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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7819761.stm

UK manufacturing output fell at its fastest pace since 1981 in November, official figures showed, underlining the fragile state of the economy.

Output fell 7.4% from a year earlier - the biggest drop since June 1981. On a monthly basis, the fall was 2.9%, the Office for National Statistics said.

The news is likely to reinforce expectations that policymakers need to do more to stave off a deep recession.

The Bank of England cut interest rates to 1.5% on Thursday, a 315-year low.

James Knightley, an economist at ING said that the UK economy could shrink by around 3% this year.

We are in a very painful recession

Robert Peston, BBC business editor


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"Industrial output has now fallen for nine straight months, which is the worst run of data since 1980, so the pressure for further stimulus will continue," he said.

Bad times

The weak figures hit the pound, which briefly fell against the euro and the dollar.

Paul Dales, UK economist at Capital Economics, said that manufacturing was likely to continue to plunge despite the weaker pound, which should make UK goods more competitive on international markets.

"It's not a good time to be in industry," he said.

Industrial production accounts for around a fifth of our economic output, says the BBC's business editor Robert Peston.

He said the figures confirmed that the UK was in a very painful recession.

This week, car manufacturer Nissan said it would cut around 1,200 jobs, a quarter of the workforce at its Sunderland plant, and china and glass group Waterford Wedgwood went into administration.

Data released at the same time showed that producer output prices were unchanged in December from November, although analysts had expected a fall.

Input prices fell 2% due to falling raw material costs.

Hello Moderator and Seun, I guess someone needs to be checked here (or rather be eternally banned).

There's total diversion from the main topic, and I guess the owner of this great site, Seun who happens to be an Edo man oopps sorry,  

@ outlookbabe,

I cant but agree with your comment!. Your analysis was exemplary. I just watched on the SKY news now that more that 5000jobs of different companies were lost between Monday to Thursday this week alone!. Even barclays have to let go of more than 400 IT professionals!.

Armageddon is here, I guess!

@DHTML,

Thanks for your response and I do hope you are back on time to finish it off.

@others,

Contributions are extremely welcome on my question.

Ta!

phew, Im back again and I have 2 questions. Let me explain where I am stuck:

I have a field in my table that i call date_created. It has the attribute of datetime.

Now, in my form, I request date to be entered in a particular text box, the value of which I intend to store in date_created field , but alas it wouldnt store. I dont know if you could get me out of the wood.

Another one is, since date could be entered in a variety of ways ( e.g 12th January,2008, 12-01-08,12-01-2008,12/01/2008, 2008-01-02 etc), how do I "force" the users to be able to key in the date using a particular pattern.

Thats all for now, waiting for answers pls

@DHTML & OMNI

Thanks. I can insert and retrieve records now using PHP to query mysql. I will post more question if I get stuck

echo "Thanks for your help";

@dhtml,

Thanks for your contribution, especially that site you just gave out. However, i just read your solution to my question but I thought your solution will change the password from being empty to something. You know I indicated that I just press ENTER key at the MYSQL console and this will take me to the MYSQL prompt. Does it mean that I MUST change this "null" or "empty website to some words b4 I could connect to MYSQL via PHP?.

My First Question :

I just installed WAMP. Nw the problem is , I do not know the default username and password that I can use to connect to MYSQL. I can open the MYSQL console, press enter when I get to the password, and I can start using SQL commands, but the problem is when I want to use php to query mysql. In the
mysql_connect command, I dont know what to put as username and password. I have used this command : mysql_connect("localhost","root","" or die("cannot connect"; but it is not connecting. Is there any SQL command I can issue at the MYSQL console that can tell me my username as well as password.

I hope my question is clear enough

@DHTML,

Pls come back to the classroom. I have been following all your threads on nairaland. I warm up to u affectionately. I added you to my yahoo messenger but I have not heard a wrod from you. I guess we need to either chat or talk.

Fire on , I beg

@yawatide,

Thanks for yur explanation. It makes whole lot of sense.

@ yawa-tide,

I am confused as to why you recommended PHP to the guy simply[b] because he's in Nigeria[/b]. I dont seem to get a good grasp of that statement.

At last, Nigeria has becpme a banana republic. It is sad and disgraceful. How many people will be willing to fight corruption now?. I'm not saying he is a saint, but he did his best.

Yaradua is a complete FAILURE!

Nice Pix.

