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when you live under a tyrannical being like the bible god with an ego so vain that he creates others just to kiss his egoistic butt for eternity; a god who acts like a jealous ex-girlfriend and a tantrum throwing child with an uncontrolled temper wrapped in one: you just might rebel and try a coupe d'etat like the mythical devil aka lucifer aka satan

infact, who tempted lucifer, a supposed angel of god? how can a perfect god create a being that will one day malfunction and then rebel against it/he/she?
how can an all-knowing god go ahead and create something and not know that it would one day rebel against him and cause confusion amongst his/its/her creation?

oh i forgot. the bible god is just a non-existent mythical figure created by ancient goat herding jewish nomads. who believed above the skies is an actual kingdom where god resides in , to explain away things beyond their understanding and control people. only brainwashed adults with a total absence of logic indoctrinated from childhood would believe such crap of a coup d'etat in some mythical heaven by some non-existent boogie man called lucifer. religion sure is cancerous


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smh @ this raving loony

dude, go and see a psychiatrist. . .and fast

^^^^^LAME

@ aletheia. i don't normally like going back and forth in unending arguments with strangers on the internet, since no one is likely to back down from preconceived notions (they got either through brainwash or just simply using your brain) but i would accord you the decency of trying to reply to your arguments since you're coming at me civil, unlike the attention seeking hypocrite and closeted gay guy above me

aletheia:
^^^
1. I don't have any problem with your posting the foibles or shortcomings or hypocrisy of Ted Haggard et al. Like I pointed out, the bible and God and other Christians condemn such.

like i reiterated earlier, its the same way the bible and its jewish god condemns the act of murder but in the same breath encourages (in the case of the bible) and orders (in the case of its god) the senseless massacre and slaughtering of others; the same god you christians claim to be just and all loving, advocates slavery, goes on mindless genocidal rampages and unessecary and unwarranted murders, like some kids making fun of an old man or some dude who dropped some ark. Christians on their part, have historically killed more people in the name of their god than all of the other religions combined.

what i'm driving at here is the hypocrisy both in the bible, the bible god and christians in general. what you typed up there is exactly the same defense the muslims employ when the al-qeadas, boko harams etc commit senseless atrocities and say "our religion condemns such" or "we're a religion of peace" when the actions are otherwise

2. Please be truthful and honest since you claim the moral high ground: Where did I equate atheism with homosexualism? Aren't you now being guilty of the same thing you accused Christians of? Tarring with rather broad brush strokes?

Surely you can be more civil than this, have I in any way insulted you or called you a smartass?

1. i never claimed any moral high ground 2. with the initial question you asked, you and i know, you were trying to infer that christians are usually anti-gay while atheist are pro-gay, its why i bombarded you with numerous examples of the hypocrisy of such a stand. the male-attention-seeking closeted gay poster above me is a typical example

3. I was under the apprehension that you were an atheist and I apologize if you are not and find it offensive that I thought you were one.
^^^Be fair, I was rehashing your own words back at you.

i understand you being under the apprehension impression that i am atheist; nothin against that, but you dubiously stated that in your question ("for one who claims to be an atheist" that i am one who claimed such when never have i done such a thing. i dont like to put myself under any label i just dont believe in fairytale stories (the bible), mythical entities (the bible god) and dont ascribe to all the atrocious bulcrap written by ancient goat herders just because i was brainwashed to do that as a child or because some white land grabbers and slave runners forced my forefathers to adopt their foreign religion in order to better control and take advantage of them

They may be men representing God; but whether God Himself considers that they represent Him is another matter entirely!

an entity (or in this case, god) cannot put into consideration who does or doesn't represent him/she/it when such an entity is OBVIOUSLY non-existent. no god ever came down to appoint anyone to represent him. since the advent of time, its MEN who have claimed to represnt whatever god. thus, those self-appointed men of god are as credible as a moses who claimed to receive writing on a tablet from god and in the process seeing god's back, or joseph smiths claim of receiving tablets from angels, or mohammed receiving visions from allah, or guru maharaji claiming to be god himself. only difference is in the absurdity of their claims itself

Sadly what you say is true. . .and no Christian I know defends these. But you do realize that the Bible explicitly says that these things will happen.
Is it God's will that men lie, cheat, commit paedophilia and homosexual acts? The answer is No. And it is actually a very weak argument to suggest that because certain men of God are living in disobedience to his will, then that makes the bible untrue. Concerning the condition of the Church and society itself in the end of the age: Jesus does make emphatic declarations that we see being fulfilled in our time. "Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?"

