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Capnd143: i dnt remeber saying we had 139 aircraft because we haue more than that! I said we paid 4 129 aircraft and 1 predator drone 4rm us, go to the budget and my ^post and verify bro! I aint posting giberish! And just 4get about defense budget stuf, becos even a lay man in Nigeria would knw that due to escalating boko haram issues we spend almost 10 more than the budget resulting in high budget deficit which you can confirm 4 urself.

Where is the evidence link us.

sheyie2007: Do you understand maths at all?

Let me do it for you 1$ = N160, therefore N348 divide by 160 gives $2.175 billion right.

sheyie2007: ANEKI.COM AINT UPDATED

I gave you the speech by your president, in his mouth he voted N348.91 billion for defence for the year 2013. That is way too low my friend and it will not even put you on the top list of biggest military spenders in Africa. Our defence budget (SA) trippled it for the year 2013. I know you hate it when I tell the truth, but that's the way it is. Sorry for exposing your lies.

agaugust: the white-man does not want nigeria to develop and compete with them. when america stopped nigeria from paying billions of dollars to north korea for ballistic missile technology transfer, the americans did not offer us any alternative, their policy says such weapons sholud not be proloiferated or spread all over the world. they alone want to be world champion.


a lot to do yes, the points you made are NOT barriers in any way to nigeria's military weapons manufacturing industrial growth. research funds can be increased overnight by nigeria, we have too much money sitting down in central band and foreign baks as reserve $50 billion....and nigerian oil ang gas will keep on flowing for the next over 200 years....


money is not our problem when we want to do something in nigeria. have you been to abuja city? you wont believe it is in black african country.

nigeria has no problem catching up with south africa after some years maybe between 7 to 15 years. the americana and europeans were doubting japan, south korea, and china many years ago, but now the whole world fears and respects china, south korea, and japan in the area of advanced technology

now japan has technology better than USA, they have defeated america in world market with products like toyota and honda.

have you visited seoul city of south korea? you wont believe it is an asian city, its more beautiful than america...and cleaner.

china alone produced its J-20 stealth jet fighter that britain could not produce alone, they used joint venture with america to produce F-35 stealth jet.

sorry andrewza, nigeria cannot be slowed down by your list of 'many rivers to cross', nigeria is a different kind of black people on the face of the earth, even the average black american graduate is not more intelligent than the average nigerian graduate...i have beaten both whites and black here in america when situation makes us to compete against each other.

That I don't believe my friend. It will take Nigeria 40-50years to reach to the level of development of SA. I know you hate it when a person tells the truth. Let us take a typical example, when ANC came to power in 1994, SA infrastructural development were so infragmented so that you could clearly see developments in white area only. Not that there were no any developments at all in black townships, some few developments were still noticed then such as building of free houses by local government through out the country. Tarred roads and sewage system were clearly noticed in soweto during the era of apartheid and Baragwanath Hospital was even then still in good condition.

Is been 20years now since the ANC has taken over, yet there is so much to be done and tell me how the hell will Nigeria ever achieve all that in 7-10years with a population of approximately 170 million. How will the government of Nigeria provide every household with clean running tap water, sewage system, 24hrs power supply and above it with free housing and grants to the poor. Will all that be a possibility in 7 years? Oh no, heaven knows that will be a long term dream that might not be realised in the current generation.

This argument will not even extend to infrastructure such as international standard road constructions, world class universities, well looked after sports and recreational facilities in townships, free basic education, health, social development and national student financial aid that can afford to loan prospective university students ( not academically deserving) finance to further their studies. This my friend takes a fortune.

Since, South Africans are technologically inclined, I don't think it will be a daunting task to expose those who lie to their teeth. Below is the Nigerian budget speech as delivered by Pres Jonathan;



Jonathan presents N4.92 trillion 2013 budget



October 10, 2012 | 1:49 pm

News

President Goodluck  Jonathan, today, presented a total expenditure of N4.92 trillion for the 2013  fiscal year before  a joint session of the National Assembly, in Abuja.

In the budget proposal, recurrent expenditure was put at  N2.41 trillion while N1.54 trillion will be spent on capital projects.

Some key allocations in the budget proposal include:

Works – N183.5 billion;

Power – N74.26 billion;

Education – N426.53 billion;

Health – N279.23 billion;

Defence – N348.91 billion;

Police – N319.65 billion;

Agriculture & Rural Development – N81.41 billion.

