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donnie:
Every ISRAELITE is a priest and king to the world, not to or over other Israelites. In Israel there are Levites but we are not all back in our land and neither do we have temple worship. Also MESSIAH will accurately divide us into our tribes when he comes. So no need for Levites whose work is assigned to the temple because there is currently no temple worship. One is a Levite by birth, not by stupid so-called faith Christians delude themselves about.

You are not after truth. Neither am I after engaging anyone in endless discussions.

It is YAHUAH's SHABBAT, not yours.

He gave a commandment and the wise will hear and Keep it.

I am on NL, not to have discussions about scriptures, but simply to sound a WARNING.

SHALOM.
#AwakeOIsrael.

donnie, please spare me your emotional outbursts because God has no given us the spirit of fear and/or timidity, but of power, love and self-control. I know you are skilled at checking out renderings interlopers and all that, so will know that, self-control also means sound mind or sound judgment. Exercise control, exercise sound judgment and reflection as you usually do, lol.

I had already advanced warned you, not to pull and/or be pulling a straw man fallacy on me. Instead of doing that, ask me questions, if you arent sure of anything I've typed. That's what I do,
which is why I ask you questions, so I wouldnt fall into same trap, lol. Discoveries are made from questioning, and advances, made possible by answering questions, which might or not, lead to more and/or other questions, lol, brother. The questioning only stops, when you hit a void, lol or a finality, lol.

I smh at you. Is Adam a Levite, erhn? Is father Abraham a Levite, hmm?. Is Yahsua a Levite?

Hang on. Wait a minute. You want to talk about truth, right? I gave you a chance to come up with answers, but you as usual came up with nothing, when I asked and said:
"Why did God rest, lol? What's the reason why God rested? I am sorry I lol, its just I already know what cliché and/or scripted answers to expect coming, lol. You have a right heart and good intentions, but be careful because the road to damnation is paved with good intentions.
Deliberate on, Matthew 27:51, Hebrews 8:13 and Hebrews 10:29-20"

donnie, we are making a full circle back to Eden. That is the truth, not Israel. We are heading straight back to in the beginning. Adam and Eve fell from grace. We are going back to grace, lol. Alleluia. Praise the Lord in His Highest.

Mariangeles:
Forgive my error.

I wouldn't lose sleep over it. You are just as human like everyone of us and on top, just shows that, you don't walk on water, lol.

Mariangeles:
Believers feel accountable to God Almighty and to humanity.

StrikeBack:
QED

Dont go QED, thinking you are off the hook. That is a simple human error made by Mariangeles up there. Believers know. Not feel. It is, as like how, one knows that one knows.

StrikeBack:
Who told theists accountable??

Everyone whether theists or not theist, a believer or not a believer, atheist or not an atheist, is going to make account for every word, thought, deed, action, behaviour etcetera made and/or not made.

Mariangeles:
When challenges arise, the atheists are quick to judge and point fingers, especially at Christians, about what they should do, shouldn't do, should've done, and so forth...
They talk and mock God with reckless abandon, without making any contributions to humanity themselves.
The atheists criticize religion and religious people, but these are the same people that rise to action when situation demands it, because it's an obligation that needs to be fulfilled, without which they'd be held accountable.

Now, the question is: DO ATHEISTS HAVE THAT SAME SENSE OF OBLIGATION TO HUMANITY?
WHO OR WHAT DO THEY OWE ACCOUNTABILITY?
IF NOT, WHY DO THEY CRITICIZE OTHERS THAT DO?

Atheists think they are smarter and/or cleverer than what to them is an imaginary God. They think, left to them, they could have easily made a better world than what's playing out, lol. Atheists, like to believe, they have answers, if not all, to challenges, problems, situations etcetera going on in the world.

Atheists, are specialists, in pointing fingers and apportioning blame to every Jack, Jill, their kids and dog, except themselves, lol

Atheists, are a law unto themselves, and they enjoy mounting nd riding on a fanciful and high decorated horse. Atheists love strutting about like as if a peacock showing off because it wants to hump

Atheists, don't fart, even when an atheist farts, it doesn't smell because it is a deoderised fart. Atheists don't have skeletons in their closets. Atheists are saints, butter and/or ice cream doesn't melt in their mouths.

budaatum:
You can not possibly know what is in the mind of Atum so you must always ask Atum questions!

Here, therefore, is one. What is this "science" that you mention?