refer to my earlier statements. the bible is not untrue because of these acts, its just as obviously untrue as stories in the koran or harry porter, for reasons so obvious only blind faith and a total absence of logic will make a full grown adult believe the absurdities that abounds in it

The Bible has much to say about the human condition: It is God's Message to Man, and I would urge you to read it with an open heart.

i have (read it with an open heart) and its so obvious that its a collection of jewish myths and folklores sprinkled with unsubstantiated historical accounts (of the JEWISH people) and some supposedly miracle working carpenter named yeshua who for some reason was equated to godly status after his tragic death

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this thread was hilarious. as hilarious as the absurdity that is the christian god

free123:
the OP should read the Bible more often so as not to make the mistake of putting God to test again.

i think the OP did read the bible. you remember the story of prophet elijah and the challenge with 450 prophets of baal? only difference is, that challenge was recorded in a fictional/fairytale story and this is REALITY? non-living things are not able to take up challenges in REALITY

so yea, the OP did make a mistake quite alright. the mistake of putting a non-existent entity to some form of test

aletheia:
I see that you actually avoided answering my question.

1. because i am not obligated to answer any one of your questions, especially when it had nothing whatsoever to do with the thread topic. 2. because your question came out of just trying to be a smart azz in defense of your e-christian brother who was attempting to derail the thread by employing the usual diversionary christian hypocritical christ-like(?) antics of name calling and verbal abuse 3. your question ("^^For one who claims to be an atheist: what is it that you have against "fagg0ts") was just a smart azz attempt to somehow equate atheism with fagg0try while dubiously attempting to negate the fact that christians(like the e-christian brother you were jumping in to defend), and even their highly acclaimed and revered leaders, can also (and have been well documented) to be gays. 4. the first part of your question ("^^For one who claims to be an atheist:) is false, so i wasn't even sure if you were actually referring the question to me in the first place, for never have i ever "claimed" (according to you) to be an atheist. maybe bearing false witness is now one of the virtues of christianity, which takes me to answer number 5. which is that, i just wanted to expose the hypocrisy that is the christian religion (ala your smart azz questions), and will be delving more into that later

Instead; turning it into an extended diatribe against supposed "men of the christian god".

oh, they're now "supposed" men of the christian god after being exposed for their hypocrisy. well, most of the aforementioned men still stand on pulpits to preach the word till this day so whether you like it or not, they're still men representing the christian god

now to answer your questions (not because i'm actually obligated to but just because i got a lot of sunday time on my hands right now)

1. Does the fact that some high-profile preachers are gay mean that most other men of the cloth are gay as you allege?

i don't know about that, but it just goes to prove the extent of hypocrisy that abounds amongst those who practice the christian faith (nairaland is one typical example as the christian posters are fraught to be the most unchrist-like in mannerism; nigeria is a better/broader example: lots of fanatical christians and more churches per sq mile than any other country i can think of, but still, fraud and corruption remains a normal thing out there)

2. Don't the Bible and the Christian God and other Christians condemn the things that these men stand accused of?

yes, they purportedly do. but the same christian god who supposedly wrote "thou shall not kill" in stone tablets(lol) in one of his commandments, in the same breath, orders people to kill, murder, despoil, pillage the lands of others. the same christian god who came down in human form to die for his own self (lol again) preaching love and peace, is the same bloodthirsty egomaniac in the old testament (or isn't he?); the same tyrannical monster who has no problem with slavery or unjustified killing of innocent women and children in a spat of  unwarranted genocidal rampages, but in the same vain is labeled "all-loving" by his bunch of deluded followers. this same god in one breath wants a man to have not more than one wife but is ok with one of his anointed heroes (solomon) having hundreds of wives and concubines. christians, their god, and their bible supposedly condemn murder but christianity historically remains the religion with the most killings under it's belt in the name of their god. i know the slaves of allah are attempting a catch-up in this regard, but you get my drift?

More examples of high profile christian hypocrisy:

A hypocrite exposing a hypocrite-

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In 1986, evangelist Jimmy Swaggart began on-screen attacks against fellow televangelists Marvin Gorman and Jim Bakker. He uncovered Gorman's affair with a member of Gorman's congregation, and also helped expose Bakker's infidelity (which was arranged by a colleague while on an out-of-state trip).These exposures received widespread media coverage. Gorman retaliated in kind by hiring a private investigator to uncover Swaggart's own adulterous indiscretions with a love-peddler. Swaggart was subsequently forced to step down from his pulpit for a year and made a tearful televised apology in February 1988 to his congregation, saying "I have sinned against you, my Lord, and I would ask that your precious blood would wash and cleanse every stain until it is in the seas of God's forgiveness."

