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toba:
I was really angry and in haste to respond to u,

toba:
No boy. I'm not hurt, i'm just catching fun here and what about u?

smh. what a bag of contradictions

at the end of the day (and on a more serious note), i think you seriously should take heed to my earlier advice and go get yourself a life in the real world instead of spewing a bunch of retarded lies to impress faceless screen names online. start with a job application (even the uneducated still put their hands to productive use)

toba:
@Enigma [/b]feel u jare.
mudley the self confessed animal(according to [b]nuclearboy)

smh @ constantly namedropping online screen names to make you feel some form of self worth and you (who always claim to be the adult) not having a mind of your own. you're so worried about what faceless e-buddies think about you huh? it is you who was threatening brimestone and fire earlier on but soon as one of your online boyfriends showed up you had to change your mind in order to please them and make your useless self feel better about his worthless life. i have nothing against you, i only feel kinda bad for you. you suffer from sever low self esteem issues. you have no life so you come online to seek acceptance from faceless male strangers. i remember once you were even asking me if it was possible to go out with you for a beer. eeewww.

i come on here just to be closer to my fellow naijas cos i lived and am currently in a place were there's hardly any nigerian, what's your excuse. why do you have to even go to the extent of lying about what you do, your educational qualifications, and how many imaginary countries you've flown to in your dream? go cry to your fellow christian mod all you want, i don't care if i get banned unlike you who'd probably commit suicide if you do since you're jobless and spend all your life here. yea, i was not happy when i got banned the last time cos i was new here in germany and occupied myself with the going ons in naija through nairaland. we're making euros out here while you stay begging for male attention online since you get none in real life. weirdo

toba
Posts: 4557
     

*smh @ you spending all that time to modify your last post; you might have not slept well last night. go out and get some fresh air. freak

toba:
Don't just leave like. U have once again said some nasty things that needs to be responded to.
I say i t clearly that i dare u 100 times to counter any of the claims i have made or will make. I'm confident go ahead, i will respond to u word to word.

it's word for word not word to word. dunce

i see you obviously want us to derail the thread cos this forum is your life and you want to fight for your e-reputation so your online boyfriends don't see you for who you really are. kpele

Mudley313:
i see you dodged my question of the imaginary countries you visited with your imaginary so-called ecowas passport. and while you're at it, what discipline did you major in? the way you murder the english language you must have been talking of your learnings at akara school

after dodging my questions above you want to come and knack teeth now, and ofcourse you don't take this online thing seriously

Just try it. Remember when u got banned, u immediately started a new topic with a new user name mudley312 pleading&begging to be pardoned no? So who between us doesn't have a life outside NL.

says the guy with over 4,000 posts 

toba
Posts: 4557
   

toba:
I was really angry and in haste to respond to u,

smh @ you getting your feelings hurt over mere words on a screen on an anonymous online forum. the truth hurts huh?

daylae:
"Why did God have to kill is son?"
Even though the question itself is wrong,cus God didn't kill his son;but i'll take it you're trying to say. "Why did God allowed his son to die? Isn't there any other way? Can't an individual simply live a good life? If God is such a loving God,then wouldn't he accept all people just the way they are? Aren't there other ways also to a relationship with him?"
A misunderstanding of the basic nature and character of God has been the cause to so much theological and ethical problems. Apart from love, holiness,justice,and righteousness is also true of God's nature. When he said the wages of sin is death,he is simply just being himself because he abhors sin. But he had to do something when man had fallen,and that proves his loving nature.

Another thing we fail to understand is that when God said he has forgiving us,that doesn't mean a price won't be paid,cus for every act of forgiveness there is always a price to pay. For example let say a child breaks a lamp in a home,but the father who is a loving and forgiving dad say,"don't cry honey. Daddy loves you and forgive you." But then, who pays for the lamp? Even though the father forgave,the fact is the dad paid for the lamp. Which in this case, christ paid the price to uphold God's justice and righteousness,and at the same time,victory was made through his death.

A judge preciding a case that involves his son,over a punishable crime cannot just say,"because he's my son and i love him,he is free to go." Won't there be questions asked about his integrity? The least the judge could do in such a case is taking his place;cus the price just must be paid;else justice would be murdered.

makes perfect sense

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JeSoul:
I think fanatical christians in here take topics way too seriously instead of the cheerful chiding and play on words I believe Enigma intended. Sometimes my fellow e-christians need to stop and take a deep breath and learn to laugh at a topic - even if it is[b] with[/b] a non-christian.

