sostoz: Al shabaab is present in sa spaza shops in townships ....al quada: pakistanis and thier shops funding ....boko haram: nigerians drug lords in sa commmon thing about them they not scared not shaken even during xenonophobic attacks they are the groups who came back. Cold blooded babaric creaturers even if they attack they wont succeed it is easy to sport them coz they are foreign.
You can't attack a group of IGBO boys when they grouped together, very wrong thing to do. The boys don't play when they are in numbers, which is why they are not afraid even in the midst of XENOPHOBIC attacks.
Centrifude: South Africa is Already under threat from B.H most people just don't know it yet, there have been report of B.H members being part of the Nigerian Drug runners in S.A they use it as a place to raise funds, and the problem is that we can't really identify them as B.H members so if S.A would start working with Nigeria we'd all be able to share intel and capture some of the members operating here in S.A, because no one knows when those people will decide to go crazy and blow up S.A because its bound to happen, S.A has already p*ssed off many terrorist groups in Africa.
You should more afraid of your Muslims in the western cape areas, those dudes look for radicalized. The average North eastern Nigerian has no interest in South Africa. They see the place as a sell out country to the WEST.
BluIvy: in actual fact going with what i see on NL, i pray that no other country in Africa creates such a platform. I have never seen or heard anything as perverted and evil as things said on this platform.
You have spewed the worst evil least on foreigners and worst among yourselves. Your hate is contiguous. Thank God that South African will never experience a pot where all evils and hatred are spewed in and stared into a gory disgusting feast.
Do you think this forum shows your good side? Then I am scared to see your bad side.
Of course you spend most of your time on one section of this forum and can't see that freedom of expression of which you are a benefactor is prevalent on Nairaland and we are the only African country to have such open and non restrictive discussions. That is why this site is so successful.
You morons however try to hide your dirty laundry in the hopes that people will not see you for what you truly are. XENOPHOBIC.....WANNABE WHITE......sellouts. NAIJA AINT SCARED OF THAT AT ALL!!! and even though we do have a so called loud and in our face approach to discussions your moronic azz is actually learning a lot being on this site that's why you can't stop coming back.
I thank the creator of this forum Seun who won out to numerous other Naija discussion forums that have been in existence for over 15 years on the web. Ghanians and Kenyas have similar forums but not as much traffic.
When you guys create your own, come holla at me, so I can chime in on your discussions.
BluIvy: F***ckk you! I would think AIDS is nothing compared to the SICKLE CELL disease that Nigeria is the leading country affected with. Maybe nobody told you that SICKLE CELL disease is not even a blood disease but a genetic disease. You people are cursed and your genetics were modified as result of cannibalism. Aids you can still treated and a cureis on the was but your people are genetically deformed. Hopeless course of your perverted ways of deciding to eat human flesh.
Now go on tell me about AIDS you creation of perversion.
You Motswana bu.ff.on. Sickle cell Anemia has actually be postulated to be an ancient adaptative mutation to the prevalence of Malaria in Western Africa. An adaptation/Mutation that curves the blood cell into a sickle like shape to increase the fight off foreign attacks on the body.
Unfortunately the mutation causes these cells to attack the body and cause it to go into situations where the individual suffers severe symptoms. Its like blaming an autistic child for being autistic through no fault of their own.
Your GAY drunk and prevelante AIDS carriers however are guilty as charged of their behaviors.
Honestly if this thread wasn't titled Foreigner "CHILL OUT" zone, I for start wahala for here no be small but its good to see sane minds discuss issues.
I for one are on the front lines with the SA vs NAija saga but just came in here in say WASUP!
ApolloFist: A Fake uppidity negro that crushed your whole sh-t. You're right little buddy. The bible said it, don't argue with fools. I'm sure monthlyspectator realized it too at some point. He or she crushed your whole thread anyway. I really should stop coz the debators on this thread don't have anything real and tangible to say. Except 'we've been discussing this for years on this forum.' When someone gets it in on them. With real facts. I noticed that none of you have googled what I said you should. When we were Africas biggest ? Good for you.
