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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Sin That Cannot Be Forgiven? by MuttleyLaff: 9:00pm On Nov 29, 2020
Bodydialect57:
Why then was Gehazi cursed, he and his generation yet unborn?
C'mon nah Bodydialect57. Dont you know that God is the original Scientist and prophet Elisha already familiar because of his relationship with the Scientist, would know about the science of heritable diseases. Leprosy, is a contagious disease, so I won't be surprised, the blessing left him open to come under a curse and so accursed. Leprosy, afterall is caused by bacteria anyway. I am sure Elisha was simply activating some known grave consequence for taking infected things
Christianity Etc › Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by MuttleyLaff: 7:47pm On Nov 29, 2020
Kobojunkiee:
That is a load of bullocks!
Goshen360:
That man was speaking lots of rubbish that doesn't answer to the rest of the bible....study the book of romans, you will understand Genesis. Btw, that man in the video wasn't teaching expository, he was only conjuring things together unfortunately.
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Sin That Cannot Be Forgiven? by MuttleyLaff: 7:35pm On Nov 29, 2020
Acehart:
What’s up? What was Gehazi’s sin?
Gehazi’s sin was covetousness.

Acehart:
You said he lied against man; did Ananias and Sapphira not lie against man, though from the Apostle’s reaction, it is made known that they lied against the Holy Spirit?
Prophet Elisha, said his spirit was present when Gehazi lied. He didnt say Gehazi blasphemed or lied against the Holy Spirit, but Apostle Peter specified what really transpired between Ananias and Sapphira in regards with the Holy Spirit
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Sin That Cannot Be Forgiven? by MuttleyLaff: 7:04pm On Nov 29, 2020
Bodydialect57:
Did Gehazi commit the unforgivable sin?
Can what he did be termed unforgivable sin??
"20Gehazi, the servant of Elisha the man of God, said to himself, “My master was too easy on Naaman, this Aramean, by not accepting from him what he brought. As surely as the Lord lives, I will run after him and get something from him.”
21 So Gehazi hurried after Naaman. When Naaman saw him running toward him, he got down from the chariot to meet him. “Is everything all right?” he asked.
22“Everything is all right,” Gehazi answered.
“My master sent me to say, ‘Two young men from the company of the prophets have just come to me from the hill country of Ephraim. Please give them a talent of silver and two sets of clothing.’”
23“By all means, take two talents,” said Naaman. He urged Gehazi to accept them, and then tied up the two talents of silver in two bags, with two sets of clothing. He gave them to two of his servants, and they carried them ahead of Gehazi.
24When Gehazi came to the hill, he took the things from the servants and put them away in the house.
He sent the men away and they left.
25When he went in and stood before his master, Elisha asked him, “Where have you been, Gehazi?”
“Your servant didn’t go anywhere,” Gehazi answered.
26But Elisha said to him, “Was not my spirit with you when the man got down from his chariot to meet you?
Is this the time to take money or to accept clothes—or olive groves and vineyards, or flocks and herds, or male and female slaves?

27Naaman’s leprosy will cling to you and to your descendants forever.” Then Gehazi went from Elisha’s presence and his skin was leprous—it had become as white as snow."

- 2 Kings 5:20-27

How long is a piece of string? I rather would have: Did A&E commit the unforgivable sin? Can what A&E did be termed unforgivable sin?

If Apostle Peter lied three times while denying knowing Yahshua HaMashiah aka Jesus Christ and King David who was a killer and adulterer aren't deemed to have flouted Matthew 12:31-32, then, I dont see how Gehazi would have either, considering the fact that, Gehazi lied against a human being, and not the Holy Spirit. The human being's spirit he lied against witnessed the lie, and thus clearly, shows that there's no connect here in all this with Matthew 12:31-32.
Christianity Etc › Re: Before Annas And The Court Of Caiaphas by MuttleyLaff:
Ellen G. White Writings
The Desire of Ages


Table of contents https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130.3359/toc