Swaggart was caught again by California police three years later in 1991 with another love-peddler, Rosemary Garcia, who was riding with him in his car when he was stopped for driving on the wrong side of the road. When asked why she was with Swaggart, she replied, "He asked me for sex. I mean, that's why he stopped me. That's what I do. I'm a love-peddler."

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Joe Barron, one of the 40 ministers at Prestonwood Baptist Church, one of the largest churches in the United States with 26,000 members, was arrested on May 15, 2008 for solicitation of a minor after driving from the Dallas area to Bryan, Texas, in order to allegedly engage in sexual relations with what he thought to be a 13 year-old girl he had met online. The "girl" turned out to be an undercover law enforcement official.

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Kenyan-born Deya moved to the United Kingdom in the 1990s and started a number of churches. He claims to have supernatural powers that allow him to make infertile women become pregnant and give birth. However, police investigations in the UK and Kenya concluded that Deya and his wife were stealing Kenyan babies. Deya was arrested in London during December 2006 and as of April 2010 he is currently fighting extradition to Kenya.

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Tilton is an American televangelist who achieved notoriety in the 1980s and early 1990s through his paid television program Success-N-Life. At its peak, it aired in all 235 American TV markets. In 1991, Diane Sawyer and ABC News conducted an investigation of Tilton. The investigation, broadcast on ABC's Primetime Live on November 21, 1991, found that Tilton's ministry threw away prayer requests without reading them, keeping only the money or valuables sent to them by viewers, garnering his ministry an estimated $80 million USD a year. In the original investigation, one of Tilton's former prayer hotline operators claimed that the ministry cared little for desperate followers who called for prayer, saying that Tilton had a computer installed in July 1989 to make sure that the phone operators were off the line in seven minutes. Tilton sued ABC for libel in 1992, but the case was dismissed in 1993, and Tilton's show was off the air by October 30, 1993.

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Gortner rose to fame in the late 1940s as a child preacher, but he had simply been trained to do this by his parents and he had no personal faith. He was able to perform "miracles" and received large amounts of money in donations. After suffering a crisis of conscience, he invited a film crew to accompany him on a final preaching tour. The resulting film, Marjoe, mixes footage of revival meetings with Gortner's explanations of how evangelists manipulate their audiences. It won the 1972 Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature, but was never screened in the Southern United States due to fears that it would cause outrage in the Bible Belt.


If highly revered anointed men of the christian god can be this hypocritical, how much more the less anointed followers

TORDOO:
The bible is complete,it says a fool say there is no GOD,this is a typical example

and you my friend are a typical example of a brainwashed slowpoke who can't seem to think for his deluded self but relies on the wisdom of ancient jewish goat herders who thought the sun revolved around the earth

you believe in a god who sent a piece of himself to kill himself as a sacrifice to himself and you're here calling people fools. deluded goat

It's funny how when the 33 miners in Chile were saved people were THANKING GOD, but now that 21 Chinese miners died, it's not GODS fault. Geeee where was god when those miners died in china? why everything good happens god takes all the credit, but when stuff like the china incident happens, god is never mentioned or gets blame. DOUBLE STANDARD BY RELIGIOUS MORONS.

bottom line, they werent saved by god , they were saved by technology; the same technology that religion done its best to hold back over the centurys. just hope everyone could just hold their cult sentiments to themselves. glad they're out n ok

aletheia:
^^For one who claims to be an atheist: what is it that you have against "fagg0ts"

because most supposedly divine men of the christian god, revered by you guys have come to be exposed as hypocritical fagg0ts; and don't forget the catholic priests and little boys




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Ted Haggard is an American evangelical preacher. Founder and former pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado, he is also the founder of the Association of Life-Giving Churches, and he was the leader of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) from 2003 until November 2006.

In November 2006, male-love-peddler and masseur Mike Jones alleged that Haggard had paid him to engage in sex with him for three years and had also purchased and used crystal methamphetamine. A few days later Haggard resigned from all of his leadership positions after he admitted his gay sexual infidelity and methamphetamine use.

