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InvertedHammer:
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Just like the rest of us, you don't know.

You are relying on a supposed letter written to the Philippians by another human to buttress your ignorance.

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You don't believe in the Bible. So I'm not having a word with you.

But I challenge you to come to the Lord's Chosen Church. God is demonstrating his power there. A trial will convince you.

BluntTheApostle:
This is wrong.


Heaven, as used by the Bible, is the curve of the sky (the firmament) and everything visible and invisible to the eye from earth.


When the Bible said In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth it meant that God created the universe.


Now, God will destroy the old heaven and earth. This means that God will destroy the universe, and there will be a new universe.


We would all live on the new earth.


However, what I am not sure is whether there are humans on some other planets in the universe.


It might surprise you to know that NASA has discovered a planet they termed the " new earth"

Just like our own earth, it is in the habitable zone of its star, and should have water to sustain life.

So, who knows?

For you to believe there might be humans on earth-like planets somehow is a dent on your knowledge of the Bible.

Bible has told us what God did in the creation. Moreover, it is called "the Earth" not "an Earth" or "Earths"
And he created Man on the Earth.



Concerning New Heaven, it's not something to really debate on. Whether it's a new Universe or a New dwelling place of God. It's doesn't affect our faith.

But you know, the living place of a single man is not the same as the living place of a married man.
Revelation 21:5 "Behold, I make all things new."

I strongly believe many Saints will have their place in Heaven according to John 14:1-2,
See Ephesians 1:3,20, Ephesians 2:6

"and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,"

Ken4Christ:
James didn't have much revelation knowledge about the new life in Christ. What he had was experiencial knowledge because he was close to Christ.

It was Apostle Paul that Christ gave the revelation knowledge of the new creation. You will never hear Paul referring to Christianity as a religion. He only used the word religion twice with reference to the Jews.

Religion is full of ceremonies devoid of the demonstration of the power of the Holy Spirit

Christianity is a living and a loving relationship with the living God. It is not a religion.

There is no definite pattern in true Christianity on how we should worship God. Just let the Holy Spirit lead you.

Crap.
The pattern and lifestyle of God is "Holiness, without which no man will see the Lord." Hebrew 12:14
It is not possible to be in a relationship with God without righteousness. Matthew 6:33

Religion is a set of guided principles created by a religious leader(s).
If you don't diligently follow the principles set by your spiritual Leader you cannot be said to be religious.
That's religion.

If for you anything goes, you are christian by mouth, then you are not practicing religion. That's why James 1:27 says your religion is vain.

2 Peter 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

Ken4Christ:
There is no right religion. Religion doesn't save. Even Christian religion will not save you.

Salvation is in Christ alone. You can be a member of a church and yet not in Christ.

Please don't say that.

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled
before God and the Father is this, To visit the and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Wonderful.
A Muslim man that turned down a woman's invitation to Chosen Church uncountable times rushes to share his testimony after hungry, no-nonsese armed robbers refuses to collect his valuables because they perceived he's a Chosen and don't want trouble from our God.

Experienced Arm robbers indeed.

Janosky:
My reason for joy is this:
Pastorpreneur Could not refute Jesus words at John 9:4 & John 20:17, Jesus said himself is a worshipper of his God.

John 7:16 Jesus said himself is a messenger of his Father's doctrines.

Oga Pastorpreneur, did Jesus Christ lie @ John 20:17, John 9:4 & 7:16?

The Church of Jesus Christ is the church of John 20:17 & John 9:4 espoused by Jehovah's witnesses on this forum.

Oga Pastorpreneur no follow.

You are cherry picking the scriptures.

•Jesus did say he is the Son of God, John 10:36, John 9:36-38
•Jesus said he came out from God. John 8:42, John 16:27-28
•Jesus said the Holyghost came out from God. John 15:26
•All his disciples believed he is equal with God and worshipped him. John 1:1-12 etc
•Jesus was crucified for the sin of BLASPHEMY. Matthew 26:65-66, John 10:33

And resurrected on the Third day. Doubting Thomas was in doubt.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God. 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Ken4Christ

Learn from this. Although the word Trinity or Rapture is not written in the Bible, they are EXPRESSED

TruthHurts100

Question please: Are you a Christian or a Muslim?