This is the first time I ever will come across an OtemAtum post that made sense, is too correct and completely bang on right on the money. I literally was jaw dropped hanging on the floor flabbergastedly reading the post. It got a "like" much deserved stamp from me, lol.

budaatum, the "science" mentioned in OtemAtum' s post there, is nothing other than the "God Given Potentials" deposited in each and/or every one of us. It is given according to US each person's abilities, power, circumstance etcetera.

PS: Struck out US. Must have been the gremlins who slipped that in, lol.

sonmvayina:
They are all laws of God, not Moses, they are for the Jews alone.. The rest of mankind are to follow the 7 noahide laws..

Nope, we are doing a full cirlce. We are going back to the very beginning, further from Noahide laws. We are going back to Eden, lol

Daejoyoung:
Oh l thought you were a jew. So tell me, these laws such as giving a raped woman to her rapist to marry, and stuff like that, are you saying they are from God?

He is neither here nor there. He behaves, as if like a goat, thats confused after straying on to an astroturf. Next you'll hear him talk about, will be Marduk and/or Enki, lol. Shows you what's going on with him, lol

sonmvayina:
Saviour from what?

How you "Saviour from what"? This has no meaning the way you constructed the sentence and/or question. Please rephrase the question

donnie:
Besides the 7th day, All the Feasts of YAH are Sabbath's and I have shown you how YAHUSHA kept them.

donnie, c'mon now, I never asked you nah, to show whether or not, YAHUSHA kept the 7th day and All the Feasts of YAH Sabbaths. There is a method(s) and/or reason(s), used to ask you each and/or all the questioning (e.g. numbered question etcetera)

donnie:
I don't have to reply you, talkless of using whatever format you propose.

This sort of emotional outburst, is not a healthy manner nor wise way, to take this. I have maximum respect for you. People like you are few and far in between. I easily would oblige you if the shoe was on the other foot and are make known what your preferences are and/or were. If you hypothetically have asked me to jump, I would gladly oblige after asking you how high. Whats so difficult in obeying simple , innocent and harmless rules nah donnie?

donnie:
And try not to ask ten questions at the same time. Who does that? Abi am I living for you?

Repeating the ten questions wouldnt have happened, if you have dutifully answered them in the first place nah, lol. Dare I say, correctly, properly and in numbered order answered them, lol

donnie:
Your statement about being complicit for using electricity is the same kind the Pharisees tried to trap Messiah with and he corrected them. Even those who work in the electricity company may choose to shelve all extra work besides providing electricity for all, which in itself is a good work.

It wasnt a trick question donnie. The two were simple questions that required binary Yes or No answers, that will allow the discourse to progress on, but well ...

Muttleylaff: ... Mark 2:23-27, contextually, even shows how our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, Jesus Christ, explains, that God did not have the Sabbath and then man to serve this day. That, the Sabbath, actually and/or in the first place, was made to serve man and to be for his/her benefit, as well, as being. Our bodies are not concrete, cement nor wood. We need to rest, so to regain expended strength and power so to manage and/or maintain our health, well-being and wellness. The other truth of the whole Sabbath matter, is that God didnt necessarily have to rest, but He, leading by example, did. He acted in this way, to show us how to act.

Left to us, we will work round the clock, running and chasing after money until we run ourselves down, run out of steam and then unceremoniously fall to the ground and prematurely just like that drop dead. You dont lead, "thou shall not... thou shall keep my ...," by lip service, you lead by example. The "lead by example," is not the main thing, in positively influencing us, it is the only thing, lol. Leading by example is the most powerful advice you can give to anyone, and so after the sixth day, God rested on the seventh, lol

donnie:
The Shabbat is for our benefit, it is not a punishment. Messiah taught the law, bringing proper understanding.

Gbam!. God bless you real good, just right there and straighaway wherever you are right now. Amen, lol.

Yes ooo. Messiah taught the law, bringing proper understanding. YAHUSHA, even taught about what happens after death and revealed some understanding of what happens after death. Of course, you know nah, lol, that Hell aka Hades is not a Jewish concept nah, lol, that's all about Greek mythology, lol. We disgress, so I go no further, lol

So, the proper understanding, is what? YAHUSHA, gave the understanding of how to distinct between the tradition of man and the word of YAH. It is the understanding to make the distinction between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law, lol. Praise God. Alleluia

You can see from my pasted mention above there, which is an excerpt, cut out and pasted from my first post on this thread, that I agree and I am in tune with almost all, if not all, you are saying, BUT, lol, yeah, its capital BUT, there's a bigger and simple picture brother, lol. OK, here is a question, why did God rest, lol? What's the reason why God rested? I am sorry I lol, its just I already know what cliché and/or scripted answers to expect coming, lol. You have a right heart and good intentions, but be careful because the road to damnation is paved with good intentions.
Deliberate on. Matthew 27:51, Hebrews 8:13 and Hebrews 10:19-20)

donnie:
So it will not be a sin to heal someone suffering with sickness. Or to dress an accident victim's wound. Or to help remove one of your cattle that falls into a pit. Or to help an elder person to with her bags. That will be a good thing and commendable on the Shabbat.

