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 Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 1:54pm On Oct 15, 2012 |
goofie: hey guys.sorry i disappointed u but i ws a little ill. but i dont kno if i'l be allowed to join in now. Sexkillz pls i need ur response ASAPThank you baby. I want to make another contribution but not sure if its too late. |
| Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 4:31am On Oct 15, 2012 |
ayobase: Don't even try mixing kerosene and water.Good Morning Mr. Ayobase. Superiority means better than or dominant and head is synonymous according to religious verse with leadership. Leadership and superiority is not the same thing. Leadership is about guidance, leading, advising, and mentoring. Superiority is about exerting an illusion of self-gratification of self-proclamation. You seem to be confused with my argument because I have been consistent since my initial opening. I stated that a man has a right to assert his role as a head in his family but does not have a right to assert authority or superiority. My definition of head is leadership or representation of a unit. Would you tell your son that he is superior over his sister simply because he is a boy soon to be a man? How do you think your daughter will take such news? How do you think sibling rivalry occur? Let me help you, when a parent or parents influence a child to believe he or she is better or superior over her or his sibling(s) hence sibling rivalry. Of course my conclusions are illogical to you, you stated that your mother is not born again but felt the need to quote her statement about women that do not submit to their husbands, their Lord is ungodly hence insulting millions of non-traditional families as if your future marriage would be perfect because your future wife would be submissive. Yes, I am not religious and do not follow organized religions but respect people’s right to practice their beliefs. Do you? You are not making any sense, what do I know what I am talking about? Are you referring to me quoting contradicting quotes from your religious book or my personal experience as a married woman? How am I wrongly practicing what I don’t believe in? Were you confusing my argument with your previous opponent? I countered my previous opponent’s religious verse with contradicting verses from the same source. Get it right. Religion and spirituality are different in my book; religion is about follow an organization viewpoint of what is right, wrong, and agreed upon. Even your religious book states that man shouldn’t rely on thy own understanding of the word, who do you think provide enlightenment? It is certainly not mankind. There is one God yet there are over 100 religions pertaining to one deity. I am spiritual and I believe in the guidance of the Holy Spirit and believe that the creator isn’t an author of confusion and the creator certainly wouldn’t contradict itself just like your bible contradicted you and my previous opponent. Again, what am I wrongly preaching about? The source came from your religious book. Since you quoted reference from the bible, there is nothing in Genesis that states that Adam had authority over Eve and if you were referring to dominion that Adam had over the land and creatures, he lost dominion when he “sinned”. Eve was created from side of Adam and became one with him. God told Adam and Eve to go forth and multiply the world. There is nothing that said Adam had authority over Eve. I find it funny that a talking serpent convinced Eve to persuade Adam to eat the forbidden fruit but did you know before the creation of Eve, another woman was created? Did you know creation happened twice in the book of Genesis and Shakespeare left his signature in the bible as well? See this is why you shouldn’t read epistles without the discerning of the Holy Spirit hence discordance of your ramblings. According to your argument, a paraphrased, over-translated, and revised bible is the source of truth. Hilarity! Mr. Ayobase, you stated, “We all knew how the story ended. Adam was held responsible, and not Eve”. According to your bible, Adam and Eve were punished. Adam lost dominion over the animals and land and Eve would experience pain during childbirth and generations would be reminded of the “Great Sin”. Why are you quoting biblical verses that you clearly do not understand or comprehend? How are your biblical verses relevant to those of Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hindu believers to name a few? Are you illustrating that Christian religion is better for the world and families? I spoke to a friend of mine that is a Muslim and he said that Islam is the way of life and Muslim families are much stronger than any other religious families. Although I don’t support polygamous marriages, I find it awe that a man can take care of two or more wives and not have a single divorce threat from any of women. Spouses that work and support each other remain married. A Muslim woman in a polygamous