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 Christianity Etc › Re: What Exactly In Religion Divides Us? by Mudley313: 2:22pm On Sep 11, 2010 |
The key word I am referring to is *Division". What causes the division within religion. The answer is Human beings. In the bible some humans see the statement "Love thy neigbour", and live it. Some see "Eye for an eye and live that also. Different perceptions from the same book. Human factor.i'm surprised to see you tryin to rationalize your irrational and utterly intolerant belief system above after the bolded below: @Jenwitemiyou just helped to buttress the point that its logically impossible for religion (especially the abrahamic faiths) not to be devisive and intolerant (because thats just how they're structured). you dont need to look too far but in your own bible to see instances where "your god" (not just human factors as you're trying to explain) ordered people to loot, r.ape murder women, kids, properties of unbelievers who had just a mere difference in belief or god. christianity itself is the most devisive of them all. protestants believe catholics are commiting the sin of idolatory for their practice of praying before stautues of mary and saints or going against jesus proclamation that no one goes to god except through him by praying through mary; catholics believe that protestants deviated from the right path cos of a confused monk named martin lurther; jehovahs witnesses believe its ludicrous to believe in an eternal burning hell; mormons believe joseph smith was provided the right message and what all yall are currently following has been perverted by man; other christians believe celestial churches are fetish and demonic; some christian believe tithing is wrong and stealing in the name of gawd, some dont; some believe speaking in tongues is divinely inspired some believe it is what it is: pure gibberish; and so on and so forth and this is only with ONE religion |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Burning Of Quran Issue by Mudley313(op): 1:51pm On Sep 11, 2010 |
"No, the real lesson was that mobs of people will react with irrational freakish hysteria to the idea that other people don't believe as they do."And this doesn't just go for religious people, this goes for all kinds of people who feel their beliefs have been disrespected and/or disregarded. "There have been some interesting studies in brainwashing. It has been shown that you're brainwashed when you take on or "introject" an idea that isn't yours, that is someone else's. And the funny thing is that you'll be ready to die for this idea. Isn't that strange? The first test of whether you've been brainwashed and have introjected convictions and beliefs occurs the moment they're attacked. You feel stunned, you react emotionally. That's a pretty good sign - not infallible, but a pretty good sign - that we're dealing with brainwashing. You're ready to die for an idea that never was yours. Terrorists or saints (so called) take on an idea, swallow it whole, and are ready to die for it. It's not easy to listen, especially when you get emotional about an idea." ~ Anthony DeMello |
| Christianity Etc › The Burning Of Quran Issue by Mudley313(op): 1:50pm On Sep 11, 2010 |
the following text is not mine, it's from a biology professor named PZ Myers, who became infamous last year for desecrating a catholic communion wafer, a page from a Koran, and also a page from Darwin's "Origin of Species" just to show that he doesn't give a Bleep http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2, _fire_vs_s.php You know, I'm something of an expert in the public desecration of sacred objects, and I'm seeing the same madness going on right now with Terry Jones and his plan to burn copies of the Koran that I saw in the response to throwing a cracker in the trash — only amplified to a ludicrous degree. People just aren't getting it; they're so blinded by an inappropriate attachment to magic relics that they're missing the real issues. I publicly destroyed a communion wafer once (OK, a few times). There was a simple reason for it: a few Catholics had responded hysterically to a student who didn't swallow a wafer with harrassment and threats, and I was demonstrating that that was not acceptable — religious believers may not demand that non-believers grant the same reverence to their rituals and beliefs that they have. Jones's motivation seems to be more of a fundie head-butt to Moslems while expecting a greater