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andrewza: And the grpine flys with american engiens, you chinnes opvs will use german engiens, the finish AMV drives with sweddish engiens. Does this change the place where the concepte came up. I mean technacly the Cheata is south african it may use israle frames and french engiens but the concept and desghine are south african.

Thanks Andrew, my point exactly. This man "Agaugust" is nagging like a baby wishing for a mummy's breast milk. He is beaten and lost with shame and disgrace. I quess this time around, his whole wardrobe is hanging on marula tree. Lol!!!

A poor Nigerian is suffering from a mind of a rat and reasoning like a female prosecutor. That's a poor performance.

agaugust: dont let me collect your lawyers wig and gown to hang on top of mango tree beside @andrewza's navy uniform

That will surely be the true representation of the ideals for which I am prepared to die for. Let the whole subscribers judge as to who will finally be succumbed to be hanged on the mango tree. Bring it on brother!!!

agaugust: is soweto full of chronic liars ? that aircraft is not a jet engined aircraft, it is turbo-propeller and the engine is imported from Canada, see your own weblink saying it "Powerplant: 1 × Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-66 turboprop, 710 kW (950 shp)"

its not a big difference from nigerian made air beetle aircraft. please tell another story that can sell in newspaper.

stop posting oryx and cheetah as south african products, oryx is upgraded french built puma helicopter, cheetah is french built mirage 2000 jet, can you stop stealing glory of France and giving it to south africa ? south africans here hate france so much but yet France is a major backbone of south african military equipment.

south africa has NOT produced ant jet engine aircraft, @snydergp told same lie here and we proved him wrong....and that your flying 'bed bug' is still in prototype stage.

Your argument does not hold any water because the patent rights are in the hands of South Africans. Even before the court of law, your case will be dismissed because of the lack of substance in all of your assertions which are driven and motivated by envy and jealousy . I have told you before, that the writing is already on the wall that South Africa is the manufacturer of that pieces of technology, irrespective of whether the engine parts come from heaven or hell. Thus South Africa is the only country that can claim intellectual rights to property with respect to manufacturing of all the above mentioned list. It is however in this regard that your case will prove futile.

Augustine Again: which honour sir ? your fake weblink above cannot be opened, it does not exist. south africa nhas not built any jet engined aircraft, even your DENEL Rooivalk helicopter gunship you have been boasting of since page 1 of this thread, is flying with an imported engine built in France....south africa only welded metals together to build the helicopter body and electronics.

will your helicopter fly without the engine made in France and sold to you ? please manufacture another lie sir, this one is a penalty shot played over the bar, no goal

Check your browser: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_High_Performance_Reconnaissance_Light_Aircraft

For your information, it is very apparent to me that your purported knowledge about the history of South Africa is of very limited range. SA during the epoch of apartheid was under arms embargo and heavy sanctions from the UN and however, could not import anything not even a pistol. Weapon programmes in SA started during that era of darkness when the state could not procure arms from any country, thus prompted them to develop their own weaponry using weapons that they already had, including helicopters and fighter jets as a model.

China does the same by copying weapon systems of other countries, but nobody would ever make noise that such weaponry do no belong to China. Hence, South Africa did the same and your judgement is thence useless because the writing is already on the wall that Cheetah, Oryx and Rooivalk are products of SA. Was there anything wrong when SA used french flying machine as a model? Unfortunately, the answer is a BIG NO. France also got the design from somewhere, they did not just wake up and find the design already prepared for them. In that regard, we should therefore humble ourselves before the Wright brothers who first invented the flying machine.

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all4naija: You are a sad individual. What makes you want to unsubscribe from the forum is because people didn't agree with your idea. Please, stop acting like a child and prove your country capabilities with evidences. It is clear you can't defend your country in any capacity whatsoever. PERIOD! Don't act like a looser!