Chapter 1—“God With Us”
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130.21
Chapter 2—The Chosen People
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130.61#61
Chapter 3—“The Fullness of the Time”
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130.82#82
Chapter 4—Unto You a Saviour
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130.120#120
Chapter 5—The Dedication
Chapter 6—“We Have Seen His Star”
Chapter 7—As a Child
Chapter 8—The Passover Visit
Chapter 9—Days of Conflict
Chapter 10—The Voice in the Wilderness
Chapter 11—The Baptism
Chapter 12—The Temptation
Chapter 13—The Victory
Chapter 14—“We Have Found the Messias”
Chapter 15—At the Marriage Feast
Chapter 16—In His Temple
Chapter 17—Nicodemus
Chapter 18—“He Must Increase”
Chapter 19—At Jacob's Well
Chapter 20—“Except Ye See Signs and Wonders”
Chapter 21—Bethesda and the Sanhedrin
Chapter 22—Imprisonment and Death of John
Chapter 23—“The Kingdom of God Is at Hand”
Chapter 24—“Is Not This the Carpenter's Son?”
Chapter 25—The Call by the Sea
Chapter 26—At Capernaum
Chapter 27—“Thou Canst Make Me Clean”
Chapter 28—Levi-Matthew
Chapter 29—The Sabbath
Chapter 30—“He Ordained Twelve”
Chapter 31—The Sermon on the Mount
Chapter 32—The Centurion
Chapter 33—Who Are My Brethren?
Chapter 34—The Invitation
Chapter 35—“Peace, Be Still”
Chapter 36—The Touch of Faith
Chapter 37—The First Evangelists
Chapter 38—Come Rest Awhile
Chapter 39—“Give Ye Them to Eat”
Chapter 40—A Night on the Lake
Chapter 41—The Crisis in Galilee
Chapter 42—Tradition
Chapter 43—Barriers Broken Down
Chapter 44—The True Sign
Chapter 45—The Foreshadowing of the Cross
Chapter 46—He Was Transfigured
Chapter 47—Ministry
Chapter 48—Who Is the Greatest?
Chapter 49—At the Feast of Tabernacles
Chapter 50—Among Snares
Chapter 51—“The Light of Life”
Chapter 52—The Divine Shepherd
Chapter 53—The Last Journey From Galilee
Chapter 54—The Good Samaritan
Chapter 55—Not With Outward Show
Chapter 56—Blessing the Children
Chapter 57—“One Thing Thou Lackest”
Chapter 58—“Lazarus, Come Forth”
Chapter 59—Priestly Plottings
Chapter 60—The Law of the New Kingdom
Chapter 61—Zacchaeus
Chapter 62—The Feast at Simon's House
Chapter 63—“Thy King Cometh”
Chapter 64—A Doomed People
Chapter 65—The Temple Cleansed Again
Chapter 66—Controversy
Chapter 67—Woes on the Pharisees
Chapter 68—In the Outer Court
Chapter 69—On the Mount of Olives
Chapter 70—“The Least of These My Brethren”
Chapter 71—A Servant of Servants
Chapter 72—“In Remembrance of Me”
Chapter 73—“Let Not Your Heart Be Troubled”
Chapter 74—Gethsemane
Chapter 75—Before Annas and the Court of Caiaphas
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130.3419
Chapter 76—Judas
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130.3509#3509
Chapter 77—In Pilate's Judgment Hall
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130.3548#3548
Chapter 78—Calvary
Chapter 79—“It is Finished”
Chapter 80—In Joseph's Tomb
Chapter 81—“The Lord Is Risen”
Chapter 82—“Why Weepest Thou?”
Chapter 83—The Walk to Emmaus
Chapter 84—“Peace Be Unto You”
Chapter 85—By the Sea Once More
Chapter 86—Go Teach All Nations
Chapter 87—“To My Father, and Your Father”