Jones said he had only recently learned of Haggard's true identity, and explained his reasons for coming forward by saying, "It made me angry that here’s someone preaching against gay marriage and going behind the scenes having gay sex." Jones made the allegations public in response to Haggard's political support for a Colorado Amendment 43 on the November 7, 2006 Colorado ballot that would ban same-sex marriage in that state. Jones told ABC News, "I had to expose the hypocrisy. He is in the position of influence of millions of followers, and he's preaching against gay marriage. But behind everybody's back [he's] doing what he's preached against." Jones hoped that his statements would sway voters.

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Bishop Eddie Long is the senior pastor of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, a 25,000 member megachurch in unincorporated DeKalb County, Georgia, United States.

On September 21 and 22, 2010, Maurice Robinson, Anthony Flagg, and Jamal Parris filed separate lawsuits in DeKalb County Superior Court alleging that Long used his pastoral influence to coerce them into a sexual relationship with him. On September 24,  Spencer LeGrande, a 4th acuser and  member of a New Birth satellite church in Charlotte, North Carolina, filed a similar suit, claiming sexual misconduct by Long. The plaintiffs state that Long placed the men on the church’s payroll, bought them cars and other gifts, and took them separately on trips to destinations such as Kenya, South Africa, Turks and Caicos Islands, Trinidad, Honduras, New Zealand, and New York City.

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Lonnie Frisbee was an American closeted gay Pentecostal evangelist and self-described "seeing prophet" in the late 1960s and 1970s who despite his "hippie" appearance had notable success as a minister and evangelist. Frisbee was a key figure in the Jesus Movement and was involved in the rise of two worldwide denominations (Calvary Chapel and the Vineyard Movement). He eventually died from AIDS in 1993.

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John Paulk is a former leader of Focus on the Family's Love Won Out conference and former chairman of the board for Exodus International North America. In September 2000, Paulk was found and photographed in a Washington, D.C. gay bar, and accused by opponents of flirting with male patrons at the bar. Later questioned by gay rights activist Wayne Besen, Paulk denied being in the bar despite photographic proof to the contrary. Initially, FoF's Dr. James Dobson sided with Paulk and supported his claims. Subsequently, Paulk, who himself had written about his habit of lying while he openly lived as a homosexual, confessed to being in the bar, but claimed he entered the establishment for reasons other than sexual pursuits.

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In 2006, Latham, the senior pastor of South Tulsa Baptist Church and a member of the powerful Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee, was arrested for "offering to engage in an act of lewdness" with a male undercover police officer

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George Alan Rekers, a far-right Christian leader was encountered and photographed at Miami International Airport returning from an extended overseas trip with a twenty-year-old "rent boy", or gay male love-peddler, known as "Lucien" (later identified as Jo-Vanni Roman). Given his opinion on homosexuals and homosexual behavior, the scandal surrounds Rekers' decision to employ a homosexual escort as a traveling companion, and how that runs contrary to Rekers' public stances on such issues.

Rekers claimed that Lucien was there to help carry Rekers' luggage as Rekers had allegedly had recent surgery, yet Rekers was seen carrying his own luggage when he and Lucien were spotted at the airport. In subsequent interviews, Roman said Rekers had paid him to provide unclothed massages daily, which included focal place touching.



This is just but a few examples. And lest we forget, all em catholic priest scandals with lil boys

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And now, back on topic:

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Image123:
While you ruminate on Jesus and His Father's stance, i must say that i'm very disappointed with you. i thought you'll turn the whole place upside down like one of your colleagues warned me recently,

one of "my colleagues"? this guy, you sure say you dey okay so. i see you're seeking to engage in uneccessary e-battle of words; jobless retard. why dont you go make better use of your worthless self by going to fill out job applications instead of seeking male attention online. fagg0t

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eldee:
Nigerian traffic rules are easy to follow . . . if you hear 'hollit (hold it)', you are constitutionally obliged to put your arm out of your car with a heavily folded N50 note or lower, depending on the size of the road.

