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BUHARIGOQUENCH:
Hehehe....
Wethin Musa no go see for gate

Mrshape:
Exactly 5 minutes I got it.
You need to understand what digit is and how many single digits are in the world to get it

frosbel2:
Because HE is usually depicted as white , or have you forgotten? lol.
Small reminder below.
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frosbel2:
Admit it, you are not equipped to respond to the question I asked you, stop rambling.

frosbel2:
[s]Okay, so anything Jesus did not say directly is fair game. So, because Jesus did not DIRECTLY mention gayism, transsexual, pansexual, bisexual, it means they are all ALLOWED in the lives of a Christian. Oh, I see. What a confused man. Your other holy Christian brothers will throw you out of fellowship or the congregation will all this your BS[/s].

blueAgent:
Go through my previous post on the page before this and find my opinion on this case.

frosbel2:
Nothing racist about white Jesus. He is a borrowed myth from your European masters. Does this offend you?

frosbel2:
You are at it again; rambling, rigmaroling, insulting, deceiving and still unable to explain away the statement I made ; If Jesus represents the word of God from old to new, and if Paul is a prominent apostle of Jesus, your position on gayism is untenable, irrelevant, heretical and unbiblical ...

frosbel2:
... You err badly. Christian? Lol.

frosbel2:
Jesus stood 100% on the law of God and Paul his disciple made some of his positions on our conduct very clear. It is your type of Christian (oh please) that rips the bible to shreds in a bid to support their fabrications, fallacies and heresies.

Hope you get it now ?

GRIMMJOE:
Prayer is you closing your eyes while talking to yourself, go out there and help people, someone miracle might be a face mask, go and perform that miracle by handing him a face mask.
if you ask muttley if he prays day and night he'll give a long essay saying nothing.

Dantedasz:
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GRIMMJOE:
OK, one more question, hope you don't mind.

What would you have done about this pandemic if you were God.

A. Stop the virus before it kills your followers.

B. Let the virus kill some more before stopping it.

C. Do nothing.

GRIMMJOE:
Atheist simply means not believing in the existence of all know God.
They are not science worshipers (most don't even believe in the big bang)
They are not Satanist (That's totally different)

If my explanation is not clear please let me know, thank you.

GRIMMJOE:
Ok

kkins25:
the almighty chineke fire you there...hahahahha

GRIMMJOE:
I'm referring to those that die with out hearing the word of God, they will be judge by their works, why then go about preaching the word of God to people?

GRIMMJOE:
This is the solution you gave to a flawed world

GRIMMJOE:
Turns out you'll be a better God after all.
As for your second point please be vivid.

GRIMMJOE:
A lot of people who die without this truth will be going to heaven.

GRIMMJOE:
MuttleyLaff, hope you can clearly see how much pain people are in, maybe I should take his advice and open a church, who knows.

kkins25:
COVID -19 a deadly yet fascinating virus has spread across continents faster than Jesus resurrected to heaven. COVID 19 will definitely be imprinted in the sub consciousness of humanity and has earned itself a respectable throne in the kingdom of history books.

In the book of revelations, God promised that he would one day rid the world of the overwhelming evil that has shadowed the earth from the light of the Heavens. God being a wise omnipotent being, had foreseen that humanity would in some era embrace the darkness that strangles it. God did forsee the rise in adulterated freedom of speech, religion and sexual preference even before he crafted the clay that became Adam. indeed; God works in mysterious ways, HE crafted a remarkable plan.
God has revealed this vision to me and instructed me to share with you; the generation of perversion and ungodliness. please grab a sit as i recall my ordeal.

"kkins! kkins!! kkins!!!, wake up from thy slumber - thou lazy youth of a perverted generation. you will deliver my message to the rest of your kind and let them know that i- the i am that i am, the alpha and omega has seen the evil works of humanity and i shall spare them no longer."


upon hearing HIS voice, i awoken; faster than a deer hunted by a leopard. my knees crumbled to the floor like it yearned for its touch, a power penetrated through my flesh and filled my veins- i was no one compared to the one who called out my name.