Can you point me to a forum where black SA issues are openly debated?
ApolloFist: No comeback except a yawn. And we've been debating this for years on this forum? Thats it? Thats all you got? More proof of how South Africa out classes you. We will debate you to your grave. Get a clue little buddy. When you swim with the big boys, you better know how to hold your breath coz it gets real. Fast. Xenophobic people. Really we're gonna go there? Boko Haram anyone? 200 missing girls anyone? Teenage Suicide bombers who killed hundreds anyone? Instead you're gonna bust my chops to why South Africans finally snapped at the continual intrusion of the foreign presents in their country as most countries do. Really? Hey why not talk about how much AIDS we got. Oh no wait you can always talk about...oh no thats it isn't it? When the truth is in your face you retreat like little girls and lash out. Hm ofcourse. Now I'm also a slowpoke for responding to a few pounts you brought up.
Lets just put it this way, nothing you have said is exactly new information and if you are looking for rebuttals just run a search you Lazy du.mmy. You want to me play childish games with you to feed your S.TUPID Ego. We've been on this B>TICH since 2008 and this New fish on the block calling the GREAT MORPHEUS "little buddy", How insulting.
Go ahead rehash more information so we can see how smart you think you are.
ApolloFist: . You say that our country is only up because of the whites because you're mad we jad the intelligence to keep them around to learn their systems instead of plunge into the sh-thole Nigeria was up until at best 5 uears ago? You call us white because we can speak english properly and our mother tongues fluently while gaming on white people like you guys are. White people are gods in Nigeria so please spare me.
"The intelligence to keep them around" phrase is simply an excuse to misconstrue the fact that it was virtually impossible to get rid of them at the point of independence cause they have been there much too long to be uprooted or worst cast scenario a civil war ensue and they would be capable of holding you guys off but would loose in the long wrong since the country would suffer tremendously in terms of its economy
In comes Mandela who negotiates a settlement for political power in exchange for preserving economic power in the hands of the minority. 20 years later you throw around some numbers on how well a minority of blacks are doing and all is on course.
Spare me the dribble.
ApolloFist: . I have never seen people so proud of mediocre output like how you guys are. The only reason Nigeria is even looked at is because of South Africa. We showed the world that Africa is capable of sustaining a developed economy. And since economy is chiefly based on population, ugh here's an idea lets aee what we can do in Nigeria! And this happened because of the success of China and India who have shown that large numbers produce large results. What you are hearing of about South Africa are growing pains. Which we are already ironing out. All I've read from you are empty rebutals and baseless retorts. No facts, no figures. 20 years from now South Africa's black middle class will out class you in every single way and already are. Your only advantage is your numbers & fierce drive, not your skills, not your output. Argue all you want but it doesn't chamge the truth. Progress happens, even when its slowed. And South Africa is prpgressing as planned.
Nigeria will emerge at the end of this "race' as the true Black African nation that developed without the anchor of a minority capitalist European settler population. Like the Chinese and the Indians our economies and resources will be controlled by us and that fierce drive and indeed our numbers will prove to be the variables that initiate that change. We do not recognize you as true Africans but puppets playing "government" in a world order controlled by brothers of your settler population.
You have been sold the con of the rainbow nation state and incase you didn't know every other African country recognizes this and simply smile with you cause they want to stay and make money in your country. We however call you fake azz White wannabes out and you will watch as we build a true African nation state no matter how long it takes.
kgr28: Owwww I didnt know you have conscious mind! wonders shall never end. Conscious mind, that base its reasoning on race and pan-African shyt.. no wonder nigeria struggle to progress, its religion, race, being Africamd and tribalism...
I am 100% unapologetically Neo Pan Africanist as were most of the early leaders in Africa. I do not subscribe to the ideology of tribalism, ethnic hatred or religious bigotry.