Ellen G. White Writings
The Desire of Ages


Table of contents https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130.3359/toc
Christianity Etc › Re: 4 Quick Ways Of Identifying A Dishonest Christian by MuttleyLaff: 5:24pm On Nov 29, 2020
HellVictorinho:
We don't agree on ANYTHING's ability to exist in infinite forms!!!!
Case closed!!!!!!!
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Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 2:15pm On Nov 29, 2020
openmine:
this is lummox openmine saying Okay bye
andando a godermi la mia follia
cool
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Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 12:41pm On Nov 29, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
openmine:
I, openmine have just re-typed MuttleyLaff's original comment to:
"Oga sorry for the constant and stupid repetitions..
my system just got infected by a Trogan called Mumucleff....
my system will boot several times to flush it out! Bear with me sir

Sorry once again for the moronic repetitions from my coconut shaped bot.....
ignore any FUTURE numbskull error response that may emanate from my malfunctioning bot.....its going through a rebooting process that may take a while
"
using Okay openminebot cool cool
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Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 11:50am On Nov 29, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
openmine:
My loony encephalon that my shoulder carries in discomfort.
Please leave my openmine mumu brain like that... it is my own
tongue tongue
[img]https://media./images/cf50fdf117fb5913f9d125ea2904658b/tenor.gif[/img]
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 11:26am On Nov 29, 2020
openmine:
che spreco di cellule cerebrali
What a waste of brain cells I've turned out to be
embarassed embarassed embarassed cry cry cry
[img]https://media./images/cf50fdf117fb5913f9d125ea2904658b/tenor.gif[/img]
Christianity Etc › Re: New Technology Makes Obama And Oprah Appear In The Same Room by MuttleyLaff: 11:21am On Nov 29, 2020
donnie:
HalleluYAH o... It a miracle!!! cheesy
MuttleyLaff apologizes shocked grin

All praises to YAH. APPOLOGY ACCEPTED. cool
I have no hard feelings towards you. I have nothing personal against you. Of course you know I love you. I have no qualms apologising. The first to apologise is the bravest. The first to forgive is the strongest. The first to forget is the happiest. An apology is a lovely perfume, it can transform the clumsiest moment into a gracious gift. You are a better man for accepting. Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
openmine:
It's half clever me, openmine, with my smug smile, who is changing MuttleyLaff's original comments and I even re-typed this one above into this below:
"I Fixed my folly to be muttonhead unlimited. My two left legs can play the game, lmso" grin grin grin grin grin
[img]https://s8/images/davidoMutt.gif[/img]
Christianity Etc › Re: New Technology Makes Obama And Oprah Appear In The Same Room by MuttleyLaff: 11:09am On Nov 29, 2020
donnie:
Who doesn't know that before a product gets to the market it is tested and infact used by various groups like the military, movie industry etc. Like GPS, video calls etc were used for decades by the military before it was available to the public.

I have had the privilege of working with a technology company and have an idea of how long it takes R & D from conceptualizing to product development and launch. It sometimes takes several years.

Then they will send protos to certain individuals or groups to use and give feedback, then the various licencing they'll have to secure etc.

So please save the useless lecture and keep the commandments.
[img]https://media./images/0fa9731ac4032068b63df04ae15439e8/tenor.gif[/img]
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
openmine:
I am, openmine, the world infamous Okay Mister palooka smiley smiley
[img]https://media./images/cf50fdf117fb5913f9d125ea2904658b/tenor.gif[/img]
Fixed. Two can play your game, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
openmine:
I am openmine, the world infamous Okay Doc Schlemiel cool cool
[img]https://media./images/cf50fdf117fb5913f9d125ea2904658b/tenor.gif[/img]
Fixed. Two can play your game, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
openmine:
Okay Sir Batty smiley cool
questo ragazzo è più st.upi.do di quanto pensassi cheesy cheesy
[img]https://s8/images/3g2yCH5.gif[/img]
Closet batty boy, dont be shy, dance.