Read the  full budget speech:

2013 Budget Speech:  “Fiscal Consolidation with Inclusive Growth”

PROTOCOL

1.    It is my pleasure and honour to present the 2013 Federal Budget Proposal before this esteemed Joint Session of the National Assembly. I am particularly delighted to present this Proposal to you earlier in the year, and soon after the commemoration of our national independence, to signal our commitment to evolving a new Nigeria. This Proposal is the product of extensive consultations with key stakeholders and would further translate the Government’s development plans into concrete actions.

2.    When I presented the 2012 Budget, you will recall, I emphasized the fact that it would be “a stepping-stone to the transformation of our economy and country in our walk to economic freedom …”. I am glad to report that we have made progress in this regard. Today, in the face of critical resource constraints, the defining moment of our work is in actualizing our promises to Nigerians. We need to create a structured economy where everybody plays by the same rules, and contributes their fair bit. That is the Nigeria our heroes past craved for; that is the Nigeria we believe in; and that is the Nigeria we are building together.

GLOBAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS
3.    As we build this nation and walk the path of development, we must be mindful of the realities of our circumstances and those of the changing global economy. This Budget Proposal was therefore designed against the backdrop of global economic uncertainty. By the end of the second quarter of this year, the global economy was recovering but at a very slow pace. Growth in a number of major emerging market economies, has been lower than forecast. Overall, global growth is projected at 3.3% in 2012 and 3.6% in 2013.

4.    The uncertainty surrounding the global economy, which could have adverse effects on commodity prices, highlights the downside risks for our economy. The oil market is well known for its volatility. We recall the 2008 experience at the height of the global economic downturn when oil prices fell almost overnight from $147 per barrel to $38 per barrel. This threat of oil price volatility remains constant and underscores the need to rely on a robust and prudent methodology to estimate the benchmark price.




President Jonathan, Senate President David Mark and House Speaker Aminu Tambuwal during the budget presentation, Wednesday, in Abuja. Photo: State House.

5.    The global economic slowdown can also have far-reaching implications for the demand for our export commodities, given that the Euro zone and the USA account for over 50% of the nation’s crude oil exports. These global developments are also being transmitted to our economy through a dampening effect on foreign capital inflows and remittances by Diaspora Nigerians. Fellow Nigerians, these are uncertain times in the world economy, and my Administration is taking necessary steps to mitigate possible adverse effects of the global economic slowdown on Nigeria. I assure you that we are going to build up the necessary savings to protect the economy against a possible global recession or a slow recovery.

DEVELOPMENTS IN THE DOMESTIC ENVIRONMENT
6.    In spite of the foregoing, our economy has done relatively well. Over the past nine months, through a number of initiatives, we have created new jobs directly and supported many young entrepreneurs running SMEs to create jobs. Nigeria is looking to become more self-reliant again in food security, and we are increasing local content in our manufacturing processes and the oil and gas sector.

7.    As at the end of the second quarter, the economy recorded an impressive growth of 6.28% compared to 5.4% forecast for sub-Saharan Africa. It is gratifying to note that the non-oil sector remains the main driver of growth. There are also improvements in other macroeconomic indicators. Inflation has dropped from 12.9% in June 2012 to 11.7% in August 2012, and our goal is to reduce it further. Our foreign reserves now stand at US$41.6 billion – the highest it has been in over 2 years. We intend to continue with our programme of fiscal discipline and prudent monetary policy in order to continue to improve our country’s macroeconomic environment.

For a complete speech click below;

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/10/jonathan-presents-2013-budget/

Henry120: We have touched on this issue and proven by all accounts that you only propagate lies and mis information. Our defence budget made available by the minister of foreign affairs shows about 2.7 billion dollars for the armed forces, 1.3 billion dollars for intelligence (SSS and NIA).

Look through the last 3 pages and you'll see the actual defence budget posted.

Stop this selective tendency to information you exhibit here.

Source please.