marriage have to share her husband with other wives until it is her turn she had to assume leadership of her unit until her husband return home. It is impossible for a man to lead more than one house but then again polygamous marriages isn’t for everybody. You admit that becoming one isn’t an issue but say that one voice is required. Yes, united voice is required. A man shouldn’t make affecting decision about his family without consulting his wife. A wife shouldn’t make affecting decisions about her family without consulting her husband. A rowdy family occurs when two parents aren’t in agreement and not in united front. You contradicted yourself again, you stated a man is loving, caring, courteous, and understanding despite being superior. It is like making lemonade with no sugar. As I stated in my previous argument, how can a man who thinks he is better or dominant over his wife be loving and courteous? A loving and courteous man will value his wife’s opinion and hear what she has to say as he represent his family. Who said a woman can’t question the motive of her husband? Any decision her husband makes affects her and if she has a brain she will ask questions to ensure complacency. You painted this shaky picture as if all husbands are godly and just. Newsflash, men can make vapid, weak, and illogical decisions that can destroy a family but because he is the man, the family should deal with it huh? Astounding! There has been a time where my husband was faced with hard decisions and collectively we talked it through and made a decision that was best for the family. My husband doesn’t make affecting decisions without my input nor I make affecting decisions without his input. It is call a mutual partnership…learn about it. There is nothing like a man having his wife’s contributing support when he makes a good decision. You are termed imperfect because you are human, simple as that. There is nothing special about being a man as for a woman as well. You are no different than a leaf that needs sunshine and water to survive. You have every right to self-proclaimed superiority at the end of the day it doesn’t make you invincible. If you don’t think you are better than your wife who will? What harsh and corrective steps were you referring to? Beating? Slapping? Cursing? In some countries, it is against the law to cause physical harm to individuals. You may say in Nigeria a man has a right to hit his wife, is the law of the land superior to the laws of your bible? I don’t think God intended for man to treat his helpmate like a rebellious child but to love his wife as Christ love the church. You can’t be a part time Christian and pick and choose which verses are applicable to you. Who take harsh and corrective steps toward a rebellious man? If it is good for the goose then it should be good for the gander. “Women that are supposed to be married still single”, what do that mean? Did you have a blabber moment? What does that say for men who are supposed to be married but are still single? Do you respect people’s choice not to be married? Not everyone wants to be married. Just because it is a Nigerian thing to be married, it doesn’t mean that it is a world thing to be married. I have high respect for single parents and I think single parents are brave in raising their children and continuing their lives without a partner. I have no idea what it is like being a single parent but I am sure the readers and judges may know someone that are a single parent and being a single parent has nothing to do with lack of submission. Why are you against gender equality? Do you think that it make you less of a man because a woman have a right to work and vote? Everything doesn’t revolve around you or it about you. I see nothing wrong with women preparing meals for the house, but I have an issue with a weak man expecting a woman who also spend long hours earning wages to provide for the family and still expect to take care of the home. Astounding! Since you like quoting biblical references, if a man doesn’t work, he doesn’t eat. What do you think that mean? Do you know that there are families where the man doesn’t work and the woman is the main breadwinner? You claimed to like truth and being free, do you still think a man should “assert authority and superiority” over his working wife when he doesn’t have the means to provide for the family? Let be honest and realistic. Is a man that doesn’t work and provide for the family still a man? Remember you said that a woman’s place is in the kitchen and maintaining upkeep of the house. Would it be fair for a woman to leave her jobless husband since he can’t provide for her? See according to you, it is okay to correct a woman who questions a decision or express gender equality but if a woman leaves her husband she is uncouth and uncultured. Hypocrite! Mr. Ayobase, your claim about faulty children relating to faulty women is sophomoric and vapid. If a child is faulty that means the head lacks proper leadership and thus