If only you'll just help me, to help you, when you give the one bible verse, but its only an intractably stupid who would be incapable of giving a bible verse, lmso.
Christianity Etc › Re: 4 Quick Ways Of Identifying A Dishonest Christian by MuttleyLaff: 10:34am On Nov 29, 2020
HellVictorinho:
The Bible says "In the beginning, God did bla bla bla"
But that doesn't mean NOTHING can exist!!!!
Half bread is better than nothing, so my appreciation, that you made some effort in paraphrasing Genesis 1:1 as a defence, albeit, it never made any comment contextually and otherwise, about nothing not existing or that NOTHING can exist

HellVictorinho:
You believe God exists alongside NOTHING because the Bible says only God existed before God created the Universe with NOTHING!!!!
"1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
"
- John 1:1-3

I believe God exists alongside NOTHING because the Bible in John 1:3, states that, nothing was created except through Him.

How do you know there is nothing? Isnt it because you dont see nothing. You wanted to play hard ball, so I said, let's do it then, lmso, then asked you, how about try this for size, money doesn't exist, lmso. Do you know that money doesnt exist?, lmso. What of darkness?

HellVictorinho:
You're not the only one that believes such things!!!!
But such things are impossible because ANYTHING can exist in infinite forms!!!!!
If you don't agree with me on the issue of ANYTHING, then you can also take a bottle of whiskey towards it!!!!!
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I don't believe ANYTHING can exist in infinite forms.
Can my missus exist in infinite forms? Will she get exhausted from existing in infinite forms? If no, then why wouldnt she get exhausted?

What is "... take a bottle of whiskey towards it!!!!!" actually trying to mean or be about?

HellVictorinho:
I know that people celebrate several things including the death of other people for several reasons such as the reasoning of such people!!!!!
I know there are many religious people that would celebrate the death of people like me after reading most of my posts in this section of Nairaland!!!!
Well I dont know who such people think they are representing, if they would gloat over news of you passing on, when you are simply just being who you, by nature, are. You are expected to freely express yourself without fear or favour, but the caveat, is be ready and prepared to face the consequences of your expressions, as in your thoughts, utterances, works and actions, whether in the body, the mind/soul and spirit, lmso

You see how wrong it is to generalise hmm, because I grieve people's death, but, personally I dont celebrate death(s) nor gloat over people passing on, and preferably I dont expect any celebration, family gathering or prayers after I've passed on.
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
openmine:
Okay Mr Golem smiley smiley
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EllipticalColorfulIridescentshark-max-1mb.gif
Dont just say, OK. Dance! Get on with it!! lmso.
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
openmine:
Yes Mr Tommyrot cool
[img]https://media./images/e0ddf7a140c8e0bc4c25611e8067fca4/tenor.gif[/img]
C'mon, giddy-up for dada, lmso.
It easier to do, especially since you've developed cold feet, in giving the infamous, misinterpreted and misunderstood one bible verse
Christianity Etc › Re: New Technology Makes Obama And Oprah Appear In The Same Room by MuttleyLaff: 9:41am On Nov 29, 2020
donnie:
Fmr. Pres. Barack Obama and Oprah are seen in a room together having conversation, even playing footsies but are actually thousands of miles apart. Obama is in Washington D.C. and Oprah is in Santa Barbara.

This should gladden the hearts of Business Execs who will see the technology as great solution for business meetings.

The movie, gaming and entertainment worlds should also be taking advantage of this I guess.

For me I'll say great marketing... Makes it easy to overlook the far-reaching implications or purpose.

h ttps://youtu.be/51uk5SFF5s8
DropsMic:
White people tho
All thanks to a 1999 patent.

donnie:
Hehehe
donnie come lately, this has happened as early and as far back as 2012 during the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival, with dead Tupac Shakur seen performing live on stage, lmso.