Link us to your government gazzette, it will show on the budget speech

I am not going to write anything ever again, because when I write something am being accused and persecuted with telling lies. Below is the list of biggest military spenders in Africa, I hope you will find it in order.

http://danielberhane.com/2011/06/12/africa-top-25-military-spending-countries/

And now here is the latest;

http://www.aneki.com/rankafmilitary.html

Capnd143: Nigeria (Esco) - July 22, 2012 04:52 PM (GMT)
Nigeria 's Military Budget
Military Budget
QUOTE
Payment Plan
RU-2012-$96,000,000,2013-$511,600,000,2013-$288,000,000
USA-2012-$116,500,000 (Pending)
South African-2012-$80,000,000, 2013-$130,000,000 , 2013-$42,500,000
Ukraine-2012-$8,500,000
China-2012-$10,000,000, 2014-$945,000,000-2015-$931,472,000-2016-$931,472,000
UK-2013-$150,000,000
QUOTE
2012 Purchases
RU
(24) Dozor 600 UAV--$96,000,000 (Delivery scheduled for Q4 2013)
(15)-Mi-35M -$240,000,000 ( delivered by Q3 2013)
(6)-Ka-50N-$140,000,000 ( delivered by Q3 2013)
(100)-BTR-T APC-$40,000,000 (upgraded from Nigeria's T-55 stock) ( delivered by Q3 2013)
(300)-GAZ-2975 'Tigr' HMMMV:-$30,000,000 ( delivered by Q3 2013)
(77)-T-72BM-$61,600,000 (upgraded from Nigeria T-72 stock) ( upgrades will be completed by Q1 2013)
(2)-Mi-26T2-$36,000,000 (delivered in Q4 2013)
(4)-Ka-29TB-$48,000,000 (delivered in Q4 2013)
(3)-Ka-60/64-$36,000,000 (delivered in Q4 2013)
(1)-Il-76MF-$50,000,000 (delivered in Q4 2013)
(12)-Mi-17/Mi-8 (Variants: (10) Mi-17-1V and (2) Mi-17-1VA)-$108,000,000 (delivered in Q4 2013)
(100)-KAB-1500LG-Pr-E (Variants: (50) KAB-1500LG-F-E, (25) KAB-1500LG-OD-E, and (25) KAB-1500LG-Pr-E-$10,000,000 (delivered in Q4 2013)
USA
(1) MQ-9 Reaper UCAV (4-unit system)
(100) EGBU-12 Paveway II 500-lb-$116,500,000 (Delivery scheduled for Pending)
South African
(30) G6-52ER 155mm SPH-$210,000,000 (Delivery scheduled for Q3 2013, with the final units delivered by Q12015)
(25)-Rooikat 76-$55,000,000 (delivery by Q1 2013, with final deliveries in Q3)
Ukraine
(-BTR-4 APC-$8,500,000 (delivered by Q2 2013)
China
(5)-ZBD-97-$10,000,000 (4Q2013)
(33) ZBD-97s-(free vehicles for the purpose of training and maintenance)
(95) ZBD-97s-$195 million (45 ZBD-97 delivered 1Q2013) ( 50 vehicles delivered 1Q 2014)
(10) L-15 Advanced Jet Trainers-$150 million (can I be provided with a delivery date)
(24) JH-7A-$600 million (24 JH7A aircraft will be delivered 1Q 2014)
UK
(300)-ILAV Badger -$150,000,000-(Badger ILAV (200) 6x6 configuration and (100) 4×4) (Deliveries complete by first quarter of 2014)

Why do you temper with the Numbers? Oh desperation again. Give us a source, or do you want me to embarrass you by proving you wrong that those numbers have been tempered with.

agaugust: .................................E T H I O P I A............. versus ...........S O U T H - A F R I C A


even ordinary Ethiopian military will stand against South African military and will not be defeated, they will end the fight like iran-iraq war.
ethiopia has no ocean waters so the south african navy becomes useless in the battle because ethiopia is out of range of any south african navy warship if they manage to enter persian gulf, and they cannot shoot over the territory of etritrea, djibouti and somalia, all still too far away from ethiopian lands.



Ethiopian air force pilots are the best in africa and most experienced in modern jet vs jet air combat in this current generation, in year 2000 they used SU-27 jets against MIG 29 jets in real war against eritrea.

it is the most modern war ever in africa today with the best worlds weapons heavily used in that war from year 1998 to 2000

all the nice photo south african weapons and videos posted on this forum have not been used to K.ill any human being and most of the over-rated south african soldiers have not K.illed any enemy soldiers since they joined the army. Ethiopian armed forces will d.amage South african military until their boasting will stop for ever. the war will likely end in a draw, no winner.


the south african airforce 26 Grippens jets will face a powerful ethiopian air force of 8 SU-25 and 18 SU-27 jets with the more experienced ethiopian pilots.