9ice disobeyed this traffic rule and he was punished.

na so oh. then dem dey rankadede for u instead of a beat down


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9ice Arrestted: Fresh Facts Surface About The Arrest
« on: May 09, 2008, 05:05 PM »

mehn, dis na old news na. is the music scene so boring now peeps got to go ressurected olden days threads

Image123:
^You muddled are not just ignorant and muddled up. You, REMEMBER, are THE FOOL. Never forget that ever. Psalm 14v1

okay, if that helps you sleep better at night; really appreciate the christ-like response. i'm now used to how you guys (nairaland christians) get down. haul insults and invectives at anyone of a different opinion from yours. nice christian virtue; carpenter yeshua and his father/himself will be really proud of ya

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Image123:
Waoh, i've yet to see so much ignorance all month. Unbelievers are truly dead and then [b]blind [/b]on top of it.

smh @ this slowpoke employing the usual christian apologist tactics of unwarranted attacks and insults. you believe in talking snakes and donkeys, and label others ignorant. smh


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Thank God for Jesus who still offers hope in such situations.

as a christian, is that not suppose to translate to "thank god for himself who still offers hope in such situations". smh. and people think the mormons are weird

while we're at it, why dont we pray for satan himself to repent and accept jesus as his lord and personal savior. that would be awesome, for we wont be going through no more negative and evil crap no more. remember, faith can move mountains and with god ALL things are possible, and before anybody starts attacking me, remember god is an all-loving, all-forgiving god.

i know this would really mess up a lot of basic christian doctrine; for one thing, the prince of darkness plays a pretty major role in the end times; if he "went good," we'd need a whole new script for revelations and, if there was no Evil One, who would we blame bad things on? You wouldn't be able to say "the devil made me do it" anymore. but its still gonna be all for the greater good; seriously

the christian god felt it necessary to write the ten commandments himself, why not just finish it? why live it for us imperfect men to do for him? he's typewriter got broken or something? and why only men? why not have women write it as well? (guess we all know the answer to this one)

smh @ using the bible to support the bible. "the bible is the word of god because it is written in it",lol. god inspiring people to write the bible would be like saying harry potter told J.K. how to write the harry potter novels. If god (as described in the bible as all perfect and all knowing) wrote the bible, there wouldn't remain the question. the bible writers believed the sun revolves around the earth. god should probably know that it doesnt.

the bible was obviously conceived by mysoginist bronze age goat herders way back in ancient times when humans asked themselves 'why is the world as we perceive it? where did it start? how did it form?' as an answer to these questions while trying to also instill order and rule amongst their group, thats why it seems like a reward and punishment guide. it was written by men, just like all mythology

Ivynwa:
Mudley sweetheart what is making you unhappy Baby? Now cheer up and come get some party goodies.(Ivynwa put her hands across Mudley's shoulder and quietly took him by an usher) "Hey Usher please kindly serve this my special guest anything, anything that he wants and do get him sitted by the high table okay"

Thanks. Like i reiterarted earlier on, i too i'm ecstatic bout the successful rescue efforts after months underground; but sorry to say, your god didn't do a damn thing in gettin em out

@ jesoul, i dont really feel im being targeted on here but hypocritical christians be acting all sensitive like kids (in an adult forum) always running to the mod when you try to point out the obvious to them, but at the same time you see them raining insults and curses on those who dont share same faith with them in other threads. Example - Christian Poster: "my bible tells me you're a fool and damned for not believing in my jewish god who came to earth as himself and died 2000 years ago saying 'i'll be back' like terminator" (No problem). Atheist Poster: "Logic tells me you're a fool and deluded for believing in jewish folklores, myths and fairytales written by ancient jewish nomads about their jewish deity yahweh (Christian then runs to mod crying, mod then bans atheist under pressure)

JeSoul:
Long story. Look just stop derailing the thread. It is not by force to contribute to a thread - and its certainly not your call which threads/topics are considered "religion" worthy. A girl posted a simple thread asking people to pray. If you don't want to pray then for God's sake just move on and don't click on the thread.

and did you delete the posts of dissenters when someone made a "simple" thread asking people to pray for erasmus akingbola. did you also delete the posts of those who didn't find it worthy to pray over but didn't move on but stopped to click and post "their opinion" on the absurdity of the thread (same thing im doing here). anyway, no shaking

People - christians and others - are always complaining about you and your posts, yet you are certainly not the only atheist here.

and you and i know it's only because i do not fail to point out the absurdities in their beliefs that challenges it. these same absurd beliefs its whats killing nigeria with people living under $1 a day revering MOGs and even giving all their little money to these already very wealthy con-artists. these same absurd belief brought to use by the white man who pillaged our land and enslaved us is why people dont use their hands and heads anymore and rely on imaginary spiritual aid blaming their travails and incompetence on an imaginary devil. like i said, no shaking sha. nigeria go better one day. i know its a christian thing to shut down dissenters as you can see through history (and a naija thing, as you can see in our political spectrum)while they hypocritically castigate those of other faiths

JeSoul:
Mudley313, Rhino.3dm and others - 

  the topic is about the Chilean miners and praying for them, your off-topic posts are derailing the thread. If you want to talk about anything else please open another thread or continue on one of yours. Ivynwa has peacefully carried on her thread from a while now, please leave her be and others contributing to her call.