respect for his Bible, but he's still right — Moslems cannot demand that Christians love their doctrines (and vice versa). Now what I expected in the wake of my cracker-killing was that Catholics would be annoyed, but that it would be easily rationalized — I'm an unbeliever, their rituals have no meaning to me, Jesus can't be harmed by some stunt with bread…what I expected was a combination of "tut, tut" and "so what?" and the cleverer Catholics announcing that their faith was too strong to be shaken by a raspberry from an atheist. That's what I expected; it would have put the poor student's actions in context and made people step back from the screaming that was going on. It didn't work out that way. The lesson of that incident wasn't that you can find some jerk somewhere who will disrespect what some group finds holy — that was trivial and uninteresting, and I actually had to ignore many of the elaborate suggestions for cracker disposal sent my way to emphasize the absolute triviality of tossing a cracker/piece of Jesus in the trash. No, the real lesson was that mobs of people will react with irrational freakish hysteria to the idea that other people don't believe as they do. The problem isn't the desecrators. The problem is the people who have an unwarranted sense of privilege, that their beliefs will not be questioned or criticized, ever, by anyone. What I was saying was that it was crazy to believe a cracker turns into Jesus, and what all the outraged Catholics were doing is confirming to an awesome degree just how mad their beliefs were, with their prolonged and excessive outrage. So I'm looking at this recent episode with Terry Jones — a fellow I don't like at all, and I think he's a fanatical goofball — and I see that the serious problem here isn't Jones at all…it's all the lunatics who are insisting that burning the Koran is a major international catastrophe. It's just a frackin' book, people. |
| Music/Radio › Re: New Music: 9ice (Talk I Am Listening - Ruggedman Diss) by Mudley313: 12:39pm On Sep 11, 2010 |
abeg can anybody translate the lyrics? not everyone be yoruba |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Exactly In Religion Divides Us? by Mudley313: 12:19pm On Sep 11, 2010 |
Insert Quotewrong comparison. the difference between difference in tribe and religion is that being igbo does not arrogantly stipulate that those who are yorubas or not ibos are automatically sinners or infidels and will burn in some imaginary burning fire for eternity for being non-ibos; now thats intolerance |
| Politics › Re: What Is Wrong With Patrick Obahaigbon? by Mudley313: 9:22pm On Sep 10, 2010 |
lmao. . .chei, i just spat out my soda on my laptop, didn't see dis one coming; was expecting one of those big big grammer videos of his. dis nigga literally has the belt part of his pants on his chest lmao. . .abeg make una nor kill man wit laffter here o |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Islam, Begat Terrorism In The World by Mudley313: 9:38pm On Sep 09, 2010 |
retarded e-war of words between deluded fanatical worshippers of foreign non-existent god that never can seem to act or speak for themselves for whatever reason |
| Romance › Re: After 3 Years She Tells Me She Doesnt Love Me. by Mudley313: 11:28am On Sep 08, 2010 |
your girl MOST probably found someone else move on guy. such is life. you will find your own someday; atleast u be man |
| Music/Radio › Re: Breaking News: Terry G In Terrible Car Crash! by Mudley313: 11:22am On Sep 08, 2010 |
Goldenmeda:maybe you yourself should be banned for life for murdering the english language |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Too Many Churches, Too Many Fake Christians by Mudley313: 11:16am On Sep 08, 2010 |
imhotep:they are one and the same. countless of lives lost historically and lands of others pillaged in the name of crusades and spreading the gospel, priest sleeping with little boys, and here in naija, kids abused as child witches and ofcourse, the biggest con ever, the money angle; men of gawd reaping their followers blind of hard end cash, living lavishly while their mumu followers wallow in abject poverty |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Quran Burning Day; How Not To Be An Imbecille! by Mudley313: 11:11am On Sep 08, 2010 |
mazaje:how can you even be crying over the burning of a mere |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Odukoya's New Bride Delivers Baby 7 Months After Wedding! by Mudley313: 12:02pm On Sep 07, 2010 |