ethiopian military is regularly tested in many wars and proved to be a bloody battlefield K.iiler force anytime anyday, the world respects them.

ethiopian army is the most experienced in africa at country vs country wars and no nation has ever defeated them form africa to arabia.

ethiopian army has 500 anti-aircraft missile launchers hand-held by infantry against enemy aircraft

ethiopia also have over 3,000 anti-tank missiles launched from their T-72 or T-62 tanks and some by infantry hand held against enemy armoured vehicles and tanks

both countries have about the same number of tanks. south africa has about 3 times more APC's. ethiopia has more helicopter gunships 18 against south african 11.

ethiopian army 1,200 heavy artillery guns
south african army 120 heavy artillery guns

ethiopian army 135,000 soldiers very experienced in recent modern combat against several other countries
south african army 30,000 soldiers with zero combat experience in recent times against any other country

all data is from same source : free internet wikipedia of both nations army and air force

ethiopia is a more powerful military than south africa especially going by the history of both nations in real war. south african military is just an over-rated force, egypt and algeria will defeat south africa. ethiopia and nigeria are equal in military power to south africa. simple truth.

Desperation indeed can influence people to talk wonder, just an utter excrete.

Henry120: @capnd143, that the navy 10 year plan, with the acquisition of 6 light frigates from china and india, the plan has already been set in motion.

49 warships
42 helicopters
3 submarines

You wish with what money are you going to buy all that. We all know that the government of NGR is poor beyond recognition. The government that cannot even build better roads and infrastructure, where will they get money? It is no secret that private citizens of Nigeria pocket way far bigger chunks of Naira than the government. The government remains poor, while many business people evade tax and there is no system in place to track those who offended and prosecute them.

agaugust:

very correct capnd143, i was just about to post same information above with photos and weblinks but you jump ahead of me by some hours. okay sir, i bow. so let me just reduce my own post to avoid repeating the same info for these south african's wea.k brains, they cannot understand any post that is long and complex because they are inferior specie of human being, not a match for an average nigerian man like us.

the india nigeria air defence project too has been posted by henry, it has started actually. india is joining nigeria to build the intergrated air defence for naigerian military to be interlocked with the israeli coastal air defence built for nigerian already. i will post the israeli weblink info

the problem now is that the south africans have boasted they will defeat america and israel, but they forgot that on page 70 t0 77 of this forum they all admitted that Egygt will defeat South africa, does it not sound like they have mental in.sanity in their coconut b.rains ?

What is it that you are drinking and we don't. Please just say the name I wanna try it too. We all know that Nigeria has a rich economy but the government is poor. THE GOVERMENT OF NIGERIA IS POOR and in fact private citizens have way far more deeper pockets than the government. It is not a secret that the government of Nigeria does not have that financial muscle. If it cannot build just a simple tarred road how will it do all that. We are not fools and we haven't attended schools under trees like most of you did. Don't think that we fancy your dirty overpopulated Nigeria, we know well that Nigeria is poor even though it performs well economically. The money in Nigeria is only meant to line pockets of some few citizens and at the end of the day government gets nothing. Many citizens and business people evade tax like nobody's business, stealing the most needed revenue to feed the poor.

agaugust: snydergp your comment above shows that the average south african man is a born liar who has no courage to accept defeat when he is defeated in a very clear, logical, intelligent arguement.

when america is under threat, it will break any international law to save the country, just like israel will do.

america broke international law, entered pakistan with soldiers and k.lled o.sama .bin la.den without permission from pakistan, we just violated pakistani sea-air-land territory and broke international geneva law to protect american interests. survival first, law is only second.

please i will not waste my precious time talking to F00LS from south africa like msauza and snydergp

My little boy will not even think for a wink to conclude that you are a fool, a disgrace to Nigeria at large. Where did you see that, where ballistics would just be catapulted from the distance as easy as that. My friend is easy say than done, I told you America will sweat down to their buttocks if they were to defeat us. Our force is not a walk over material, if you want to defeat us you must have worked your arithmetic well, irrespective of how big you are we will retaliate and fight back to the last drop of our blood. We have such a big reserve force and the numbers that you have are only there to fool the enemy. Our air defence system is not a pool where you will just come and sink all eight balls with just a single round. Our skies are not a football ground where you can just come and outshine us all to score an easy hospital goal. Our heavens that pass right above our territory are strongly protected such that when anything comes trouble will be cleared before it cause any trouble. Real Americans will not think like you foolishly did, its only Nigerians wannabe Americans will come with such outdated and unscientific theory.