Exactamente! The spirit of the law things. If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know, lol

donnie:
Also the priests who worked in the temple too had to work for others who came to worship. In such a case they are excused.

We all, afterall donnie, are a royal priesthood, a people for His own possession, lol. Please dont do a straw man fallacy on me

donnie:
No one keeps the Shabbat by mistake, you will know you're doing so. I round up all my buying, selling or cooking Friday evening. I could even clean the house on Friday evening against the Shabbat. You should choose to stay away from careless jesting, or unwholesome communication. Those who work with me know "no work on SHABBAT" no matter how pressing our target. Give attention to meditation on the Torah at home etc. Have a good meal, make a feast. You may welcome or visit a family or friend. Sanctify that day unto YAHUAH and REST.

Every day is sanctified to the LORD. All days are the LORD's, the Owner of all days brother, lol. Please dont be a Pharisee, dont be a "Far-to-see"

donnie:
Funny enough you did not ask all these brilliant questions when you were told to close work and rest on the 1st day of the week in honor of the SUN god (Baal).

C'mon now donnie, smh, you're bigger than this to be descending to blows under the belt cheap shots. Fyi, I know how to and/or can fight fire with fire. Please, you dont want to again go down this dirty, murky santimonous route with me because I will suffer you gladly as I wade in with you, to show you that, you really arent smelling of lavender nor a bunch of sweet smelling roses

PS: I'll holler you once I get to our "Eli, Eli..." discourse, lol

Born2Freak:
Always thinking that you are smart.

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frosbel2:
[s]If you think I will waste my time writing essays in response to the convoluted garbage you keep presenting as theology, you are even more deluded than I thought , lol.[/s]

There you go thinking too highly of yourself. Mr Gaslighting professional, nobody is interested in you writing pissful essays.
I am ONLY interested in, directly holding you responsible, to show me and back up with unmitigated bible verse proof that presents Jesus' own red words, in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, of being against supporting gayism, as you succinctly used the term.

Quit behaving like a knobhead, that's refusing to enter and have the business done. To raise pẹnis nobi by force, and its you who first raised up this matter, but now having problems to sustain and with that, unable to show Jesus' red words to the effect, lol. Smh

weezyk:
In a video that surface online, you can hear the pastor saying that the virus will start from China and will cause a lot of damage; doctors will give it a name. He also said they will quarantine some and the sickness will look like ebola.
In fact just watch the video to see full prophecy
Watch Video below
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"Beloved, don't believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God,
because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
- 1 John 4:1

I have watched this YouTube clip on Instagram before here and its being on Instagram since God knows when. Until this guys has been confirmed tested, it is nothing other than a lucky break. Isnt he the same guy that predicted Hilary will win and be the president, hmm?

yenereal:
See carry this your pastor and fake prophecy go one side.

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yenereal:
Is it prophecy we're looking for now or solution? I don't know what's wrong with most of you and religion in this part of the country. Why didn't he also see the solution? Be careful o.

He mentioned that vaccination is the solution nah. Wetin more you wan hear more than that?

budaatum:
My cousin's, 50, died over the weekend after brief illness. Left three children and wife.
Have you lost anyone to Covid-19?
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographical-distribution-2019-ncov-cases

oboy81:
Sorry for your loss my Bro.

OtemAtum:
Sorry for the loss, but is it Corona Virus?

MuttleyLaff:
No one is mistaken that soja come, soja go, but barracks dey still remain. In 1720, it was the plague, in 1820, it was cholera, in 1920, was Spanish flu and Ghen-Ghen in 2020 Corovirus aka COVID-19 aka Aunty Coro.

