₦airaland Forum

BluIvy:
!Thank God South Africa is not like any other African countries and its people are unlike other Africans.

I have been trying to get people to realize the above for a long time, hanging around European peoples have warped your senses.

Unfortunately only the Nigerians have the guts to call you guys out for what you are!

Ps, isn't it voting time for you Ms Motswana.

paniki:
A judgement is an opinion, an objective opinion.
I get that you want me to educate you on something that you pretended to be knowledgeable about, but I think that it will be a waste of time.

****YAWN****

Waste of time ehh.... That's why you are still responding back.

right right!

paniki:
I was just just trying to gauge your understanding which I have now judged to be zero, it was just the usual pretentiousness.
I had already lined up judgements(interpretation of law) from the website listed below, but I just figured the argument would be pointless.
www.saflii.org.za/content/south-africa-index

Sorry , your so called judgment on my "understanding" is at present mere "opinion" and carries no weight since you haven't really said anything.

Please point to specifics, I do not have time to go through all that content which 99%, does not relate to anything being talked about here.

paniki:
What is your understanding that provision? How do you relate to other legislation?

My friend are we in court?

Do I look like a witness on the stand.

say what you want to say and I will rebuttal or revise if necessary.

paniki:
Point out the law(as in the actual provision). It can't be that difficult my brother.

Birth and Death Registration act

"Notice of birth of illegitimate child"


(1) Notice of birth of an illegitimate child shall be given
(a) under the surname of the mother; or
(b) at the joint request of the mother and of the person who in the presence of the person to whom the notice of birth was given acknowledges himself in writing to be the father of the child and enters the prescribed particulars regarding himself upon the notice of birth, under the surname of the person who has so acknowledged.

BluIvy:
Wethu! you can lament all you want but South African parents don't play with their blood. Go claim a Nigerian child from a South African women from her parents. Uzowuzwa umoya!

You are just exposing yourself. Are we claiming the child from the woman or the SA woman's "parents". What has the "grand parents" got to do with fathers rights.

Sorry to burst your bubble but as long as those "foreigners" are legally married and their names appear on that birth certificate, your gogo's can't trump their rights. I know most of your men run away from their responsibilities which is why when you dump the kids with the "grand parents" they become attached to them and so won't easily let go, but if you don't want that to happen then tell your sisters not to marry Nigerian men. We do not abandon blood.

Shikena!

paniki:
Hahahaha. Before I correct you, please tell me which section of Births and Deaths Registration act states that and how do you relate it to the South African Citizenship Act or Natural Fathers of Children Born out of Wedlock Act.
I'll be patiently waiting.

What are you on about?

paniki:
^^^^^^^
Which SA law?

Go and read your countries Birth registration act or better yet go to your Home affairs website and go read up on issues of birth registration for children born to Foreign nationals or in or out of wedlock.

Eish!

BluIvy:
You are misinformed ask your Nigeria brothers especially with mid northern & west Africans, South African parents would not even allow their grand children to visit places like Nigeria atlast Botswana are cousins. If you doubt me ask your brothers married to SAns women, they can never claim those children Lobola or no Lobola. Mna my mom was fully married and stayed for a while in Botswana now the whole family moved to SA. Its worse with Nigerians who never take their wives home, the parents neverxallow Nigerian fathers full rights. Just ask your bros.

I know a multitude of Nigerians who are and the key word here is "MARRIED" legally to SAfrican women who's kids straight up bear Nigerian first and last names. The only way "legally" speaking (according to SAfrican law) another parent be they from Sweden, UK or Nigeria can be barred from claiming their children is if they were never married ( lobola included) to those southie women or their names never mentioned on the child's birth certificate.

The Nigerians who don't take their wives or children home usually do so because they want to use them for paper and run away, children or no children.

Go tell your gogo's in the locations to read the law sometime before they do something foolish.

Real Naija men claim our flesh and blood!, same reason you must be from Botswana

ActivateKruger:
Dude, Nigerians only have barbershops and saloons in South African towns in sea of South African barbershops and saloons.
Fact is even Somalis do better business than Nigerians.
FACT

Define "better" in this context

BluIvy:
You are crazy kanti? If your mom & dad are Nigerians its different from when your mom is SAn & your dad is a Motswana. By the way, In SA children born of Nigerian fathers and SAn mothers in SA would never call themselves Nigerians but South Africans. To most South Africans the child belong to the mother side unlike in Nigeria where the child belong to the father.