[quote author=Henry120]My friend, shut the Fvck up. You keep making silly statements at every point.

The guy in the first photo can easily pass of for mr SA in a beauty contest[/quote

That guy is far from being handsome

sheyie2007: a thousand of nigerian soldiers with that so called wooden butt ak47 will bring SA to a stand still ..

Oh really!!! But what about this;

1 SA recce = 1000 NGR soldiers that is our ratio;

That is 1:1000

One more thing, you must also learn to deploy your military with all equipment, those guys they really struggled they did not have proper tents and their weapon looked greasy especially on the wooden butt of AK47. So it was difficult to even differentiate between a Nigerian and Congolese soldier. Our force when it deploys it carry along enough equipment, we sleep in weather heavens, the same ones that the US army are using when they are deployed and we use mobile showers as well. Those weather heaven are good I tell u, way far better than canvass tents.

sheyie2007: Those dudes look rugged not poor.. do you know the sort of training they go through? Even at the defense academy

Lol!!! In deployment there is no time for training. You all are there to work, but does not mean that you must forget completely about your personal hygiene. I wonder if they do inspection every morning on parade. When you are a soldier, you must keep your standard, shine all those boots and iron your uniform, talk less of washing it. You must shower everyday to look like a soldier. In deployment does not mean that there is no water.

Henry120: You are an Id.I.ot. A rating, gets a house, free health, free education and about 18 thousand dollars a year. You ask how he manages to cope? He would have enough to feed, gift for his wife and children, and still have money to save at the end of the month.

Still that is just a change. In SA with such a meagre salary you will suffer, especially if you are a family man. No wonder they look so poor, by the looks. I worked with few of them in DRC.

sheyie2007: Lol its 1 to 17, stop fooling yourself

Maybe our exchange rates are not the same because I have also tried it with the calculator of our local banks and the ABSA one corresponded with my calculations at 25.09. Other banks do not value Naira and I just get this message " not a trade currency" but I will just confirm it now when I go to the bank. Bureau de change is not the same, in Nigeria I might use my Rand for 17 Naira and in SA you might need 25 Nairas to buy one rand. The problem with this high fluctuations is that Naira is not a trade currency.

sheyie2007: If you convert it to rands, its small ..dummy

My foreign exchange calculator tells me at current the Rand cost 25 Naira to buy. Which means you will need 25 nairas to buy one rand.

Henry120: You are a fat st*upid goat!!! And your weak insignificant brain relies on BEE to get a job as a cleaner in SA.

Crack head retar.d.

Nigerian soldiers, ratings with only secondary school certificate receive 130-160k a month, a house, free health care for himself and his family, and free education for his kids at the military schools.

Oh!! With that small money and how does he manage to cope? Nah man that money is way too small.

agaugust: the south africans are becoming so mentally diminished that they now claim their navy frigates will sink american US Navy frigates ! pure in.sanity

no wonder these south africans have been boasting here that their military will defeat nigerian military, but now its more than that, their south african navy they say will sink america's best and most modern, and most advanced hi-tech warships !

south african military academy has produced the wrong type of soldiers. what a pity.

Oh! Hell no. This is an obsession, America this America that. Aguagust, let me remind you that America with all its power and influence once suffered an embarrassing defeat at the hands of Sadam Husaine using a simple SA technology. It does not mean that America with all its stealth warships will claim an easy victory against SA. Of course they will have some serious mathematics to solve before they can defeat us. Let me remind you that SA has a strong formidable special forces called the recce whose weapons are unknown. They are a force on their own independent from our armies and they have a good track record and probably the best in the continent. They fear nobody but God and were once ranked on the top five of the best special forces in the world. Make no mistake don't rule our recces out, they might surprise you.

America whose intelligence agencies could not even detect and sense when the danger was coming, proved to the whole world that no matter how big and powerful a country may be, it does have its own infirmities. That story of David and Goliath in the bible is not just a tale but reality. South Africa is a small nation and surely any country that exchanges fire with us, no matter how big it is, even if we lost, that country will have some serious casualty to account. When I was in the military, I was always taught and reminded that numbers in war do not matter, what matters is the efficiency of weapon, art of war, musketery and fitness and infact large numbers only bring confusion and disorganisation. Our soldiers are trained to operate on their own, especially our paratroopers, that is why we are not secretive about our army because it will be very difficult to assess our strength. Knowing about our hardware does not put you in a better position to defeat us.

solomon111: Sorry,the remaining length of years of SA's reign as Africa's largest economy is numbered.
The whole world including southafrica knows that.

It doesn't matter, you can take number one spot. I wish if that was tomorrow, what is important is GDP per capita. The only country I envy is Equatorial Guinea with a very high GDP per capita. We have learnt our lesson, it doesn't help to reign supreme yet many people live in devastating conditions and poverty. Look at us now we have a very high GDP than some European countries, yet we are still classified as developing country. The greater GDP does not determine the developmental status of one country. Conditions of living, that is, better life for all and infrastructure does.

By the way economists recently interpreted SA economic growth to climb to 6% next year when the SKA project kick starts and when the project is fully operational it could boost our growth to up to 8%. I will link you to that soon.

sheyie2007: How are you guys taking the horse meat scandal? E reach there?

What are you crazy, in SA we do not eat horses and goats. In butchery you only get pork, lamb and Beef I cannot even remember when was the last time I ever see a horse or a goat. I get to see them when am at the horse race course at Turfontein and so I don't get to visit to visit that place a lot.

snydergp: WTF so a useless civilian who's not even part of the armed forces claims he was responsible for the creation of nigerian navy seals.

You talk a hole lotta sh*t u think we are IDIOTS like the rest of these person nigerians who comment here really go Fvck a Seal for all I care first u were a nigerian then a american now a goverment official who practically kick started the process of the NAN's SF.

I call you a fraud and you never even work for any military consultancy

This makes me laugh, Nigerian Navy seal. Poor soldiers who cannot even be paid adequately and rely much on UN to get better salaries. A South African pensioner gets much better income than a Nigerian soldier.

Henry120: Hahaha, okay that's enough. The thing looks like a giant snake man, not appetising to me. No way man.

Good for you though.

Are you scared of the beef? Boerewors is now very popular in Europe, many Europeans (tourists) saw it here long time ago and thus taken the recipe with them to Europe. I was very surprised when I could see it on the menu of one of restaurants in London.

This are the kind of desserts we eat after our main meal.

http://i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/kitchen/2008_5_27-Desserts.jpg

Henry120: Okay.

However, I'd like to ask, the pap and sausage doesn't look like a lot to fill the tummy of a full grown man. Does it fill you up? if I eat that, I would still feel very empty.

Nope normally we do not eat that much because there is a lot to eat, we often eat fruits and yogurt, drink juice there n there before we have our meal or when the food is still cooking and thereafter we had our meal we then eat our desert.

I have just ate this one now, lol!!!

https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/909985387/braai_image_1__1_.jpg

This is our dry meat (Biltong) in the local language

http://www.cambrianmeats.co.nz/uploads/6/9/3/5/6935667/4137522_orig.jpg

http://www.biltongmakers.com/biltong-11.jpg

http://www.markblumberg.com/images/southafrica/gardenroute/biltongonrack.jpg

And now our snake has been dried instead of grilled.

http://www.biltongmakers.com/drywors-02.jpg

agaugust:
no wonder you all look ugly like jacob zuma ! lol

Lol!!! Does it mean that there are no ugly people in Nigeria? By the way why are you looking at Zuma with that eye, are you gay?

Henry120: Guy stop posting those photos, that thing looks like a giant DIC*K, tell me you don't eat that

Nah man this is just a mere sausage just like Russian and Viennas. This one is more savoury than other sausages because is made from pure beef and not soyas.

This is how is made;

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lvFM5Ki9GdE/TbWfpNmxOXI/AAAAAAAAAek/px08ooikpvo/Making%20boerewors_thumb.jpg?imgmax=800

sheyie2007: I ate pap during my visit in 2011..but my stomach couldn't hold it.. church!

Pap is a staple food of South Africa and is made from maze, we often change it with pasta, macaroni, spaghetti and noodles and mince. Rice is well our staple food.

Henry120: Msuaza, do you eat that? No please don't, don't eat it . I'm going to puke.

The 3rd photo looks good though.

This is called boerewors made from minced beef and sprinkled with some herbs and is very delicious, those on the side are fruit and veg salad.

http://www.biltongbox.com/shop/images/uploads/Borewors1.jpg

http://blog.topplaces.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/braai_sauce.jpg