIS recruiting from SA ( Rumoured). Becouse of security force neglect of local issues.
Etc!

These are your true issues below. Take note the world is beginning to see your true "rainbow" colors.



PRE 1994....WE are suffering because of APATHEID, . APATHEID MUST GO!

POST 1994....We are suffering because the WHites have all the economic power and wealth. WHITE PRIVILEGE MUST GO!

POST BEE....We are suffering because the tenderpreneurs and government are corrupt. ZUMA MUST GO!

POST 2008 Foreigners migrating into the country.... We suffering because we cant figure out how these foreigners are making money and we aren't. THE FOREIGNERS MUST GO!

POST 2014...We are still suffering..BEcause.......

osystein:
The government should declare a state of emergency whenever these xenophobic incidence flare up and bring on the army. Seems SA leaders are in denial about the xenophobia in that country.
They should also setup refugee camps like Kenya for all the millions of Zim and Somali refugees.
That Zulu king should be sent to the ICC to face crimes against humanity.

They are in denial and don't want to loose those millions of "white" foreigners who are bringing money into their economy so they camouflage Xenophobia as just criminal activity.

BluIvy:
Burden to economy =
1. They run petty businesses, not paying tax but sending money to their homes

Jealousy!

BluIvy:
2. Health care is free - who pause for it? SA tax payers
3. Free education - who pays SA tax payers

RIght 49 million vs 6 million is a substantial enough ratio to justify xenophobia, Why not just bar them from school and hospitals?

BluIvy:
4. Infrustratural, Road, Water, Sanitation Rates - ?

Not worth a response.

BluIvy:
5. Environmental pollution/ lettering by these on street business- who pays for cleaning, garbage collection?
90% Of SA economic and political immigrantsare into micro/small business, other criminal activities and menial jobs = Not Applicable to Pay Tax
In their business they flood SA with exports, Chinese, Fake products, = No additions to SA economy but threat to local producers and manufacturers. = Loss of jobs, high inflation. Who wants that?
Most don't have banks so money kept privately = No REINVESTMENT

Again a silly justification for burning people and killing them but then again you guys are an angry lot so that's how you have been trained to react like animals. Your illiterate backward kings make statements and people die.

Shame!


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On Friday night the 22-year-old became the latest victim of a spate of xenophobic attacks that has engulfed Durban.

Marcus died at Prince Mshiyeni Memorial Hospital in Umlazi at 8pm on Friday night with third-degree burns.

His brother Alex, 24, was also burnt when a mob locked them inside the container in which they had set up their shop and torched it.

His brother sustained burn wounds on his head, left arm and both legs.

Speaking from his hospital bed yesterday - unaware that his brother had died - Alex recounted how they were trapped inside the burning container for an hour.

It was only after Point Sindane, 67, the owner of the property on which their shop stood, in Umlazi's W section, managed to open the door with a crowbar that they were able to get out. Sindane used a hosepipe to extinguish the flames eating away at their bodies.

"My body is still burning," said Alex yesterday. "I was crying inside the container while I was burning. We were locked inside for almost an hour."

He said his brother had joined him only four months ago to help him run the spaza shop. Their goods, worth more than R20000, were burned to ashes inside the container.

"It's painful what they are doing to us. We are all Africans. My brother and I were just working - why kill us?" said Alex.

Despite the attack he is determined to remain in South Africa.

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The brothers' story is similar to that of thousands of other foreigners - from Malawi, Ethiopia, Somalia, Mozambique, the DRC and Tanzania- who have been driven from their communities since the attacks started in Isipingo, south of Durban, three weeks ago.

The displaced families are living in transit camps at Isipingo Beach and in Chatsworth.

The attacks on foreigners have been linked to King Goodwill Zwelithini, who, in Pongola on March 20, urged the government to expel them.


This week hundreds of foreigners fled their homes in Chatsworth and Sydenham after coming under attack. Their properties were ransacked and looted on Tuesday night, and dozens of people were injured in Umlazi on Thursday night.

On Friday, there were attacks in the Unit 11 informal settlement in Chatsworth and in Umlazi resulting in dozens of families taking refuge at the local police station.

They were taken to a local football ground, where a temporary camp and marquees were erected to accommodate them.

SA Human Rights Commission spokesman Isaac Mangena said the alleged utterances of the king, and the comments last week by President Jacob Zuma's son, Edward, were being investigated.

The president's son reportedly told News24.com: "We need to be aware that, as a country, we are sitting on a ticking time bomb of them [foreigners] taking over the country. We can't rule out the possibility of a coup in the future."

BluIvy:
3. There are no jobs in SA, some get into crime out of desperation.
It is stretching our security forces capabilities to the extreme.
We do not use army so the police force is it.
Adding to security and crime issues. We budgeted security for own criminals now we have extra acquired criminals
Our justice systemis not capping, so is our justice prison system.
Police budgeted focus used to be :
1 Police /56 People ( this was still a trech
But Now at 1 Police to 389 People ( too much of strech
Opens SA ECONOMY to insecurity, ISSIS recruiting from SA ( Rumoured). Becouse of security force neglect of local issues.
Etc!

And the resolution to this is killing and looting peoples property.

How civilized?

Ayus34:
if u don't add any value ti the economy of urs host,then come back home instead of constituting nuisance and being a burden to the host country. ....

Can you stay on point please, that is if you have a point.

How are the black foreigners a burden to the SA economy? just goes to show how ignorant you are. The reason they are attacked is because they are thriving far better than the indigenes who are jealous of the progress in the midst of the locals failures

Even the asylum seekers who are illiterate or semi skilled find meaningful small businesses to engage in and simply go about their business in SA trying to feed their families.