Who are you fooling. If the Nigerian man pays lobola for the SA woman, the child is culturally his, if he does not fulfill this customary ritual like a lot of SA men do and run away , the child stays under the roof of the mothers family and can take on her surname.

A few Nigerian ethnic groups allow a child to bear the mothers family name if the would be father publicly rejects the child as his own.



PS , Are you insinuating that your Motswana father did not pay lobola and therefore you belong to your mother's family?

paniki:
I thought that morpheus24 would be impressed by BluIvy's Xhosa post. He's always been infatuated with Xhosa.

NO dummy, I have always been "intrigued" with the amount of Khoisan blood present in the Xhosa since I study the subject of African genetic variation. There is a difference.

BluIvy:
I am proud of my Fatherland Gweja, if not I would have never mentioned my Botswana on this forum but the reality is I am also a South African through!& through. I am not sure why this pains you soo much. Please get over it or find the nearest cesspit and take a dive.

I am Nigerian and also West African, infact I will go further to say I am African through and through and therefore claim rightful the birth right of my mother land Africa.

Therefore I can come and go as I please, piss, poo poo and curse out anyone in South Africa because Africa is my motherland.

The logic of a Motswana on display.

BluIvy:
Bantu base Mzantsi. Ncedani nixelele eli Gweja lohlukane noku rhorhozela emva kwempundu zam.

All that bantu talk doesn't change anything at all.

Be proud of your FATHERLAND!

vdGeist:
Genetically Somalis, Habesha, Oromo etc are closer to Berbers and Arabs than they're to other black Africans. this is fact.
Horn Africans just like Berbers are a result of back migration from the Middle East.

Genetically speaking African Americans have 15 to 30% European genes in them. Why haven't they been grouped with Caucasoids at this point.

Horn Africans have about the same % of genetic component in their DNA from West Asians, the rest is indigenous African and some how they fall into this category because their head shapes and nose bridges cluster with West Asians.

Again BS science.

I am not Bantu educated!

vdGeist:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
Caucasian race (also Caucasoid [1] or Europid [2] ) is the general physical type of some or all of the populations of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, Western Asia , Central Asia, and South Asia. [3]

Wikipedia nonsense again from 19th century race science supported by carlton coon.

Caucasian_ anyone belonging to the race of most europeans, also known as white

Caucasoid_Any one having the same cranio metric head shape as people who inhabit europe, this would include North Africans, West Asians, Central Asians and the likes.

In other words anyone who's headshape is similar to that of a white person can be refered to a caucasoid. An "oid" means to be like something but not quite as in Android or humanoid. So everyother people including Horn Africans are like White people but not quite like them.

Again an attempt to cast teh Caucasian net across the planet to claim peoples who are not "white" and use Caucasian as the archetype.

Sorry I can see through eurocentric science. You can believe that nonsense if if helps you sleep at night. Its all gibberish to me.

Why is it these non Africans below are not considered negroids or Africoids when it is plain to see that they can be considered as such. Double standards at play here.

Please stick to the topic on Zuma;s comments and let this one go. You wont win.

paniki:
vdGeist will lose this one because this is morpheus24's favourite subject. African anthropology turns him on, he probably gets a very stiff hard on coupled with multiple orgasms whenever the subject shows up.

I was expecting a comment from you, what took you so long?

vdGeist:
Berbers are west Eurasians, they're from the Levant.
All Caucasians are descendants of middle eastern farmers from the fertile crescent, Europeans, Berbers, Arabs, Iranians, north Indians even horn Africans are all Caucasians.
If Berbers are Africans, than Afrikaners too are Africans.

Eurocentric 19th century race science BS. The dubious substitution of "white" for "Caucasian"_ A so called anthropological cranio-metric measurement.

Meanwhile these guys are not Negro according to that pseudo science. The horn of African Caucasian comment is just laughable.

You can subscribe to that nonsense if it makes you feel better or simply stick to the topic. Afrikaners are not indigenous to the continent.