Whether it was manufactured or not, you got it right, is besides the point. Is inconsequential, what is certain, trust me, is that, already doing press-ups, sit-ups and other exercise preps waiting in the wing to come in 2120, is going to be a mutant, another new virus, another PANdemic/PLANdemic. I've just up there highlighted an obvious pattern, notice I've deliberately not mentioned Bird flu, not mentioned Swine flu, didnt mention Ebola. There is no doubt, that Aunty Coro soon after having her fill will pack her bags and leave. COVID-19 will soon blow over, and we will have survived it. We will survive it and without any scathe, mainly because of claiming the promises in Psalms 91:5-16

Now, here's the deal. Aunty coro is another the sort of hardest kind of teachers, that gives you the test first and then the lesson afterwards, lol. Now here are few itemised list of lessons to learn, lol:

Lesson #1/
Washing your hands is one of the simplest ways you can protect yourself and others from Aunty Coro. Is it a coincidence that there's western side of the country parlance that says "Ai mọ ọwọ wẹ, ni aibagba jẹun, ọmọ toba mọ ọwọ wẹ, a bagba jẹ" loosely translated means "elders wont permit kids with unwashed and not cleaned hands, eat with them" Washed and/or clean hands, is a barest minimum health requirement for the privilege of joining the elders at the table, to dine and having a meal with them, lol. We hear that cleanliness is next to godliness, but are you aware of how many before Aunty Coro and still do now, who never wash their hands before eating and/or before putting things in their mouth, lol erhn?

Our Lord and Saviour of the world is coming. He is coming so He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot, without any kind of stain or without a spot (i.e. Ephesians 5:27) Aunty Coro has come to teach everyone a coded lesson, the physical and spiritual side about this, lol.

Lesson #2/
You are more at risk of serious illness and/or death, if Aunty Coro catches you and you're 60 years of age or over, people over 75 are particularly vulnerable. Now here's is where a Aunty Coro's lesson in social grace, lol, comes in.

In the UK, for example, thousands of people deemed in one way or the other, as most vulnerable to Aunty Coro infection, have begun receiving free food parcels. Consignment boxes containing pasta, cereal, fruit, tea bags, toilet roll, medicines etcetera are now left on the vulnerables' doorsteps. As part of the "social shielding" strategy protecting hedges/protective walls are raised to shield the elderly and other vulnerable, yet making sure they have everything they need This is what true religion is. This is religion that is true and religion, that God our Father, accepts as pure and faultless, lol, that Aunty Coro's lesson is teaching everyone (i.e. James 1:27)

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budaatum, dahling, please accept my profound condolences on the passing of your no doubt dear and loving cousin. May God bless you all with the fortitude to bear the passing. Amen.

COVID-19, aka Convenient Virus, aside its 60-70 and over age bracket target, apparently, also preys on anyone, possibly the case with your cousin too, with debilitating and underlining sickness/illness/ailment, that has set their immune system comprised, hence making them sitting ducks for this vicious virus dubbed Aunty Coro by Naijas, like our own delishpot, lol.

donnie:
Perhaps you should try proving how your law of liberty faults my position using scriptures. I live by that same law of liberty if you must know. But I uphold the law and commandments of YAH.

I merely was checking and to be reassured you do, that's all donnie. Nothing to do with proving and/or finding faults

I am glad you admit you live by the law of liberty, but what of its application donnie, lol, how is it applied? How strong is this law? When was it instituted? Has it always being there, just as the law of aerodynamics had been, before taken advantage of, by the Wright brothers, lol, hmm? Please donnie, give 2-3 illustrative examples, of how you exercising and/or applying the law of liberty (i.e. James 1:25, James 2:12 and Romans 8:2 placed/set side by side with Galatians 6:2 and 1 Corinthians 9:21, to see this interesting effect, lol)

donnie:
I'm waiting for the questions.

Clear up, the previously and/or already earlier asked questions first please. Only then, will allowance be available or be made, for more, if necesssary, question(s) to ask, lol

When answering each and everyone of the yet unresponded to, questions, please make sure you reply back using the same format the questions were asked, this meaning, the questions were numbered up, so I expect your replies to match the order, number, manner and way the questions were asked. Remember, I confessed that I am trying to unwrap and unravel you, so to see how woke you are, lol, you are deep, but I am curious about the depth. I dont do assumption, if I am not sure of how you stand, I'll ask questions, in order to establish, not assume. Sometimes, I ask feeler questions, which serves as a means to gauge how a person is on a particular interest, lol

Listen, I'll tell you what. I'll make it easier by repeating all the questions that are outstanding from your end, lol. They are:

1/ How many sabbaths do you to your understanding know of?
2/ Please are you able to list these sabbaths' name? If yes what are they?
3/ Did Jesus partake of any Passover meal, just before He was arrested?
4/ How many sabbaths were there, between the the run up to Jesus' arrest and up to the day He resurrected?

