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Christianity Etc › Re: Top 15 Reasons Why I Love Jehovah’switnesses by Mudley313: 10:09am On Nov 04, 2010

even though these guys can be a pain in the butt sometimes and all still a bunch of deluded cult followings, i would take them over the overtly unchrist-like and hypocritical penterascals any day

Christianity Etc › Re: A Preview into Heaven. by Mudley313: 4:30pm On Nov 03, 2010

Heaven is fiction. If it were real, it would be the purest expression of despotism.

or maybe, since the ~~bible~~ book of jewish myths call it a kingdom, i guess it's going to be an absolute theocratic totalitarian dictatorship aka religious fascism; where the bunch of deluded goats are going to be kissing the butt and massaging the overblown ego of their almighty yahweh with praise and worship for eternity. it's going to be like an eternal church service without the offerings,lol

Christianity Etc › Re: Images From The Christian Inquisition by Mudley313: 1:06pm On Nov 03, 2010

chinedumo:
but whatever protestants may have done is nothing to be compared wit the catholic church which is far worse
The protestants acted more in self defense and retaliation
They are not instigators at most
And they all erred
martins doctrine is not perfect and i know
protestant worldwide are major supporters of Israel and her progress

sharrap there. if you don't know anything just ask instead of spewing rubbish due to you guys usual hatred for others with differing beliefs from yours, even those of your own religion. na wah o

protestant didn't act in self-defense; they acted for the same reason the catholics and islamic terrorist act; that the others are heretics (in the case of jihadist, infidels)

calvin broke up with the catholic church, moved to switzerland and started mass persecution of catholics. or was martin luthers hatred for the jews self defense too? the anglican church of england persecuted everyone not anglican, from catholics to puritans to scots to irish. the pilgrims who ran to start america, ran to avoid persecution from the english PROTESTANT church. the despicable acts of slavery was carried out enmasse by these same oh so holy protestants of yours

stop supporting/defending atrocious acts and their perpetrators, whether catholic, protestant or muslim. the christian religion has caused more deaths historically than all the other religions combined. deal with it

Christianity Etc › Re: Rhino.3dm Was Banned! by Mudley313: 11:57pm On Nov 02, 2010

smh @ someone who wrote the rubbish below calling someone a fool. you sure do love the use of the word fool for someone who professes to be a christian

[size=16pt]alexleo (m)
Posts: 274

A Chalenge For Huxley,kay 17,ogaga4luv And Other Atheists And Satanists
« on: May 13, 2010, 09:33 PM »

For long we have witnessed a long argument between those of us who are serving God and those who claim that there is NO God. Now lets simplify this matter now and settle it once and for all. I hereby challenge all those atheists and satanist who say that there is no God to do just this one thing if they are 100 percent sure of their stand.
If you are sure that your stand is right then say this- GOD IF YOU EXIST AS THE CHRISTIANS WANT US TO BELIEVE , THEN LET ME BE BLIND FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS FROM NOW. Make sure you write it here so that all of us can see that you actually said it.

I pray God to respond to you immediately so that you may know that he truly exist. That you may know that the earth is the Lords' and its fulness thereof. That you may know that he reigns all over the earth and that he so love the world that he gave his only beggotten son that whosoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life and that you will turn to him and worship and serve him in spirit and in truth. That you may also spread the testimony of his supreme existance here and yonder In Jesus name I pray. AMEN. He is the God of the whole universe, without him was not anything made that was made. He is our creator. He is my life and my salvation. I love God. May God give you this experience that you may serve him and make heaven at last, in Jesus name I pray.

pls note, this is not a joke. lets settle this matter once and for all. All the glory goes to no other person than the Holy Trinity now and forever more. AMEN.
The floor is now open for those of you who are sure in their believe that God does not exist to respond accordingly. Failure to do so will only mean that you truly know that God exists but you dont want to acknowledge it. DECEIVING YOUR OWN SELVES.[/size]

my friend. it is you who is the FOOL for ever thinking up the rubbish you scribbled above

alexleo:
Ordinarily I wouldnt reply you
your reponse doesnt even scratch me.
i scroll over without reading it because

it is you who is the BIGGER FOOL for even replying after the above quotations

and lastly, it is you and your god that is the BIGGEST OF FOOLS for totally embarrasing yourselves in the above challenge you threw

sorry i don't need your silly replies but i will continue to hound and remind you of that silly challenge of yours until you find the courtesy to provide us with an explanation on why your god pulled a no-show or just accept defeat