The brain, isn't an ornament ordinarily to decorate the body with, but we are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift for a purpose, for a reason(s) and for such time(s) as now

donnie:
[s]All we gat to do is wake up... We're far better.
Keeping the laws statues and commandments or YAH, as ISOLELE (ISRAEL) that we are, will have a direct positive effect on our collective IQ.[/s]
Just dont go near scissors to play with. KMFT.
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
openmine:
No Mr Bovine cool
[img]https://media./images/8f78ea78e66d04b6281fee9a2236e85f/tenor.gif[/img]
C'mon dance for daddy, lmso.
You know, you want to, especially since you've developed cold feet giving the infamous misinterpreted and misunderstood one bible verse
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by MuttleyLaff: 9:19am On Nov 29, 2020
Ibime:
Wahala for who paid PPV for Tyson-Jones fight.

@nihilistjnr see below.

Once a Frank Warrens hype job fighter is involved, if you don't win a round clearly, they will give it to his fighter. Money talks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqVOPo8MteQ
Draw but Tyson was the better and fitter performer

and peeps were saying this chap Dubois is a worthy contender against AJ
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
openmine:
Okay Mr Clod smiley smiley
[img]https://media./images/3cba93d2129b61c87a91850335c66949/tenor.gif[/img]
Did I ask too much, lmso?
All I asked him, was an easy, peasy, lemon squeezy, measly one bible verse.
Twirl and simply just dance for me, if you cant give a bible verse, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: 4 Quick Ways Of Identifying A Dishonest Christian by MuttleyLaff: 9:03am On Nov 29, 2020
HellVictorinho:
Well, I used the word "if" for a reason.
I appreciate you used "if" for a reason, but please acknowledge that I went out of the way to make a clear distinction of the difference(s) between God and god(s). I further even, mentioned how for some people God, the Influence, is taking as someone unnecessary and not needed, so whats your complaint in there about then

HellVictorinho:
Concerning the inexistence of NOTHING, I don't have to show you bla bla bla.
You cant just make a wild statement, remarking that: "NOTHING can't exist" without backing it up with the biblical reference that prompt you to make the comment. If you are unable to, tend humbly just retract the ill-informed unbiblical statement

HellVictorinho:
I also don't expect you to define NOTHING because Google's definition of NOTHING doesn't make it possible for NOTHING to exist.
In other words,"NOTHING" is a word that refers to the impossible.
"EVERYTHING"/A GROUP OF THINGS"/"SOMETHING" refers to one of the infinite forms in which "ANYTHING" can exist.
"ANYTHING" refers to that which can exist in infinite forms.
I love Google, but the Bible, in relevant important certain matters always comes trump than Google.

I am sure that, Google's definition of NOTHING doesn't make it possible for NOTHING to exist, but this is not so, in the bible. OK, if you want to play hard ball, let's do it then, lmso. How about try this for size, money doesn't exist, lmso. Or the Galloway quote that says: Google is god, Apple is sex, Facebook is love, and Amazon is ... death. If not for Covid-19, I would have scored the quote full marks 4/4, but Amazon actually is Kerching! Thanks to Corona, Jeff Bezos, is on track to become the world's first trillionaire by 2026. Siren.

HellVictorinho:
You're either being figurative or being literal.
You can't be both at once.
Look up meaning of blend. The Influence's descriptor name is I AM that I AM. It is an offshoot of I AM, with a meaning of Self Existing aka Exist, Be, Existent et cetera.

HellVictorinho:
But I can see that you have chosen to be figurative by referring to a being as an influence.
Permit me to correct that I actually used Influence for God and used influence(s) for god(s). I didnt say if the usages were figurative or literal.

HellVictorinho:
Before calling a being/a living thing an influence, you must have believed that it exists.
Of course, absolutely, you would have bought into it in order to believed the existence, just as some believe in blood money ritual, done in line with human being sacrifices having the influence to give the perpetrators of this wicked act, power to get unholy money and create wealth, lmso

HellVictorinho:
But I won't ask you to prove God exists.
Why would you even ever want to ask me to prove God exists, when its a no-brainer and given that God exists.