1/ What is it, really do you mean by "Authority"?
2/ What biblical references are you basing "sign/ mark of Authority on the Earth" on, hmm?
3/ If you want to advance that Rome is the beast, which I havent much of a qualms about, then who and/or what is the second beast donnie, hmm?

1/ Do you flick on the electric switches in your home providing electricity coming from the national grid and managed or supplied by the local Electricity Distribution Company (DISCO), hmm?
2/ Have you considered that if you believe Saturday is Sabbath, and so is a sin to work on that day, then you're complicit in breaking the Sabbath through your making use of electricity generated by another working on Saturday, erhn?

donnie:
... Endeavour to put forth your arguments for or against clearly.

donnie, sorry to disappoint you, but I dont do arguments. I never and I wont start with you, lol. I'll lay down a stick on the ground, placed alongside and/or besides yours and the work, as simply as that, lol, is well done.

donnie:
Did I mention what Beast Rome was? Well I was referring to the 4th Beast. While some posit that Rome is the forth Beast of Revelation, others say it's the US.


Well I'd say both are currect 'cos the US is modern Rome/ Egypt/ Babylon.

And yes I know the law of liberty.

Never mind as I said, Let's leave all that for LAWMA, lol.

OK, what about the electricity questions asked you.

Of course, I expect you'll know of the law of liberty nah, lol, but what of its application donnie, lol, how is it applied? How strong is this law? When was it instituted? Has it always being there, just as the law of aerodynamics had been, before taken advantage of, by the Wright brothers, lol, hmm?

donnie, oh donnie, I have an arsenal of questions, I have a thousand and one questions to roll out and ask you, but at this rate of you dodging, ducking and diving questions, I dont think you can keep up mehn, lol, especially when those on the ground arent properly and in order answered yet, lol. Smh. Too many questions mehn, lol, and thinking of them right now, just makes me lol, to myself.

donnie:
What question is that... From you?

donnie, please, like I at first advised, go back to my first two reproduced mentioned pasted above. Carefully read and thoughtfully follow them through. Dont be put off by long posts

You mentioned that Rome was the beast. Fair enough, I then asked you, who and what is the second beast. I also advised against obfuscation s, meaning what did you mean by Authority and what biblical references were you basing it on, lol. Scroll up nah, you couldn't have missed them, lol

Even the separate other #1 &#2 questions about electricity, you didn't answer, lol

PS: Are you conversant with the law of liberty, hmm donnie, lol?

donnie:
I am telling you what the RCC says. I'm not quoting scripture. It's even in thier catechism.

Christianity is all about Sun worship.

You are preaching to the choir. Let's stick to the scripture and leave RCC and their catechism for now with LAWMA.

The question about the other beast, is still unanswered, lol, by you. It was hotting, like being on fire, when I was just watching and reading in the back, but could get in on your threads, then I saw you open another thread that I thought to myself, look man, just jump before everything get swamped and buried under, lol.

donnie:
YAHUSHA kept the shabbat -Luke 4:16, Mark 1:21.

YAHUSHA kept the Feast of Passover -John 2:23.

YAHUSHA kept the Feast of tabernacles John 7:2-10.

YAHUSHA Kept the Passover with his disciples Luke 22:7-19 and so on.

And his disciples continued after he left because they were the people of YAH and feared YAHUAH

donnie, is it too much to do and/or difficult for you ni, to give your answers back, in the same format and same numbered order, the questions were asked no?

It is way people are evasive or trying to dodge that they employ that tactic. We are all on this to learn from each other, so let's pack in playing funny and unhelpful games, lol.

donnie:
you

Donnie, wait nah. Wait for me getting to your 2-3 threads I left on the back burners, lol.

donnie:
It's just a simple commandment. The only reason we fight it is because of what the BEAST (Rome) did changing YAH's laws. And they agree they changed it. They say it is their sign/ mark of Authority on the Earth.

donnie, please let's not resort to obfuscation.
1/ What is it, really do you mean by "Authority"?
2/ What biblical references are you basing "sign/ mark of Authority on the Earth" on, hmm?

Also, if you want to advance that Rome is the beast, which I havent much of a qualms about, then who and/or what is the second beast donnie, hmm?

donnie:
But YAH says,
Exodus 31:13, "Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you."

Our forefathers suffered and we're killed by the Roman church and several other authorities for insisting on Keeping the Shabbat. Let their blood no more be in vein.