I cannot be RACIST either because the suffix "ist" in the word implies that I have some sort of special power to alter the lives or actions of other so called "racial groups' around the world as most real racist do. The worst I can be accused of is being prejudice, which is not necessarily a bad thing seeing that if I prefer chocolate ice cream over Vanilla ice cream does not mean I hate or want to see the Vanilla flavor annihilated from the face of this earth, now does it?
kgr28: Hahahahahahahahaha Morph you are becoming a joke now!!! tackle the issue, not your race-pan-african-white-white-european-black foot-foot nonsense..
It might be nonsense to you blinded by the dream of a rainbow nation, but to conscious minds like mine, it isn't.
ApolloFist: Nigerians need to stop trying to put South Africans down. its actually sad. I thought you guys where confident. Confidence doesn't compare itself. You never hear South Africans going online to post crap about Nigerians like you guys do about us. Most Nigerians are exposed to lazy bitches & degenerates. They never meet South Africa's middle class or elite because we're wise to your scams and are at work, not drinking during the afternoon like you idiots do in South Africa. We could learn a lot from each other but you idiots insist on these d__k waving contests that don't get any of us anywhere. South Africans are coming up and we are kicking a$$. Even in Nigeria. We laugh at you guys because you play into the propaganda that the white owned media has laid out to you and you act so high and mighty living in the sh_t hole that you live in with the level of quality in the out put of your works. Plus you help white people with business and get ripped off. I had to get a white partner just to do business in Lagos because Nigerians don't like South African blacks who are genuinely interested in the development of your country.. We put ourselves down despite producing world class quality works. You guys have to buy your way into everything. We are called and head hunted everywhere we go. Call us lazy, which is rich coming from people who look to make a quick buck doing the least amount of work possible. But the next 20 are going to devestate you guys. Our millionaire population is growing exponentially and instead of trying to team up with them and gaining knowledge you post crap like you do. Are you stupid? China, Shell and BP own your country, they f__k you from behind the scenes and the only guys that can help you get it back are looking at you guys saying "shame" We are about slow grinding work. Not making a quick buck and blowing it. Thats why we are in your country showing your countrymen how to do their jobs properly. You Nigerians need to get a clue coz pointing fingers at South Africa is only making you look bad & making us get our act together. We're blazing trails over seas, without having grown up or living there. We produce world class work without living in london or America unlike you. That should tell you how smart South African blacks are. We concern ourselves with being the best at what we do, not making money. Your leaders having been selling you guys short for over 60 years & doing nothing for you. Now China has to come and fix things.....hahahahaha You Nigerians don't know anything. The funny thing is you guys have been exposed to Western culture far earlier than South Africans and for far longer but we, in 20 years have produced better results than you have. You guys are slowly becoming a joke because South Africans are getting their confidence & learning their stride. Something you don't want because when South Africans hit their stride & realize that you guys ain't about sh_t except hustling. We're gonna crush anything you have to offer.
The only reason you are sort out in Nigeria is because the diaspora who have been well educated refuse to come back to the country so they look for "second best"
The reason your so called elite and middle class don't mix with Nigerians in SA is because majority of the Nigerians you come across in SA are not middle class but under skilled unskilled village boys. Our middle class in and outside of the country do not want anything to do with Black saffers who act like White people, they fear they will be infected by "White-ism"_ A state of embracing the European way of living while in Africa
ApolloFist: You know I respect Nigerians for their fierce entrepreneurial spirit and their hustle savvy but all that is marred by your monumental penchant for broad ignorant statements and its time someone told you idiots the real deal.
Grammar. You can keep your respect. We don't want it.