In Naija they nickname 9ce "Saheed Osupa Hip hop" or "omo olope hip hop", Really funny when I heard

as a man-u fan, I see Inter milan as a BIG threat. Mourinho himself is enough threat. May the better side win

Personally, I think Gerrard is a great player that can win a game on his own (Champion League Fina : Liverpool vs AC milan readily comes to mind) and Ronaldo is too quick-feet and very impressive, but I feel looking at the whole picture, Baloon d'or 2008 winner is the better one.

I will appreciate an honest comparison between these 2 great players. I was having a discussion here with a friend and we seem to be maintaining different sides.

Who in your opinion is the better player and why ?.

please no beef of any player

UK too much for fun?

It's not all about certification, it is how sound you are about what you claim to be certified on. You need to know the practical well. I have seen people with certification using brain dumps to pass without knowing a jack. Besides, dont be master of all trades. Try and pick a career path and develop yourself in it. I hope this helps

None of the 3 contenders is fit to rule.

Nigeria at this point in time lacks a quality leader to take her out of the wood.

@ omo ibo

Pls which country do u live ?

Pls, who knows the exchange rate for pounds and dollars today at the black market?

Improve on you design and developing ability and skill

I feel we ve got to be more specific to help this lad and others who might be viewing this thread.

I guess looking at his website and telling him the specific area he needs to improve on will go a long way.

@sprumbaba,
Focus on your strenght and staff your weakness

@yawatide
Should you do it all? In an ideal world, no.

I guess both of you are actually saying the same thing, using different statements to describe it. Everything still points to division of labour, which I feel represent the larger view of the NL contributors on this thread.

@quadrillo
NB:Curiousity kills the Cat

all what u mention are necessary for a Web Designer not a Web master I believe you know the different.

Web Designer (primary school)

Web Developer (Secondary School)

Web Master (University)       

Incase u need to know am a web developer. and where do you belong. OGA GURU

Are you implying that you are a secondary school student, going by your definition above?. The way you responded to the thread depicts a bit of arrogance. I have read some of your contributions on Nairaland, but with this, I think you  make me lose a bit of respect for you. Asking this question does not mean that I am a novice. I guess I have been around for quite a while. I just want to know how others are handling it, in case I have been handling it badly. Skills spiced with humility is the best!.

Lets keep the contributions rolling in please

@quadrillo,

all what u mention are necessary for a Web Designer not a Web master

I 'm sorry but you didnt answer the questions. Are you implying that a webmaster is not expected to know any of those tools mentioned above??.
ps. Let try and forget these "class" stuff and be more pragmatic

@nuckecy

Your contribution is highly valued!

As a webmaster, are you expected to know all the technologies that revolve round web-site building (like Javascript, css, dhtml etc) or you are MAJORLY expected to do the hard-code that run things on the server while you give out the client-side stuff to others to do?

Just being curious

Please folks, I will like to know which one is really the "hotter" cake out of the two. I have seen a lot of people discussing php but very tiny few have shown interest in ASP.net. I will really like to know why . Thanks

@osisi

Menial jobs as a temporary solution is Ok.It's survival job.
If a person with a degree leaves Naija and comes here and for 3,4,5 ,8 years later, they're still changing diapers in a nursing home
Something is wrong
That's not right

Gbam!. I TOTALLY agree with u.

@busybody,

Oh you beat me to it. You echo what I was a bout to write

@Hesperus

There are exceptions in every society. I hope you listen to the pre-budget of allistair as well as opinions of pple in the dailies. Professionals in UK, not to even talk of the Odd-jobbers, are in for a real squeeze in this recession period.

No one is talking about recession in naija, as it has become ways of life there since 1904

That your uncle you refer to would have done better in a credit society, (remember that pple abroad live on credit). So, dont even compare pple in naija with abroad pple cos while pple in naija pay CASH for everything they own, pple abroad OWE what they own to some banks

@damiso

i know that it would be difficult to kickstart a business with £500

It's just an illustration just to show that people don't really need billions to kickstart their business in Naija

But come to think of it,i have never seen an authority in their chosen field doing menial jobs,

I can tell u there are loads and loads of people like that.

£500 ie 182X500=91,000

, aww so my darling pounds is 182 naira, thot it's 190 naira ni, who will stop the slide?, London bridge, oops, pounds sterling is falling down, falling down,

@barry o6,

I'm neither an accountant nor into anything finance, but if you don't feel like an accountant any longer, I don't see any reason why you still have to continue in that path. Weigh you new dreams cautiously, research into it well before u delve into it, and if you are satisfied, fire on all cylinders.