"who calls my name?"
"who is there?" i asked with my knees vibrating like that instrument CAPSLOCKEDs girlfriend puts inbetween her legs after he has done his 5 seconds paraplegic marathon workout.

"be aware, you stand on HOLY GROUND. bow before your lord your God"

Before i could express my cocktail of joy, hatred, anxiety, curiosity and fear among st others; i found myself in the allah akhbar position. it seemed an invisible force had full control over my body. my memories were triggered by the vaseline body lotion laying on the floor just a few feets away. i hadnt replaced the cover lid after i used it last night. i awoke to reality once more; with the human figure covered with an aura of eye blinding light standing before me.

"g-g- good evening bro-o- ehm God-sir. i am most perplexed and humbled by your presence"
"hello be thy name"
"the alufa and omema"
"the ominiporous ,the no-nonsense, the omnipresent God"

i yelled out as i tried to recall the praises my mum used to sing during morning devotion which i almost never attended because i was too guilty to face God after carefully lubricating my manhood the previous night, of course the vaseline body lotion was my partner in crime.

"what is this white slimy creamy looking liquid that lays on the floor"

was this a trap? God should know this already. My thoughts began another frenzy race; what do i say; 'is this a test'? oh God! if only i attended sunday services those gatherings that our f*cking pastor organizes weekly. wait a minute, can God read my mind? ohh f*ck!.. in the moment of chaos, i decided to tell the truth:

"i spilled my yogurt on the floor and forgot to wipe it, i'm sorry lord"

"thou thinketh me a fool? "

"No lord, we no longer call it seed, its now cal- called yogurt. forgive me Lord"
"such a ridiculous creature, you spill seed that was meant for the womb on the floor?
"you shall be my prophet. i do as i please, I am the lord God"

"Go to Nairaland and deliver this message to the pastors that blaspheme my name
to those who pray for the world to see, to those who trade in my house"

"i am the lord, and i know the beginning and the end. for where were you when i shaped the universe?
other gods tremble at the sight of my shadow.
what was humanity but a thought i had not manifested"
you shall deliver unto thy brethren that the i am that i am says;


"shall the sheep suffer for the crime of the wolf"? i interrupted.

"verily verily, i say to you, no one is innocent."

"i knew many would blaspheme against my spirit; i knew muttleylaff, a serpent like his father the devil would lie in my name saying i love men who spill seed into another man.
i knew budaatum would not believe in me yet claim he has been touched by my spirit of wisdom
i knew fumitsiqueen2 would rise and speak in the church against my command
i knew seun would build a platform for the devil where he shall persecute my sheep.
Let it be known to all that I am the Lord your God."

for your balsphemey, i have cursed you thus:

to be continued...

GRIMMJOE:
A lot of people who die without this truth will be going to heaven.

GRIMMJOE:
I don't really see it as boring, just tried of the same old discussion over and over again, it's like Déjà vu.
Today is felixmor, tomorrow Kingebuka, next is Muttleylaf

GRIMMJOE:
1. Adam was the default template meaning, since he chose wrong any other person would have done the same. You proceed to tell us that's because the template "Adam" is flawed.

This simply means God created a flawed template, and that's because God himself is flawed or maybe He doesn't even exist.

2. You also claimed we all chose to be created, no where in the Bible was this ever stated.

Jman06:
"For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving"
- 1 Timothy 4:4

If He created them, then He is responsible for coronavirus!

Jman06:
A God who is supposedly omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, and who has the attribute of "author and finisher of our faith" cannot be said to be helpless in the affairs of man to the point that he cannot prevail on some Chinese atheists to stop them from creating a virus that would eventually infect and kill his supposedly "beloved" children in other countries.

Jman06:
See, if you Christians want your bible stories to sell and remain relevant in this 21st century, then you've got a lot of editing to do in that your bible otherwise, very soon people would begin to laugh at you for trying to preach the bible to them.

Jman06:
More and more people are becoming logical and smarter these days and I am sure a time would come when nobody would take your preachings serious at all.

Jman06:
I suggested this idea of EDITING the bible before on this forum and I just repeated my suggestion once more.

frosbel2:
Dont ask me, ask your white Jesus, lol. Its in your bible.

frosbel2:
You are clearly not a literal bible student, because if you were, you would believe and apply the bible end to end 100%. Stop cherry picking....

frosbel2:
I am quite sure that my bible knowledge and understanding is adequate to decipher its contents in a logical, reasonable and factual manner.

frosbel2:
You are a bible CHERRY PICKER, period. Don't be ashamed of the old testament , lol. Oh . Jesus's key apostle Paul said ;
"In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error "

ERRING HYPOCRITE.

GRIMMJOE:
You still haven't answered my question, I'll ask again, maybe you missed it.

Would you have created a better world if you were God?
Please note, you don't have to answer.

MuttleyLaff:
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What a joker. Scroll up to read it

Anas09:
Shd'nt this question be directed to you the science worshipper?

GRIMMJOE: is it my fault Adam chose wrong, why do I have to get punished for it?

GRIMMJOE: You said people who choose right don't have two heads (are not special) then why will Adam choose for every body

GRIMMJOE: The truth is you and I were never given an opportunity to choose ...

GRIMMJOE: ... free will don't exist.

frosbel2:
Meanwhile Jesus will not be proud of you for supporting gayism, lol.

frosbel2:
^^^
On the contrary, you are saving face by asking for specific words from the mouth of Jesus about gayism in YOUR BIBLE, when you know quite well that Jesus supports 100% end to end of all that is contained in your BIBLE from the old to the new. What kind of rigmarole are you trying to use and confuse the truths that emanate from you bible, lol.

frosbel2:
Oh, I forgot, cherry picking bible verses to support your heresies is one of your skills !!
Anybody and actually everybody can support any doctrine or position they hold and back it up with bible verses.
Confusion galore.

Oya, next point ?

frosbel2:
Yawn ! Regurgitated rubbish again.
Time is precious.

LordReed:
Rest your head stupíd cunt, you've overtasked the 2 remaining brain cells.

LordReed:
Stupíd cunt go and sleep since your brain has overheated. LMFAO!
I am not like you hypocrite who has dumb ideas, this is real life when she is older she will choose what kind of "colourful language " she will like or not. Dundee united.

LordReed:
Stupìd cunt when you type your tripe we can deduce what you believe.
We are not air heads like you who type long sentences to cover their utter lack of intelligence.

Put a banana in that arse mouth of yours and let a gorilla rip it up for you dumb cunt.

LordReed:
Stupíd cunt do you have to type the very words I believe such and such before we know what you believe. You really are an arse for a mouth dumb cunt.

LordReed:
It is your twisted thoughts I condemn revealing how hypocritical you are.
The glee with which you Christians believe your god will torture people is puerile to say the least.

LordReed:
Yes read it and scomprehend it you dumb cunt. Does it say you said god tortures people?

LordReed:
You always overrate your capabilities.

LordReed:
Your ability to hit a nerve will only be predicated on you speaking truth. You speak fables, so you only get a laugh. When you speak imagery predicated on your fables, you reveal how twisted your thoughts are

LordReed:
It is your twisted thoughts I condemn revealing how hypocritical you are. The glee with which you Christians believe your god will torture people is puerile to say the least.

LordReed:
It is your twisted thoughts I condemn revealing how hypocritical you are.
The glee with which you Christians believe your god will torture people is puerile to say the least.

LordReed:
Dumb bitch find where I said you said god tortures people. Stupíd cunt.

Daejoyoung:
Hellfire is not what Jesus or the bible teaches, only in Revelation do you find lake of fire.

The bible teaches about a fire that destroys the enemy. Think about it for a second, how does a soul without nerves and receptors associated with the skin and brain feel pain and hot torments from a fire? This shows the fire is not literal burning but a form of anguish and torment in Jesus parables.

MuttleyLaff:
Hell or better put, Hades, actually is a Greek concept, the Jews have no concept of Hell or Hades
they have sheol, alright but the concept of Hell or Hades, is a Greek one.

Sheol is more of a proper and real biblical Israelite concept of where the dead are ''interned''

Sheol in an oversimplified or elementary manner can be grave or has been referred as grave

Grave/tomb/sepulchre sites are merely places of deposit for a corpse. Sheol is the realm of the dead or departed souls
- Souls do not linger in the air. Souls do not stay in limbo. Souls do not hang about. Souls do not make revisits

Until Jesus in the NT, Sheol in general, without necessarily distinguishing between righteous or unrighteous souls, has been the realm of the dead or abode of the dead

We have verses in OT (e.g. Psalm 9:17 etcetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it was Jesus in the NT that brought things into perspective when He shared the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol with the story of the Rich Man being elsewhere and Abraham with the Poor Man being on a different side. Remember that, just like because you're telling a joke, it doesnt necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man.

Sheol (i.e. the original Hebrew concept of afterlife) now has gray lines shared with Gehenna (i.e. the refuse dump in Jerusalem hyperbolically referred to by Jesus in Matthew 5:29 Matthew 18:9 and Mark 9:47) and Hell (i.e. a Greek mythology and Greek concept of afterlife) which arent really understood. The etymology of afterlife from a Jewish concept (i.e. Sheol, with 2 sections) has changed over time and Sheol, since, has being interchangeably replaced with Gehenna and Hell/Hades

Reiterating, hell which has become synonymous with Hades, is neither Hebrew or Greek in origin

Sheol is, what you'll find in the original Hebrew text for any word for Hell. In other places, Hades or Hell was the Greek substitution for the part of Sheol where the Rich man is from the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus

As a matter of fact, Hell, actually finds it roots in the classic Greek mythology, Hades, where Hades interestingly and actually, was the ancient Greek god of the underworld. This god's name (i.e. Hades) later turned to mean the place or abode of the dead, which actually is exactly what Sheol is, what is signifies or represents.

Talking about Gehenna, well it is a valley, a valley in Jerusalem, used as a dumping refuse site and so was used by Jesus to depict the Lake of fire (i.e. it is a place of destruction, as in, via incineration, a place for destroying things)

As earlier mentioned, Gehenna was the incinerating refuse dump in Jerusalem. Hades however, historically and originally is the name of a Greek god until it got turned to meaning the place or abode of the dead. It later got interchanged with hell, which is from a German word root. It was bible translators who were substituing the original Hebrew word Sheol (i.e. the part where the dead of the Rich man sort are), with Greek counterparts Hades/Hell that made hell stick with us today

Death is not a physical person but it will cease to exist because it will be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical lake of fire

MuttleyLaff:
"Then he will say also to those who are at his left,
'Depart from me, you cursed ones, into eternal fire, that which was prepared for The Devil and for his Angels."
- Matthew 25:41

"And if your hand should cause you to stumble, cut it off;
it is better for you to enter into life crippled,
than having two hands to go away into Gehenna, into the unquenchable fire."
- Mark 9:43

"But I will show you whom you should fear:
Fear the One who has authority, after the killing, to cast into Gehenna. Yes, I say to you, fear Him."
- Luke 12:5

The eternal fire, which some take as meaning hell, was not originally created for man, which explains why it's existence is not mentioned in any of the creation six days, but obviously it was created sometime after the Devil and his angels' rebellion and before the rebellion of Adam and Eve.

If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know

Hell not really a Jewish/Hebraic concept, but its more of a Greek mythology concept, and it is like a dumpster, landfill site and/or refuse tip site. Hell, has the sense of Gehenna, the garbage dump site for the biblical city of Jerusalem, where fires burned continually to destroy the garbage, abandoned and disused stuff.

Hell, in that light, is in fact, a destination place of the evil and/or morally wrong, like quick money making practice ritualist(s) etcetera for an example.

MuttleyLaff:
... Put on your seat belt on and hold tight, I sure hope you have a strong stomach for going on this ride and bumpy road with me, lol.

Cave.Adullam, I've just prayed and hope you be capable enough to patiently read a long post and obtain without difficulty every ounce of info this post is going to be fully charged with, lol. Mind you, I might have to split the post into two parts, as I am guessing if not it'll be a very long post and the gods of Nairaland wont take kindly to something like that, a very long post.

"For if God did not spare the angels having sinned, but having cast them down to Tartarus, in chains of gloomy darkness, delivered them, being kept for judgment;
- 2 Peter 2:4

For if God did not forgive the angels that sinned, but cast them down into the deepest abyss {Gr. Tartarus} and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;"
- 2 Peter 2:4

One of the various sources, that first century people back in biblical times then, got their fable tales and legend info from about angels having sexual intercourse with human beings etcetera was from writings like the Book of Enoch.

Now Cave.Adullam, first thing first, you need to have the understanding of is that the content of Jude 1:6, was originally first mentioned in one of the Petrine epistles. Fyi, Jude 1:6, actually was first mentioned by Peter in 2 Peter 2:4 to be precise and I took the liberty to copy it out, as can be seen above. Jude though copying from Peter's letter, both Peter and Jude, in their individual warning letters both paraphrase the Book of Enoch, I mean look at Enoch 10: 4-9 above, to be precise. Do you notice the similarities? Anyway, it is from Peter's letter, that Jude was taking lead from, when he wrote his version of warning letter to those same believing in fairy tales mytical make-believe stories about angels and taken to all that nonsense and ingredients rubbish thats in the accursed Book of Enoch

There are many telltale signs, that betrays the Book of Enoch and gives it away as a fanstatic speculative fiction book. Some of the telltale signs, I've already before mentioned on this thread, like for example when I earlier responded to one of the nijabazaar comments. The Book of Enoch, no doubt was authored by a Greek mythology influenced first century person with an over-imaginative mind.

As I was saying, the proof of this is in the use of the term "tartarus" which has origins from a Greek mythology influence

Cave.Adullam it'll surprise you to know that the word "tartarus" is only used once in the entire Bible. Why? It is because "tartarus" is a foreign concept to Jewish beliefs. Nobody, no other writer except for Peter, in 2 Peter 2:4 used the Greek mythology influenced "tartarus" word. The word appears only once in the entire New Testament and that was in a warning letter Peter sent to those people who were into Greek mythology and the beliefs in a Greek god named Hades.

Peter was paraphrasing the Book of Enoch when he used the term "tartarus" in the content of 2 Peter 2:4, and this he did that way because he knew those reading his warning letter are in tune with the "the Book of Enoch" and will recognise where from, he paraphrased in his warning letter.

Cave.Adullam, lets break down a bit further this word "tartarus" shenanigan, erhn? As I've earlier said, the concept of Tartarus has no history or place in the Jewish belief, it is a concept that has links with ancient Greek mythology. Look at the reproduced quote of mine above, from another thread, talking about Hades etcetera.

Well fyi Cave.Adullam, according to ancient Greek mythology, Tartarus, is one of the realms within Hades. It is situated lower than even Hades (i.e. the deepest abyss of Hades), its the place of the dead, and seen to be a horrible pit of torment in the afterlife, populated by ferocious monsters and the worst of criminals.