ApolloFist: As you know Africa is the backbone of the world's industrial economy. Our resources are being extracted at prices that are relatively next to nothing to keep the rest of the world running. Now if I were Europe, whose economy is almost entirely dependent on Africa's rescources, I would take great steps to ensure that I can continue to extract these minerals at next to nothing because if I don't...I'm screwed. So I can rely on two things A. Corrupt African leadership (Which Nigeria is very well acquainted with. I mean corruption is the zeitgeist in Nigeria. My friends and I often joke that you spell Nigeria with a C...) B. Endless wars, famine and desease perpetuated by democracy because if a African leaders only has four years to make a difference, why would he, what difference can he make in four years right? This is why your Delta region is the sh_t hole that it is and the environmental disaster that it is. Because if Nigerians had to educate their privileged and that trickled down to their poor and they took control of their economy, Royal Dutch Shell wouldn't own Nigeria and oil prices would shoot up for them should you continue to make deals with them or BP. That's why its taken you guys 60 years to get your heads out of your asses. (Well we have China to thank for that, in some ways South Africa too because they showed the world that Africa is capable of developing and sustaining stable economies. And since Nigeria is entirely dependent on foreign aid to boost their infrastructure, you're welcome.) Now if Nigeria is the sh_t hole it is because of external forces trying to keep extracting oil cheap. What makes you think that it would be different in Africa's richest country?
Thank you professor for pretty much rehashing want is discussed plentifully on nairaland.
ApolloFist: South Africa has just come out of one of the most oppressive regimes in the history of man kind. One that was designed to systematically paralyses our minds and potential for development and make us slaves. Blacks were not allowed to pursue jobs of skilled labor and Bantu education was designed to make us blue collar workers. But because of our ingenuity and intellectual savvy, we were able to overcome that government and build. In 20 years we've achieved more than what Nigeria is only beginning to realize. When you hear of South Africans flourishing over seas, they blaze trails. We have a 21 year old rewriting the energy studies curriculum at Harvard University because of a fuel he developed and since there is no course that teaches the kind of energy study he's doing. He's creating a whole faculty in that department. Our artists continue to win Grammy awards & are exported to help produce American artists records. We don't pay them to work with us. They call us. Our art works are hanging on the walls of Paris & New York. We headline at the New York fashion shows without ever having moved or lived there. Unlike Nigerians who only flourish at that level when they're born overseas themselves. I am here in Lagos to show you guys how to do your jobs properly.I'm in finance. My wife, is working for one of your wealthiest businessmen to straighten out his books (Now till April)because he doesn't trust his countrymen to do so. She comes from a rural upbringing in Natal, got a scholarship to a prestigious university (worked as a waiter through out) and is now a high flying chartered accountant. Built herself a house and her mom a home, just bought me my dream car ('67 Shelby mustang)and she's only 28. I come from a relatively poor upbringing in Sebokeng. To pay for my schooling I worked as cleaner for the school I was studying in and a petrol attendant on weekends. I got a bursary to finish my MBA in finance after 3 years. Now I am currently building a home in Victoria Island and own 2 in South Africa. Stories like mine are typical in south Africa and our middle class are doing amazing things right now. A 26 year old boy is a millionaire selling T shirts, another is 29 years old and is sitting on the board of 4 prestigious firms in South Africa. Unlike Nigerians who are always looking for a way to make a quick buck with the least amount of work by trying to scam every body they meet. We believe in the slow grind of hard work.
****YAWN**** We match and I dear say exceed the above when given enabling environments. Locally or overseas born. That is an undisputable fact.
ApolloFist: Its true, for the most part South Africans are lazy, but not in the way you idiots propagate. We're lazy in that we could be titans of indistry but we allow excuses to happen far too easily because A. our population isn't as competitive as yours. We don't have to be, our population doesn't need us to be. B. Our media pumps this idea that government must do everything for its people, which in turn has people flocking to parliament with their hands out. Our poor unfortunately were raised to be workers and employees, not because they are feeble minded but because that is the only way they can acquire capital or a means to an end. Through employment. Where your population long realized that their government does absolutely nothing for their development & so you must be self sufficient, our poor are slowly realizing that fact. Your country realized this years ago, which is why corruption is a common trait amongst your people, including your priests. In 20 years all this talk will be quelled because South Africans are coming up. Look at how far we've gone so far. Unfortunately the media propagates this idea that we are lazy because the media is owned by whites, who have no interest in seeing blacks develop. And other Nigerians who'd rather do business with whites and get ripped off, than with black South Africans who have a genuine interest in seeing your country develop, because they've been brainwashed and don't even trust their own. I have even tried to do business with other Nigerians only to run into big talkers who make me do all the work and hope to profit off just being a proxy. But you idiots continue with crap like this instead of asking yourselves real questions like where are all our inventors and engineers and scientist. Why are they all going overseas and making Europe and America and Dubai rich instead of their own countries. That's what we talk about in South Africa. Things that matter. And I never get how you guys can be so high and mighty living in a shit hole like you do? Why did it take China coming in to Nigeria and South Africa coming in to Nigeria for you morons to get it together? The poor aren't lazy they are disadvantaged. Things we take for granted they value. Access to water and electricity being one.