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

Banilla

The dwelling place of God is extremely beautiful. How much more the New Heaven he creates. Read Revelation 21.

It's not only about what Heaven looks like (John 14:1-3). It's the eternal rewards. We shall be in God's likeness. That's the position the devil/fallen angel was fighting for.

Romans 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

Daniel 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Also see Phillipians 3:21
2 Corinthians 4:17

In Revelation 19:9-10, John the beloved was shown the wedding of the lamb in Heaven. He was so overwhelmed he fell down to worship the being that showed it to him. But was restrained.

If you want to read Revelations of people who went to Heaven and Hell and what they saw. The trusted source I know is
https://www.divinerevelations.info/

Yes. There are sources that cannot be trusted because the devil is out to deceive people. He can speak many truths and include a little lie which does it's evil work/damage.

COME TO THE LORD'S CHOSEN. Pitch your tent. Miracles, wonders, genuine Salvation, and a glorious Christian life awaits you.

Jumbojax:
Heaven is a perfect place filled with perfect ppl, but we are not and thats why The Good God of the universe came down to the earth lived a perfect life and died for imperfect ppl. So that if we believe in Jesus Christ alone and trust in Him alone and His life work and not our own works or repentance ( Matthew 6:33) We will be with Him forever in His perfect paradise heaven
Eph 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOT of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God:
NOT of works, lest any man should boast.

Banilla

I hope it's not where you are going with this?
Don't misunderstand that scripture. Although, we trust in his grace, we must abstain from all appearances of evil (1 Thessalonians 4:18, Mark 9:43, Romans 6:1, Revelation 21:8 ).....to name a few. There are so many verses.

1 Thessalonians 5:22 "Abstain from all appearances of evil"

1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."

Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

spartan117:
The person you are speaking to is a notorious false prophet sent by the devil to mislead people on this platform. All what he has told you so far are grevious lies mixed with half truths that will ensure you don't make heaven.

If you really want to be saved I'll advise you run into the closest RCCG, Winners or Christ Embassy branch in your area today. Tell them you want to receive Christ and will like to speak with a counselor.

I attend none of the churches listed above. I mentioned them because they are the most widespread Jesus believing churches I know.

God bless you.

You didn't remember the Lord's Chosen.
The Lord's Chosen is where God himself has been directing unbelievers/sinners and pastors to.

stephenponti:
heaven is not a place to go, it's a kingdom withing you!

Jehovah's witness?

John 14:1, Revelation 21:1-6

2 Corinthians 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.

BluntTheApostle:
Heaven is a state of everlasting peace and everlasting happiness.


We don't go to heaven, rather we experience heaven.


At the end of time, the heaven and the earth will be destroyed, and there will be a new heaven and a new earth.


On this new earth, we will experience heaven (a state of endless joy and happiness where there will not be death, no darkness, no suffering, no anguish).


To your last question. What would we be?


We will be like God in Holiness. That is, we will be incapable of sinning. In short, we would be perfect. We would be new creatures.

Banilla

From my Bible knowledge, I'm of the opinion that those who are called to the wedding of the Lamb (Revelation 19:9) will have their place in New Heaven.
While those who are resurrected after the great Tribulation (Revelation 20:4) will have their place in the New Earth.

John 14:1 "In my Father's house are many mansions. I go to prepare a place for you".

InvertedHammer:
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The Bible tells us that heaven is a place with mansions and roads paved with gold. Why would a spirit want to live in a mansion with physical structures paved with gold?

The translation of the Bible from Greek to Latin to English really distorted the whole message. If you read the original Latin version of the Bible, you will be distraught at the level of misinformation lost in translation. Eg. Lucifer was used interchangeably with Christ. But the English translation totally ascribed Lucifer to Satan. Go figure!

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Banilla

The righteous will have a glorious body.

Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

superCleanworks:
may his wretched soul continue to receive high quality ELECTRIC SHOCK for the next 600 years. It will never be well with such people.