Politics › Re: Who Financed Ibb's Coup? by Mudley313: 10:13pm On Nov 02, 2010

kcng:
MY PUNCH LINE IS THAT IBB KNEW MKO WAS JUST AS BAD AS HIM.SO HE DIDT THINK MKO WAS GOOD FOR NIGERIA. THATS WHY HE ALWAYS SAYS HE DID WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS RIGHT FOR THE COUNTRY.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Rhino.3dm Was Banned! by Mudley313: 6:29pm On Nov 02, 2010

alexleo:
Whatever you mean by 'my god'? I have no god. I serve God and I am his child. And if you think that there is anything that you will say here that can make me to leave God or change my mind about this great and mighty Godwho created all things including you, then you are living in a fool's paradise.
Whatever 'god' you and your chronies are talking about is your business.

i think he's talking about this your god below. the one who pulled a no-show in that highly anticipated challenge. remember? or did you switch gods after the god below made a complete fool out of you, himself/herself/itself, and your beliefs?

alexleo (m)
Posts: 274

A Chalenge For Huxley,kay 17,ogaga4luv And Other Atheists And Satanists
« on: May 13, 2010, 09:33 PM »

For long we have witnessed a long argument between those of us who are serving God and those who claim that there is NO God. Now lets simplify this matter now and settle it once and for all. I hereby challenge all those atheists and satanist who say that there is no God to do just this one thing if they are 100 percent sure of their stand.
If you are sure that your stand is right then say this- GOD IF YOU EXIST AS THE CHRISTIANS WANT US TO BELIEVE , THEN LET ME BE BLIND FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS FROM NOW. Make sure you write it here so that all of us can see that you actually said it.

I pray God to respond to you immediately so that you may know that he truly exist. That you may know that the earth is the Lords' and its fulness thereof. That you may know that he reigns all over the earth and that he so love the world that he gave his only beggotten son that whosoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life and that you will turn to him and worship and serve him in spirit and in truth. That you may also spread the testimony of his supreme existance here and yonder In Jesus name I pray. AMEN. He is the God of the whole universe, without him was not anything made that was made. He is our creator. He is my life and my salvation. I love God. May God give you this experience that you may serve him and make heaven at last, in Jesus name I pray.

pls note, this is not a joke. lets settle this matter once and for all. All the glory goes to no other person than the Holy Trinity now and forever more. AMEN.
The floor is now open for those of you who are sure in their believe that God does not exist to respond accordingly. Failure to do so will only mean that you truly know that God exists but you dont want to acknowledge it. DECEIVING YOUR OWN SELVES.

Christianity Etc › Re: Manipulating Mass Psychology. . . I Was In Church On Sunday. . . by Mudley313: 6:00pm On Nov 02, 2010

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Christianity Etc › Re: Images From The Christian Inquisition by Mudley313: 3:04pm On Nov 02, 2010

chinedumo:
i did not say that i dont know what u mentioned above

what i want to hear of is where they were carried out

you can do a google search on that or sumthin. atrocities carried out during the peasant rebellion were inspired by luthers virulent writings against the church and just about every anti-Jewish book printed in the third reich contained references to and quotations from Luther.

Hitler is no christian and chooses whom he wants to influence his life
it is not Martin"s fault

well, unfortunately he chose the poisonous writings of an influential christian german of the christian faith who you're here blindly defending because of religious affiliation, or do you support the anti-semitic writings of luther as well?

Below is a quote from the hitler you claim to not be a christian

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice, And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

there are good thing in Martin why did he not pick those

i bet there're also good things about osama bin laden so we can also ask the suicide bombers why they had to pick the relgious jihadist part

Christianity Etc › Re: Images From The Christian Inquisition by Mudley313: 1:11pm On Nov 02, 2010

chinedumo:
u can as well educate me more on the murdering spree Martin embarked upon of this same magnitude
God bless you @Mudley313

oh, you don't know luther, whom you seem to revere, was a virulent jew hater and a huge influence on hitler

Martin Luther's views on the Jews are described as racial or religious anti-Semitism, Paul Johnson, A History of the Jews (New York: HarperCollins Publishers, 1987), 242. or as anti-Judaism. Uwe Siemon-Netto, "Luther and the Jews." Lutheran Witness 123 (2004) No. 4:19. In his pamphlet Von den Juden und ihren Lügen (On the Jews and their Lies), published in 1543, he wrote that Jews' synagogues should be set on fire, prayerbooks destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes "smashed and destroyed," property seized, money confiscated, and that these "poisonous envenomed worms" be drafted into forced labor or expelled "for all time."