Well, she posted the miners story in the "religion" section, which i don't think it should be in since the miners incident has not a thing to do with religion, and went on to attribute the whole rescue efforts and its success to her christian good tho, who was nowhere near the rescue scene for obvious reasons. If the "religion" section was the "christian" section maybe we would all follow her like blind sheeps and scream the jewish halleluyah and amen chants, in delusion that yahweh (who by the way has failed to prevent way more significant and bigger catastrophes like Nazi concentration camps, Rwanda massacre or Haiti earthquake) somehow had a hand in the rescue effort. But unfortunately, the religion section is comprised of both christians, muslims, atheist etc and there sure is bound to be disagreement if someone arrogantly attributes the success of the rescue work on their god.

Bottom line, since she decided to post this "news story" in the religion section, she should be prepared to "discuss" the relevance of religion or the christian god in this whole episode. This is supposed to be a discussion forum and i don't see how others asking questions on the relations between this incident and christianity can be termed derailment in a "discussion" forum

its exactly like that "pray for erasmus akingbola (or whatever)" thread. i didn't see you jump in that thread to castigate fellow nigerians/forumites airing their discerning opinions about nigerians seeking prayers for an obvious criminal--and that topic even had something to do with religion for he was a pastor(i guess)

and thanks for deleting my posts whenever its not in agreement with what you believe or exposes the rot that is the belief in imaginary entities (like the one threadstarter is expecting us to thank for doing what others did) or whenever your fellow lily-livered christian runs to you to help em defend their god that can never seem to do anything for himself talkless of people trapped way beneath the soil. anyways, no qualms. its all good; i know freedom of opinion/expression is generally frowned upon in naija

Almuhandis:
13th miner out! Alleluiah
the islamic religion cant fanthom a rescue made possible by God.Tell me as a muslim what have you guys done towards the miners -nothing instead you are quoting history and pasting the national crime rates of secular nations, why dont you paste that of Nigeria. Saudi Arabia, Egypt etc.Keep deluding yourself,the Jihadist will kill even muslims like you, because you dont have the liver to kill as instructed by  the quran
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-445327.768.html

i know ms christian mod is going to ignore this actual topic derailment when no muslim here attributed the successful rescue efforts to their own imaginary god allah or muslims? hmm

thank you for copying and pasting from history.com,

the fact that i copied and pasted it dont make it any less true or less atrocious than the atrocities in-the-name-of-religion you accuse your muslim brothers of. bloody hypocrite

lovethokoh:
Mallam Mudley313,
this explains why you and your muslim brothers all over the world want to annihilate the human race with their archaic and wicked religion

mallam ko, mallam ni. smh @ this deluded goat jumping to conclusion that i am a muslim. sorry, i neither serve/worship the archaic arabian idol called allah nor i'm i a slave to the egoistic I AM of jewish biblical fame. both deities are non-existent and their deluded followers have caused a lot of havoc to human kind in the name of my-god-is-better-than-your-god. fairytales and imaginary friends are for kids

Ivynwa:
Yeah people, just woke up from a 2 hours sleep, on my way to work now. Updated myself and saw that the seventh miner is about to ascend.
All keep praising the Lord. Alleluiah.
Please, please Daylae and Alhumandis, do me a favour and ignore the "kill joys and sadists" that just can't be happy. Silence is what we have for them in this thread while our joy party is on. Even one of the miners themselves knew that a joy party is on for them and on coming out first knelt down to praise the Lord.

Everybody keep singing---------you are worthy Oh Lord! Angels are singing. You are worthy ----Oh Lord. Everybody shouting-----You are worthy Oh Lord (Ivy sings on and proceeds to workwhile still singing!). If only I can take this laptop to work with me, I will be very happy----maybe I can smuggle it along, let me see what I am going to do.)