To make you happy, let us agree that I am a loser and bring all this topic to an end. There's always Alfa and omega of everything, thence I guess this is the omega. With regard to my unsubscription, heaven knows that the only thing that kept me here was this topic, period. I will miss you. I have to go.

all4naija: What an excuse indeed. Your military force claimed to have murdered 500 people made up of children in their own country indiscriminately yet you see your 13 dead soldiers lives to be more important in this regard. How you come to such a conclusion is still challenging to me, without having any remorse 'bout those innocent children recruited under duress. That alone is very wrong of you. Your soldiers given up their uniform, other equipment and taking safety in the camp of the French peace keeping force is another evidence they are not well trained to handle such situation and fighting in rebel prone regions.

It is time you give up your argument on Boko Haram, it is no longer making any sense at all in this thread. My only advice to you would be to start posting positive information of your military hardware as that is the only thing SA can show when it comes to militarization.

I still think you need to shun this very idea of making terrorism look appealing in spite of the gruesome scenes terrors have created around the world. Mind you, it is not required of you to defend them in any way because they don't give a hoot about what you say. If given the opportunity they will terminate your very life. You are just trolling with many of your comments for your support for the Boko Haram and its ideology in Nigeria.

It seems as if you didn't read my post above, I have done what I have done on purpose, that is, to prove to you that it is very irritating to draw wrong conclusions about something that happened in your absence. You and I were not there when the war erupted between the Seleka and RSA combatants and same as when BOKO HARAM exchanged bullets with JFT, right. By the way let us leave sleeping dogs to lie.

Capnd143: Ok . . Gud ! Its better to stop namecalling and insulting the dead and concentrate of the big question we have been arguing for ages "WHO HAS THE STRONGEST MILITARY IN AFRICA".
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@agaugaust,msuaza,synergyp,souldust,sheyie2007,thiza,GENERAL_ZA. . . etc i think we should request a military or defense section in nairaland! What do think?

I fully concur and finally I unsubscribe indefinitely from Nairaland. I will miss you all.

souldust: i absolve you of your sins inominie patris et filio et spiritus sanctum
go and stop being a pesky goblin
Also, i greet you the rosicrucian way: i wish you peace profound!

Thanx bro, am finally resting my case. Afterall it was a very interesting topic. It could have not come to this far if there were no South Africans around to debate. That is what patriotism means, every person would defend their country, even to the last drop of their blood, irrespective of whether your country is small or poor, a patron would always stand by his country.

Afterall, I would like to apologise to everybody that I could have hurt emotionally throughout this entire journey. You guys were so very bold, it shows the kind of vigor and energy that we as Africans have when it comes to this platform. I have to accept that there were moments were I could not restrain myself at all, at times my blood was boiling and felt like I could just get inside my monitor (screen) and make some sense into whoever was undermining us, LOL!!!. I understand that you felt the same about me, hence the reason I bring all this to you. I thank you.

patriot3: Look, you idiot, SELEKA are not terrorists, and your soldiers were fighting them.
Your soldiers lost and some of them got killed in the process.
Nobody is rejoicing your soldiers got killed, and nobody is rejoicing seleka rebels got killed.
But that provided insites in the big propaganda of your armed forces.
You on the other hand you just turned terrorist sympathizer spreading boko haram propaganda.
You have nothing to do on this forum since you understand nothing of military affairs and nothing of what we are discussing here.
Why don't you just f.uck the hell out !

Lol!!! I have just only wanted to prove to you that, it is very disingenuous to adopt stupid modus operandi best attributed to Aguagust when serious issues are discussed on the forum, it makes people go mad, hence I do not blame you for the use of derogatory "F" word. It is very unwise to taunt people when they try to reflect on serious issues affecting their various countries. We as South Africans we have never advocated to the massacre of Marikana, the killing of innocent foreigners during xenophobic attacks, the ongoing brutality in SA, the killing of innocent white farmers in their farms, etc.

It is however irritating when some s.tupid use all this evidence to taunt citizens of particular country, because there is no any country that is perfect in dealing with the affairs of its citizens. Every country has its own infirmity and strength, thence it is however uncalled for when any persons make fun of any country's downfalls or saga. That reaction from my fellow African brother is what I have long been expecting.

PATRIOT 3 no hard feeling bro!!