tatiana009:quit defending hypocrites who use the name of gawd to defraud and make a these guys dupe people koro-koro, is it ordinary fornication that will now be a hard thing for them to commit. keep living in delusion |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Quran Burning Day; How Not To Be An Imbecille! by Mudley313: 11:58am On Sep 07, 2010 |
sharrap there you myopic worshiper of a non-existent arabian deity with despicable followers, welcome to the 21st century were a mere book written by a salvage arab peadophile is is not a cause to go on genocidal rampage, imbec1le |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Ten Things Obama Should Do To Prove That He’s Not A Muslim by Mudley313: 3:14pm On Sep 02, 2010 |
OLAADEGBU:you really are one deranged fellow. hope your white racist masters reward you with fulfilling your life long dream of a lifelong membership in the kkk after all these your tom foolery of an anti-obama e-campaign. good-luck. ewu |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Obama's Unbiblical Declaration by Mudley313: 6:45pm On Sep 01, 2010 |
OLAADEGBU:have you gone to see a psychiatrist yet as earlier adviced? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Ten Things Obama Should Do To Prove That He’s Not A Muslim by Mudley313: 6:39pm On Sep 01, 2010 |
[flash=500,300] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNIQG7WXpSM[/flash] atleast the peeps in this video above suffering from obama derangement syndrome unlike the e-lunatic oladegbu have a reason to; they're WHITE racists angry at having a BLACK man be their president unlike the uncle thomas oladegbu who's BLACK nigerian and just the epitome of the word mumu |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Adventures Of God by Mudley313(op): 7:09pm On Aug 30, 2010 |
vescucci:how has this gotten anything to do with having problems with the bible/christian god? does the fact that u enjoy the intricate plots of likewise fictional characters like batman, robin n gotham city or superman, lex luther n kryptonites means u have a problem with obvious works of fiction? |
| Politics › Re: New Evidence Shows U.s. Role In Congo’s Decision To Send Lumumba To His Death by Mudley313(op): 7:01pm On Aug 30, 2010 |
chyz:um, still sounds like something from a conspracy theorist handbook to me; especially the yaradua piece |
| Politics › Re: New Evidence Shows U.s. Role In Congo’s Decision To Send Lumumba To His Death by Mudley313(op): 5:53pm On Aug 30, 2010 |
chyz:i dunno bout that. . .but the way abiola died in quick succession after abacha's death prior to his release from prison is mostly suspicious |
| Politics › New Evidence Shows U.s. Role In Congo’s Decision To Send Lumumba To His Death by Mudley313(op): 5:04pm On Aug 30, 2010 |
Stephen R. Weissman 1 August 2010 Fifty years ago, the former Belgian Congo received its independence under the democratically elected government of former prime minister Patrice Lumumba. Less than seven months later, Lumumba and two colleagues were, in the contemporary idiom, “rendered” to their Belgian-backed secessionist enemies, who tortured them before putting them before a firing squad. The Congo would not hold another democratic election for 46 years. In 2002, following an extensive parliamentary inquiry, the Belgian government assumed a portion of responsibility for Lumumba’s murder. But controversy has continued to swirl over allegations of U.S. government responsibility, as the reception for Raoul Peck’s acclaimed film, “Lumumba,” demonstrated. After all, the U.S. had at least as much, if not more, influence in the Congolese capital as Belgium. It was the major financier and political supporter of the U.N. peacekeeping force that controlled most of the country. According to still classified documents that I first revealed eight years ago, members of the Central Intelligence Agency’s (CIA) “Project Wizard” covert action program dominated the post-Lumumba Congolese regime. However, a 1975 U.S. Senate investigation of alleged CIA assassinations concluded that while the CIA had earlier plotted to murder Lumumba, he was eventually killed “by Congolese rivals. It does not appear from the evidence that the United States was in any way involved in the killing.” It is now clear that conclusion was wrong. A new analysis of the declassified files of the Senate “Church” Committee (chaired by Democratic Senator Frank Church), CIA and State Department, along with memoirs and interviews