From your statement, you don't seem to know the reality of eternity. It's it 600 years, it's forever and ever for anyone who dies in sin.

Don't pray such evil for anybody because it is the devil that is moving people to do evil things. Whether through poverty or demonic possession or deceptions

The greatest sign of the coming of Jesus Christ is the One World Government {Revelation 17:12-13}, One World Financial System {Revelation 13:16-18}, and One world Religion {verse 15}.

This initiative has been declared by the U.N and WEF in their agenda called 2030Agenda or The Great Reset Agenda.

Prepare for Rapture.

Starhearts:
Where is d church located
Or
D contact of d G O

At Lagos

Oshodi- apapa expressway, Ijesha Bustop

O8O34463991

If you know them, try to reach the G.O of the Lord's Chosen. He will pray and she and her son will be found.

I'm so confident because there are so many testimonies like this in Chosen. Even today a woman testified how her kidnapped mother miraculously escaped from kidnapper's captivity, 24 hours after G.O's prayer

shomutuski:
Na you sabi ooo

You can watch debates. Christian Prince is very vast in Arabic, Quran and Hadiths. So many Muslims, have challenged him. None could win him. They ended up converting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC-XekoTU7Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap0PfjChPLA

nazicartel:
They are all terrorists. Peace my ass

Haba! atleast check the website to see what its about now

shomutuski:
I’m not here to answer you! If you look closely at yourself, you are already looking like whoever you are describing. Someone that has never read the Quran telling whats inside from google, like the christian crusaders never killed or the Bible Old Testament did not mention about killings.

Go and seek happiness, regardless of what you say I am happy, my family is happy, we good.

You judge a religion by what it's founders do, not by what it's disciples do.

Christian crusaders whatever you call them are in violation of Christian code if they acted violently against any man. On the otherhand, Jihadists are simply carrying out their religious duties given to them by Allah and his companions in Quran and Hadiths.

Mohammed and his companions tore an old woman into two using two camels. That's not only violent but bloody evil.
The earlier you critically think and judge righteously, the better for you.

ATIKU better be very careful with the U.K government. They are WEF partners.

Five African presidents were assassinated or died suddenly during the Covid pandemic most of which were outspoken against WHO mandates and policies.

nazicartel:
America should ban Muslims from coming to their country. Maybe they can exempt middle East Muslims. Those ones there are learned morethan African and far East Muslims

Make your post more meaningful or spicy by adding this link. Islam is a religion of peace.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

bizzle2:
But You Just Did Mr Holy Quaran. Extremism and violence are the hallmarks of your peaceful religion

@Birniwa Indeed it is!
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

shomutuski:
You are not a true Muslim, you don't need to abuse anyone's faith, i get that seeing your deen dragged in the mood and described in a negative light is quite triggering but you need to go above all this petty religious beefs on nairaland. The usa is the biggest buyer of oil from saudis.

As Muslims, we should really show the true light of our religion to others. we have Christians killing and maiming others everywhere even the so called ipob they are Christians, isrealis killing Palestine are also Christians or Jews. The world is bleeped up already. If you google good deeds from muslims they are alot of them all over the world today so whatever i read on here doesn't bother me one bit.

In my community both home and abroad, i have Christian family who i love and cherish and they love me back, we eat from the same plate. Its only the enlightened ones that understand really the plan the west has for Islam, bad plans. they already succeeded with the media and destabilisation of the middle east.

Most of the people on nairaland here are frustrated and bitter i know that for sure, economy no easy so the best way is to vent.

Things go better my people

One love

Show me one Christian that has killed in the name of his religion, I will show you 100,000 Muslims that have killed in the name of Allah.
Shouting Allahu Akbar.
You can go to liveleaks video and watch your brothers.

And why not? because killing infidels and apostates is commanded by Allah in Quran. And in the Hadith, there are sufficient examples from Mohammed and his companions.
Contrarywise, Christians are commanded to love their enemies and never retaliate.
More importantly, all the apostles of Jesus showed that example.

samuel051:
Abeg e.. tattoo is just another form of scar, so if I carry razor cut some incision for my body,rub am something..I'm now a candidate of hell . Make una relax abeg

Are you sure you don't have a comprehension issue?