I accept that was very s.tupid of me and my intention is clearly reflected above

Forgive me, May the grace of God be with you!!!

patriot3: I can explain: the guy loves terrorists and wants to help them with propaganda.
in previous posts he called them heroes and revolutionaries.
He says they should be given the leadership of the north.

I have never called BOKO HARAM heroes. Anyone who kills innocent citizens is a coward as much as the soldiers who killed innocent citizens. I don't advocate killing of the innocent.

agaugust: .


I realized that @msauza has no valuable comment to post again, so he begins to make fun and support for B.ooko H.raam that K.illed Pastors, Prophets and Christian worshippers on the altar of God.


He does not know he is attracting curses from millions of Nigerian church ministers of God and prayer warriors on himself and his family. Dangerous spiritual game with deadly repercussions.

if were you, i will find something else to make fun of, not the shedding of the blood of God's ministers and worshippers.

i really pity you.


Msausa may God almighty avenge the blood of every pastors, prophets and church members K.illed by B.ooko H.araam on your head and the head of all your generations as you continue to make any post on this topic, Amen !

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What difference does it make when you equally rejoiced the death of 13 SA soldiers who probably were fathers and husbands to their families. You lost and now you take refuge on some spiritual recourse. I am as well a Christian and my God will protect me.

patriot3: I can explain: the guy loves terrorists and wants to help them with propaganda.
in previous posts he called them heroes and revolutionaries.
He says they should be given the leadership of the north.

Your fellow countrymen praised the Seleka rebels for the killing of 13 SA soldiers, so why can't you see anything wrong in them.

THE ARMY THAT ALWAYS CLAIM EASY VICTORIES ON DEFENCELESS CITIZENS HAS LOST THEIR CASE

Obasanjo should face trial for Odi massacre - CPC

2013-03-05 00:35:23

THE Congress for Progressive Change on Monday called for the trial of former President Olusegun Obasanjo for genocide over the 1999 invasion of Odi community in Bayelsa State.

Spokesman for the CPC, Rotimi Fashakin, said, sequel to the court description of the 1999 attack on Odi by Nigerian soldiers as genocide, Obasanjo should be arrested and tried before the International Criminal Court.

The CPC catalogued two instances of mistreatment of two communities in the country and concluded that Obasanjo should be tried for the Odi massacre because he "harboured sadistic and malevolent intent" in dealing with the two communities.

A Federal High Court presided over by Justice Lambo Akanbi on February 19, 2013 had ordered the Federal Government to pay N37.6 bn as compensation to the people of Odi over the invasion of their community by armed soldiers during the Obasanjo administration.

However the CPC said the payment of compensation as ordered by the court was inadequate adding that the ex-President should be tried for genocide.

Soldiers on the order of the Obasanjo government invaded Odi on November 20, 1999 and destroyed the community over the killing of 10 policemen by a gang involved in the Niger Delta unrest of the period.

The party's statement reads, "On 20th November, 1999, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, then President of Nigeria, authorised the invasion and subsequent destruction of Odi community in Bayelsa State by the soldiers of the Nigerian Army.

"After more than 12 years of delayed justice, the Nigerian High Court Judge, Justice Lambo Akanbi, had described the invasion as genocidal, reckless, brutish and gross violation of the rights of the victims to life and ownership of property.

"In addition, the learned Judge ordered the Federal Government of Nigeria to pay N37.6bn as compensation to the victims.

"In 2001, the same PDP-led regime of Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, ordered the invasion of Zaki-Biam, a community in Benue State, by soldiers with the same malevolent intent as the Odi invasion.

"Indeed, in a decided case in July 2007, the Federal Government was ordered to pay N4.8 bn as compensation to the victims.

"Undoubtedly, it is clear from these two decided cases that Obasanjo harboured sadistic and malevolent intent in dealing with the two Nigerian communities.

"In the judgment on the class suit No.FHC/PH/CP/11/2000 on the Odi invasion, Justice Lambo Akanbi ruled that the attack on the people of Odi was genocidal, reckless, brutish and a gross violation of the rights of the victims to life and ownership of property.

"In Article 5(1a) of the statute of the International Criminal Court, genocide is a crime under the jurisdictional purview of the Court."