#AwakeOIsrael

donnie, with all due respects, you keep banding about and waving Exodus 31:13 in peoples' faces. I have the following question, I asked you in one of the 2-3 unfinished threads, I have posted yet, so I think good to jump the queue and definitely ask the question here, which is:
1/ How many sabbaths do you to your understanding know of?
2/ Please are you able to list these sabbaths' name? If yes what are they?
3/ Did Jesus partake of any Passover meal, just before He was arrested?
4/ How many sabbaths were there, between the the run up to Jesus' arrest and up to the day He resurrected?

donnie:
I sincerely wish it wasn't that lengthy. But just in case it has anything to do with trivializing the 7th day rest, it's wrong brother.

donnie, forgive me, sorry, but we all know that, lies gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on, so said Winston Churchill. It's just a matter of, extraordinary lies, require extraordinary garrulous write-ups to counter the extraordinary lies

Mind you, no offence intended, just that, a lie, up there is to be taking to mean, it is an assertion that is believed to be false

donnie:
Kindly explain. So YAH was stupid when he rested on the 7th day after creation and hallowed it?

Read above, the answer and/or explanation is covered in there, lol

donnie:
WHAT DID THE SAVIOR SAY ABOUT THE COMMANDMENTS?
DID HE (YAHUSHA HAMASHIACH) CONTRADICT MOSES? DID HE DO AWAY WITH THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS...
EG. KEEPING THE SABBATH HOLY?

Deuteronomy 4:5-10
5 Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the Lord my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.
6 Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.
7 For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the Lord our God is in all things that we call upon him for?
8 And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?
9 Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach them thy sons, and thy sons' sons;
10 Specially the day that thou stoodest before the Lord thy God in Horeb, when the Lord said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS...
SHALOM.

MuttleyLaff:
"Then Jesus declared,
“The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
(i.e. The Sabbath was made to meet the needs of people,
and not people to meet the requirements of the Sabbath)"
- Mark 2:27

Mark 2:23-27, contextually, even shows how our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, Jesus Christ, explains, that God did not have the Sabbath and then man to serve this day. That, the Sabbath, actually and/or in the first place, was made to serve man and to be for his/her benefit, as well, as being. Our bodies are not concrete, cement nor wood. We need to rest, so to regain expended strength and power so to manage and/or maintain our health, well-being and wellness. The other truth of the whole Sabbath matter, is that God didnt necessarily have to rest, but He, leading by example, did. He acted in this way, to show us how to act. Leave to us we will work round the clock, running and chasing after money until we run ourselves down, run out of steam and then unceremoniously fall to the ground and prematurely just like that drop dead. You dont lead, "thou shall not... thou shall keep my ...," by lip service, you lead by example. The "lead by example," is not the main thing, in positively influencing us, it is the only thing, lol. Leading by example is the most powerful advice you can give to anyone, and so after the sixth day, God rested on the seventh, lol

"Let no man disturb you about food or about drink or in the distinctions of feasts and beginnings of months and Sabbaths,
(i.e. Let no man therefore judge you in food, or in drink, or in respect of a holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days)"
- Colossians 2:16

"And after the sabbaths, it being dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb."
- Matthew 28:1

Now, my two beloved, lovingly dear loggerhead with each other brothers shadeyinka and blueAgent, locking horns on the matter of when is Sabbath in regards to being Saturday, Sunday or whatever day, let me draw an image to conjure up a picture in your minds to illustrate, whats going on here. I remember, when young and growing up as a child or kid, lights out was 9pm or 21:00 hours. This means, whether, I feel like it or not, whether I want to or not, it meant it was bedtime. It was not open to discussion, no debates, no arguments, it just was not negotiable other than I have to be in bed by 9pm or 21:00 hours, BUT, lol, when I finally came of age, when I transitioned from childhood to adulthood, when I have developed completely and reached maturity, I didnt necessarily have to stick to that 9pm or 21:00 hours lights out and bedtime seemingly unarbitrary order, lol.

The 9pm or 21:00 hours lights out and bedtime, seemingly unarbitrary order, lol, was made for me and my siblings, not my siblings and I for the 9pm or 21:00 hours lights out and bedtime, seemingly unarbitrary order. It was a laid down rule, set there for our needs, not us for its needs. Our needs, like for example, to refreshen our tired bodies, you of course, know when we were kids, how full of beans and/or energy we are, growing up, jumping up here and there, rolling and runnning up all over the place, tumbling down the hill etcetera.