^^^corrected

@ toba. even though you're still taking your usual meaningless/christianly personal jabs at me because i exposed and got your feelings hurt, i will ignore you for now. you're lucky your fellow christian jesoul came to rescue you from the imminent exposure of your fraudulent claims of an imaginary offline identity. i know you probably would have commited suicide if you got banned since nairaland is your life, but lets just leave it at that for now

toba:
@mudley, u are in pepper soul. My post have be eaten up, thanks to you.
U see  pple have been following this thread. I told u to always be calm but u wouldn't listen. See what u have caused now

see grammar of self-acclaimed PHD holder

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i see you dodged my question of the imaginary countries you visited with your imaginary so-called ecowas passport. and while you're at it, what discipline did you major in? the way you murder the english language you must have been talking of your learnings at akara school

anyways, let's go back to the topic (like "civilizes" people, according to you). my opinion about the actions of the atheist is that it's wrong and it wont be any different if he was muslim, catholic or jew. happy now?

kola oloye:
This is not a true church of God.

so, which one now is a true church of god? the catholics who slaughtered millions of non-catholics, jews, muslims, and arians during their crusades and inquisitions? the lutherans who did the same with millions of jews and catholics? the english anglican church who did the same with thousands of scots and puritans? or today's money hungry 419 faith healing prosperity gospel peddlers?

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=534613.msg7016203#msg7016203 date=1288085775]It easy to see that you live at the mercy of the evil one. You believe in your physical eyes, hence your comments are based on the senses! However, we have a different mind set to folks like you. For al I know, folks like you have no foundation, hence you won't stay long on this terrain called Nigeria. As for your proof that prayer works, you are not the first to ask this questions and you may not be the last ask this question. I would have bothered answering you more specifically, but reading your post, I sense you have already sold your soul to the devil and your eyes of undrstanding has been daken by him. So rather than waste my time giving you specifics, I would pray the father that through the holy ghost, that your eyes of understanding be flooded with lights. I HAVE THE LIGHT, BUT YOU WALLOW IN DARKNESS,  SO I WILL GIVE YOU MY LIGHT THAT YOU MAY SEE. My prayer is that may your days of ignorance not outlive your days to live here on earth, that that light of Gods word may shine soon in your hearts.[/quote]

what has fraudulent activities got to do with being atheist, muslim or christian. i just tried to point out the hypocrisy of your post with a long list of examples of the holy spirit filled men of gawd engaged in even worse. you guys are taking this internet war of beliefs and non-beliefs to mentally deranged levels. joblessness is a disease

lagerwhenindoubt:
1: Take it home (Do not wash it)
2: Take it to a quiet place preferably a Shrine (Not to be confused with Juju-Shrine) Catholics know what i mean
3: Pray?Meditate on your needs and ask God to fulfill them
4: Eat the Apple

At this point i had to be held down by my friend to stop me from raising my hands (Class-room Style) to ask questions. 

the last line of your post had me https://chatroulettegifs.com/black_guys_laughing.gif
but seriously though, the christian religion is nothing but (or rather, has alway been) a farce. same sh1t; just different package. check out this video below and wonder what the hell these people (the deluded followers) be thinking


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWM5D9UVF4Q

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=534613.msg7013661#msg7013661 date=1288044054]YOUR ARE EVEN AN OUTSIDER, PLEASE COME IN BEFORE THE DOOR IS SHUT AGAINST YOU- A BLIND MAN CAN NOT CLAIM TO HAVE SIGHT, YOU CALL THAT FALLACY! You know not what you are talking about, so I will first say, join the fold and learn the basis then come back here and comment on topics like this.

And FYI your claim of SC countries being rich is just as frivolous as your entire post itself. A house bult on a sandy foundation can not stand the test of the wind and waters. Are you watching what is hapening to them already?[/quote]mehn, sharrraap there. outsider ko, insider ni. first answer my questions goddamnit. there's a church in every corner in naija with people praying, speaking in tongues, binding and casting on the regular but things are getting even worse. how much more of a proof that praying to an imaginary jewish man up in the sky called yahweh, in the name of his son/himself, the jewish carpenter yeshua who was killed like a common criminal 2000 yrs ago, aint doing jack. bring out your proof that prayer is working or works instead of yapping opata. deluded goat

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=534613.msg7006543#msg7006543 date=1287951170]I know you have not the fear of God in your heart, hence the comment you made in your post. Yes the prayer points may not have been presented the way it really ought to have been, to imply in your comments that prayers are not effectual is very untrue. Yes we will use our hands to bring about change in Nigeria, but we will FIRST take over Nigeria in our hearts through prayers, least our work of change being in vein! FYI every nation has a purpose in God's plan and the purpose of every nation in God's agenda is never the same. You look at those western nations with riches and you think they made it with their own hands! But He (God) that sits in the heavens shall laugh at the folly of men, for wealth (riches) cometh not from the east, north, south or west, neither from the mountains cometh wealth but from Him alone God! For the blessings of God maketh rich and adds no sorrow![/quote]Blah! Blah!! Blah!!!

scandinavians are one of the most atheist but more successful regions; nigerians have churches in every corner praying night and day and all they got is corruption, and poverty in the midst of plenty. saudi arabia, UAE, kuwait are all muslim nations doing far better than nigeria; china is mostly buddhist but they're turning out to be one of the worlds economic power. hardwork propelled them not no silly prayer to an imaginary friend up the sky

prayer is actually detrimental, because it is possible to hope and expect spiritual intervention when the best option is to stare reality in the face and do the rational thing.

according to you christians, god does answer prayers but the answer will be one of 3 options - Yes, No or Wait. Basically, you could pray to your dog and the results would be exactly the same.

i think he's talking bout this guy here>>>>>>>>>>>

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alexleo:
@lagerwhenindoubt,
you dont understand what you are saying. Do you understand the ordinary meaning of that word 'brother'? It is used for a male child of the same parents or someone of the same religous group etc.
An atheist cannot be refered to as my brother because the bible says that whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin, whosoever commit sin is of the devil. And the same bible also in another portion tells us that we are children of light. And that light and darkness has no part. Read your bible well.
When i say that somebody who doesnt fall into any these difinition of brother for me is not my brother that is what it is.
We hear in the news often of brothers of the same parents killing each other so when some people here are saying that religion makes somebody to kill his fellow human being because he doesnt see him as his brother i consider it a foolish talk.

i guess "love thy neighbor as thyself" translate to you as love only my fellow christians. deluded goat. i see you're too dumb to see why i advised you to just quit posting here earlier on: you're giving christianity a bad name, making a complete fool out of your useless self and embarrassing the hell out of your useless god

and mr. man. what happened to you and your never-can-do-more-than-a-dead-rat god in the challenge you threw on his behalf. it's been more than 5 months now and everyone is still wondering what happened to all of your initial boasts and why your non-existent god pulled a no-show. i guess we all know why: HE/SHE/IT DOES NOT EXIST

a quick reminder (in your own words unedited)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

alexleo: A Chalenge For Huxley,kay 17,ogaga4luv And Other Atheists And Satanists
« on: May 13, 2010, 09:33 PM »

For long we have witnessed a long argument between those of us who are serving God and those who claim that there is NO God. Now lets simplify this matter now and settle it once and for all. I hereby challenge all those atheists and satanist who say that there is no God to do just this one thing if they are 100 percent sure of their stand.
If you are sure that your stand is right then say this- GOD IF YOU EXIST AS THE CHRISTIANS WANT US TO BELIEVE , THEN LET ME BE BLIND FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS FROM NOW. Make sure you write it here so that all of us can see that you actually said it.

I pray God to respond to you immediately so that you may know that he truly exist. That you may know that the earth is the Lords' and its fulness thereof. That you may know that he reigns all over the earth and that he so love the world that he gave his only beggotten son that whosoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life and that you will turn to him and worship and serve him in spirit and in truth. That you may also spread the testimony of his supreme existance here and yonder In Jesus name I pray. AMEN. He is the God of the whole universe, without him was not anything made that was made. He is our creator. He is my life and my salvation. I love God. May God give you this experience that you may serve him and make heaven at last, in Jesus name I pray.

pls note, this is not a joke. lets settle this matter once and for all. All the glory goes to no other person than the Holy Trinity now and forever more. AMEN.
The floor is now open for those of you who are sure in their believe that God does not exist to respond accordingly. Failure to do so will only mean that you truly know that God exists but you dont want to acknowledge it. DECEIVING YOUR OWN SELVES.

according to the last bolded line of yours, i guess the MATTER HAS NOW BEEN SETTLED ONCE AND FOR ALL even though your lying hypocritical intolerant deluded self will stubbornly disagree

smh. and all this is coming from someone who freely refers to others as being foolish

toba:
This is really an ungodly act by the godless soul.

And below is a long list of godly acts by godly souls for you hypocritical souls to salivate over; whatever the lame intentions this thread is trying to convey

Aimee Semple McPherson, 1920s–40s

One of the most famous evangelist scandals involved Canadian-born Aimee Semple McPherson in the 1920s, who allegedly had an extramarital relationship and faked her own death as a cover. She later claimed that she had been kidnapped, but a grand jury could neither prove that a kidnapping occurred, nor that she had faked it. Roberta Semple Salter, her daughter from her first marriage, became estranged from Semple McPherson and successfully sued her mother's attorney for slander during the 1930s. As a result of this she was cut out of her mother's will. Aimee Semple McPherson died in 1944 from an accidental overdose of barbiturates.

Lonnie Frisbee, 1970s–1980s

Lonnie Frisbee was an American closeted gay Pentecostal evangelist and self-described "seeing prophet" in the late 1960s and 1970s who despite his "hippie" appearance had notable success as a minister and evangelist. Frisbee was a key figure in the Jesus Movement and was involved in the rise of two worldwide denominations (Calvary Chapel and the Vineyard Movement). Both churches later disowned him because of his active homosexuality, removing him first from leadership positions, then ultimately firing him. He eventually died from AIDS in 1993.

Billy James Hargis, early 1970s

Hargis was a prolific author and radio evangelist. Hargis formed American Christian College in 1971 in order to teach fundamentalist Christian principles. However, a sex scandal erupted at the College, involving claims that Hargis had had sex with male and female students. Hargis was forced out of American Christian College's presidency as a result. Further scandals erupted when members of Hargis' youth choir, the "All American Kids", accused Hargis of sexual misconduct as well. The college eventually closed down in the mid-1970s. Hargis denied the allegations publicly.

Marjoe Gortner, early 1970s

Gortner rose to fame in the late 1940s as a child preacher, but he had simply been trained to do this by his parents and he had no personal faith. He was able to perform "miracles" and received large amounts of money in donations. After suffering a crisis of conscience, he invited a film crew to accompany him on a final preaching tour. The resulting film, Marjoe, mixes footage of revival meetings with Gortner's explanations of how evangelists manipulate their audiences. It won the 1972 Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature, but was never screened in the Southern United States due to fears that it would cause outrage in the Bible Belt.

Jim & Tammy Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart, 1986 and 1991

In 1986, evangelist Jimmy Swaggart began on-screen attacks against fellow televangelists Marvin Gorman and Jim Bakker. He uncovered Gorman's affair with a member of Gorman's congregation, and also helped expose Bakker's infidelity (which was arranged by a colleague while on an out-of-state trip).These exposures received widespread media coverage. Gorman retaliated in kind by hiring a private investigator to uncover Swaggart's own adulterous indiscretions with a love-peddler. Swaggart was subsequently forced to step down from his pulpit for a year and made a tearful televised apology in February 1988 to his congregation, saying "I have sinned against you, my Lord, and I would ask that your precious blood would wash and cleanse every stain until it is in the seas of God's forgiveness."

Swaggart was caught again by California police three years later in 1991 with another love-peddler, Rosemary Garcia, who was riding with him in his car when he was stopped for driving on the wrong side of the road. When asked why she was with Swaggart, she replied, "He asked me for sex. I mean, that's why he stopped me. That's what I do. I'm a love-peddler."

Peter Popoff, 1987

A self-proclaimed prophet and faith healer in the 1980s, Popoff's ministry went bankrupt in 1987 after magician and skeptic James Randi and Steve Shaw debunked his methods by showing that instead of receiving information about audience members from supernatural sources, he received it through an in-ear receiver.

Morris Cerullo, 1990s

A number of incidents involving California-based televangelist Morris Cerullo caused outrage in the United Kingdom during the 1990s. Cerullo's claims of faith healing were the focus of particular concern. At a London crusade in 1992, he pronounced a child cancer sufferer to be healed, yet the girl died two months later. Multiple complaints were upheld against satellite television channels transmitting Cerullo's claims of faith-healing, and a panel of doctors concluded that Cerullo's claims of miraculous healing powers could not be substantiated. Cerullo also produced fund-raising material, which was condemned as unethical by a number of religious leaders, as it implied that giving money to his organisation would result in family members becoming Christians.[9]

Mike Warnke, 1991

Warnke was a popular Christian evangelist and comedian during the 1970s and 1980s. He claimed in his autobiography, The Satan Seller (1973), that he had once been deeply involved in a Satanic cult and was a Satanic priest before converting to Christianity. In 1991, Cornerstone magazine launched an investigation into Warnke's life and testimony. It investigated Warnke's life, from interviews with over one hundred personal friends and acquaintances, to his ministry's tax receipts. Its investigation turned up damaging evidence of fraud and deceit. The investigation also revealed the unflattering circumstances surrounding Warnke's multiple marriages, affairs, and divorces. Most critically, however, the investigation showed how Warnke could not possibly have done the many things he claimed to have done throughout his nine-month tenure as a Satanist, much less become a drug-addicted dealer or become a Satanic high priest.

Robert Tilton, 1991

Tilton is an American televangelist who achieved notoriety in the 1980s and early 1990s through his paid television program Success-N-Life. At its peak, it aired in all 235 American TV markets. In 1991, Diane Sawyer and ABC News conducted an investigation of Tilton. The investigation, broadcast on ABC's Primetime Live on November 21, 1991, found that Tilton's ministry threw away prayer requests without reading them, keeping only the money or valuables sent to them by viewers, garnering his ministry an estimated $80 million USD a year. In the original investigation, one of Tilton's former prayer hotline operators claimed that the ministry cared little for desperate followers who called for prayer, saying that Tilton had a computer installed in July 1989 to make sure that the phone operators were off the line in seven minutes. Tilton sued ABC for libel in 1992, but the case was dismissed in 1993, and Tilton's show was off the air by October 30, 1993.

W. V. Grant, 1996 and 2003

Like Peter Popoff, Grant was investigated by James Randi regarding his faith healing claims. He was then imprisoned for tax evasion in 1996. After restarting his ministry upon release, a TV investigation found that claims of healing he made at a 2003 revival in Atlanta were false.

Bob Moorehead, 1998

Moorehead, pastor of the Overlake Christian Church from the 1970s to June, 1998 was arrested in July, 1996 on a charge of indecent exposure in a public restroom in Daytona Beach, Florida. He stepped down amid allegations of molestation of adult members during baptism and wedding ceremonies that went back up to 20 years earlier.

Roy Clements, 1999

Clements was a prominent figure within British evangelical christianity. In 1999, he revealed he was in a homosexual relationship with another man, resigned his pastorship, and separated from his wife. He had written a number of well-received books which were withdrawn from sale when the news broke.

John Paulk, 2000

John Paulk (no relation to Earl Paulk) is a former leader of Focus on the Family's Love Won Out conference and former chairman of the board for Exodus International North America. His claimed shedding of homosexuality is also the subject of his autobiography Not Afraid to Change. In September 2000, Paulk was found and photographed in a Washington, D.C. gay bar, and accused by opponents of flirting with male patrons at the bar. Later questioned by gay rights activist Wayne Besen, Paulk denied being in the bar despite photographic proof to the contrary. Initially, FoF's Dr. James Dobson sided with Paulk and supported his claims. Subsequently, Paulk, who himself had written about his habit of lying while he openly lived as a homosexual, confessed to being in the bar, but claimed he entered the establishment for reasons other than sexual pursuits. Paulk retained his Board seat for Exodus, however he did so while on probation. Paulk did not run again for chairman of the board of Exodus when his term expired.

Paul Crouch, 2004

Paul Crouch is the founder and president of the Trinity Broadcasting Network, or TBN, the world's largest evangelical Christian television network, as well as the former host of TBN's flagship variety show, Praise the Lord. In September 2004, the Los Angeles Times published a series of articles raising questions about the fundraising practices and financial transparency of TBN, as well as the allegations of a former ministry employee, Enoch Lonnie Ford, that he had a homosexual affair with Crouch during the 1990s. The Times spoke with several sources that claimed that other evangelists such as Benny Hinn, Jack Hayford, and Paul's son Matthew were aware that an affair had taken place. TBN denied the allegations, claiming that Ford's claims were part of an extortion scheme and that the Times was a "left-wing and anti-Christian newspaper" for publishing the articles. In 2005, Ford submitted to and passed a lie detector test on the ION Television program Lie Detector.

Douglas Goodman, 2004

Douglas Goodman, an evangelical preacher, and his wife Erica were pastors of Victory Christian Centre in London, England. The church was one of the largest in the United Kingdom. He came into notoriety when he was jailed for three and a half years for the sexual assault of four members of his congregation in 2004. VCC was closed by the Charity Commission, but his wife Erica started a new church, Victory to Victory, in Wembley. Douglas has upon his release resumed full pastoral ministry alongside his wife.

Kent Hovind, 2006

Kent Hovind is an American Baptist minister and Young Earth creationist. He is most famous for creation science seminars, in which he argues for Young Earth creationism, using his self-formulated "Hovind Theory." He has been criticized by both the mainstream scientific community and other creationists. In 2006, Hovind who also has a reputation as a tax protestor had been charged with falsely declaring bankruptcy, making threats against federal officials, filing false complaints, failing to get necessary building permits, and various tax-related charges. He was convicted of 58 federal tax offenses and related charges, for which he is currently serving a ten-year sentence.

Ted Haggard, 2006

Ted Haggard was the pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado and was the president of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) from 2003 until November 2006. Haggard's position allowed him occasional access to President George W. Bush. In 2006 it was alleged that Haggard had been regularly visiting a male love-peddler who also provided him with methamphetamine. Haggard admitted his wrongdoing and resigned as pastor of New Life church and as president of the NAE. The high-profile case was significant also because it immediately preceded the 2006 mid-term elections and may have even affected national voting patterns[citation needed]. In January 2009, Haggard admitted to a second homosexual relationship with a male church member on CNN-TV and other national media, and when asked, would not directly answer a question about his other possible homosexual relationships.

Paul Barnes, 2006

Paul Barnes is the founder and former senior minister of the evangelical church Grace Chapel in Douglas County, Colorado. He confessed his homosexual activity to the church board, and his resignation was accepted on December 7, 2006. He started the church in his basement and watched it reach a membership of 2,100 in his 28 years of leadership. This scandal was notable because it was similar to Ted Haggard's (above), it occurred in the same state (Colorado) and around the same time (late 2006).

Lonnie Latham, 2006

In 2006, Latham, the senior pastor of South Tulsa Baptist Church and a member of the powerful Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee, was arrested for "offering to engage in an act of lewdness" with a male undercover police officer.

Gilbert Deya, 2006

Kenyan-born Deya moved to the United Kingdom in the 1990s and started a number of churches. He claims to have supernatural powers that allow him to make infertile women become pregnant and give birth. However, police investigations in the UK and Kenya concluded that Deya and his wife were stealing Kenyan babies. Deya was arrested in London during December 2006 and as of April 2010 he is currently fighting extradition to Kenya.[21]

Richard Roberts, 2007

In October 2007, televangelist Richard Roberts (son of the late televangelist Oral Roberts), was president of Oral Roberts University until his forced resignation on November 23, 2007. Roberts was named as a defendant in a lawsuit alleging improper use of university funds for political and personal purposes and improper use of university resources.[22]

Earl Paulk, 2007

Earl Paulk (no relation to John Paulk) was the founder and head pastor of Chapel Hill Harvester Church in Decatur, Georgia from 1960 until the 1990s. A number of women from the congregation came forward during the 1990s claiming that Paulk had sexual relations with them. Some of these claims have subsequently been proven correct. Moreover, Donnie Earl Paulk, the current senior pastor of the church and nephew of Earl Paulk, had a court-ordered DNA test in 2007 which showed that he was Earl's son, not his nephew, which means that Earl and his sister-in-law had had a sexual relationship which led to Donnie's birth.

Coy Privette, 2007

Privette is a Baptist pastor, conservative activist, and politician in the U.S. state of North Carolina. Privette was president of the Christian Action League and a prominent figure in North Carolina moral battles. In 2007, Privette resigned as president of North Carolina's Christian Action League and from the Board of Directors of the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina, following revelations on July 19 that he had been charged with six counts of aiding and abetting prostitution.[24]

Thomas Wesley Weeks, III, 2007

Weeks married fellow evangelist Juanita Bynum in 2002, but they separated in May 2007. In August 2007, Weeks physically assaulted Bynum in a hotel parking lot and was convicted of the crime in March 2008. The couple divorced in June 2008 and Weeks remarried in October 2009.

Michael Reid, 2008

Bishop Michael Reid (born 1944) is a Christian evangelist in Essex, England and founder of Michael Reid Ministries who resigned from the role of pastor at Peniel Church in April 2008, after admitting to an eight-year extra-marital sexual relationship. The scandal was widely reported online and in UK newspapers.He has since re-developed an itinerant evangelistic ministry and has been speaking at a number of churches in the UK and overseas.

Joe Barron, 2008

Joe Barron, one of the 40 ministers at Prestonwood Baptist Church, one of the largest churches in the United States with 26,000 members, was arrested on May 15, 2008 for solicitation of a minor after driving from the Dallas area to Bryan, Texas, in order to allegedly engage in sexual relations with what he thought to be a 13 year-old girl he had met online. The "girl" turned out to be an undercover law enforcement official.

Todd Bentley, 2008

Canadian Todd Bentley rose to prominence as the evangelist at the Lakeland Revival in Florida, which began in April 2008. Bentley claimed that tens of thousands of people were healed at the revival, but a June 2008 investigation by ABC Nightline could not find a single confirmed case. Bentley took a short break after the program was broadcast, but returned to leading the meetings. However, in August 2008, he stepped down permanently when it was revealed he was separating from his wife, Shonnah, and was in a relationship with Jessa Hasbrook, a member of his staff.

Tony Alamo, 2008

On September 20, 2008, FBI agents raided Tony Alamo Christian Ministries headquarters as part of a child indecency investigation. This investigation involved allegations of physical abuse, sexual abuse and allegations of polygamy and underage marriage. According to Terry Purvis, mayor of Fouke, Arkansas, his office has received complaints from former ministry members about allegations of child abuse, sexual abuse and polygamy since the ministry established itself in the area, and in turn, Purvis turned over information about the allegations to the FBI. Investigators at the scene plan to conduct a search of ministry headquarters and the home of Alamo and interview children present on the compound. In late July 2009, Alamo (who had a previous conviction for tax evasion in the 1990s) was convicted on ten counts of transporting minors across state lines for sexual purposes, sexual assault and other crimes. On November 13, 2009, he was sentenced to the maximum punishment of 175 years in prison.