 Fashakin went further to explain that Article 6 (a-c) of the same statute explains that "For the purpose of this Statute, 'genocide' means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such (a) killing members of the group; (b) causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group."

He said that at the time of these infractions, the Nigerian State was not in a state of war with these communities and that the action typified the impunity and excessive show of executive recklessness that he alleged the PDP-led regimes had unleashed on the nation in 13 years.

Fashakin said his party was of the opinion that no amount of monetary compensation could fully assuage the sense of colossal loss of these communities, whose rights to life, he said, were indecently trampled upon by the Obasanjo regime.

He said, "It is equally our belief that, with the establishment of the intent and content of the invasion as genocidal, the course of Justice is best served if the head of the government at the material time, that is, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, is formally arraigned before the International Criminal Court for the crime of genocide.

"The wider implication of the arraignment shall be the institution of constitutional order and decency among the ruling elite so that the inalienable rights of the people to personal liberty and justice shall remain sacrosanct."

Obasanjo was not available for reaction on Monday.

Efforts to reach the ex-President through his Chief of Staff, Victor Durodola, were not fruitful. At the first contact, Durodola told one of our correspondents on the phone to call back, promising to reach Obasanjo to react.

When our correspondent called Durodola again at 10:20pm, he said, "Baba is at home but he has not responded to my text to him on the subject. May be he has slept but I am sure he will respond by the time he sees the text."

In 2007 the Nigerian Army publicly apologised for killing over 100 innocent citizen without paying compensation to the families of the victims. The history repeated itself, the most revered army in Africa take trophies in killing innocent citizens and still expect to be treated as the best in Africa, nonsense!!!. Over my dead body.

Army apologises for killings

2007-11-07 09:23

Abuja - The Nigerian Army publicly apologised on Tuesday to the people of Benue state in north central Nigeria for the killing of its citizens in the Zaki Biam area by soldiers in 2001.

Army chief of staff Lieutenant-General Luka Yusuf, tendered the apology in Makurdi, the state capital, at the annual conference of the army.

The army massacred about 100 people in Zaki Biam in 2001 to avenge the killing of 19 troops deployed to restore peace in the area after ethnic violence.

Many properties, including the house of the former army chief of staff retired General Victor Malu, was burnt in the disturbance.

Yusuf said the killings happened while the army was executing its constitutional responsibility.

He urged the people of Benue state not to regard the army as an enemy, "but an institution that is committed to unity and peaceful co-existence in Nigeria".

Seven soldiers died in Darfur

He noted that the army had lost men in active service at home and in international peacekeeping operations.

"Although various commendations were won, they were not without casualties on our part," he said.

"The killing of seven Nigerian soldiers in Darfur, though devastating, has only strengthened our resolve to the restoration of peace in those troubled spots," he said.

Gabriel Suswam, governor of Benue state, accepted the apology on behalf of his people.

Suswam implored the Nigerian government to rehabilitate victims of the disturbance to remove the scars of the incident. Sapa-dpa

SAPA

Henry120: Msuaza, you are beginning to sound like a stack illiterate. Why are you spewing so much stup*idity now, I used to think you are a bit reasonable.

The north of nigeria is predominantly muslim, it is not all muslim. Do you not understand english. There are millions of Christian northerners. Kaduna state in the core north of nigeria has a 55% Christian population. Borno state of which maiduiguiri is the capital, also has a significant indigenous christain population.

North central nigeria is predominantly Christian, the only part of nigeria that has no indigenous christain population is north-west nigeria.

Now let me ask you, where then will all this indigenous Christians go to, if islamic law becomes the norm.


How can you be spewing this much gibberish. Do you even think before you type.

Boko haram is a terrorist group, the nigerian army would hunt them down like rats and kill every one of them.

The BOKO boys are legitimate citizens of Nigeria. They deserve citizenship in term of which all citizens will enjoy equal rights, freedoms, privileges and benefits. The US as a federation has 51 independent state which are free to decide their own fate and state of affairs. For instance, Some of those states have even abolished death penalty, while others have retained it. However, In Nigeria the situation has turned more into a Christian who does not want to live under sharia and a Muslim who does likewise in opposite. This situation will however lead to an endemic conflict which will not end anytime soon. Don't you think that they deserve to rule some few states, especially those where their religion is practised predominantly by the majority.