of U.S. and Belgian covert operators, establishes that CIA Station Chief Larry Devlin was consulted by his Congolese government “cooperators” about the transfer of Lumumba to sworn enemies, had no objection to it and withheld knowledge from Washington of the impending move, forestalling the strong possibility that the State Department would have intervened to try to save Lumumba. I detail this evidence in a new article in the academic journal, Intelligence and National Security, vol. 25, no. 2 (The full article is available from thepublisher.) Here, briefly, are the most important new findings: - Former U.S. officials who knew Lumumba now acknowledge that the administration of former president Dwight D. Eisenhower mistakenly cast him as a dangerous vehicle of Soviet influence. - Covert CIA actions against the Lumumba government, often dovetailing with Belgian ones, culminated in Colonel Joseph Mobutu’s military coup, which was “arranged and supported and indeed managed” by the CIA alone, according to Devlin’s private interview with the Church Committee staff. - The CIA station and U.S. embassy provided their inexperienced and politically weak Congolese protégés with a steady stream of political and military recommendations. The advice arrived both before Congolese government decisions and shortly afterwards when foreign advisers were invited in to offer feedback. Devlin’s counsel was largely heeded on critical matters, especially when it came to Lumumba. Thus Mobutu and former president Joseph Kasavubu were persuaded to resist political pressures to reconcile with Lumumba, and Mobutu reluctantly acceded to Devlin’s request to arrest him. After both Devlin and the American ambassador intervened, the government dropped its plan to attack U.N. troops guarding Lumumba. And after Lumumba was publicly brutalized by Mobutu’s troops, the U.S. embassy – under pressure from the State Department, which was concerned about African governments’ threats to pull out of the U.N. force – pushed Kasavubu into promising Lumumba “humane treatment” and a “fair trial.” - In this context of U.S. adviser-Congolese leader interactions, Devlin’s decision not to intervene after he was informed by a “government leader” of a plan to send Lumumba to his “sworn enemy” signaled that he had no objection to the government’s course. It was also seen that way by Devlin’s Belgian counterpart, Colonel Louis Marliere, who later wrote, “There was a ‘consensus’ and …no adviser, whether he be Belgian or American, thought to dissuade them.” Considering Congolese leaders’ previous responsiveness to CIA and U.S. embassy views, Devlin’s permissive attitude was undoubtedly a major factor in the government final action. (Its last-minute switch of sending Lumumba to murderous secessionists in Katanga instead of murderous secessionists in South Kasai does not change the crucial fact that Devlin gave a green light to delivering Lumumba to men who had publicly vowed to kill him.) - Furthermore, shortly before the transfer, Mobutu indicated to Devlin that Lumumba “might be executed,” according to a Church Committee interview. Devlin did not suggest that he offered any objection or caution. - Cables show that Devlin did not report to Washington the impending rendition for three days (i.e. until it was already underway), forestalling the strong possibility that the State Department would have intervened to try and protect Lumumba as it had done several weeks earlier. When news came that Lumumba had been flown to Belgian-supported Katanga (but before it became known that he was already dead), a top State Department official called in the Belgian ambassador to complain about Belgian advisers’ possible contribution to the Congolese government’s “gaffe” and to insist upon the need for “humane treatment.” - The Church Committee failed to uncover the full truth about the U.S. role because of its inattention to the covert relationship between the CIA and Congolese decision makers, CIA delays in providing key cables, and political pressure to water down its original draft conclusions. Devlin died in 2008 after consistently denying any knowledge of his Congolese associates’ “true plans” for Lumumba, and maintaining that he had “stalled” the earlier CIA assassination plot. Yet declassified CIA cables disprove his claims. One horrible crime cannot, by itself, change history. But the murder of Patrice Lumumba, the most dynamic political leader the Congo has ever produced, was a critical