Luther advocated an eight-point plan to get rid of the Jews either by religious conversion or by expulsion:

1. "First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. , "
2. "Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. , "
3. "Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them. , "
4. "Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. , "
5. "Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. , "
6. "Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them. , Such money should now be used in , the following [way], Whenever a Jew is sincerely converted, he should be handed [a certain amount], "
7. "Seventh, I commend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, For it is not fitting that they should let us accursed Goyim toil in the sweat of our faces while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove, feasting and farting, and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants."
8. "If we wish to wash our hands of the Jews' blasphemy and not share in their guilt, we have to part company with them. They must be driven from our country" and "we must drive them out like mad dogs." Luther, On the Jews, 47:268-288, 292.

http://encycl.opentopia.com/term/Martin_Luther_and_the_Jews

Christianity Etc › Re: Can God Make A Mistake? by Mudley313: 2:50am On Nov 02, 2010

^^^and why have that consuming fire god not been able to consume and annihilate the devil all these years?

your god created what you guys deem as the epitome of evil; the guy who caused the fall of gods precious creation, humans; the guy you guys blame for all the ills of society, the devil. if that to you is not one heck of a mistake then i don't know what the hell the definition of a mistake is to you deluded nutjobs

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Rapture Iminent? by Mudley313: 1:36am On Nov 02, 2010

Here's a challenge:

Find reference to the doctrine of the rapture by any Christian prior to the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.

Education › Re: What Is The Key Behind Your Academic Success? by Mudley313: 7:35pm On Nov 01, 2010

when you get to pay for your own education yourself; nobody will have to tell you to buckle up and make the possible best out of your hard earned cash

Christianity Etc › Re: Images From The Christian Inquisition by Mudley313: 4:22pm On Nov 01, 2010

chinedumo:
Today is November the 1st
but yesterday was October the 31st
certain people celebrate Halloween
but certain Christians Choose this day as the Reformation Day

A day to remember the works and sacrifices of heroes (especially that of MARTIN LUTHER, of blessed memory) past to purge the church and redeem the true worship of God
and save the name of God from ridicule and abuse

All(including Catholics who are Christians) should condemn and denounce this evil
that it did not come from God
and was not done of God
and it is against God

know your history mumu. martin luther went on the same murdering spree against catholics and jews. christianity was spread through fear, torture and the barrel of a gun

Christianity Etc › Re: Please Answer This! by Mudley313: 8:08pm On Oct 31, 2010

imhotep:
Still waiting for convincing proof(s) for the non-existence of God.

I have seen only exercises in oratory

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Christianity Etc › Re: Have You Prayed For Nigeria Today? by Mudley313: 10:53am On Oct 30, 2010

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[/quote]^^^lame

back to topic>>>

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Mudley313: 12:23am On Oct 30, 2010

the correct title for this thread should be, "why did god have to kill himself?"

if a god created everything including the afterlife and he/she/it exist everywhere at all times how could he/she/it possibly die when he/she/it is already there (in death/ the other side)? I'm sure if he himself can create himself into his own son and simultaneously watch and exist then he can sacrifice the son self sending that part to a place he already created but since he's omnipresent he was already there so in theory he didn't sacrifice sh1t! if god was able to sacrifice a portion of himself where would it go? . . .where it's already at.

Boy that bible god is a sneaky little devil.

Christianity Etc › Re: Can God Make A Mistake? by Mudley313: 11:18pm On Oct 29, 2010

^^^Was the being that became the Devil created evil?

what are you driving at? since you wanna play answering a question with a question, naija-style, i'd say: how come an all perfect being created something that ended up getting faulty?

Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Really Write The Bible? by Mudley313: 11:10pm On Oct 29, 2010

@ alethia. so just a few vague claims of historical accuracy now automatically makes the bible the word of god? so, can any other texts or books that is historically accurate be attributed to your imaginary god too?

Putting aside all the atrocious morality inherent in the bible, i hope you do realize that the bible was copied, by hand, over and over and over again to get at what we have today. We don't have an original, or a copy of the original, or a copy of a copy of a copy of the original. If you ever played the childrens game 'Telephone', where you start with one sentence and whisper in a circle through 15 or 20 kids and then look at the first and last sentence, they are entirely different. We have the last little kids version of the Bible.

And by the way they're so many historical and scientific inaccuracies in that your bible written by a bunch of ancient megalomaniacs but it'll be foolhardy to try and point them out to one as deluded as yourself. Every rational thinking person knows rabbits don't chew their cud, bats aren't birds, insects have six legs, not four, Pi is NOT 3.0, the stars are not fixed in the sky to a firmament and the earth does not have four corners. To list all of the inaccuracies in the Bible would take a long time. But, for a start, here are at least four hundred: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

Christianity Etc › Re: Can God Make A Mistake? by Mudley313: 10:23pm On Oct 29, 2010

God is Perfect and All-knowing: He does not make mistakes and nothing in Genesis 6:6 suggests that His creation of Man is a mistake.

what about the devil which he created. was that too not a mistake? i mean that similarly mythical adversary of your imaginary god who plotted a failed coup in planet heaven (lol) and has been hounding god's creations eversince. why this all-powerful god cannot even eliminate this much hated enemy of his in one poof is something for another discussion

Christianity Etc › Re: Have You Prayed For Nigeria Today? by Mudley313: 1:29pm On Oct 29, 2010

thweraja10:
God bless you as you continue to pray for Naija

this is exactly what is wrong with nigeria today. there's a church in every corner in nigeria binding, casting and praying their voice hoax to imaginary entities but things continue to get worse cos actions speaks far louder than yelling in vain to an imaginary jewish friend up in the sky to come and save your lazy behind

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Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Really Write The Bible? by Mudley313: 8:38pm On Oct 28, 2010

aletheia:
@Mudley313:
Can I ask you a question? Why do you think it's wrong if God speaks or communicates with us through other humans? And how is communicating with us through humans proof of the non-existence of God.

i dont think there's anything wrong with that or if it prooves his non-existence or not, i just know for it to be the only form of communication an all-powerful entity can afford is kinda weird especially when the gods of everyone else used the same means (communicated through people) cos they just couldn't do it on their own for whatever reason or maybe cos they just don't exist. ever since recorded history man has always invented some form of deity to worship, right from the days of zeus to oduduwa.

MEN CREATED/INVENTED GODS, THAT'S WHY THE ONLY EVIDENCE OF THEIR GOD'S EXISTENCE IS IN THE PAGES OF BOOKS THESE MEN WROTE THEMSELVES

There is a lot out there that proves that the Bible is indeed the Word of God. . .

the only proof that the bible is the word of some god is in the bible itself, just like almost every other religious beliefs. just like your god, they only exist in the pages of religious texts and in the minds of their deluded followers

^^God does not need me to explain/speak for Him;

but that's exactly what you're doing for him right now; that's what all the churches collecting tithes in order to be able to help him spread his word are doing for him now; that's what the writers of the bible did for him too. how come, i, a mere mortal, can speak for myself and write, but an all-powerful god cannot. that's cause he/she/it does not exist. sorry you're too deluded to see it any other way

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Mudley313: 8:13pm On Oct 28, 2010

gameaddict:
@ Mudley313: Nice question
I do believe it's supernatural. I do not take the claims of other religions as just tales because I don't believe them. I see them as lies, perhaps by this supernatural beings themselves and individuals who participate in the religion to lead people away from the true God.

you do know people of these religious faiths believe the same about your own god just as strongly as you do about theirs? your god (and all the other gods) do not exist outside the pages of their various religious texts and in the minds of their deluded followers

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=539038.msg7033933#msg7033933 date=1288283363]HE (JESUS) became the mediator between God and Man.[/quote]

Amacaco:
God is a just God and sin must be punished. Christ took the punishment for you.

hmm, i thought jesus is supposed to be god/one and the same with god? smh @ europeans brainwashing y'all with things that are obviously absurd to even a 3 year old

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can God Make A Mistake? by Mudley313: 7:46pm On Oct 28, 2010

ofcourse he can. he created satan/lucifer/the devil, didn't he?

Christianity Etc › Re: Mobo,cork Jesus Loves U by Mudley313: 7:43pm On Oct 28, 2010

alexleo:
@poster
sorry dear if my words were harsh. God bless you.

which god? the imaginary one that refused to show up in your challenge below?

alexleo (m)
A Chalenge For Huxley,kay 17,ogaga4luv And Other Atheists And Satanists
« on: May 13, 2010, 09:33 PM »

For long we have witnessed a long argument between those of us who are serving God and those who claim that there is NO God. Now lets simplify this matter now and settle it once and for all. I hereby challenge all those atheists and satanist who say that there is no God to do just this one thing if they are 100 percent sure of their stand.
If you are sure that your stand is right then say this- GOD IF YOU EXIST AS THE CHRISTIANS WANT US TO BELIEVE , THEN LET ME BE BLIND FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS FROM NOW. Make sure you write it here so that all of us can see that you actually said it.

I pray God to respond to you immediately so that you may know that he truly exist. That you may know that the earth is the Lords' and its fulness thereof. That you may know that he reigns all over the earth and that he so love the world that he gave his only beggotten son that whosoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life and that you will turn to him and worship and serve him in spirit and in truth. That you may also spread the testimony of his supreme existance here and yonder In Jesus name I pray. AMEN. He is the God of the whole universe, without him was not anything made that was made. He is our creator. He is my life and my salvation. I love God. May God give you this experience that you may serve him and make heaven at last, in Jesus name I pray.

pls note, this is not a joke. lets settle this matter once and for all. All the glory goes to no other person than the Holy Trinity now and forever more. AMEN.
The floor is now open for those of you who are sure in their believe that God does not exist to respond accordingly. Failure to do so will only mean that you truly know that God exists but you dont want to acknowledge it. DECEIVING YOUR OWN SELVES.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Really Write The Bible? by Mudley313: 12:48pm On Oct 28, 2010

aletheia:
^Sir, don't be confused. May God grant you the insight and understanding. Let's consider this points:

1. You and I agree that God is Perfect, Holy and Just.
2. You and I agree that God is Love.
3. We know that the Perfect Justice of God demands punishment for sin.
4. But God's Love requires Mercy.

How then can Perfect Justice be reconciled with Perfect Love? Or look at it this way, if the offence is forgiven, then no penalty has been paid for the offence and Justice is not satisfied. Unsatisfied justice is no justice, which means that if God forgave without the penalty of the offence being paid for; then His Justice is not Perfect, ergo God is not Perfect.

On the other hand; if punishment is administered for the offence even if for a moment (e.g. Purgatory [as Catholics believe] or a transient sojourn in Hell [as Muslims believe]) before forgiveness is given, then it means that God's Love and Mercy are incomplete, for Perfect Love and Mercy require that the penalty be taken away.

So a way must be found for the penalty to be administered while yet providing forgiveness. That way is for someone to bear our punishment, thus fulfilling the requirement of Justice, and provide a way for forgiveness to be given, thus satisfying Perfect Mercy and Love.

How can one requite an offence against the Holy, Righteous and Perfect One? Indeed can any man pay the penalty? None. . .For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; God is Holy, and so even our pitiful attempts at atoning for are sins do not meet the requirements of His Perfect Justice. . .But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away(Is 64:6).
So what to do? Who then can take the punishment on our behalf? Another man. . .perhaps. But such a man must not be under penalty of sin himself. Could such a one be found, a sinless man? The scriptures make clear that. . .[a]s it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one (Romans 3:10).
So what to do? God who is Love had to step in to provide the substitute Himself. Why was this necessary? Some of the issues are highlighted in the book of Job:
Job 9:2 I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?

Job 9:20 If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse.

No man can measure up to the standards of God's Justice:

Job 11:7-9. Canst thou by searching find out God? canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection? It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do? deeper than hell; what canst thou know? The measure thereof is longer than the earth, and broader than the sea.

So a mediator is needed, one to step in between God and man to effect a reconciliation between Justice and Love:

Job 16:21 O that one might plead for a man with God, as a man pleadeth for his neighbour!

Moreover: None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: (For the redemption of their soul is precious, and it ceaseth for ever That he should still live for ever, and not see corruption. (Psalm 49:7-9)

The scriptures having clearly established that no man can provide a ransom either for himself or another man because all are under the same penalty or punishment goes on to tell us this.
Psalm 49:15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah. And again God Himself emphatically declares:
Hosea 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

And so we come to the Incarnation: Only God Himself can provide the substitute for the punishment as foreshadowed by Abraham's faith: "And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together."(Genesis 22: But for the substitute to be acceptable, it had to be a man, however a sinless Man. God took on human form thereby solving the problem as foretold in the OT and fulfilled in the NT:
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isa 53:2-6 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

John 1:1,14. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. . .And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Php 2:7-8. But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Heb 2:14-17. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

^^As I shared the above with you, my heart has been filled with joy at the glorious gospel of the Lord Jesus.

May Our Father in heaven grant you insight as you consider these words.

just wondering, why do you guys always have to explain/speak for this all-powerful entity; like those who helped him write his book for him. is god deaf mute that he cannot speak for himself or is god illiterate that he cannot write, or the obvious, he just doesn't exist

Christianity Etc › Re: Igbos Should Come Back To Their Traditional Religion by Mudley313: 12:39pm On Oct 28, 2010

Martian:
They should abandon religion and all superstitions. The Europeans proved to them that ancestral worship was silly and obviously delusional and gave them Christianity instead. Well Christianity is just as silly and exponentially more delusional than the Igbo people's beliefs.

The problem is ignorance. Ignorance leads to irrational fear, fear borne out of ignorance breeds superstitions. Superstitions let people create invicible beings that are in control of their lives. Which leads to even more ignorance and the cycle never ends.

But since most black communities across the globe are steeped in superstition, I think black people will continue to be slaves to their jewish lord and savior.

What Igbo people and every other black person need to do is stop being ignorant of this world and how it works and stop looking forward to the next one THAT PROBABLY DOESNT EXIST.

but if i was even deluded and dumb enough to venerate, worship or bow to the images of dead people, i'd rather do that to one of my black african ancestors than some blue eyed blonde haired jewish guy on a cross or so-called saints consisting of alot of white guys who's hands are soaked in blood in fights for their god

at the end, the prevalence of superstition in the nature of the average african is alarming. white guy comes, enslaves you, steal you stuff, and tells you his god is better than yours and superstitious mumu goes yes master

superstition was one main factor the white man used to get hold of africans (unlike the americas where force had to be used). i was reading a story of how a white priest went to a village during colonial times and told the superstitious villagers he would enter a revered shrine no one dared to enter to prove to them that their god was powerless and fake. and after he came back and nothing happened to him they were like "dude must be right" (judging from the fact that most converted to christianity in the long run). silly thing is, you can do the same to the white mans god (abuse, insult, curse, disrespect, desecrate etc) and nothing still's gonna happen to you, because they're all one and the same: powerless, imaginary and non-existent

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Christianity Etc › Re: To Make This World A Better Place, Stop Believing In A Next One. by Mudley313: 12:25pm On Oct 28, 2010

ReLaTE:
@poster why nt prepare urself for heaven nw even if it doesn't exist than to regret later when its already late and the existence real.

what if you prepare for heaven as a christian and find out heaven is ran by allah or krishna or some other god? so after all your commitment you'd still end up in the muslim hellfire for not accepting muhammad's or buddha's teachings

alexleo:
you see the problem with atheists? They are wallowing in total self deceit and they call it wisdom. Now after all the points that okeyxyz made here, you didnt even respond to him rather you still continued to ask toba where you are wrong. You are just deceiving your own self. Is it not better for you to prepare for eternity and when you die and see nothing then you have nothing to lose than not preparing for it and getting there only to discover that there is hell after all. Satan is deceiving you people. May God save your soul.

look who's talking

go and answer your foolishness below o

alexleo(m)
A Chalenge For Huxley,kay 17,ogaga4luv And Other Atheists And Satanists
« on: May 13, 2010, 09:33 PM »

For long we have witnessed a long argument between those of us who are serving God and those who claim that there is NO God. Now lets simplify this matter now and settle it once and for all. I hereby challenge all those atheists and satanist who say that there is no God to do just this one thing if they are 100 percent sure of their stand.
If you are sure that your stand is right then say this- GOD IF YOU EXIST AS THE CHRISTIANS WANT US TO BELIEVE , THEN LET ME BE BLIND FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS FROM NOW. Make sure you write it here so that all of us can see that you actually said it.

I pray God to respond to you immediately so that you may know that he truly exist. That you may know that the earth is the Lords' and its fulness thereof. That you may know that he reigns all over the earth and that he so love the world that he gave his only beggotten son that whosoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life and that you will turn to him and worship and serve him in spirit and in truth. That you may also spread the testimony of his supreme existance here and yonder In Jesus name I pray. AMEN. He is the God of the whole universe, without him was not anything made that was made. He is our creator. He is my life and my salvation. I love God. May God give you this experience that you may serve him and make heaven at last, in Jesus name I pray.

pls note, this is not a joke. lets settle this matter once and for all. All the glory goes to no other person than the Holy Trinity now and forever more. AMEN.
The floor is now open for those of you who are sure in their believe that God does not exist to respond accordingly. Failure to do so will only mean that you truly know that God exists but you dont want to acknowledge it. DECEIVING YOUR OWN SELVES.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Mudley313: 12:14pm On Oct 28, 2010

gameaddict:
@ ROSSIKE an everyone: Instead of abusing each other, can't we just accept that we don't know the answers instead of pretending as if we have all the wisdom in the world. Similar thing killed socrates. People before us and after us have and will contemplate over issues like this and to me, as with all things supernatural, these things will likely remain mysteries.

sorry those things are not mysteries nor supernatural, they are made up fairytales, folklores (jewish, not even african) and superstitions. or do you believe the oduduwa story because its supposed to be supernatural and we cant understand such mysteries. do you believe the moon literarily bowing to muhammed because its supposed to be supernatural and mysterious or that adam smith got some golden plates from angels that supposed to be added to the bible? you see why yours cannot be supernatural and mysterious while others are obvious absurdities and cock n bull stories?

https://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0811/zeus-god-atheism-christian-christianity-xtian-xtianity-zeus-demotivational-poster-1227027668.gif

Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Took 65-year Old Wife, By Kumuyi by Mudley313: 12:00pm On Oct 28, 2010

yommyuk:
Where is the new wife based? If she is a british citizen then I will say wise move by Pastor Kumuyi

Rare breed

i dont think so cos the name below but dunno

Helives:
The statement revealed that the new wife, whose other names are Folashade Aduke
http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/news/17253.html

it's obvious this guys way more modest than those 419 prosperity gospel propellers and you can tell his reason for taking a wife was not for the flamboyance or something canal like all the other robbers in christ would

Celebrities › Re: Exclusive Pictures Of P-square's N500m Mansion by Mudley313: 11:56am On Oct 28, 2010

[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=540260.msg7026522#msg7026522 date=1288199624]Tuface and D'bannj are obviously more successful than PSquare. Why aren't they investing their millions now in solid rather than impregnating women and causing beef everywhere?[/quote]i think tuface shared most of his moneys with keke and d1 while dbanj shares his with don jazzy. p-square keeps it in the family and thats why i think they got more money in the bank combined

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Mudley313: 10:38pm On Oct 27, 2010

gameaddict:
For starters, the same questions used to try to disprove God's existence come back to hunt those your silly logical thinkers.

sharrap there. if your god as described in the bible (especially the old testament) existed we would not even be here arguing about it. makes sense?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Mudley313: 6:31pm On Oct 27, 2010

this thread is a perfect example how the brainwashing from christianity have affected africans the most. a people who were enslaved and their land plundered by those who brought em these absurd and superstitious belief, in a jewish carpenter who was killed like a common criminal and is at the same time god who sent himself to come and die in the hands of mere mortals, just to be able to have better control over them

a better question will be why this imaginary so-called god is addicted to sacrifice (both human and animal) and even was pleasured by mere burning of animals in the old testament. according to the ~~bible~~ book of jewish folklore their god likes the sweet smell of animal flesh burning. i guess god likes a good bbq

smh @ what's supposed to be a simple question spiraling into binding and casting of imaginary demons and satan

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