This morning various media and various countries at large recommended that Goodluck Jonathan must face the ICC in Netherlands.

ACN blames Baga massacre on FG, calls for ICC’s intervention

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By Olasunkanmi Akoni

LAGOS — Action Congress of Nigeria, ACN, yesterday, blamed President Goodluck Jonathan for the killing of 185 people, mostly women and children, in Baga, Borno State, saying the act constituted crimes against humanity. The party urged the International Criminal Court, ICC, to get involved.

ACN said President Jonathan should be held accountable for failing to distinguish between support for security agencies battling the insurgency in the north and the incitement of the same forces against civilians caught in the cross fire.

ACN, in a statement, called on the National Assembly to investigate how troops from foreign countries became part of the Joint Task Force, JTF, now battling the insurgency in northern Nigeria.

In the statement by its National Publicity Secretary, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, ACN said the Baga massacre was far beyond the justifiable call for a judicial commission, arguing that it was time for leaders under whose watch the killings were perpetrated be held to account.

According to ACN, those engaged in the killings, including the Boko Haram sect must not get away with the crimes.

ACN said: ‘’Enough is enough. Even in countries at war, innocent citizens are not being daily mowed to death either by insurgents or state forces, as we are experiencing in Nigeria.

“It is clear that the Nigerian government is either unwilling or unable to prosecute these crimes, despite the deceptive assurances by those at the helm, hence the ICC must immediately beam its search-light on the situation in Nigeria.”

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/04/acn-blames-baga-massacre-on-fg-calls-for-iccs-intervention/

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[size=16pt] Evil reigns in South Africa. Sorrow, tears, and blood ! [/size]

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..[/quote]It had never happened in South Africa where over 200 civilians were massacred in one day. Even during the dark days of apartheid, it never happened. Xenophobic attacks were never unleashed by the government, those were the attacks from ordinary citizens to foreigners suspected of foul playing, that's all. How do you justify killing of civilian by soldiers on a government supported mission?

This comes from the United Nations website, they confirmed the deaths and that is the case am afraid. I rest my case.

22 April 2013 – Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has voiced shock and sadness today at reports of high numbers of civilians killed in Nigeria’s Borno State following armed clashes there between Government forces and an extremist group.

Over the weekend, fighting between Nigeria’s military and Islamic extremists caused the deaths of at least 185 people in the northeastern town of Baga, media sources have reported.

“The Secretary-General reiterates his firm conviction that no objective sought can justify this resort to violence,” Mr. Ban’s spokesperson said in a statement.

“He expresses his condolences to the bereaved families and calls on all extremist groups to cease their attacks.”

Violence fuelled by sectarian motives is not uncommon in Nigeria where the Islamist group, Boko Haram, has frequently resorted to targeting civilians. Last year, over 100 people were killed when the radical group attacked churches in Kaduna State, drawing widespread condemnation from the UN.

Mr. Ban “underscores the need for all concerned to full respect human rights and safeguard the lives of civilians,” the Secretary-General’s statement added.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=44722

This comes from the United Nations website, they confirmed the deaths and that is the case am afraid. I rest my case.

22 April 2013 – Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has voiced shock and sadness today at reports of high numbers of civilians killed in Nigeria’s Borno State following armed clashes there between Government forces and an extremist group.

Over the weekend, fighting between Nigeria’s military and Islamic extremists caused the deaths of at least 185 people in the northeastern town of Baga, media sources have reported.

“The Secretary-General reiterates his firm conviction that no objective sought can justify this resort to violence,” Mr. Ban’s spokesperson said in a statement.

“He expresses his condolences to the bereaved families and calls on all extremist groups to cease their attacks.”

Violence fuelled by sectarian motives is not uncommon in Nigeria where the Islamist group, Boko Haram, has frequently resorted to targeting civilians. Last year, over 100 people were killed when the radical group attacked churches in Kaduna State, drawing widespread condemnation from the UN.