HellVictorinho:
I will just state that it's impossible for NOTHING to exist while ANYTHING can exist in infinite forms.
I reiterate, please show me where in the Bible you have it that NOTHING can't exist, (i.e. that it's impossible for NOTHING to exist) so I can, in returning the favour, show you too, that NOTHING can exist, (i.e. that it's possible for NOTHING to exist) lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: 4 Quick Ways Of Identifying A Dishonest Christian by MuttleyLaff: 7:53am On Nov 29, 2020
HellVictorinho:
If the act of drinking water as often as possible affects the body positively, then water has to be called a necessity.
Addiction is another issue.
Addiction, has to do with abnormal use of anything and/or abuse of it. Drink water sensibly, you'll be alright and won't incur any adverse effect, but irresponsibly drinking water, could lead to water poisoning (i.e. water intoxication) and even death, lmso.

HellVictorinho:
If you use the word *God* to identify necessities(including entertainment ) or/and addictive things,then you're actually being figurative.
The literal use of "God" has to do with beings that exist alongside NOTHING but that's impossible because NOTHING can't exist.
It also has to do with beings that are smarter than humans but that's impossible because it's impossible for a living thing
with a superior brain to exist.
God, is Influence, and Influence, isnt forced on human being, solely because they were created and designed by Influence, as freewill and moral agents, lmso. To an atheist, the Influence, God, is taking as someone unnecessary and not needed, but they are left be, to their own devices and to act according to their nature, lmso

Why not please show me where in the Bible you have it that NOTHING can't exist, so I can, in returning the favour, show you too, that NOTHING can exist, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: There's NO Gate For Christians, Muslims, Judaism Etc. In The Kingdom by MuttleyLaff: 7:28am On Nov 29, 2020
donnie:
Watch and learn peeps...
Watch and learn peeps how not to run from ravening wolves into the opened embracing arms and clutches of a grizzling bear, just as donnie has done

donnie:
This is how Satan tempts people and gets them to do his bidding... He looks for what you like or hate and uses it.
Dream on because Satan can never successfully tempt any child/son/daughter/man/woman of God to get them to do his bidding. No child, son, daughter, man or woman of God will succumb to become a tool of Satan

donnie:
Like they say, enemy of my enemy na my friend grin grin grin
The worst enemy is within. You're your enemy. Along the way, enemies, fyi, have their purposes, time and place, so I dont shirk from having enemies and I suppose you know why I dont, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: There's NO Gate For Christians, Muslims, Judaism Etc. In The Kingdom by MuttleyLaff: 7:14am On Nov 29, 2020
letu:
grin grin grin grin no problems.
If an opportune time opens up, because of your salient points, that I am not necessarily trying to improve upon but just merely endorse them with relevant more info, I will go back, get it finished up and published, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: There's NO Gate For Christians, Muslims, Judaism Etc. In The Kingdom by MuttleyLaff: 6:55am On Nov 29, 2020
letu:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/12760233_screenshot20201129053222_png223ee9fb207483832936c39c9bbc4d1a
1) When someone one is dead the person will be gathered with his or her ancestors/people in the afterlife, example of this can be seen in the Bible chapters.

2) Also this place where the dead will gathered with his or her ancestors/people, there is a separation eg wall or structure that divide the righteous and the unrighteous, example of this can also be seen in the Bible which is the story of the rich man and Lazarus ( Luke 16 v 19 ---- 26 ) .



MuttleyLaff:
Hell or better put, Hades, actually is a Greek concept, the Jews have no concept of Hell or Hades
they have sheol, alright but the concept of Hell or Hades, is a Greek one.

Sheol is more of a proper and real biblical Israelite concept of where the dead are ''interned''

So Sheol in an oversimplified or elementary manner can be grave or has been referred as grave

Grave/tomb/sepulchre sites are merely places of deposit for a corpse. Sheol is the realm of the dead or departed souls
- Souls do not linger in the air. Souls do not stay in limbo. Souls do not hang about. Souls do not make revisits

Until Jesus in the NT, Sheol in general, without necessarily distinguishing between righteous or unrighteous souls, has been the realm of the dead or abode of the dead

We have verses in OT (e.g. Psalm 9:17 etcetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it was Jesus in the NT that brought things into perspective when he shared the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol with the story of the Rich Man being elsewhere and Abraham with the Poor Man being on a different side. Remember just like because you're telling a joke, it doesnt necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality, so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man.