need to be replaced. Isn’t the man responsible for his household according to you? So how it is any fault of the woman? You can’t pick and choose what a head should be responsible for regardless if it is good or bad. You sleepy? Your epistle about political organization is flawed and the last time I have checked a president can be vetoed and impeached. Enough said. You stated that superiority is factual reality in your definition, but do you think China have factual reality when they feel they are better than Blacks? I am sure you will say they can’t be better than Blacks, but a man can be better than a woman according to your factual reality? I bet you have wild dreams and imaginations huh? I digress. I am sorry but I zoned out when you were talking about courts, civilizations, and preaching. My statement about eye for an eye was simple as treating others the way you want to be treated. It is not that difficult to execute, but practice does make perfect! My statement about a rebellious child has nothing to do with a woman trying to control the man. Why would I support a woman controlling a man if I don’t support a man controlling a woman? I am not confused like the authors in your religious book. It is about a man treating his wife like she is insolent and subservient. It is about a man not respecting, listening, understanding, compromising, and loving his wife to the full extent according to his divine expectations. You back a cat in a corner soon, it will claw it way out hence my statement about coddling a rebellious child. Miscomprehending a message is deadly. I can’t tell you what a role of a man in his house if he is not my husband. I can tell you the role of my husband as the man and it would only work for my household. Each relationship/marriage is different and there is no cookie cutter relationship. I am sure you know that but you will try to deny it to support your claim that Christian relationships are the best but I must say Christians are the leading religious group with higher divorce rates. I know truth hurts. Of course you will say that it is because of women not being submissive and trying to control the man. You asked me what happens to women who refuses to submit to their husbands, but what do you tell my friend who is submissive to her abusive husband that each day could be her last day? The only reason she hasn’t left her husband is for the sake of her children and she rather dies in shame than to live to see her daughters and son start their own families. Wow! Just because a couple haven’t divorce doesn’t mean they are happy and living a “Christian” relationship. What was your epistle about love again? Agape love is brotherly love and my love for my husband is different for my love toward my siblings. Let’s not confuse the two. You stated that my husband understands, loves, respects, and know the true meaning of “one” because I submit to him and stated that I need to try an experiment. Why do I need to try an experiment if the way my husband and I functions works for us? No thank you, I like how my household is ran and there is no chaos, threat of neither mutiny nor discordance in my partnership marriage and I wish you well in your future marriage. Thank you. |
| Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 1:44am On Oct 15, 2012 |
Moderator My opponent posted his counter in two separate sects do I quote both sects? |
| Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 1:35am On Oct 15, 2012 |
ayobase: .Hmm mmm. |
| Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 1:21am On Oct 15, 2012 |
LMAO@erasing half of my argument and only answering one sentence.  |
| Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 1:08am On Oct 15, 2012 |
ayobase: (Amidst Laughter) Believe me, I was tempted to copy and paste from MrBrown's and don8's....good points they have there.....Kudos!Good morning Mr. Ayobase. Pardon me for being intrusive but you have mentioned that you asked three of your girlfriends for their opinions regarding this motion. I respectfully decline the offer to guess bearing in mind what can three single ladies (that you haven’t felt moved enough to propose to any them) tell me, a married woman who is not a newlywed about the experience of marriage? Exactly sir. Mr. Ayobase, your mother sounds like a lovely lady and allow me to eloquently address her statement regarding Lord, Husband, and not being godly. I asked a friend of mine who is a pastor of his church about what your mother said. He told me that God is a jealous God and it is specified in the tenth commandment that Christians shouldn’t worship any gods but the Almighty. I asked him if calling husbands, lord is putting gods before God? He responded yes and in fact when breaking one commandment, you have caused transgressions of the law therefore committed an ungodly act. Hmm. I respect your mother’s right to live her life however she sees fit as so much you or anyone doesn’t know what goes on behind closed doors. That sir is a