Thats ma 2 cents

@Hesperus

Situations differ from person to person. I have seen people here in UK doin odd jobs and livin far,far better than they did back home in naija

If you had written this statement like 3 years ,  I would have agreed. I have seen individuals making it with odd jobs in UK as well, but even now with the recession setting in, every one knows where the shoe pinces. people are losing jobs at alarming rate, there is pressure on the "odd" jobs itself and thereby forcing down the salary. No money, no dignity!. Suffering and smiling

Besides, you are mixing 2 things up. This thread is referring to people who are professionals in their chosen careers doing Odd jobs, people who have better potentials to make it in Nigeria but because of what people will say when they get to Nigeria, they are stuck to living in UK. don't forget that some people are even illiterates but are professionals in their field. Some people just need 500 pounds to kickstart their business in naija, but they will get here and be thinking of billions.Billions they wont see, Naija they wont go, and thus getting worse off.
@Damiso

Some people are proffessionals with a standard of living lower than someone who is doing menial jobs here

I refuse to agree with this. The mistake we normally make is generally tagging all graduates as professionals. Hell no!. Professionals refer to authority in your chosen career.Some people graduate from Uni or Poly without any knowledge whatsoever about their discipline. I refuse to refer to such as professionals, and maybe they are the type you are referring to here. Sorry, they aint professionals, they are mediocres.

Some people were ok in naija, but just frustrated with the mess around them (i.e NEPA, water,  roads, etc) and just decided to relocate for comfort.

Where lies the comfort in UK ?. The silent racism, the tiny house, the steady light, gas, water that come at very exorbitant price, the killing taxes, their rude kids that insult and assault at every point in time etc.
I stand to be corrected tho.

PS : I'm not slagging off UK but saying my mind in relations to Nigerian professionals (illiterate and literate) neck-deep in Odd jobs in UK but with better potentials to make it in Nigeria

@wumiabo,

You have started what I regard as my "BEST THREAD" ever on Nairaland. I totally agree with everything you raised in your thread. Let me make refernce to some specific statement :

If living abroad will not favour you and you know you had a good job at home or potential of then don't waste your life because of what people will say.

A lot of people have told me here in the UK that the main reason why they do not want to go back home is what people will say when they get back home. Even, some people say they can't stay more than a month in Nigeria because they do not want people to have the notion that they are deported. I consider this ridiculous. It's meant to be my life and not another person. I could remember being in Nigeria one time, and I spent about 3 months, a lot of the people around me were gossiping about me that I had been deported, but who cares?. Until we are able to stand for what we believe in, i don't see any progress in sight

A lot of people have lost their destiny, live goals and personality just because they want to relocate abroad

This is really the truth!. A loT of people drops out from Uni or Poly because they want to come abroad, with the believe that when they get there, they will come and "hustle" and use the proceed to fund their school. When they eventually get here, reality dawn on them. They can't move forward, and they wont want to go back to Nigeria, knowing fully well that they will have to start their Uni from the scratch , and moreso, it will amount to a huge shame among their friends. So many brilliant chaps are really wasting away due to this fact. Besides, some people are very comfortable back home, they relocate here only to see that all the hype about abroad IS a mirage. I think we must all learn that sometimes our decisions could be wrong, but we MUST not find it too hard to RETRACE our steps no matter how painful it could be.

People do odd jobs that will definitely degrade one

A trained lawyer in Naija doing care work abroad, to me is a degradation. Argue it from today till tommorrow, I wont shift my stance on this. There's a difference between a professional and layman. Imagine Gordon brown's Children , or Tony Blair's or even Obama's doing all these "odd" jobs. You wont find any of the elite children there. Call it "Nigeria" mentality, i dont care. What is the essence of a job that you are doing that negates all the values in you. Something that wont bring fulfilment but rather allow you to live from hands to mouth. Something you cant tell pple in Naija that this is what you are doing. or who prays to spend fortune on his child's education that at the end of the day , he will use such certificate to be a rubbish collector ??

Lastly, any one is free to choose his/her own destiny but I feel we must choose rather wisely. I will rather prefer to be a fulfilled professional in Nigeria than being a dish-washer, dog-walker, train-cleaner and any other menial jobs you could think of abroad. A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE!