₦airaland Forum

ElRazur:
Shocking. I never knew God is Allah and Vice versa! Or could it be the simple fact that the concept if Allah is something I do not subscribe to? Just a thought.

illusion2:
I can see from all your coments ,this discussion isn’t going anywhere !

What do you mean ‘carelessly composed’ ? Do you want the Bible to leave out historical facts so as to be ‘politically correct’?

Isn’t it recorded in the Koran that the holy prophet mohammed (pbuh) married a six year old & slept with her at nine?

Does that account excite you? So because something is ‘filthy’(in your own opinion) ,it should be left out?

Or the fact that people were beheaded in God's name ,slavery was rampant, women given half the rights of men etc?

Historical facts are historical facts, whether a prophet drinks, has intimacy with anyone, if it happened, it should be documented.

I don’t jump to conclusions. . .you are the one not reading.
So many threads exist on Koranic texts on NL & Im sure you know the facts my friend . . . . . .

Remember Mr Farouk Abdulmuttalab ? Was he representing your muslim constituency when carrying explosives in his under wear in Dec 2009?

My point : just as you ask people not to judge islam by the alleged actions of individuals . . . apply the same to yourself & christianity.

Your quote below refers; just replace Muslims with Christians:

Finally the Bible says : Do unto others as you would like it to be done unto you !!

monkeyleg:
Sack the minister. He is useless at his job

are you new to this place?

RichyBlacK:
Occupying SA does not mean desecrating holy sites but removing the tyrannical monarchy in Riyadh and dealing with the source of extremist teachings.

Also, do not forget so quickly that Saddam Hussein was ready to roll his tanks straight through Kuwait and then to downtown Riyadh, if not for US intervention. If the US (or Russia) had not intervened on SA's behalf, no country in the middle-east could have stopped Saddam's tanks. Iran would have done nothing because they're not really in good terms with the House of Saud.

And in case you're not aware, parts of present-day SA (including Mecca and Medina) were at one time under Ottoman (present-day Turkey) control, so don't make it seem as if SA has not been occupied before.

In summary, I'm not advocating for the occupation of SA, however, I think George Bush had more reasons to invade Saudi-Arabia (15 of the 19 9-11 hijackers were Saudis, none was Iraqi; Wahhabism is the main source of extremist teachings in Islam and its nerve center is SA; the tyranny and double standards of the House of Saud has fueled extremism within SA; these extremist ideas have been exported to other countries creating sinister organizations like al-Qaeda and al-Shabab; Osama bin Laden is a Saudi; etc.)

toba:
Mushin u sound naived in your post.D scriptures are guide&includes part of d word of God,which tells us about things dat happened&dat will happen.Illusion is very correct d word of God is eternal&its more than what d scriptures describes.D bible says God is d word&God honoureth his word more than his name.i.e when u say d word of God,it means God.dis word is more than what d quran/bible described.Illusion is very correct

illusion2:
^^^ One issue I have with Nigerians (Muslim & christians) is that we are so,so sure of our point of view,that we do not even try to hear out the other side. Thats one of the reasons (sadly) people will aspire to kill someone else in the name of God !

Lets not demonise one another,we are first & foremost human beings with all the aspirations & desires of all human beings. . . religious beliefs may differ,but we remain humans.

So decorum & respect is key. . . . . . . . . .
Matt 5:38-39

mukina2:
Salaam
Muhsin i hope  and pray your dad gets better soonest


@ topic
i was going through a very tough time in my life, i cant even explain it, a brother gave me this two duas to recite and gradually i felt better, 


La illaha illalahul 'asimul alim,
La illaha illalahurrobul 'arshil 'asim
La illaha illalahurrobus samowati wa robul ardi wa robul 'arshil karim

and

Allahumo rahmota arju, falatakilni ila nafsi, torfata 'aini, wa aslihli sha ni kullahu, la illaha illa anta
this means : O Allah, I hope for your mercy, do not leave me to myself even for a moment, place all my affairs in order, there is no God but Allah

I hope it will be of help to anyone of you going through any bad sitaution

ma salaam

Joagbaje:
Usury simply refer to banking system. Loans and interest. It was against Gods will for Israelites to lend out money with interest to one another. but they were allowed to lend with interest(usury) to strangers

Deut. 23:20
Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
. It Also refer to putting your money in the bank to yield interest. Jesus refers to it as a managable last resort investment.In the parable of the talents Jesus said instead of keeping the money idle, it should have been invested in the bank.

Luke 19:23
Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

RichyBlacK:
Abu-Safwan,

You didn't state the exact type of dictionary; there are many dictionaries!

Is it this one:

Collins English Dictionary
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OR




This one:

The Oxford English Dictionary (20 volumes)
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illusion2:
Well I went there for facts . . . alas none existed !

I see you have cleverly replaced ‘corrupted’ with ‘interpolated’ ?

Now unlike the Qu’ran, the source texts of the Bible are available in their original languages –Greek, Hebrew etc  for references, hence people been able to interpret & ‘interpolate’ (whatever that means).

Where are the original texts of the Koran ?? Caliph Usman burnt everything. . . so how do we know he did not remove/add his own words?? Or mistranslate some parts ?

Add to the copies eaten up by animals. . . left under mattresses ,mis-memorised etc.

King James had a similar opportunity in early Christianity, he didn’t destroy the original texts.

Look, the Koran has a lot of enlightenment, but trying to prove that the Koran is a ‘better’ Holy book than the Bible is indeed laughable.

And you are well aware, Muslims hardly encourage people discussing their Holy books critically, unlike Christians who more than welcome thorough analysis of the Bible.

You won’t die in Jesus name. Again , you’re being clever by half. How can you say it is the ‘word of God’ when you only accept the part that suits you? I am a Christian, I have to accept ALL the Bible not only the parts that suits me. So please either accept it wholly or don’t.

As per mutilating the Koran. . . you must be joking !  
I think you live in Kano & you know the fastest way to get yourself killed is for someone to accuse you of mutilating or ‘disrespecting’ the Koran.
I have copies of the Koran all over my office, anytime I need to take a file or clear my desk & I see a copy of the Koran obstructing me,I  call one of my muslim mates to come pick it up . . . I no dey o !

Nobody in his right senses will ever try such a thing. . . even if we don’t believe what’s in it, the fear of instant extra-judicial death via mob action will clearly dissuade anyone in his right senses, by the way what does one stand to gain from ‘disrespecting ‘ another person’s holy book?

However, what I think Muslims need to learn is that if indeed the Koran is inspired by God. . . the printed material in itself isn’t God’s word. . . God’s word is eternal, so remove emphasis on the printed matter, which will perish one way or another & focus on the words in your heart.

ElRazur:
Oh for crying out loud. This have nothing to do with allah. It is well known that those who memorise stuff alot have a bigger "hippocampus" in their brain.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/677048.stm


Nothing spectacular about it. Kids in china are trained using Abascus from a young age to do complex maths that are usually done on calculators.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T0G-4JXY3YJ-3&_user=10&_coverDate=07%2F31%2F2006&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1193828617&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=74cd74185e6830f05d5d6f9d57453420

The bottom line? Nothing big deal about it. Nothing to do with Allah but it goes to show the dynamics ability a human brain have period.

toba:
@rabzy.This pple re sick.They claim d bible is corrupted,yet they quote d part of d same bible that suits them.I av never seen a xtian dat will use quranic qoute to justify d bible,since d quran stole part of d biblical stories.

Kx:
This man is still talking because even in his failure he still keeps his job.

karo93:
jesus was a jew,he practiced judaism and worshipped in the temple. if your qur'an tells you he was a muslim then that is showing that the book is LYING