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GRIMMJOE:
Miracle is different from magic, a stick turning to a snake, a donkey speaking, sounds like magic to me.

GRIMMJOE:
I'm also a little disappointed you will let starving children die if you were God.

GRIMMJOE:
But let's hear what you have to say about free will.

LordReed:
You always overrate your capabilities.

LordReed:
Your ability to hit a nerve will only be predicated on you speaking truth. You speak fables, so you only get a laugh. When you speak imagery predicated on your fables, you reveal how twisted your thoughts are

LordReed:
It is your twisted thoughts I condemn revealing how hypocritical you are. The glee with which you Christians believe your god will torture people is puerile to say the least.

Dantedasz:
That is his stock in trade.

GRIMMJOE:
You still haven't answered my question, I'll ask again, maybe you missed it.

Would you have created a better world if you were God?
Please note, you don't have to answer.

MuttleyLaff:
What we perceive as miracles on earth, are actually rules, principles and/or laws of heaven. It's when a miracle is constantly repeated or perfected, that it becomes a process of nature, a normal state of affairs on earth. Magic, on the other hand, historically often had pejorative connotations, specifically negative connotations to apply to rites that were regarded as fraudulent, unconventional, and dangerous. Magic, is the art of producing illusions as entertainment by the use of sleight of hand, deceptive devices

Let's take a look at a perceived miracle, the Thames Tunnel, is the world's first man-made underground tunnel under a river built. It was used by pedestrians, was a shopping arcade and became a tourist attraction. Experts back then, thought that an underground tunnel underneath a navigable river is impracticable, and so, it was classed a miracle then and after, this tunnel was successfully constructed by Sir Marc Isambard Brunel. Whats the point made here? The point is that, tunnels under rivers, are now ten a penny, and so thereby their constructions arent seen to be miracles anymore. It has become a norm.

It has to be within the rules though before God can do beyond what our mind can conceive, besides we all know and agree that "let Thy will be done" takes precedence here nau.

GRIMMJOE:
By Supernatural and magic I meant miracles,

GRIMMJOE:
as for free will we can discuss it later.

GRIMMJOE:
But I have one question for you MuttleyLaff, thieves, ritualist, murderers, corruption, poverty, suffering, this is the question.

Would you have created a better world if you were God?

GRIMMJOE:
LordReed can you please comprehend the above comment, it seems like his intentionally blabbering (no offense) to kill off the argument.

GRIMMJOE:
This is not a Christian thing to do, you are to preach the gospel.

LordReed:
LMFAO! Look at who likes talking about Freudian slips. You Christians can display some of the worst wishes for your fellow human. Imagine believing that someone is a tortured soul writhing like a heap of maggots just because they don't believe in your god. It says more about you than about the unbeliever. You have the most wicked thoughts is what it says, yet you believe in a bible you say dictates to you to keep your thoughts pure. Smell that hypocrisy?

Born2Freak:
Lol. It is a hypothetical argument.
If this, then that.......

An omniscient or omnipotent God and freewill cant exist together

If God knows the future, then it means that the future is written in stone. If the future is written in stone, then we humans are on a predestined path.

GRIMMJOE:
From the second point, what calamity? Oh you mean the world God created, why did He created a calamity and put His precious children inside? Sounds like scam.

GRIMMJOE:
From your first point you still have some sense left, but this also means you don't believe in the supernatural and magical aspect of religion.

GRIMMJOE:
From the last point, Since you claim to have free will, can you please tell me when you gave God permission to bring you into this world.

frosbel2:
Well it seems like you belong to the same circle. Birds of the same smell feather stink flock together.

frosbel2:
A liar who tells 10 lies and 1000 truths is still a liar and even a more profound liar at that, for he mixes fallacy with facts making it difficult to detect him as a FRAUD. I will continue to expose them for the fakes that they are - lol.

frosbel2:
Well I ain’t got no issues with gays as they are also human beings like myself. But your bible (you know the one that was handed down to you by your European superiors and slave masters) does unequivocally condemn the act of men sleeping with men, it’s there ; and you call yourself a follower of Jesus, lol. What a confused soul.

GRIMMJOE:
You're mumbling.

GRIMMJOE:
Contradicting yourself, you claim Christianity is not about gain, but proceed to say it's to gain eternal life.

GRIMMJOE:
I find it hard for any Atheist not to talk about religion in a very religious country, knowing your family member may insist on going to church only to bring back the virus.

GRIMMJOE:
They claim free will exist, yet their God kills them without their permission.

Born2Freak:
Stop trying to sound smarter than you are. Freewill does not exist if an omnipotent God exists- especially when any death is in accordance to His will

frosbel2:
"creepy clowns" like your randy pastors ( e.g MOG of CE ) who screw their members, cheat on their wives while posing as men of god, lol. Real creepy clowns they are and disgusting as well.

frosbel2:
What is new. I always knew you were a fake but not to the extent that you would describe a FAKE, OCCULTIC and FRAUDULENT 'pastor' as a WISE MAN.

frosbel2:
Your ilk usually resort to personal attacks when their argument has been exposed, nullified and shamed for the crap that it is. Now go and heal a Corona victim or do some press-ups or SU.

malvisguy212:
so what you are saying here is that because a Christian die of the virus, it's prove that God does not exist?

kingxsamz:
I'm not proving that he doesn't exist, I'm telling you that he doesn't exist, based on the facts on ground.
You cannot disprove what cannot be proved.

It is stated in your bible that God will look out for his own.
You're here claiming that because China is a non religious nation, that's why they're being faced with the virus, but meanwhile Christians in other religious countries are dying daily from the virus.
Why is your God not helping them?

Born2Freak:
A true religious fatalist, you are.

Born2Freak:
So hiding the truth is a good thing?

Born2Freak:
See how you christians turn the bible upside down?

Born2Freak:
lol.....so you support Adeboye's sophistry?

Born2Freak:
I would really love to see your the strenght of your faith if all your old relatives got the corona virus

Born2Freak:
So, what is now the difference between your God and Loki, the god of mischief?

Born2Freak:
Concealing things, is a past time of dishonest beings

malvisguy212:
were did this virus began? China! What is China stand on religion? China is an atheistic nation, a nation without God. You atheists will find a way to blame God because of the hatred you have for God.. Foolish atheist

Born2Freak:
So, the swine flu that started in Mexico, a religious (christian populated) country, is now what?
Use your brain.

MuttleyLaff:
No one is mistaken that soja come, soja go, but barracks dey still remain. In 1720, it was the plague, in 1820, it was cholera, in 1920, was Spanish flu and Ghen-Ghen in 2020 Corovirus aka COVID-19 aka Aunty Coro.

Whether it was manufactured or not, you got it right, is besides the point. Is inconsequential, what is certain, trust me, is that, already doing press-ups, sit-ups and other exercise preps waiting in the wing to come in 2120, is going to be a mutant, another new virus, another PANdemic/PLANdemic. I've just up there highlighted an obvious pattern, notice I've deliberately not mentioned Bird flu, not mentioned Swine flu, didnt mention Ebola. There is no doubt, that Aunty Coro soon after having her fill will pack her bags and leave. COVID-19 will soon blow over, and we will have survived it. We will survive it and without any scathe, mainly because of claiming the promises in Psalms 91:5-16

kestolove95:
Evn d people dat brought d religion are in d lab researching, here in Nigeria dey are praying

Bacteriologist:
Wake up and smell the coffe, people. God does not exist.

We are alone in this world. It's 100% our responsibility.

This virus is our cross to bear. Religion cannot do shït. FICTION cannot fix REALITY and times like these prove it.

MuttleyLaff:
It never is news that God already had put out the solution for all problems, small or large that could/might make man jittery.

Same way, there is and/or are whatever furniture you can imagine of, in a seed of oak tree, waiting for man to bring out the chair, the bed, the door, the etcetera from out and/or in the seed, so God, too, like everyone of us, is waiting for man, to reach deep into his God given potential and pull out what God has already put inside him, to neutralize COVID-19 with, lol

MuttleyLaff:
C'mon mister scientist, bring out that thing God planted in you. Don't be keeping the whole world waiting, lol. Don't squander the God given potential in you to wade off COVID-19 with, lol. We are standing solidly right behind you, praying for you and routing you on to success and a fantastic breakthrough, lol.

Religion that is not true, that is not pure and one that God finds fault in, is 10000% useless.

finalboss:
mehn, the way you guys sit down and type rubbish

finalboss:
you on crack

Born2Freak:
It would be better if you used your own words.

Born2Freak:
What do you have to say about the pastors using the corona virus to get famous?

Born2Freak:
Adeboye just said that anyone killed by the virus was preordained to die!! Imagine

Born2Freak:
This pandemic has shown that religions are only for spiritual entertainment. When it comes to real life problems, it is either the religions have made the problems bigger or the religions have been useless as a solution.

Here are the examples of religious failures during this pandemic

1. Churches failing to give every member masks, gloves and sanitizers. The price of one private jet can cover the expenses in saving lives,

2. Churches still having church services. As at last Sunday, many of the big churches (Redeemed, Winners etc) still had services. It took government intervention and criticism to get them to stop.

3. Mosques still having prayers/Jumat. Many mosques still had services last week. Some that were closed faced riots (to open) in the north.

4. Pastors trying to achieve fame through the corona virus. Many big pastors are running around claiming that they prophesied correctly in 2019 about the virus. The pandemic is not about you. If you saw the virus coming, why dont all your members have enough sanitizers, food and masks for the period?

5. Evidently, we need more hospitals than religious centres. Imagine if we had the biggest hospitals in West Africa and not churches trying to build the biggest worship centres in Africa!! Can a church or mosque help us now?

6. Rather than tackle the government on providing more medical quarantine centres and testing kits, we have pastors and imams prophesying and preaching doomsday conspiracies.



God only helps those who help themselves. Religion and prayer will fail you if you replace hardwork and common sense with them....

cc lalasticlala, ishilove, lordreed, budaatum, capslocked, alexistaiwo, muttleylaff

MuttleyLaff:
No one is mistaken that soja come, soja go, but barracks dey still remain. In 1720, it was the plague, in 1820, it was cholera, in 1920, was Spanish flu and Ghen-Ghen in 2020 Corovirus aka COVID-19 aka Aunty Coro.

Whether it was manufactured or not, you got it right, is besides the point. Is inconsequential, what is certain, trust me, is that, already doing press-ups, sit-ups and other exercise preps waiting in the wing to come in 2120, is going to be a mutant, another new virus, another PANdemic/PLANdemic. I've just up there highlighted an obvious pattern, notice I've deliberately not mentioned Bird flu, not mentioned Swine flu, didnt mention Ebola. There is no doubt, that Aunty Coro soon after having her fill will pack her bags and leave. COVID-19 will soon blow over, and we will have survived it. We will survive it and without any scathe, mainly because of claiming the promises in Psalms 91:5-16

Now, here's the deal. Aunty coro is another the sort of hardest kind of teachers, that gives you the test first and then the lesson afterwards, lol. Now here are few itemised list of lessons to learn, lol:

Lesson #1/
Washing your hands is one of the simplest ways you can protect yourself and others from Aunty Coro. Is it a coincidence that there's western side of the country parlance that says "Ai mọ ọwọ wẹ, ni aibagba jẹun, ọmọ toba mọ ọwọ wẹ, a bagba jẹ" loosely translated means "elders wont permit kids with unwashed and not cleaned hands, eat with them" Washed and/or clean hands, is a barest minimum health requirement for the privilege of joining the elders at the table, to dine and having a meal with them, lol. We hear that cleanliness is next to godliness, but are you aware of how many before Aunty Coro and still do now, who never wash their hands before eating and/or before putting things in their mouth, lol erhn?

Our Lord and Saviour of the world is coming. He is coming so He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot, without any kind of stain or without a spot (i.e. Ephesians 5:27) Aunty Coro has come to teach everyone a coded lesson, the physical and spiritual side about this, lol.

Lesson #2/
You are more at risk of serious illness and/or death, if Aunty Coro catches you and you're 60 years of age or over, people over 75 are particularly vulnerable. Now here's is where a Aunty Coro's lesson in social grace, lol, comes in.

In the UK, for example, thousands of people deemed in one way or the other, as most vulnerable to Aunty Coro infection, have begun receiving free food parcels. Consignment boxes containing pasta, cereal, fruit, tea bags, toilet roll, medicines etcetera are now left on the vulnerables' doorsteps. As part of the "social shielding" strategy protecting hedges/protective walls are raised to shield the elderly and other vulnerable, yet making sure they have everything they need This is what true religion is. This is religion that is true and religion, that God our Father, accepts as pure and faultless, lol, that Aunty Coro's lesson is teaching everyone (i.e. James 1:27)

Lesson #3/
There really isnt anything sacrosanct in the cathedrals, in the megabowl church physical buildings, the amphitheatres, in Pastor Adeboye RCCG's planned 3-km auditorium, in Deeper Life Bible Church HQ valued at over N5 billion, nothing in arguably one of the world's biggest auditorium Pastor Oyedepo's Faith Theatre Winners Chapel, nothing in Pastor Paul Eneche's the Dunamis' Glory Dome 100,000 seater capacity auditorium in Abuja, that beats every over church auditoriums and buildings in the world, the etcetera lol.

Anyone who does, simply has missed the lesson to learn from Aunty Coro and/or the bigger picture of Aunty Coro, which is the hour is coming, actually, the hour, is now, the time is now here, lol, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, lol. There really isnt anything sacrosanct in them cement, concrete brick and mortal, lol. Look at Friday and this is talking of having Jumu’ah prayers with in some cases, of men crowded together and spilling on to the streets, like as weekly seen in Lagos and similar places, lol, blocking traffic etcetera. Aunty Coro's physical and spiritual lesson is that, worship the Father, in spirit and truth, lol, that dont you know you're the temple ni, lol (i.e. John 4:23-24, 1 Corinthians 3:16 and 1 Corinthians 6:19a)

Lesson #4/
Oh, time is not ally at all, to allow me do justice, to this unfolding Aunty Coro lesson #4, lol. Smh. Too much details that time isnt going to permit mention. How for do. Smh

Anyway, do you really think delishpot, that you havent got the mark(s) of the beast, yet, ni, lol. Have you a smartphone? Have you a bank card, like as in, have you a Debit and/or Credit card, lol, hmm?. Ah, I laff in BVN, lol, lol.

Now, how about BVN? Have you got yours yet, lol? Everyone knows that Bank Verification Number commonly called BVN is an 11 digit number and it acts as your universal ID. Its a biometric identification system implemented by the Central Bank of Nigeria to give each Bank customer a unique identity across the Nigerian Banking industry, right, lol.

Are any aware the presidency, in under 18 hours ago, has come out to deny plans to give Nigerians BVN ₦30,000 "coronavirus relief". The implication here, is that, had it been the refutation was true, if you had no BVN, then you wouldnt qualify to benefit from that gesture, lol. Anyway, Aunty Coro, one of the other hardest teachers out there, lol, is giving lessons on and/or about the beast(s), the many antichrists frantically and flat out being busy out there, lol, image of the beast etcetera. Oh yeah, lol, beast and antichrist, come in plurals, lol. Check the bible to confirm these nah, lol. (i.e. Revelation 11:7, Revelation 13:11-14 and 1 John 2:18) I'll give you an abridged roll call of the antichrists. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs RIP, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Ren Zhengfei, lol, please stand up, lol and that's to name just a few elites ones, lol. I know we are intelligent enough to spot the distinction and suss out the difference between Antichrist and antichrists, lol, so wont bother going into that.

Do people really know and/or understand what a beast is, lol (i.e. Revelation 13:1) Aunty Coro's lesson is teaching and pointing out to us, the unfolding technological advances, the rapidly evolving and quickening pace of the technological changes, lol. Case in point, Cloud Computing, Artificial Intelligence (AI), Drone Delivery Service Trialling, Satellite/Space Internet, 1G, 2G, 3G, 4G, currently 5G and possibly 6G soon, lol, etcetera If you know, you know, lol. Who no know, no go know.

Listen yall, I am not going to information overload and/or bore anyone with what the Aunty Coro's lesson #4 is, except for say, it is brace yourselves, and at no time, give in, to worship the image of the beast and that is dont worship anything that has to do with the notion or idea, that God is and/or has become a glorified computer and/or a digital god (i.e. Revelation 13:15b)

Lesson #5/
This is a warning and lesson, not just for them, the Egyptians or whatnot, but is for everyone

Aunty Coro, is no respecter of persons, and so, will, regardless, visit every doorstep but when the blood, on the lintel and on the sides of the doorframe are seen, will pass over the door, so not to allow the destroyer to enter such houses to strike down, hurt and/or kill (i.e. Exodus 12:13 & Exodus 12:23)

For believers, there's nothing to fear about Aunty Coro. All shall be well, all manner of thing, shall be well. Learn to profess and confess an "Everything is all right, Everything is fine. It is well. All is well." positive destination declaration. Do not give oxygen to the current situation. Do not confess the situation, rather confess the expected destination (i.e. 2 Kings 4:26b)

God, is ever in control, even in the midst of what will be will be. Whatever what the case or outcome is, be well pleased rather to be absent from the body and expectively be present with the Lord (i.e. 2 Corinthians 5:8 )

Another Aunty Coro's lesson, is that, dont be a Simon, which has the meaning of being a reed. This to the fact that, he practically, was a wavering person by nature, who just like a river water reed, tall, grass-like plants of wetlands, goes/flows in whatever direction the wind blows it. Anyway, Jesus, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, renamed Simon to Peter, signifying a transformation to become resolute and solid rock steady, lol. Do not waver in your faith in God. Do not get frightened, unsettled, confused, troubled, disconcerted, worried, scared etcetera instead be firm. Don't shake or be moved about by whistling unfavourably blowing wind(s) of change
cc Bodydialect57

frosbel2:
TB Joshua is a CLOWN. Why?
• Impulsive prophecies which ALWAYS fail, lol
• Takes no accountability for his actions. 115 died from the collpase of one of his poorly constructed buildings, and he was in denial forever.
• Fake healing and deliverance sessions
• Finally, cowers in the face of CORONA VIRUS.
Has no remedy, just more MERE talk, no action and empty boasts - oh and press-ups.
Who knows press-ups may be the new remedy for this corona malady -

frosbel2:
And you call him a wise man? Actually, tells us how enlightened and intelligent you are, lol

frosbel2:
I don't give a flying toss about you and your mythical/fairy tale religion, so why would/should I be jealous?
Of;
• European middle-age myths?
• Mayhem, contradiction, anarchy and hypocrisy in the 'body of christ'
• Abuse, trickery, deception and fraud in your holier than thou crap?
• Cowering in the face of a plague ?

frosbel2:
Give me a break thou joker -

frosbel2:
Meanwhile Jesus will not be proud of you for supporting gayism, lol.

frosbel2:
I am so sorry, what seems to be the problem?
My post in reference to TB Joshua the CLOWN?

frosbel2:
I can assure you that my reply was not in response to the incoherent rambling you scribbled in your previous post.

frosbel2:
We know you guys are comedians, but not everything is a joke :-)

frosbel2:
Conman par excellence. All talk no action.

delishpot:
What I learnt from aunty coro?
Well, I believe its a wakeup call for humanity to understand how fragile life is and treat everyday and everyone with reverence and respect remembering that 1 day we shall all stand before our maker.

Whether it was manufactured or not is besides the point. As for Nigeria, aunty coro is a tool to wake up those greedy and evil people at the top, those who are in charge of everything that should make life comfortable for the people of nigeria.

This is a warning for them. If they don't change, something bigger than Corona will visit them.

Officialgarri:
I like this man.

But I just want to see how this corona will disappear today

I guess his followers will say " he didn't mention the year. He just said 27th march. It could be 2030"

petra1:
More people are recovering than dying .
Mystery is over na

MuttleyLaff:
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Dont be confused. Coronavirus (i.e. COVID-19) is not the first, nor is it going to be last virus. Prior to COVID-19, we've had the Spanish flu, the Russian flu etcetera with higher mortality rate than what COVID-19 currently has inflicted and we survived it.

We will survive COVID-19 too, already vaccines, which I wouldnt personally recommend any smart person take, are coming up. Today the POTUS announced that chloroquinne, an anti-malaria drugs, apparently cures COVID-19

You're missing the lesson to learn and bigger picture of COVID-19, which is the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, lol. There really isnt anything sacrosanct in the cathedrals, in the megabowl church physical buildings, the amphitheatres, the etcetera lol.

MuttleyLaff:
Radiation, lol.

That's the sanitised version cause, lol.

True all that. We've had Spanish flu, have had Russian flu, before this Chinese flu. Argue with the POTUS, if aggrieved and vexed I called COVID-19 Chinese flu, lol

Quite a lot to learn from the COVID-19 aka Corona virus interesting experience though

You're wrong. Herd immunity is the cure.

Hmm, totally right

Not totally right here, lol

delishpot:
My brother, you are good to go.
I hope it will pass soon where you are. Me and my family are well stocked but we were too slow to gather meat and or fish. Now we making do with sussages and eggs �.

delishpot:
All in all, we shall overcome.

delishpot:
God is offering diamond, but some rather are busy digging for and/or picking up pennies/dirt
My brother, I pray that God gives us wisdom.

delishpot:
Muttley!! How are you man?

delishpot:
I hope you are well stocked up this Corona season?

delishpot:
Abeg, na who drop diamond and who is picking up the pennies?