Sheol (i.e. the original Hebrew concept of afterlife) now has gray lines shared with Gehenna (i.e. the refuse dump in Jerusalem hyperbolically referred to by Jesus in Matthew 5:29 Matthew 18:9 and Mark 9:47) and Hell (i.e. a Greek mythology and Greek concept of afterlife) which arent really understood. The etymology of afterlife from a Jewish concept (i.e. Sheol, with 2 sections) has changed over time and Sheol, since, has being interchangeably replaced with Gehenna and Hell/Hades

Reiterating, hell which has become synonymous with Hades, is neither Hebrew or Greek in origin. Sheol is, what you'll find in the original Hebrew text for any word for Hell. In other places, Hades or Hell was the Greek substitution for the part of Sheol where the Rich man is from the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus. As a matter of fact, Hell, actually finds it roots in the classic Greek mythology, Hades, where Hades interestingly and actually, was the ancient Greek god of the underworld. This god's name (i.e. Hades) later turned to mean the place or abode of the dead, which actually is exactly what Sheol is, what is signifies or represents.

Talking about Gehenna, well it is a valley, a valley in Jerusalem, used as a dumping refuse site and so was used by Jesus to depict the Lake of fire (i.e. it is a place of destruction, as in, via incineration, a place for destroying things)

As earlier mentioned, Gehenna was the incinerating refuse dump in Jerusalem. Hades however, historically and originally is the name of a Greek god until it got turned to meaning the place or abode of the dead. It later got interchanged with hell, which is from a German word root. It was bible translators who were substituting the original Hebrew word Sheol (i.e. the part where the dead of the Rich man sort are), with Greek counterparts Hades/Hell that made hell stick with us today

Death is not a physical person but it will cease to exist because it will be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical lake of fire
I saw on that thread where you told donnie that ignorance is one problem he has and further that, please this is not insult, but you are just stating an obvious truth, how he took it badly and in his typical Machiavellian style, went cannibalistic on you, lmso.

I left my responses to the thread unfinished on my laptop, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: 4 Quick Ways Of Identifying A Dishonest Christian by MuttleyLaff: 6:36am On Nov 29, 2020
HellVictorinho:
According to that dude, the absence of faith in God is also a god.
How else can we define nonsense??
"Their end is destruction, their god is their belly,
and their glory is in their shame.
Their minds are set on earthly things.
"
- Philippians 3:19

God, is not a personal name of the Supreme Being. God and god(s), actually are Influence and influence(s) that exert positive or negative effects on a person(s) or thing. Case in point, there are human beings/inanimate object/things deified as gods. There is apotheosis or self-deification, as in, meaning, the self elevation to the status of a god so to be worshipped (e.g. Egyptian Pharaohs, Roman Emperors, Shango, albeit he became god of thunder, lightning and storms after he died, etcetera) There are abstracts, that become gods, when their forces, characteristics and motivations gets a grip on their victims, such that they often end up influenced in unsavoury ways/manners by gods such as the god of the belly/stomach, under the influence of alcohol or narcotics or even the god of Mammon et cetera. Humans from time immemorial have always deify things and make a god of them,. "Wacky and die chop bellefu" gluttons making god of their stomach or belly. Drunks or alcoholics make god of beer, spirits, rum, alcohol et cetera. Chrematistics have made money their god. What of the pagan or heathen thats made god of inanimate and/or not alive object, lying around at his/her shrine? In short, for some, money is a god, food is a god, the belly or stomach is a god, inanimate objects are gods, animals are gods et cetera.

The point that's being made, is that, there the ONE God and there are different types, forms and/or flavors of gods and so "the absence of faith in God" (i.e. the absence of faith, in Influence) is a situation and opportunity, for an alternative influence(s) to fill that vacuum and get in, with the power to badly affect the thinking, attitude, behaviour and even character of a person.

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