different matter for a different day. . After reading your initial motion, I am not convinced that a man has a right to assert his superiority nor authority in any style of relationships. You can only narrate dinner table conversations shared between your three girlfriends, non-religious mother, and unpublished rap album you were trying to articulate. Are you certain that you understand Ephesians 5 thoroughly as a Christian male? Were you asleep when your Sunday school teacher elaborated Genesis and the creation of mankind? Do you understand Galatians’ definition of love? Did you read the information with thy own understanding or discernment of the Holy Spirit? It appears that I have bombarded you with indicative questions however it is important to know if you are speaking from common sense or with a feeding spoon. Sometimes we have the tendency to repeat something spoon-fed without concrete knowledge of our consumption. A husband has moral right to enforce obedience in his marriage according to whom? During the old days, non-traditional families were heard of and standard marriage consisted of a man, a woman, and future children. Nowadays, a typical relationship may have two women or men partnership. Who is the “husband” in a lesbian marriage? Who is the “husband” in a gay marriage? I hope you are not talking from a biblical reference because even your religious book said Christians should follow the laws of the land and in some lands, homosexuality marriages are acceptable. Women in some parts of India are allowed to have more than one husband and pay the groom price. It was mentioned on the supporting team, that men pay bride prices therefore should assert authority and superiority over the bride. Should the woman in India that pay groom price assert her authority and superiority over her husband(s)? Some chauvinistic males and demure women would say “such absurdity nevertheless”, but I would no more absurd than a woman submitting to a religious man that treat his wife like a Nobel Peace ashewo. The adage, “Good child is for the father, and the bad one for the mother” is the funniest thing I have ever heard! There are single mothers and fathers all over the world and many of them came from failed marriages and spousal deaths. Do we hold them accountable for the behaviors of their children because they are not in a marriage? Do you think children from martial relationships are superior to children in single parenting relationships? I have a friend who is married and she is submissive to her husband to the core. If her husband say “jump”, she say “how high sir” and she loves her children dearly to the point where she is willing to endure constant beatings and can die any moment now. She is teaching her daughters no matter what submit to this type of man to no fault and her son doesn’t respect her. The little boy is turning out to be like his father and abuse her as well. Is it the mother’s fault that her son is “bad”? This is a Christian family’s persona story and the husband love reciting the verse, “wives submit to thy husbands” while embracing her face with shattering blows. She live sin fear of a man who she submits to and treat her as if she is a baby machine. What her husband doesn’t know she had a miscarriage not too long ago and if she continues to submit to an abusive male who is a Christian and loves the Lord, she will soon join her unfortunate baby. Is this what a man of such authority and superiority asserts order in his home by creating voluntary chaos? An imperfect man who thinks that he is above the law and God that he can disobey the instruction of a Christian husband from your religious book. You stated that man came first and women follows, I presume you quoted the statement from your religious book. Now take a walk with me as I paint a visual picture for clarity. “Let there be light and night and day was formed on the first day, animals, water, vegetation, air, land, and man was created by the time HE rested. Man named all the creation before his eyes and was alone. “A man should never be alone”, a woman was created from the side. She became his helpmate and became one with man. I like math, do you? 1+1=2, 1+0=1, and 2-1=1. My husband and I were individuals that represent 1 before marriage, we joined forces as 1 after marriage, and if my husband decides to become superior and assert authority then we would become 2 minus 1. There is a significant difference between authority and leadership. It is his role to assert leadership but not his right to assert authority for he is not superior over me nor I am superior over him for we are one. It was said by a member of your supporting team that a superior man isn’t imperfect if he is better or excellent. If God thought that man was superior in every sense, man would have been alone with his animals and vegetations. A superior man doesn’t need a partner or a helpmate. What is the difference between God and “superior” man? A superior man is an Earthling that needs God