The long and short of the nolstagic story, is that, now that we are grown, now that we've matured in sense, wisdom and become disciplined. sometimes we go to bed before 9pm or 21:00 hours, after 9pm or 21:00 hours, at 9pm or 21:00 hours and surprisingly, maybe with lights on, lol. The reality now, is that the hard and fast rule is no more there. At my age, it is now flexible, is what Colossians 2:16 above is saying, and no man can judge me for when and how I choose to have my rest (i.e. sabbath)

By the way, the plural sabbath in Colossians 2:16 and Matthew 28:1 above, this particularly serving as a fao of another brother, going by the moniker name donnie, is not talking about the seventh day rest but all days of rest which includes the seventh day (i.e. Saturday). There are sabbaths that dont fall on the Saturday, but actually do fall during the week and/or in mid week, lol.

What are we saying here, what is the point made here, lol brethren blueAgent, shadeyinka and my dear pleasing and warm-hearted donnie, lol , it is that the time is coming, indeed it’s here now, when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship Him that way, lol (i.e. John 4:23) For God has qualified us and made us competent as ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life, lol (i.e. 2 Corinthians 3:6)

Another quick one, before I close on this. I confidently am sure, each one of you knows about the implication of double solid white lines on our roads, lol. You know about obeying the letter of the double solid white lines law behind it, lol. What of, when to obey the spirit of the double solid white lines law, lol?

As a rule of thumb, I simply don't tell people what to think, I let and/or leave them to think and/or see things out for themselves, lol. I beam a high powered torchlight out for them to see things, the subject, its shape, the intricate body outlines etcetera, what's under the bonnet, whats in the boot, what in the engine, lol by themselves. The time is now, if ever there is a time, to rightly divided the Word of truth. There is no better time than right now for the truth to prevail. It's just heart breaking to watch and see that the light of the truth, can be harsh to those that have been far too long in the dark. Smh, brings mist to my eyes, all this. There are two kinds of light, the glow that illuminates, sheds light upon something for people to clearly see and the glare that obscures because people squint and shut their eyes, as the truth is too harsh for their eyes to see with, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
Noah, Abraham, Jacob and the ancient World all knew God's law. About commandments that have been existing since the beginning of the World, that Apostle John confirms has been existing from the beginning.

The law of aerodynamics has been existing since the beginning of the world. When the Wright brothers took advantage of this law, it defied, nullified, made inoperative and made it look useless, another law that says, what goes up, must come crashily down.

Without proof-texting with 2 John 1:6, like you've attempted to do, let it be known that, if you know love, if you understand what love is, if you love yourself. You would rest and not work to the full, all out and flat out until drop dead.

Maximus69, is coaxing and corralling you, but despite all that, you're headstrong and obstinate to the extent of digging in your heels to not bulge.

Let me ask you these questions:
1/ Do you flick on the electric switches in your home providing electricity coming from the national grid and managed or supplied by the local Electricity Distribution Company (DISCO), hmm?
2/ Have you considered that if you believe Saturday is Sabbath, and so is a sin to work on that day, then you're complicit in breaking the Sabbath through your making use of electricity generated by another working on Saturday, erhn?

PS: donnie, my profoundest apologies, please forgive me if you had thought I had abandoned the dinning table, we both, were breaking and sharing bread on. The truth of the matter is I havent but it got caught left on the back burner along with two to threads other threads linked with you and subjects that you are passionate about. I am frantically doing catching with those your 2-3 threads in addition to around another other 2-3 threads of other interlocutors. I kept seeing your rear lights ahead of in the distant, I just smh thinking to myself, I need push foot on the pedal and try to catch up with you. I couldnt take the lagging behind anymore, especially seeing you firing on full cylinders, I just had to pull myself away, to come to interject the above, lol

I promise it would be worth your patience and waiting while, when I do get back to you on the unfinished 2-3 threads. I have quite a few startling and/or remarkable info in each 2-3 of the threads, I'll be advancing and/or sharing, lol

Please, donnie carefully and thoughfully go over two reproduced posts of mine brought here from another thread, as the content are relevant to the subject matter here, and also may I have your answer to the two above easy, simple, striaghtforward and direct questions. Thank you

Born2Freak:
[s]Sharrap.
You always act like the smartest person in the room whereas you know nothing.[/s]

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Convid80:
Good day wonderful family.
The good lord keep us all.

I have serious issues to table before us.
I am a privileged minister of the gospel

Every believer is a privileged minister of the gospel

Convid80:
... but I am yet to respond fully to the call.
I want to start up a business first before ministry.
I am troubled because I also desire to start my ministerial work but If I do, it will involve me putting in the resources I am planning to invest in a personal business.
Now things are getting really funny more like am being stubborn, I have started experiencing some blockades.
I don't want to think it's related to my delay to fully respond to God's call in my life.
Could it be a bad idea to start business first?

"²⁸Which of you, wishing to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost to see if he has the resources to complete it?
²⁹Otherwise, if he lays the foundation and is unable to finish the work, everyone who sees it will ridicule him,
³⁰saying, ‘This man could not finish what he started to build.’
³¹Or what king on his way to war with another king will not first sit down and consider whether he can engage with ten thousand men the one coming against him with twenty thousand?
³²And if he is unable, he will send a delegation while the other king is still far off, to ask for terms of peace. "
- Luke 14:28-32

Without details, such as your status, as in meaning, whether you're single or married. Whether you have dependants, whether you have financial commitments (e.g. mortgage repayment etcetera). Without knowing what the nature and scale of the ministerial work is, it will be foolhardy to advance anything to you except for now to sign-post you to the above instructive Luke 14:28-32

frosbel2:
More rehashed BS.

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Arent you a coprophile ni, hmm?

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Share how your version of the convenient virus sucks and/or makes you feel.

I especially and genuinely feel for my two favourite brothers neighbours. The two know themselves, lol. Dont worry guys, this will sooner than later all blow over. Amen.

Born2Freak:
MuttleyLaff, you sound like someone based abroad.

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StrikeBack:
Same way most MOG started their "Business"

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So that makes it alright, then, hmm?

MuttleyLaff:
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Christians need saved from celebrating mediocrity. Christians need saved from shoddiness, need saved from worthless teaching and/or preaching.

Christians need saved from covenant prosperity principles, as taught by moGs, that we all know is a sham, and that all na wash. Christians need saved from moGs, sitting on the back of Christians', with a dangling carrot, tied to a stick, and stretched out in from of them, lol, while the moGs enjoy prospering from the Christians' toils, sweats, tears, blood and guts.

StrikeBack:
It's all about the money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csu0W6aLQ-0

Nice tune, of course, clean money is good, lol, but, lol, dont believe the hype, lol

No, no, it's not all about the money. No, in fact and for that matter, not all about the dirty flithy lucre money, sef

What is sad right now, is that yall are yet to learn, one out of the many 99 lessons of Convenient virus, aka Aunty Coro, aka COVID-19, aka Coronavirus, lol, which is, money, in such a time like this, can, will and/or does fail, smh lol.

HellVictorinho:
Hook or crook things.
You're blessed.
The name of the church should be "Victory Ministries".
My contract must have certain clauses.
Wetin remain?

Run from the wolves in sheep clothing to running into the open welcoming hands of a salivating bear, lol

GRIMMJOE:
MuttleyLaff, hope you can clearly see how much pain people are in, maybe I should take his advice and open a church, who knows.

HellVictorinho:
I'm ready to usher.
50-50.
Non-negotiable.

Well suited to be a 50-50 non negotiable ready usher calling and/or showing others in to a satanic & doomed gathering, hmm?

Ogodolacomedy:
This is the best season when you can show your lover how much you love them, because everybody is forced to quarantine.

This goes along with the popular musician Teni as she show off her Man jokingly on her twitter page.

She sings for him, though some of her fans didn't know he is her manager known as Funsho, but she jokingly touch his lamba while singing for him telling him 30secs is not enough for her.

softwerk:
Confirmed Lesbo trying to deceive the gullible!
I dare to say Teni has not seen a cucumber since 1991

quintessence007:
funny you no one's gullible there's just no time for unnecessary argument over someone else's life.
Lesbian o, heterosexual o. It's her life.

Ladyhippolyta88:
Is it your lesbo

softwerk:
See them?!
I knew they will all come after me!
My Confession: Preek is super satisfying, like coca cola you'll ask for more!

Ladyhippolyta88:
Stop taking weed

Tell dem. Na dem dem. Una no know say, nothing wey igbo no fit cause and/or curse pesin sef. Hin bin like say, igbo don scatter yam head yafinyafin comot. Look her profile pic nah, prolly original igbo pesin already, if not, then by now, don become a honorary igbo pesin be dat, lol. Pardon the pun. igbo kwenu, hey! x3. That dealer, nah badt guy, lol

People just like taking panadol for someone's else headache, even when already mentioned the guy is her manager