Mr. Ban “underscores the need for all concerned to full respect human rights and safeguard the lives of civilians,” the Secretary-General’s statement added.

agaugust: south african police brutality. dragged men to death. beat men to death. strangle/choke men to death.

president jacob zuma must be taken to ICC relating to crimes of humanity


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Is good that you are speaking of our police and not military. Police everywhere in the world will never be perfect in dealing with civilians at any country.

http://m.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/civilians-slaughtered-in-clashes-involving-islamic-insurgents-and-the-military-in-nigeria/story-e6frg6so-1226625802842

THIS BOKO HARAM IS TROUBL0000000000!!

Scores killed in Nigeria violence

Last updated: 23 April 2013


Fighting between Boko Haram group and troops in country's northeast leaves at least 187 dead, Red Cross says.

Fighting between Nigeria's military and the armed group Boko Haram has left at least 187 people dead in a fishing community in Borno state in the country's northeast, the Red Cross has said.

Many of those killed in the fighting in Baga were civilians, the aid agency said on Monday.

"So far 187 dead have been buried, while 77 are under admission in hospitals," Red Cross spokesman Nwakpa O Nwakpa told AFP news agency.

The fighting, which began on Friday, sent people fleeing into the arid scrublands surrounding the community on Lake Chad.

Homes, businesses and vehicles were burned throughout the area.

Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan has ordered a "full-scale investigation into reports of high civilian casualties.'' a statement from his office said.

The assault marks a significant escalation in a long-running insurgency in the predominantly Muslim north, where Boko Haram has been blamed for scores of attacks since 2009.

Boko Haram, which means "Western education is forbidden" in the Hausa language of Nigeria's north, has said it wants its imprisoned members freed and Nigeria to adopt strict Islamic law.

UN condemnation

UN chief Ban Ki-moon was "shocked" by the high toll and the "homes destroyed, as a result of violence between military forces and an extremist group" around Baga, his spokesman Martin Nesirky said.

Ban called on "all extremist groups to cease their attacks".

Brigadier General Austin Edokpaye said the Boko Haram fighters used heavy machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades in the assault, which reportedly began after soldiers surrounded a mosque they believed housed members of the group.

Edokpaye said they used civilians as human shields during the fighting, implying that soldiers opened fire in neighbourhoods where they knew civilians lived.

"When we reinforced and returned to the scene the terrorists came out with heavy firepower, including [rocket-propelled grenades], which usually has a conflagration effect," the general said.

However, local residents said soldiers purposefully lit fires in neighbourhoods where they knew civilians were hiding.

'Picking corpses'

Leading domestic and international rights groups, including Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, have accused Nigerian soldiers of massive abuses in operations against Boko Haram, including summary executions.

Such allegations have been denied.

On Sunday afternoon, the burned bodies of cattle and goats still filled the streets in Baga. Bullet holes marred burned buildings. Fearful residents of the town had begun packing to leave with their remaining family members before nightfall.

"Everyone has been in the bush since Friday night; we started returning back to town because the governor came to town today," grocer Bashir Isa said.

"To get food to eat in the town now is a problem because even the markets are burnt. We are still picking corpses of women and children in the bush and creeks."

The insurgency in Nigeria grew out of a 2009 riot led by Boko Haram members in Maiduguri, which ended in a military and police crackdown that killed around 700 people. The group's leader died in police custody in an apparent execution.

Shootings, suicide bombings and other attacks carried out by the group have killed at least 1,548 people before Friday's attack, according to an AP tally.

Fighters suspected to belong to Boko Haram also have been seen in northern Mali, where heavily armed rebels took power last year in the weeks following a military coup.

Analysts say Boko Haram may acquire weapons smuggled out of Libya following its recent civil war.