I didn't get Bantu education?

vdGeist:
Tell me, are north African Caucasians Africans?
Aren't all human beings Africans?

1. There's nothing such as a north African Caucasian?? That's a dubious way of including West Asians into Caucasoid aka "white" classifications.

2. Berber/Amazighs who are indigenous North Africans are not the same thing as calling invading Arabs "Africans.". Even they acknowledge that.

3. All human beings are not African. According to the "out of Africa" theory, All descendants of homo sapien sapiens originate from Africa. Big difference.

The South Africans do the hard work and rob the stores and then sell the merchandise or exchange it for Drugs to the Nigerians who in turn ship to Nigeria for use.

Business!

vdGeist:
Boers are not colonizers, but SA citizens.
what do you say about the Boers in poverty, are they not lazy too?

Settlers are colonizers as far as White man's history is concerned.

As far as being SA citizens, yeah but ya'll are far from being African in its true sense. Land grabbers is a more appropriate title.

BluIvy:
Jy jou boere seuntje! Jy fvcken sharrap! I dealt with your bloody racist defence now you come foaming rubbish. I am a South African as well so fvcken deal with it. Ignorant about South Africa jou Ma! Bloody settler!

Correct yourself fast fast.

You are from Botswana. Stop denying your papa!

khukhi:
That's true. SA forums are quiet silly in my experience.
I posted this here because the government is making fools out of the families of those detainees changing the story every day. Today home affairs acknowledged the detainees after denying it for days. Its not acceptable and those detainees are important to someone somewhere. I don't see them as you do. I see them as human beings and I'm concerned.

In a democratic society that holds itself up as an example to the rest of Africa, Human rights cannot be trampled upon, no matter how tempting it is to do whatever one likes when they know no one is looking.

osystein:
Now why is a SAn posting this here, do you enjoy these SA bashing threads.
Hopefully y'all won't be complaining that Nigerians are obsessed about your country when we post this SA topics here.

Nairaland is addictive and much more interesting

I've been to couple of SA forums. boring as hell or conversation is restricted to Afrikanner issues/complaints.

BluIvy:
Lol! Sorry to you too. There is no way in hell I would request a trip to Nigeria. Its not only the worst place to live but its the worst place to die at.

Coming from someone who has never been there. Such credibility.

Shows the intelligence level of an average Motswana woman, no ?

khukhi:
Its true. The ruling party likes to manipulate us at times. Remember this is the only province that they have no control over.
I feel that if more of you would be able to see how well managed CT is, you would understand why the majority of residents there prefer the minority party to lead there.
Personally I'm not supporting the statement that we are allowing for whites to rule us in our own land. Whats the point of having a black senator who cannot manage his territory.
As I said before,I believe in discipline and the prev. Administration of CT was not on point.
You cannot manage a city like you're playing house or running a small shop. The problem with us Africans at times is the level of proffesionalism used when conducting our jobs.

My Bra, Cape town is run quite well and I will give kudos were it is due. The DA manage the system well. The Racism in Cape town is not however overt in nature but institutional where European foreign professionals are preferred over locals, Renting is certain areas is restricted to segregate populations and a majority of the positions in companies in the CPT are kept "white".

Its their last beacon of hope to retain "control" of a province in the new SA and they will not give it up easily, Mark my words!

paniki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Average_height_around_the_world

Remove the white and colored population, they are skewing the male's numbers( Netherland average 6 ft). You and I know, Those pure bred Afrikaners are some big mofos.

lol at average height of Nigerian men at 5ft 4 ''. Imagine that, on average Vietnamese men are taller than us. Please, trash that rubbish stat .

paniki:
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You like using your experiences and observations(all anecdotal) to make sweeping generalisations and conclusions that have no real link to reality.

Anecdotal as these observations may seem, when you can see pass the heads of 95% of SA males you come across and this is not easily replicated when compared against Nigerian or West African males for that matter, That's saying something, Chommie!

paniki:
I doubt that morpheus24 fits his glorified version of west African build. .

I can bet some good money, I look a lot better than you, statistically speaking. I am that confident.

paniki:
Listening to morpheus24 will lead the uninitiated to believe that the average Nigerian guy is a big beast, but some of us know that to not be the truth.

Compared to a South African man, on average a Nigerian of any ethnic group would be