George Alan Rekers, 2010

Penn Bullock and Brandon K. Thorp of the Miami New Times reported on May 4, 2010, that on April 13, 2010, George Alan Rekers, a far-right Christian leader was encountered and photographed at Miami International Airport returning from an extended overseas trip with a twenty-year-old "rent boy", or gay male love-peddler, known as "Lucien" (later identified as Jo-Vanni Roman). Given his opinion on homosexuals and homosexual behavior, the scandal surrounds Rekers' decision to employ a homosexual escort as a traveling companion, and how that runs contrary to Rekers' public stances on such issues.

Rekers claimed that Lucien was there to help carry Rekers' luggage as Rekers had allegedly had recent surgery, yet Rekers was seen carrying his own luggage when he and Lucien were spotted at the airport.[40] On his blog, Rekers denied having sex with the man.[41] In subsequent interviews, Roman said Rekers had paid him to provide unclothed massages daily, which included focal place touching.

Eddie L. Long, 2010

In September 2010 several civil complaints were filed against Eddie L. Long by men that stated Mr. Long used his position as the church leader to entice or coerce the men into consensual sexual relationships in exchange for money, travel and goods. At a press event on September 26, 2010 Mr. Long stated he would fight the civil complaints in court and would not comment on the allegations.

Robert Schuller, Crystal Cathedral Bankruptcy, 2010

In 2010 debtors began filing claims in court to receive payment due on accounts. The debtors provided goods, services and TV air time to the Crystal Cathedral. The total debt of the church is approximately $55 million. The church filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on October 18, 2010

Enigma:
Typical of an atheist mumu.

is laughing at the downfall of others (because they don't believe in what you believe) and using insultive words on people who disagree with you now one of the tenets of christianity? see what religious extremism can do to one; actually become totally hypocritical to the teachings you're trying to defend. most of you guys are lucky your gods fiery torture chamber aka hellfire does not exist like his azz, if not, most of you would have been doomed to spend eternity there as well
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lagerwhenindoubt:
OMG!!! Oh MY FCUKIN GOD!!! 

Please tell me not all Christians are like Mr. alexleo. if so we are indeed in the ENDTIMES foretold. how can you a whole zealot for Christ maligned the Bible so viciously for the sake of your argument  Every human is your brother (lost as they may be) in-case you have forgotten

why do you think religious fanaticism leads humans to the point of murdering people of a different religious faith in the name of their god even if they're from the same country, region, or ethnic background, even the same bloodline (e.g. the catholics and protestants in ireland, the serbian crisis, the jos crisis etc). It's this same mentality. religion really is a poison to society; millions have been massacred in it's name by zealots like this deluded alexleo dude who was crying on his god to blind people who test his non-existent azz but failed woefully due to the obvious

smh @ you running to edit your earlier post in order to look cool to strangers on the internet. immature loser

well, two can play that game. help me complete this sentence in your next post

"your are. . ."

LouisThoro:
^^^^^
You are[b] mad.[/b]

You are a goat  of a person, you this imb.ecile./

Where did i state that i am the copyright owner?

Some dogs are realy very annoying. I.diot.

Go and read more on the meaning of plagiarism, mo ther fu cker.


I guess the picture on your profile was drawn by you and not stolen from somewhere?

Where did i ascribe this question to myself?

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why are you getting your panties up in a bunch over being busted for plagiarizing stealing ideas and and pretending to pass it off as yours. cool down bro, its just the internet. using swear words and personal insults against faceless people over the internet doesn't make you cool or any less of a loser

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RemKen:
• Should cause to die all that will not allow Nigerians enter into their Jubilee.

   

is this suppose to be a "christian" prayer, or some voodoo invocation? naija modern day so-called christianity sha; i hail thee

you think say na prayer get all the successful nations of today where they at? upon all the binding and casting going on in naija today things are even getting worse. you can chant and holla all you want to an invisible bearded man up the sky but only practical hard work gets the job done

LouisThoro:
I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

dude stop stealing questions from other forums and copying and pasting them word for word here. try and be more creative

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

it's quite evident you stole question 5 here word for word. it's called plagiarism


well, in the long run, ofcourse some of these questions are rather light hearted but still all are pretty much very legitimate questions. perhaps some spirit filled, holy ghost led born again christian care to answer?

i'm with penn and teller on this one
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alexleo:
@mudley313
Everyone who is angry with his brother,  Sorry you are not my brother. It is only those who are geuinely born in christ here that are my brothers. You are an atheist heading down the highway of hell.
Again the greatest foolishness is when someone who claims there is no God comes into a section where people who worship God discuss. And to worsen your foolishness you said i should stop posting. It is you that should stop coming to religious section if you are wise enough as you think. The other time you were banned and you went begging on this section yet your brain tells you there is no God.
I wont reply you on this issue again. If you like keep posting foolishly.