Despite the deployment of more soldiers and police to northern Nigeria, the nation's weak central government has been unable to stop the killings.

http://m.aljazeera.com/se/201342243923845311

Civilians Are Killed in Nigerian Battle

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: April 22, 2013

BAGA, Nigeria (AP) - Fighting between Nigeria's military and Islamic extremists killed at least 185 people in a fishing community in the nation's far northeast, officials said Sunday, an attack in which insurgents fired rocket-propelled grenades and soldiers sprayed machine-gun fire into neighborhoods filled with civilians.

The fighting in Baga began Friday and lasted for hours, sending people fleeing into the arid scrublands surrounding the community on Lake Chad. By Sunday, when government officials finally felt safe enough to see the destruction, homes, businesses and vehicles were burned throughout the area.

The assault marks a significant escalation in the long-running insurgency Nigeria faces in its predominantly Muslim north, with Boko Haram extremists mounting a coordinated assault on soldiers using military-grade weaponry.

Authorities had found and buried at least 185 bodies as of Sunday afternoon, said Lawan Kole, a local government official in Baga. Brig. Gen. Austin Edokpaye, who was also on the visit, did not dispute the figures.

"Everyone has been in the bush since Friday night," said Bashir Isa, a grocer. "To get food to eat in the town now is a problem because even the markets are burnt. We are still picking corpses of women and children in the bush and creeks."

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/04/22/world/africa/civilians-are-killed-in-nigerian-battle.xml

Henry120: Shut up.

1 soldier killed
30 insurgents killed
6 civilians killed

Lies, I saw it on BBC news this morning, over 200 civilians were killed. Do not try to hide brutality of your soldiers under the mat. Jonathan must be taken to ICC relating to crimes of humanity.

[b][/b]Where is justice for poor civilian? Should we perhaps say that's how the most reputable army in Africa should show its prowess. Real valiant do not kill women and children for an honour, they go men on men. That incident alone it makes you top the rankings of the best army in Africa. You deserve it.

In Nigeria, Clash With Militants Kills Scores

By ADAM NOSSITER
Published: April 23, 2013

DAKAR, Senegal - One of the deadliest clashes between Islamist insurgents and security forces in northern Nigeria has destroyed much of a fishing town on the shore of Lake Chad, killed more than 180 people and highlighted the brutal tactics of Nigerian soldiers in combating the nearly four-year uprising.

Almost 2,000 homes were burned in the exchange between militants of the Boko Haram group and the military on Friday, said Gov. Kashim Shettima of Borno State, where the forces clashed over four hours in the town, Baga. Some residents were killed in the fierce gun battle, and others died in a conflagration when their thatched-roof homes were set alight, Governor Shettima said Monday, having visited the town on Sunday after the fighting died down.

The cause of the fire was in dispute. The military said militants had set the homes on fire by using rocket-propelled grenades. Some residents, though, accused soldiers of starting the fires deliberately to root out the extremists.

Baga lies at the remote northeastern edge of Nigeria, a lightly governed area of high penetration by Boko Haram militants who are easily able to slip across borders into Chad and Cameroon. There is also a military presence in the town, and the clash between militants and soldiers may have been set off when Boko Haram attacked residents who were watching a soccer match on an open-air television, said an expert on the region, Kole Shettima, who is chairman of the Center for Democracy and Development, a research organization in the Nigerian capital, Abuja, and no relation to the governor.

Soldiers responded to the attack, Mr. Shettima said, and civilians in the town paid the price, as they often do in northern Nigeria. The soldiers "opened fire, ransacked houses, and killed who they killed," he said.

The governor agreed that the clash was a heavy one. "There was a very serious exchange of gunfire between the terrorists and the military," the governor said. "The terrorists used very sophisticated weaponry."

Witnesses in Baga said soldiers had gone on a rampage and shot civilians. Hundreds of residents fled into the surrounding bush, people in Baga said. Unusually, even the governor said the soldiers were partly to blame for the high death toll. Nigerian officials usually avoid blaming the military.

"Boko Haram and the military are both guilty," Governor Shettima said. "I don't want to entirely lay the blame on Boko Haram. They are both complicit in the crime. The duty of the military is to protect the lives and property of the people."

The Boko Haram militants "are everywhere," said the governor, whose state is the home base of the insurgency. The state capital, Maiduguri, is where the Boko Haram uprising against the Nigerian government began in the summer of 2009. "There is no place that is insulated from their presence," the governor said.

Brig. Gen. Austin Edokpaye, the local commander, laid the blame squarely on Boko Haram, saying the militants used civilians as human shields during the attack. The general said his men had been attacked at a mosque used by militants to store arms.

"It was around that mosque that our men were attacked, with several of them injured, and an officer killed," the general said. "When we reinforced and returned to the scene, the terrorists came out with heavy firepower," including rocket-propelled-grenade launchers.

Yahaya Ibrahim contributed reporting from Maiduguri, Nigeria.

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Sometimes it's important to win all these wars where there are no challenges!

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A lot of people here are advocates of anti-South African. I have never realised that SA has so much enemies of African origin. Could it be that SA is envied because of its popularity and progress made all over the world. That's a big issue that discourage me from partaking in any debate on this forum. One such element (Aguagust) does not like anything positive from SA and any positive reports are deemed and dismissed as lies (propaganda) which is tantamount to insinuate that there's nothing good that comes from that country. Being against SA will only make you sick, whether you love or loathe it, SA will prosper in military, social, economic and political arena. God loves South Africa.

agaugust: nothing special in new south African navy small boats, they are still far behind Nigerian navy in this area where Nigerian navy rules the world even better than American navy.

You are indeed suffering from a serious psychological condition that has resulted to your psychosis. You need to be institutionalised with immediate effect and receive therapeutic treatment. It is always the likes of you that the courts would always recommend such a treatment. Since when did Nigerian navy ruled the world better than the US blue water navy at any region? That substance you are smoking is really too strong for you my friend, it's hallucinogenic. One navy that cannot even stop pirates is now compared to the US navy? Fantastic indeed!!!

all4naija: The line on bold is uncalled after you have said he is childish. Well, the SA military is still overrated. That is a fact!

Who is that exactly overrating SA? I want that person. Well, in relation to the statement you've highlighted in bold above, I have noticed somehow that young boy's brain is under nourished, hence it needed some traditional Nigerian dish. Dish full of omega 3 fatty acids which are essential for the normal functioning of the brain. Its unfortunate he's not from SA, we would have taken him to dietician to prescribe nutritious diet full of seeds (sources of Omega3), Ginko Biloba (for intelligence) and high nutritious yoghurt which will help his skeletal growth.

agaugust:
stop making excuses, your south african military destiny does not favour victory, accept your fate and swallow your pride.

seleka CAR rebels defeated your south african army and ethiopian army becomes your newly promoted masters !

lucky you ! seleka rebel men would have taken over your wives and daughters if that battle has been fought inside johannesburg.


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Childish stunts, rank us the 20th if it suits you. Rankings do not fight for us, weapons do, why do we need to be troubled by how some mentally impaired teenager ranks us. I think now its a high time you go and eat cassava with some green leaves and dog meat to make you much bigger.

Msauza: That is where you are wrong, it's not the government who upload those videos on youtube. Anybody can upload those videos on youtube, particularly SA soldiers who capture all the footages with their cellphone while they are on training.

About the issue of CAR, our militants have not gone to CAR to fight their purpose was to train CAR soldiers as the government of CAR requested and did not even carry heavy weapons with them at the time, heaven knows those rebels are not our match to engage in war. I guess only few gripons and 3 gunships (Rooivalk) would have done the job. We are a much bigger country with better resources than Seleka rebel, should we have waged war against them, the whole of Africa would have been against us for advanced imperialism in that land. I have read that various media claiming that SA has left their military vehicles behind running for cover, that is not only untrue but seeks to drag the name of SA in the mud. There was no even a single vehicle of SA in CAR, all the vehicles that SA used in CAR belong to the government of CAR. Leaving of uniforms behind, happens all the time, even in peaceful deployment soldiers leave their torn and wornout uniform behind.

@ ALL4Naija, Surely you haven't read my post above. Believe it or not, that was what actually happened, we live in SA and thus we get the first hand information and not from secondary sources. We have parliament TV station to view all development of any issue in ours country, thank you.