Jude was taking cue from Peter, who first paraphrased from the Book of Enoch, as I have earlier advanced. They, as in, both Jude and Peter, used a foreign ideology not anywhere known in scripture, meaning not found in the Bible or in an average Yahweh believing Jewish mind set, but is in books, like the Book of Enoch, well-known to reprobates who would believe in something ludicrous as angels, indulging in sexual relationships with female human beings. Jude or Peter were not in their letters teaching that angels have reproductive plumbing to give seminal fluids to earthly women that will impregnate them, but were using the Book of Enoch as a reference point to warn those unprincipled in their wacko beliefs to stop slandering angels and falsely accusing angels of what they never done. The book of Enoch listed at least, 200 fallen angels, as leaders who vacated their habitation. Go read each one of the Bible verses contextually and read slowly and loudly now to see how Jude and Peter laid into these people, cast aspersions on them and their figment of imagination Cave.Adullam, lol.

Well thats what I thought too, that shouldnt this earth be free from demons and evil spirits if they are already slammed up, so Cave.Adullam, shouldnt we be asking the impostor fake Enoch who wrote that accursed fantasy book of Enoch about this erhn lol?. It is not the first time the impostor fake Enoch has contradicted himself, shot full of holes and tied himself up in a knot with deviant, outlandish, preposterous and freakish storylines.

Emphatic yes, they are also male descendants from the lineage of Seth.

As a matter of fact Cave.Adullam, the sons of God, spoken of in Job 1:6, Job 2:1 and Job 38:7, plus even Genesis 6:2 and 6:4, lol, are male descendants from the lineage of Seth, originated from Adam, the first acknowledged and kofam, son of God, lol.

LordReed:
It is your twisted thoughts I condemn revealing how hypocritical you are. The glee with which you Christians believe your god will torture people is puerile to say the least.

LordReed:
Continue with your excusing god bullshit you fool no one. The "you send yourself to hell" bullshit is unintelligent nonsense because the conditions of who goes to hell was exactly setup by god.

I already said you excel in speaking out your arse so even if you never said god tortures people what you do believe implies it. God set up a torture chamber with all the criteria it will take to be eligible. Then you get dumbass apologists like you who want to pull the wool over our eyes saying god does not send you to hell you send yourself. Take your bullshit elsewhere ain't buying. You are as transparent as thin air. Arse for a mouth dumb bìtch.

LordReed:
It's there in black and white you admit your god will put people in a place where they'll feel immense pain and you come here to expose your dishonesty. Not surprising since you excel in speaking out of your arse.

frosbel2:
Misty eyed . Lol

frosbel2:
Unable to decipher your scripture; are Jesus's words separate from those of God in the bible ? Okay , if you say so...

frosbel2:
The bible should be in alignment with itself from the old testament to the new. There should be no contradictions, none whatsoever.

frosbel2:
Toss out that crap about " those were different times, we are now under grace “. Oh yes, how convenient, please don’t let me laugh myself to 'death'.

LordReed:
This is you isn't it:
MuttleyLaff:
"Ihẹdinobi3 and I have already told you in different, similar and same ways, but you dont want to accept and acknowledge that in this context after death and without a human body, we are talking of a non-spatial phenomenon, the pain is observed to exist without any involvement of a nervous system, mechanism or other bodily part that conveys the pain message"

Stop trying to dribble your shadow.

frosbel2:
Appearances do actually underpin reality.
FYI - I harbour no ill will to any living man especially the ones who believe in myths.

frosbel2:
SATAN, the Christians best excuse for their numerous sins and frequent waywardness. Oh, the devil made me do it or let us cast out the demons of fornication, smoking and drunkenness. No accountability whatsoever – smh.

frosbel2:
Paul said ;
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."

Jesus said ;
"man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds. out of the mouth of God.

Underpinning the old testament admonishment that says;

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
and "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination;
they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them"
Thats Your bible.

Oya, start your convoluted, deceptive and cunning 'exegesis' of scripture.

Utter jokers

GRIMMJOE:
You should try explaining it to me, who knows you might end up winning a lost soul.

Born2Freak:
Lol....
Keep laughing at your ignorance