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mr. alexleo. come and defend your thread and the shameless loss of the challenge you put up

alexleo:
How foolish some atheists reason. What has God not shown you that you did not dismiss with one silly reason? Even if God made any of you blind, you people would have used one biological terms to dismiss it in your usual foolishness. I still challenge you with banom who was an atheists and later repented here. What did you do you with his testimony here? You people responded in your usual foolish way.  How many times have you argued with people here and not any of you could give a good prove that there is no God. Davidylan and others has taken you people up several times and you failed woefully in your foolish belief. Anyway you have read this message like I said and whatever you like do with it. At the other side of life you will see the consequences of your action. I dont engage in foolish arguments with foolish atheists.

(Matthew 5:22) - "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell."

i guess you too are going to be spending eternity in the same imaginary maggot riddled fiery torture chamber of your non-existent god you're trying to warn people about. you still are yet to give a genuine explanation on why your powerless god lost a simple challenge to ordinary people on nairaland. deluded goat

How many times have you argued with people here and not any of you could give a good prove that there is no God.

this is so silly. can you yourself proove that there is no santa clause, or there is no spaghetti monster or there is no easter bunny, or no allah, zeus or olodumare. you just a dumbcunt and i'd advice you to pls stop making threads here and making a spectacle of your non-existent god and a complete fool out of your overly deluded self


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the reason naija men don't wash their hands after using the toilet is because they usually wash/clean their manliness real good when they take their baths in the morning that they don't need to wash their hands after touching it. so females, dont be scurrrred

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so, you now want to subject us to yet another endless my-god-is-better-than-your-god banter; i thought there was a thread already on who's the strongest amongst both these comic religious super-heroes figures: one jewish; one arabian. okay, make una go ahead. gbagaun!


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it's subjective

in nigeria, it wont raise no eyebrows

in america. . .HELL NO!

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why do you (and your all loving god) have to go resort to scaring people in order to win converts for your god? first it was the threat of blindness, now this. you and your god failed woefully in the first challenge, i wonder why you think anyone would now take you and your non-existent god any more seriously, after your god pulled a no-show the last time

instead of all this unecessarily complicated scare tactics of showing a select few the anguish that takes place in his imaginary torture chamber (or threatening blindness) to those who don't believe in his existence, why don't your all-powerfull, all-knowledgable god just take the simplest of routes by showing himself up, making a public announcement of his existence to all and sundry or just using the clouds to write something, atleast something simpler and less complicated for his all-powerful, all-knowledgable self, but no, he got to take the sneaky route, in as much as he's so obsessed with people believing in him

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aletheia:
Here's a thought: Imagine the dismay, when after the gruelling climb and slog, Science arrives at the summit of the mountain aiming to plant the flag of conquest only to find Faith already sitting at the top waiting to welcome it!

and on top of that mountain could be allah in his paradise of 72 virgins or yahweh with his son/himself yeshua at his right hand side with the rest of the christian folks stroking both their over-bloated egos with eternal praise and worshiping or even people waiting in purgatory or zeus chilling with the other greek gods and goddesses. you guys can put all the spin you want to it but faith (in obviously absurd religious dogmas and beliefs) and reason/rational thought/science/reality are irreconcilably mutually exclusive

Uyi Iredia:
Undoutably undoubtedly silly government >>> you mean

not even half as silly as the corruption riddled sham of a government you guys have in your lawless and semi-failed state back in naija

oh! the so-typical Mudley antics of attacking e-personality instead of tackling the issues raised. stick to the damn 'topic' >>> Will you?

tell that to your fellow e-christian faith defender nuclearboy who derails threads with assumptous personality attacks and namecallings just to make him feel better about his frustrated unable-to-find-a-job self. i've been banned twice already on this forum due to his likes, it's why i try to avoid all these unecessary e-confrontations with losers at life that invariably leads no where

i really want to hear u out >>> why do you think faith and reason are both incompatible ? >>> cuz i think they are CONTIGENTLY compatible (in some cases they are , some times they aren't)

i see you genuinely want to discuss this subject (unlike that Arrow nuclearboy) and would just advice you to concentrate on your studies and possibly take some elective history classes in the course of your studies instead of relying on google and wikipedia in trying to buttress your point cos most times it makes one deviate from the issues at hand (like that your black death insinuation as a cause for intellectual decline during the middle ages). i have already provided you with a few opinions of mine on why faith (based on mostly absurd religious dogmas) and reason cannot be said to be compatible