Ehmmmmm brother Daylae or Image123 please you guys should keep the guests coming to our joy party company and chat on with them, I will be back in 8 and half hours time. Byeeeeeee people-------Angels are singing, you are worthy Oh Lord, everybody shouting----------

mehn, sharrap there. kill-joy ni, kill joy ko. i also i'm very happy for them, but my gripe here is with you stupidly and selfishly attributing the hard work of many to your non-existent god invented by ancient jewish nomads; what arrogance and ignorance. why didn't you attribute the success to sango? wonder what this thread is doing in the religious section. trust the christians to try and steal accolades for their spineless god. ewus

daylae:
For those who said their survival has nothing to do with God's intervention,i'll say tell that to the miners who have been trusting in him,their families praying for them,and even the experts with the recue mission.

Tell that to the 20,000 tutsi's who sought refuge in god's supposed house (a church), cried to him but were still slaughtered and massacred or tell that to the 6 million jews (your god's own people) who were gassed out or the millions of nigerians today living in penury while at the same time crying, praying, fasting for your imaginary god to make some ind of magical change. i'm happy for the miner's rescue,but IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR GODDAMN GOD!!! If they had relied on him, they'd have been toast like the rwandan and jewish example above. The rwandan tutsi's needed UN peacekeeping force, the jews needed american and russian troops intervention; millions of nigerians today need good governance and accountability and the chileans needed a competent rescue team. as you can see, nothing whatsoever to do with a jewish guy up the sky who came to earth as his son, was a carpenter and was murdered like a common criminal without him able to lift a finger against his transgressors and that was 2 thousand years ago

Uyi Iredia:
@ Mudley >>> i haven't >>> i deliberately & continuously ask for you to give simple questions on your 'subject' >>> so that i can answer
                >>> give the questions

okay. let me try one last time. i hope, as a non-christian, to be educated on these texts straight out your holy book

The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible, especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples of your god's irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of bald people, and the killing of a man who tried to keep the ark of god from falling during transport. There are also countless examples of mass murders commanded by your god, including the murder of women, infants, and children.

Questions: why's the jewish your god so prone to unnecessary, and most of the time unjustified, murderous rampages? why do you label him all-loving when he's clearly depicted as an ego-driven genocidal maniac in your infallible bible? whats up with your god being all-loving and at the same time a blood thirsty despotic monster as clearly depicted in your bible? whats the justification behind all that wickedness and evil? and don't come at me with all that it's just the old testament crap unless you wanna admit that the god's in the old and new testaments are entirely two different entities

Just so you don't feel i'm being too harsh in my language, i will provide you with the following passages which are a very small percentage of the total passages approving of murder in the Bible. They are divided here into three parts: 1) Capital Punishment Crimes, 2) God's Murders for Stupid Reasons, 3) Murdering Children, and 4) Miscellaneous Murders. This list is long, but it barely scratches the surface of all the murders approved of in the Bible.

1) Capital Punishment Crimes:

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents

1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (the subject of the thread)

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets

1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die

So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle

For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

2) God's Murders for Stupid Reasons:

Kill Brats

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

God Kills the Curious

And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)

Killed by a Lion

Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)

Killing the Good Samaritan

The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.

When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)

3) Murdering Children

Kill Sons of Sinners

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children

The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

Kill Men, Women, and Children

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

God Kills all the First Born of Egypt

And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

Kill Old Men and Young Women

"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)

God Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

More Rape and Baby Killing

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

not to make fun of your obviously absurd beliefs or nothing, but who needs a devil when we got emperor yahweh

from people who sold their soul to the mythical devil to the redundant back and forth my-god-is-better-than-your-god arguments. smh @ grown ups arguing over who's imaginary friend is better

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Ivynwa:
All I am wishing for you sweethearts is that God in his infinite mercy will wreak a little miracle somewhere in your life that will have you nodding your head and saying "There really is God". Who made the miners? Who made Technology? Who gave the rescuers the intelligence and abilities? God my dears, God.

which god? the jewish yahweh? the arabian allah? the greek's zeus? or the yoruba god oduduwa?