step in the consolidation of an oppressive regime. At the same time, it crystallized an eventual 35-year U.S. commitment to the perpetuation of that regime, not just against Lumumba’s followers but against all comers. In the end, Mobutu’s kleptocracy would tear civil society apart, destroy the state and help pave the way for a regional war that would kill millions of people. There can no longer be any doubt that the U.S., Belgian and Congolese governments shared major responsibility for the assassination of Lumumba in Katanga. The young prime minister was an imperfect leader during an unprecedented and overwhelming international crisis. But he continues to be honored around the world because he incarnated – if only for a moment – the nationalist and democratic struggle of the entire African continent against a recalcitrant West. If the U.S. government at last publicly acknowledged – and apologized for – its role in this momentous assassination, it would also be communicating its support for the universal principles Lumumba embodied. What better person to take this step than the American president, himself a son of Africa? Stephen R. Weissman is author of “An Extraordinary Rendition,” in Intelligence and National Security, v.25, no.2 (April 2010) and American Foreign Policy in the Congo 1960-1964. He is a former Staff Director of the U.S. House of Representatives’ Subcommittee on Africa. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Adventures Of God by Mudley313(op): 2:26pm On Aug 30, 2010 |
Jenwitemi:https://julieclawson.com/wp-content/superjesus_mark_poutenis.gif |
| Travel › Re: My Experiences In A Uk Immigration Detention Camp by Mudley313: 2:15pm On Aug 30, 2010 |
juzme:you do understand the government has people employed and being paid for carrying out these immigration duties and most time becauses of the huge influx of illegal immigrants and assylum seeking cases there's not enough people to handle such cases and waiting times are prolonged. . .OP should try a chinese deportation detention camp before he starts screaming human rights. . .human right ko, human rights ni. . .have you ever spent a night in a nigerian jail cell before? moral of this story is "get your azz back home and quit whinning". . .this dude even committed a grievious criminal offence of identity theft and somehow was trying to justify it. . .people in naija are there lamenting about the harshness of british consulates; OP is a typical example of why exactly they're that way |
| Christianity Etc › The Adventures Of God by Mudley313(op): 9:51pm On Aug 29, 2010 |
God: Noah, all the people of earth are sinners. You alone are righteous. Noah: Thanks God. Long time fan, first time prophet. God: So, I have decided to smite the entire world with a flood. (pause) Noah: Couldn’t you just teach man goodness? God: No. I’m thinking “flood”. Noah:  So you’d rather just kill every-God: What part of “flood” do you not understand? II God: Moses…I have seen the plight of the Jews in Egypt. Moses: Wow. Only after, uh, 400 years there, right? God: Yes. Moses: Awesome. God: I will take you out of Egypt after ten terrible, terrible plagues. Moses: …ten? God: Is there a problem? Moses: It’s just…ten is a lot. For, you know, God. Couldn’t you get this done in like, two plagues max? God: No. For you see Moses, I will harden Pharaoh’s heart against me. Moses: So…you are going to stop him from letting us free from slavery. God: Yes. Moses: So you can bring more terrible, terrible plagues upon the people. God: Yes. Moses: And you see nothing wrong with this picture? God:  Moses: Are there any other God’s up there I can talk to? III Mary: Did you send the child support? God: Frankincense and myrrh. Yeah. Mary Annnnnd?  God: (sighs). And gold. And the gold. Mary: That’s better. IV Job:  God: Well, this is awkward. V God: Abraham, you must circumcise yourself. Abraham: As you wish, my lord. God: Oh my Me. He’s totally going to do it  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Declaration Of Fasting And Praying For The 33 Miners Trapped In Chile! by Mudley313: 12:39pm On Aug 29, 2010 |
a combination of starvation and fervent blabbering to an imaginary friend will be of not a single help to those trapped miners in far away chile |
| Politics › Re: Will You Be A Black Man A Second Time? by Mudley313: 7:19am On Aug 25, 2010 |