Ayus34:
a lot blacks leave their countries looking for quickest means to make money and later engage in illicit dealings and giving their respective countries a bad name....if u complain south African are killing u and u can't go to another country,are u also saying ur country of birth is killing you

??

Ayus34:
oga not by force to travel out majority of my family resides abroad and and they 've not complain of molestation because they engaged themselves in meaningful things in other not to endangered themselves. ....if u want to die in another man's country, then goodluck to you......don't come here and cry like a baby!

Your relatives that are abroad should come back and build Nigeria irrespective of what they are doing abroad. What are they doing there. WHy don't they come back and build an el dorado in Lagos. So traveling is good for your people and not others.

What is your point... Stay home....travel abroad.. stay home.. travel abroad...

Make up your mind.

axum:
Regardless of what you say to yourself, it is self evident that even Negroid Kenyans who are Muslims support the cause of Somalis by attacking Kenya and supporting the Somali cause under the guise of Islam.
The Somalis in Kenya are like a residual force who have been inbeded inside Kenya for the long haul while still maintaining their culture and language, they spread Islam and every year more Kenyans convert to Islam while Somalis increase their population through more birth rates while marrying within the Somali community.
Kenyan institutions like the Police are corrupt and will only help in destabilizing Kenya, as a Kenyan cop will be more happy to take a bribe than enforce the laws.
If Kenyans do anything severe to Somalis, you know Arabs will support Somalia(it may be the governments, or foot soldiers helping Alshabaab).
Kenya is a multi ethnic country, and has no identity. The only identity is Islam or Christianity. And Muslims support Somalis.

You've jumped ship form the cultural section and brought your pseudo race science here again.

Please go back from whence the rock you crawled up under.

BluIvy:
That is true!

DEFINITION OF FOREIGNER according to South AFrica

"Any individual of African or Asian origin, who does not originate from Europe and who came into the country to steal our jobs"

BluIvy:


Rubbish!
Well looks like you are having bigger issues in Lags.

Here are you issues you need to deal with Motswana from Botswana



PRE 1994....WE are suffering because of APATHEID, . APATHEID MUST GO!

POST 1994....We are suffering because the WHites have all the economic power and wealth. WHITE PRIVILEGE MUST GO!

POST BEE....We are suffering because the tenderpreneurs and government are corrupt. ZUMA MUST GO!

POST 2008 Foreigners migrating into the country.... We suffering because we cant figure out how these foreigners are making money and we aren't. THE FOREIGNERS MUST GO!

POST 2014...We are still suffering..BEcause.......

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Angry lot of individuals who don't know how to channel their negative energy properly, because of their dehumanization by apartheid they are projecting their anger or images of themselves aka "BLACK" Foreigners!!

Please my Nigerian people in SA, stay away from SA people and power up with other Africans and protect yourselfs. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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THe mUT#@fuka picked up the taser and dropped it right next to the man he shot because he knew he messed up.

SOB!

BluIvy:
Violent groups my asss. Do you know how many white armed groups are there in America? Why would blacks not have even one equally armed group? Its about time the life of black Americans count as equally as those of their white counter parts. Black immigrants in places like America who have never experienced white racism will always be sympathetic to the perpetrators because at the end of the day they always go home to their countries. Black Americans are citizen of American its about time they cement their position they have suffered enough and their struggle is what has afforded black immigrants their so revered comfort today in America. But guess what the same immigrant would never support any course by the same Black Americans but will always be judgeful of them.

You are truly bored BLuIVY,

I see you projecting.

The defamed statue issue in SA not enough for you to discuss on.

OOps I forgot you aint got no forums to do that!

BluIvy:
You sound like a small Nigeria boy. By the way how old are you? Bragging about a forum owned by an individual? Well you guys would brag about Dangote as if his your father. You people are shameful. I take that back when you have nothing to be proud of even a tarred road becomes development. Kikikikiikikii
Yes we want them out. Its our country our rules.
By the way you people are the ones who have problem with our fellow white citizens we don't. And if you follow what you've written there we usually get away sooner than later. You'll see you well be neatly packed up and sent home. Moffie¡

I am glad you at least agree with all of the bullet points. I mentioned. We finally agree on something.


Oh year forgot, another bullet points

YOU ARE A MOTSWANA FROM BOTSWANA. Your culture is patriachrial therefore your claim to SA is no different from the child of a Ghanaian makwerekwere father who had a child with a Zulu woman. YOU ARE A FOREIGNER in South AFrica and all the projecting in the world will not change that fact.

14:
what do you expect from the nation that is proud of massive population. China aint proud, hence their one kid policy.

Yet China is the most powerful economic nation cause they leveraged on their size to grow their economy.

A country that was labeled a cesspool by the west just 30 years ago now the West is getting nervous.


The same Western civilization that figured out that they were going to eventually run into trouble because of exponential population growth in South Africa where they would eventually find it difficult to control the slave classs population.

Of course you have bought into the western concept of eugenics via birth control methods in the disguise of the propaganda that the world is getting over populated when fact the amount of food that is produced in the world today can pretty much make the entire world population Obese.


FREE YOUR MIND!

MduZA:
there is neither white nor black forums in SA...they only exist in your imagination

Yes, we know you are the rainbow nation of colors


****SHAKING MY HEAD In SARCASM****

MduZA:
hence they speak indigenous language called AFRIKAANS....

No they speak an old Dutch dialect, dirtied it up with some African and English expressions and dubbed it AFRIKAANS!

This is besides the point. As stated earlier, Where are the black South African forums that addresses "black/African" issues I can go and chime in on.

MduZA:
this forum belongs to an Igbo man...can you give a link to similar forums ran by your tribe...

Correction. It was started by a "black" Yoruba boy.

Per your reasoning, White South Africans are not an indigenous tribe from Africa so they are excluded from my questioning.