First you say they are lazy but not in the way we think, then you claim they are disadvantaged. Which is it make up your mind?
PS lots of Nigerians are disadvantaged as well and see that their government cannot service them because of rampant mismanagement and corruption hence the drive for self sustainance, meanwhile the only reason your so called Poor in South Africa are able to keep running to govt is because YOU INHERITED INSTITUTIONS FROM THE APATHEID ERA THAT WERE FULLY FUNCTIONAL AND HAD BEEN IN PLACE FOR CLOSE TO 300 YEARS , hence the better access to government in terms of accountability. It has nothing to do with your peoples abilities at all but more so a coincidence and consequence of your history. PERIOD!
ApolloFist: Get a f--cking clue. And stop propagating this kind of rubbish. Africa is already divided as is, with you f--k heads spreading nonsense like this. You need to ask yourselves why Most Nigerians in South Africa are involved in every corrupt money making scheme and selling drugs while South Africans go over seas to learn and educate themselves to be of excellence and high stature.
Stop spewing senseless rubbish. The reason most Nigerians in SA are involved in underworld activities is simply because of the lack of access to the mainstream. The SAffers are already struggling with taking care of their unskilled and underskilled labor, hence the latent discrimination of Black Africans because they cannot absorb the inflow.
You are receiving the unskilled and under skilled work force of Nigerians and most African countries because of your proximity and easy movement.
Most Nigerians that make it to environments that are able to integrate immigrant populations thrive and excel in all fields in which they pursue. FACT!
ApolloFist: We are supposed to be building and growing each other by observing our strengths and learning them. But you morons play into how whites continue to control our economies by pointing fingers at everyone and highlighting their weaknesses or your perceived ideas of them and its sad. But South Africans are progressing and all this crap will stop when you see the results. Its good that you point things like this. It makes us look at our selves and improve. South Africans & Zimbabweans are gonna show Africans what intellectual black people can do when they apply themselves.
Word of Advice, Never discount Nigerians. We are a blessed people and everyone can see that. Our power combined as a people in AFRICA is terrifying to a lot and we are yet to realize this full potential. Look at the condition we are in yet we are able to thrive and stand out amongst other Africans
I do not want to build anything with South Africans. They are a warped people who have been around Europeans for too long and have lost a lot of their AFRICANESS and bond with their "RACE" in exchange for a pipe dream of multi-culturalism and a sol called rainbow nation state, a capitalist weapon of the world order to tame the people and allow for a more efficient exploitation of labour. I as a Nigerian stand opposed to that ideology and as such We are rivals in every sense of the word and will continue to remain such for the foreseeable future.
Your major trade partners are a legacy of your trade partners during colonial and APartheid rule. You do not trade anything with the rest of Africa and only seek to exploit it vis a vis for spring board status for foreign multianationals into the continent.
kwametut: Hes bluffing like his ancestors.... this is real Zimbabwe not the you read about in cheap newspapers. SOUTHERN ZIMBABWE MATABELELAND IS NDEBELES,ZULUS,XHOSAS WHO TRACE S.A ROOTS.
14: and they end up putting the so called "ugly girls" on their videos, why dont they put beautiful nigerian girls on their videos. all you see are SA chics on nigerian music video
Sharrap there my friend, they are using colored girls. The bantu ones they use are only there for us to feast our eyes on their big Nyash not their face.
See video for typical SA girl from location, na only nyash them get.
kgr28: Name 5 others, but not D'banji, cause hes unknown here( SA) hes the same just like those flat heads guys that turned Hillbrow and Sunnyside into pig-sty like Lagos.