makajibbz:as pointed out by a previous poster, your reading comprehension must have seriously been hampered by the scourching arabian sun; arrant goat herder Brownteeth:so, mr. uncle thomas, the truth, according to your coon-azz logic, is that black people/nigerians in general would rather be white?. . .mehn, go and take care of whatever is affecting your pathetic personal life like a man instead of coming here to ask useless questions eina: tpiah:i see you're also suffering from an identity crisis, smh. . .inferiority complex is really a disease |
| Politics › Re: Will You Be A Black Man A Second Time? by Mudley313: 3:36pm On Aug 24, 2010 |
makajibbz:are you a fool? so, how come i, a blackman of both nigerian parents, and countless other indians, asians, latinos, arabs, etc got one? |
| Politics › Re: Will You Be A Black Man A Second Time? by Mudley313: 1:51pm On Aug 24, 2010 |
makajibbz:https://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv71/mgkmc/GIFS/WTFGaryColeman.gif why the fvck will such a question come to his mind to the point of opening up a thread on nairaland on it if he's not suffering from some serious form of low self-esteem issues. . .n aint you the dude referring to the US passport as white mans passport like we still living in the 30's or sumthin? smh Anyways, I hope threadstarter realizes his uselessness and blows his f.uckin brains out with a desert eagle and the bullet goes through his fish skull and through his room mate who then falls dead over his body thus fulfilling his life long fantasy of dying with another man on top of him. . .ewu |
| Politics › Re: Will You Be A Black Man A Second Time? by Mudley313: 1:34pm On Aug 24, 2010 |
the existence of such a thread at all on nairaland is quite disgraceful and portrays the deep seated inferiority complex affecting the average nigerian. . .i can just imagine a non-nigerian seeing this and laughing in mockery of how kolonially-mental nigerians wanna be white i spit on your worthless thread. . .ewu |
| Politics › Re: Will You Be A Black Man A Second Time? by Mudley313: 5:23pm On Aug 23, 2010 |
violent:^^^^ https://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff329/seabee303/Animated/yapping.gif now, sharrap there you dundee. . .having an accent or being an american citizen has nothing to do with being white (in this day and age atleast). i'm BLACK; american, NIGERIAN and PROUD and wouldn't want it anyother way, skin color wise. i bet if obama had thought the same way as the original poster he wouldn't be occupying the seat he is today now, you and the OP can go hug a tranformer since never in a million years can your ignoramous inferiority complex induced wish of being white be fulfilled. ewu makajibbz:you're free to go the michael jackson route then. id1ot |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Permited Killing by Mudley313: 1:09pm On Aug 23, 2010 |
vedaxcool:who is this confused id1ot. is your god and jesus not suppose to be one and the same? according to you deluded folks. or is it only when u wanna defend the absurdity of the trinity you bring that rubbish up? go to the old testament to see jesus/god's handiwork as it relates to murder and genocide. jesus christ/god was a blood thirsty tyrant as as his islamic counter parts allah the uncivilized arabian desert god and its child molestor/paedophile prophet, muhammed |
| Politics › Re: Will You Be A Black Man A Second Time? by Mudley313: 12:57pm On Aug 23, 2010 |
Brownteeth: Travelista:cosign bolded. life must really be miserable for you at this point for you to come up with such drivel. silly thing is, they're others as miserable as your pathetic self the world over regardless of skin color OP; dont forget to kindly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff329/seabee303/Animated/deathspn.gifyourself, after this rubbish of a thread |
| Politics › Re: Will You Be A Black Man A Second Time? by Mudley313: 12:43pm On Aug 23, 2010 |
clap for yourself for just winning the dumbest poster EVER award https://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff329/seabee303/Animated/applaud.gif THIS IS THE MOST S:TUPID-IGNORANT-INFERIORITY COMPLEX-KOLO MENTALITY STATEMENT OF A THREAD EVER ON NAIRALAND NO WONDER NIGERIANS BACK IN NAIJA TREAT ANYTHING WITH A FAIR SKIN COLOR WITH UNDERDESERVED RESPECT (EVEN ARABS)WHILE THEIR FELLOW BROTHERS ARE BEING TREATED AS SUB-HUMANS ABROAD THREADSTARTER; DO US ALL A HUGE FAVOR AND WALK ACROSS THE FREEWAY WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED FOR EVER THINKING OF CONJURING UP THE THOUGHT OF THIS THREAD |
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