I said if you repent, you are forgiven. Tattooing is forgiveable, even if it cannot be removed from the skin.

But the Mark of Beast is a mark from hell. It could be in form of microchip or vaccine. And it will be impossible to participate in the looming cashless/digital financial system without it.
Anyone who takes the Mark will be damned eternally. There is no forgiveness for this.
It is even likely that the person who takes it will controlled by technology or an evil spirit and won't even desire repentance.

Peter Obi do you realise this makes you a chief Enemy of the globalist/ parasites (WEF, U.N, global wlites/parasites) because you are working against their One World (Communist) global agenda. 2030agenda

Just another reason why they will fight more to steal this election with compromised voting machines. But with God nothing shall be impossible. Mercy o Lord.


t. me/TheConspiracyHole/12559

https://twitter.com/bitcoin_brown/status/1383624639377645571 (VIDEO OF ORCHESTRATED PLANDEMIC AGENDA)

sqlPAIN:
My wife just gave birth to my second child of recent and has been in the hospital for almost a week. Yesterday I went to the hospital to bring her and the new born to the house after a long stay at the hospital but to my greatest surprise, my father refused to allow us into the house. He had even already brought out our belongings. Me and my dad have not been in good terms since I got married to my wife in 3 years ago(even before then). He has been on my neck for years now, constantly and violently reminding me of how I should have left his house year ago and go live on my own, constantly throwing insult at me, telling me how I'm a disgrace to him and men in general, saying he regrets birthing me. I'm constantly letting him know that I'm not yet ready financially to stand on my own but he wouldn't listen. We've had countless fight turned physical because of this issue. Yesterday was the tip of the iceberg for me because I'm planning on arresting him... He brought out our belongings and my first child, saying we would not sleep in the house. We were all outside from morning till evening, I had to go beg a neighbour to helpe accommodate my wife and new born for the mean time. I'm currently typing this from a friend's place. I'm planning on arresting him because how can someone be so wicked and heartless to your own son.

Do you know the Lord's Chosen headquarters at Ijesha Bustop Lagos?

Come there are receive prayers. The yoke shall be broken. Our God is a present help in the time of trouble. The God of Chosen is a God of miracle, signs and wonders.

emonkey

samuel051:
1. Is the tattooed body going to heaven or soul?
2. Is the soul wearing the tattoo or just the flesh?
I need answers..

1) The Body returns to the dust from where it was created. The Soul either goes to Heaven where it is given a glorious body (Phillipians 3:21) or to hellfire where it is given a body of death (Rev. 20:12, Mark 9:44)

2) The Soul does not wear tattoo. It is done on the flesh. But the soul will be judged for what was done in the flesh. (2 Cor 5:10)

The blood of Jesus washes our sins away. If you genuinely repent and are sorry for your sins (e.g tattooing), your name will be blotted out from the book of death and written in the book of life, even if the tattoo is on you because it is difficult to be removed.

The only mark that is unforgiveable and irredeemable is the mark of the beast, which is implemented during the One world government/Financial system of the Antichrist (i.e After the Rapture of Saints). A cashless digital system.
Revelation 9:11-14

emonkey

samuel051:
where you there when he went to heaven and why isn't he back like the Bible depicted?


Even Bible says to each his own,judge that you may not be judged.
Do we win earthly body for heaven or soul?

I need answers

2 Corinthians 5:10
"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad."

I think this is self-explanatory.

Smoking, fornication etc are all works of the flesh/body.

Galatians 5:19-21 "Now the works of the flesh are made manifest: envy, .....

• W.H.O mandates e.g get the Toxic spike protein covid Vaccines or lose your job etc.

• Climate Change policies e.g Netherlands have seized farmlands of 3000 farmers and euthanized (killed) majority of cows because cows are causing climate change.

• Countries implementing the Social Credit System and those looking to do so like China, Canada, New Zealand etc.

• Engineered scarcity of fuel, famine and cost of living.

Mostly all countries that are compliant to W.E.F's goals and mandates

Ok