Job in job13 vs 15 said that if he slay me, I will still trust in him. Even if all is not well around me and things are not going as I expected them and friends like you are mocking me and my God. I will trust in him. I know that my redeemer liveth. Somebody shout Alleluiah!

oh please. more drivel from the inconsistent book of jewish folklores and myths. quit quoting fairytales and attributing the tenacity of the rescue workers to your non-existent god. many in nigeria fervently believe and trust in him/her/it but still live under $1 per day while hardworking folks elsewhere who dont have to rely on an invisible man in the sky are making constant progress

Uyi Iredia:
@ Mudley 313 >>> i'm still waiting for your reply >>> not rants

you have deliberately/continously avoided the subject matter of the thread and thus i have no time to be engaged in non-sensical back n forth e-arguments with you. if you're looking for a friend to play with simply log-off n go outside

Ivynwa:
Updates! Updates!
Our rescue hole has been test run by passing in the rescue capsule through it 4 times and it proved good. All bless the Lord as the world calmly await for the rescue in 2 days time. Alleluiah Somebody!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101011/ap_on_bi_ge/lt_chile_mine_collapse

i read the yahoo news link in your post and no where in it was the rescue effort attributed to your imaginary jewish god, so pls stop with the unnecessary misinformation. alleuiah ni, alleluyah ko

vedaxcool:
Unlike toba who believes that any attack on Islam and Muslims brings Joy to the Lord, I took it upon myself to reply this silly questions you ask to someone thaqt that has not showed this tendencies(killing), as wouild would you see someone wearing clothes and ask him if he was unclothed? no that would be a silly questions from all induication indication, and these are usually the silly question you are in the habbit habit of asking, remeber remember Niezche  had a mental problem how would you feel if you were often ask whether you are sane in any way since your gfodfather niezche was mad. Definately Definitely that is the level of quamire quagmire you find yourself in, the only sensible? question you can ask at any Juncture is did God send those that kill in his naME, IF THAT IS THE REASON THAT YOU ARE AN ATHEIST pity people like you who like to show how daqft they are in Public, If Muslims and Christians have often reply that God does not command mischief yet you at every juncture would ask the seemless seamless question, then you might be considered a RETARD in all respect as what are u deaf, is it so hard to ubderstand understand simple english. And as for growing up without my dad, No I did grow every day knowing the presence of my father and enjoying parental love something your godfather niex=z\che found repulsive which probably explain why he went mad, as for homo?? whatever it is you atheist that bask in the glory of such foolery as a deafeat defeat to God's Laws and again such statement shows why you lack morals in all respect and should be pitied for being a waste of biological resources, as

vedaxcool:
Can two fools rightly guide each other? Toba your case is one of terminal cancer [/b]where you are sure you have reached the end but have not seen the end,we know people like you are Intellectually pre-matured and hence do not know the difference from your left and your right instead you prefer dancing with the the [b]Mad men to show you are sane? what a pity, as often you walk on your head rather than leg, Christian usually display this form of decadence when it come to Islam that is they support the atheist and anti-religious Alethia once claimed that the pagans of Mecca were on the right path, persons in other to get what they want but guess what
You only succed succeed in showing your Pathetic nature " Faith by despiration desperation", You can support an athiest atheist asking the same foolish questions over and over again and add the Pagans of Mecca to fufill all righteusness righteousness. That is just you, the man that feeds his faith with despiration desperation.

Mudley[b](Dirtley) [/b]yopu youwho believe all the users on NL are Men this is what peole people like Toba pray for you all the time:toba
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i see you decided to write a whole book and go the insult route over a post that had nothing whatsoever to do with your attention seeking islamic fundamentalist self. okay. In truth though, it's your mom i pity. I heard she died giving birth to you. Which probably was the best thing, because had she laid eyes on you and seen what you became, she would have died from shame.

and before you go about labeling people as retarded and intellectually premature, try and work on your spelling and grammar. your english is appalling for a primary school drop out. and who the hell is Niezche smh

dude, just go and hang yourself

you guys (christians) are here mocking and laughing at the absurdities that is other religious beliefs but when you get called out on the countless absurdities that is the book of jewish myths n folklores called the bible you either run n tuck your tail behind your legs or resort to aimless name callings n nonsensical invocations of curses. bloody hypocrites

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yommyuk:
Honestly bro, the root of utter delusion has growth so deep in me to the stage that I am starting to feel very sorry for myself
I can only imagine the rot of my inner man(brain) due to being totally brainwashed by utterly absurd foreign religious beliefs and practices brought to us by the white man while at the same time plundering our land and literarily enslaving us.

REMEDY.
see a psychiatrist as soon as possible

i thought as much

OLAADEGBU:
This is how they sign their souls away, for fame.

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smh. presenting cartoon strips as evidence of some mythical entities signing contractual agreements with one another is as credible as comic strips with a grown man with tight clothings and a cape flying in the sky

and you forgot to mention obama in your post