wholeheartedly. A wise woman will not allow her husband to suffer at the hands of his own foolishness. A wise woman will speak up and address issues with maturity and elegance. A wise man will acknowledge the present of his wife and take pride knowing that his wife has his back even if she assert her opinions that he disagree with. Freedom of speech is given to individuals who want to express their opinions and shouldn’t be persecuted for their opinions. A wise man would accept that his wife has a mind of her own even if he doesn’t agree with her opinions; he should respect her as his wife not to belittle her with superior attitude. How can a husband expect his wife to respect him if he doesn’t respect her? How rude! You speak about obedience as if a woman is your child. According to a religious verse, to spare the rod, spoil the child. In many countries, a child can’t consent to marriage therefore in those countries the verse isn’t applicable. There are many families today that do not practice the standard family structure and are in happy relationships. A weak man is immature, lack experience, clueless, and small minded. A man that beats his wife into submission and disregards her feelings as if she is irrelevant is a weak man in my book. You say that a man should teach his wife and assert authority but according to a religious verse, a man that doesn’t perform according to the word must be won over or turn by his wife’s actions. According to you, young, old, wild, and free lady fit for a submissive wife. How do you explain men that are marrying docile women that are submissive and whorish? A submissive woman does not mean she is pure, faithful, honorable, loving, and respectful. Have you ever heard of a submissive LovePeddler? Guess what, men around the world are marring these submissive whores and trying to make a housewife out of them. I am not saying a LovePeddler can’t reform but you judged women that have the sense to express their opinions maturity and respectfully. In conclusion, I encourage my opponent to understand what he is consuming and know that marriage is indeed for the mature minds but it is about a man and woman working together as a partner with clear understanding that a man is expected to take lead with support of his woman. Leadership is guiding and mentoring but it is not a right to assert authority. A judge is given right to sentence a guilty party, a president have right to introduce laws, a teacher has the right to fail a student, and a pastor have the right not to marry an immature couple. The majority in various societies gave these rights; a self-proclaimed right isn’t the same as a given right. A right is a privilege and reward; it can be taken within a blink of an eye. A right isn’t ironclad or forever. It is given in respects to it source but not to be taken advantage of or misuse. What good is being a superior man if you die alone? Thank you. |
| Romance › Re: Is It Proper To Disclose Your Earnings To Your Wife? by MrsChima(f): 8:38pm On Oct 14, 2012 |
dabossman:Nothing like working and getting paid LEGALLY. I like being able to FILE INCOME TAX YEARLY. I don't have to scam or sell  How is it working for you though?  |
| Romance › Re: Is It Proper To Disclose Your Earnings To Your Wife? by MrsChima(f): 8:35pm On Oct 14, 2012 |
truthisbitter: LWKMD! Mrs. Chima is now claiming to be employed. Since when has being on welfare become a job?LMAO@me on Welfare with a Nigerian husband. Aha..a jealous manbitch with another username. Too bad Nigeria doesn't offer Welfare..then the amount of scamming and crying Foreign chicks will decrease. Send me your account number...I would send you rice money for the children. |
| Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 3:05pm On Oct 14, 2012 |
MRbrownJAY: ^^^^ scared? naaaaah....... but simply concerned that such an easy debate for the contributing team to win, is slowly falling out of our hands.Buahahhahahhahaha. Dream big boo. |
| Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 2:52pm On Oct 14, 2012 |
dont8: Wasn't around since yesterday to counter your arguments,Yeah, yeah! You shot your own foot using biblical references that I found contradicted your arguments. Kandikane warned using religious books as a source of your opinion. 1 Like |
| Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 2:47pm On Oct 14, 2012 |
MRbrownJAY: dear moderator and judges, i come before you to plead for the trailing countributing team. .....our team started with only 4 debaters while the opposing one had 6, therefore we were heavily outnumbered and outgunned. I therefore request to be paired with the strongest debater on the opposing team.......... it will be an injustice to the supporting team not to pair MBJ with Uj-Sizzle (no offense to my team mate Ayobase).Scared?  It is a matter of opinion but whatever. |
| Romance › Re: Reasons Black Guys Prefer White Girls!!!!! by MrsChima(f): 9:08am On Oct 14, 2012 |
roymary: Mrs Chima is as single as Number 1. Husband my yannsh ...Still bitter huh? Muaaah. |
| Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 3:00am On Oct 14, 2012 |
[quote author=Mynd_44]I don't know but I love composure. She knew the moderator was killz byte she chose to use the term "moderator" cos thats what he is doing. When will we learn to do thing right. Mrs Chima, nice[/quote]Thanks suga. |
| Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 2:59am On Oct 14, 2012 |
[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Mrs. Chima 10/10 Never knew she was this eloquent. Sorry that I missed it. Can I @least reply someone's post I copied and pasted my counter argument on Facebook and the men mad as hell. Of course I got men AND few women calling me feminist even after I illustrated the real definition of feminism. SMH. I had to put my best toe forward for this best otherwise I would have continue to let you all believe all of Americans are trailer park dweller, preschool dropouts, government cheese snacking, and welfare beggars. However, thanks! |
| Romance › Re: Is It Proper To Disclose Your Earnings To Your Wife? by MrsChima(f): 9:03pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
queensmith: Only backwards thinking leads to questions like these.One of the several reasons some marriages struggles is because of finances. You get with someone who is not a sensible shopper like you have mentioned and every time bills need to be paid....spouse 1 have spent it! During my courtship/engagement, personal things were discussed and finances was one of them. We both shared opinions of how money should be disbursed, who were responsible for the money, our approaches to money, theories about money, and if one is not working what should be expected etc. We both came up with a plan and agreed on a, b, c, and d. In my opinion, married couples who hold jobs should have a joint account and each should be responsible for 50 percent of the bills. If one person is the breadwinner, a joint account should still be in effect because lack of employment isn't a disease. But it is surprising to see some men will hide their finances even from their wives and one excuse was to keep a wife from being too demanding.  |
| Romance › Re: Is It Proper To Disclose Your Earnings To Your Wife? by MrsChima(f): 8:54pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
NEROSKY: you mean gainfully or just[b] employed[/b]You wish you can say that for yourself huh? |
| Romance › Re: Do You Carry A Picture Of Your Partner/spouse? by MrsChima(f): 5:56pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
How can I get my worwor husband photo off my celly and lappie? He is scaring my things! !! |
| Romance › Re: Reasons Black Guys Prefer White Girls!!!!! by MrsChima(f): 4:11pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
ikekings:Bring it on.....you wont last long. |
| Romance › Re: Reasons Black Guys Prefer White Girls!!!!! by MrsChima(f): 4:03pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
[quote author=Mynd_44]^^ I guess that's right[/quote]Always. |
| Romance › Re: Reasons Black Guys Prefer White Girls!!!!! by MrsChima(f): 4:02pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
ikekings: Ahhh... This same old line “my husband”... I think i will pass...Good boy..you are in the lesser league. |
| Romance › Re: Reasons Black Guys Prefer White Girls!!!!! by MrsChima(f): 3:59pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
[quote author=Mynd_44]How am I supposed to judge people by their names? I guess that makes you a mumu then[/quote]Yeah a mumu that knew she was a white girl that she also confirmed! Muuuah. |
| Romance › Re: Bathing Together As Couples by MrsChima(f): 3:55pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
Vomits. |
| Romance › Re: Is It Proper To Disclose Your Earnings To Your Wife? by MrsChima(f): 3:53pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
dabossman: How are you sure Mrs. Chima doesn't have a daily roster that details what house chores her husband MUST do everyday?Are you confusing me with your mammy again Haters always show themselves. |
| Romance › Re: Married Couples Vs Dating Couples by MrsChima(f): 3:49pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
okpara ugo: I hear you. You took advantage of a celibate man. Okay.By marrying him?? You damn right! Not one regret here buddy! |
| Romance › Re: Is It Proper To Disclose Your Earnings To Your Wife? by MrsChima(f): 3:26pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
greall1: I dey laugh.  |
| Romance › Re: Reasons Black Guys Prefer White Girls!!!!! by MrsChima(f): 3:23pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
ikekings: Are you black? Cos if you are, i know you really want me...I am not white. No...I want my husband Chima. |
| Romance › Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 2:33pm On Oct 13, 2012 |
Sexkillz Why is my mrs..chima account banned |
unfortunately again, I wont be around till evening time.
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