We have taken over Hilbrow and sunnyside, if you want it come and take it back
BluIvy: I don't know many but the few I know are back to dating SA men. One of my friend who dated a Naija man is the reason i registered on NL. She was used, abused and lied to by the Nigerian guy. Who turned up to be married. He just wanted her money and connections. Now she is engaged and too highly pregnant for her Ex- South African fiance.
Good for her so you guys can continue to procreate your ugly babies with eyes on the side of their head and men with round bellys and big nyash. Plesae stop trying to improve your gene pool and leave fine naija boys alone so they can make fine babies with our naija girls/West African babes.
BluIvy: So I really do not know where this good treatment comes from? When they get their women to work for them and call them helpers from God. They are jealous and too emotional for men. They only marry for citizenship and access to free governmental grants. Ladies who are married to Nigerian guys are the most miserable wives. They are told what to do and separated from friends and families. They stay because they are embarrassed and that no Southy guys would want them again. That's what i know about them.
Bloody liar, Those girls know for a fact that Naija and West African men in general are better looking husbands who have a higher level of commitment when they get married and are obligated by culture to take care of their wives and never abandon their children. In other words security is what your ladies are looking for. The reason naija men watch out for your women when they marry them is because they are notorious for sleeping around after marriage.
Meanwhile your boys will sleep around with every girl after marriage, have kids which they abandon and trade ya''ll in when you get old and worn out. FACT!
na DBANJ cause this kind wahala. Leave SA girls alone unless na only nyash and run you wan do!
kgr28: Hehehehehe Morpheus brother, Bonang is HOOOOOT, since your boy dbanji is always in SA, because theres shyt to do in nigeria, he is the one whos after her...why cant he date your FINE charcoaled body/face bleached women??
I'll agree the boy is there to collect breeze, but as for that Hotness comment, you are just consoling yourself. If Dbanj make mistake carry that girl go him village for Ibadan, they will ex-communicate him for trying to marry a man.
I have said it once and I will say it again, the only thing SA girl carry pass for Africa na NYASH!!!
Give me fine charcoal girl or yellow paw paw Igbo woman I go take.
GIYAZZ: Arguing with this Krg whatever guy is like tryna fill a basket with water, the dude never gives up! He just keeps running around Nairaland looking for anywhere SA was mentioned, and then shows off his extreme s.tupidity combined with inferiority complex there. Smh I've known him for 2 good years on NL, and all I've witnessed him do is "fight for South Africa" online. . . A jobless old jealous nicompoop!!! *Spits* Agbaya!
Guy Kgr28 na Southie woman o, that is why the thing dey pain am
DBANJ see wetin you cuzz, even Tanzania girl better pass Southie girl o!
kgr28: What truth? The day Dbanji comes here and fill Coca-Cola Dome, peoples park or Bellville Velladrome with the capacity of 15 000 fans, then I will admit hes a real celebrity. Is he still singing though?? last song heard was Oliver Twist *Thanx to Kanye West, Kanye saw this monkey cant sing for shyt and he cut him loose. Light years ahead dont smoke cheap weed.. if your entertainers are that good and popular they would be filling shows every-were they go., not club show they normally do when they abroad, with 50 drunk white americans and europeans, same here in SA they perfom in 100 capacity clubs and only in jhb, no one in Durban, Cape Town and Bloem know that monkey Dbanji....big record companies would be in nigeria scrambling for their signaturs. Every big company is in SA, Universal, Sony, WarnerSA and EMI. do you think they are signing stones and grass.
Stick to the point Kgr28, that Bonang girl is ugly and the likes of fine boy like DBANJ should not be hanging with your so called " DRAG QUEEN"
Centrifude: Well... Somalians think of Bantu people as Slaves and Consider themselves to be superior to every other Black race on the Planet, so I don't really blame my Psychotic S.An brothers for killing them. Its not just S.An who don't like Somalians.
The video has nothing to do with the above statement and a lot to do with jealousy and envy over foreigners who are able to use a little of what they have to survive.
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