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Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Is Greater Than I-jesus Christ by MuttleyLaff: 4:34pm On Nov 28, 2020
Truvel:
Jesus Is God. His Assignment On Earth Made Him To Maintain A Low Profile.
HedwigesMaduro:
Yes Jesus is God, but not God Almighty. He has a God above Him.
MuttleyLaff:
Is Yahshua Ha Mashiah, aka Jesus Christ, Mighty God?
Truvel:
Read Isaiah 9:1 Down.
Thank God, that with "Read Isaiah 9:1 Down" you haven't ordinarily let the cat out of the bag

HedwigesMaduro typed that "Yes Jesus is God, but not God Almighty" so why couldn't you just let him, and by himself, answer nah, whether or not Yahshua Ha Mashiah, aka Jesus Christ, is Mighty God.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Is Greater Than I-jesus Christ by MuttleyLaff: 4:32pm On Nov 28, 2020
Truvel:
It's A Waste Of Time Argueing With A JW Member. They Av Their Belief.
Smiling

HedwigesMaduro:
I personally I'm not a JW, but the amount of mental gymnastics you guys perform to prove the Trinity is astounding. In Revelation 3 Jesus Christ said something about "My God" about 3 times or thereabouts. Now, if He were equal with God would God the Father still be His God? I'm waiting for some gymnastics on that.
"3Don't act out of selfish ambition or be conceited. Instead, humbly think of others as being better than yourselves.
4Don't be concerned only about your own interests, but also be concerned about the interests of others.
5Have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.
6Although He was in the form of God and equal with God, He did not take advantage of this equality.
7Instead, He emptied himself by taking on the form of a servant, by becoming like other humans, by having a human appearance.
8He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, death on a cross.
9This is why God has given Him an exceptional honor- the name honored above all other names-
10so that at the name of Jesus everyone in heaven, on earth, and in the world below will kneel
11and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
"
- Philippians 2:6-11

Not everybody is doing mental gymnastics with you on trinity. Trinity, as a matter of fact and fyi, is a means to an end its not the infinity. We live in a three dimensional world, so it makes good sense to use three dimension to expressed the Godhead

Where have you seen sons ever be the equals of their fathers, hmm?, Well, sons conform to the authority and will of fathers/mothers, and in the quest to fulfil all forms of righteousness just like that, though God, Yahshua Ha Mashiah, aka Jesus Christ, as you've just read from Philippians 2:6-11 above, too became submissive, yielding and accommodating to the will of the Father.
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 4:06pm On Nov 28, 2020
openmine:
No time for long post bro!
Give me 'scriptures'(no evasive explanation) detailing where God endorses homosexual acts....! Simple!
I have no time for your prevaricating and elongated tacts!
This is 2020!
Give me scriptures or let someone else with such belief as yours with a scripture do so!
I dont need half-baked and concocted sermons filled with emotions and zero wisdom...just scriptures! Simple!
Thank you!
My ever impetuous brother, stop behaving like a bear with a bruised sore head, but use 2020 vision, to read that, not all the several Bible verses, whether in OT or NT, that you have learnt to believe are condemning same set attraction relationships, are not, in context, talking about blanket gay or overall same sex relationships at all, at all.

I dare you to attempt show the readership, anywhere in the bible that the invented word "homosexual" and the likes similar to the "homosexual" word is not 99.99% associated with male/female temple prostitution, pagan ritual sexual orgies, ‎attempted rape, infidelity, promiscuity, wickedness, infidelity, cruelty, unfaithfulness, lying to oneself and ones nature, idolatry sex worship desecrating the worship and reverence of God, sperm consumption and fertility ritual ceremonies et cetera, lmso.

Why not just list one bible verse where you believe God is not endorsing homosexual acts, then lets both examine the scripture together to see whether the homosexual act is or not 99.99% associated with male/female temple prostitution, pagan ritual sexual orgies, ‎attempted rape, infidelity, promiscuity, wickedness, infidelity, cruelty, unfaithfulness, lying to oneself and ones nature, idolatry sex worship desecrating the worship and reverence of God, sperm consumption and fertility ritual ceremonies et cetera.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Is Greater Than I-jesus Christ by MuttleyLaff:
Truvel:
Jesus Is God. His Assignment On Earth Made Him To Maintain A Low Profile.
HedwigesMaduro:
Yes Jesus is God, but not God Almighty. He has a God above Him.
Is Yahshua Ha Mashiah, aka Jesus Christ, Mighty God?
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 12:59pm On Nov 28, 2020
openmine:
The acts of homosexuality has no place in a believer mind or the church of Christ!
Brother, long time no hear, no see, lmso.

God draws a distinction between your belief(s) and truth.‎ Why not let's do a Ceasar here, for fun. Now what is, truth about homosexuality? Are all heterosexuality, acceptable and permissible, lmso? Of course not, they all aren't acceptable and/or permissible. Well what's good for the goose, is equally good for the gander, lmso, and so too, not all homosexuality, is acceptable ans/or permissible either, lmso

openmine:
There are several scriptures where God unambiguously endorsed the union of a man and a woman....never in any scripture was God silent or supported or permitted the union of same sex!
All the several Bible verses, whether in OT or NT, that you have learnt to believe are condemning same set attraction relationships, are not, in context, talking about blanket gay or overall same sex relationships at all, at all.

I dare you to attempt show the readership, anywhere in the bible that the invented word "homosexual" and the likes similar to the "homosexual" word is not 99.99% associated with male/female temple prostitution, pagan ritual sexual orgies, ‎attempted rape, infidelity, promiscuity, wickedness, infidelity, cruelty, unfaithfulness, lying to oneself and ones nature, idolatry sex worship desecrating the worship and reverence of God, sperm consumption and fertility ritual ceremonies et cetera, lmso.


openmine:
Whoever is in support of the acts of homosexuality no matter their vast knowledge of the scriptures is contravening the perfect plan of God for mankind and such person is tagged an Antichrist!
I guess, all this will be found in the Bible translation version according to openmine, lmso. Smh sigh.

openmine:
Whoever has a contrary opinion about such stand should do well by releasing and detailing such scriptures WHERE GOD ENDORSED ACTS OF HOMOSEXUALITY or forever remain silent ...
Do you know what is called opinion in the absence of facing up to the truth of HOMOSEXUALITY in the Bible? Well, lmso, its call prejudice and bigotry

openmine:
... and stop spreading lies just to suit their personal desires!
You just bring out whatever scripture you've believed to be against same sex attraction nah, and lets see who has been conned into spreading lies, if not you and your two ignorant homophobic admirers, lmso.

I have always had a penchant for the truth because I never have been any good at lying, lmso. Truth has no agenda. Truth, is what it is, lmso, it gives perspective and provides purpose, as different perspectives, makes us see different and correctly, lmso.

I might, just like you would, admire a well turned out male anatomy/physique, but can I imagine myself, being sexually aroused by another man or personally desire another man? Capital, nope. No sire, I am not wired up that way, lmso. I am just as mystified as you are, by the idea of two men or two women, preferring their sexes than the opposite sexes, but hey, these things happen, even as explained in John 9:3 (i.e. ... happened so that the works of God might be displayed or be seen in him/her) and also God is not against love another human being. It is not about who you love, but how you love. Love transcends sexuality. The same God who created Adam and Eve‎, also is the one who created Adam and Steve and not forgetting to mention Madam and Ev‎e as well, lmso.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by MuttleyLaff:
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 8:07am On Nov 28, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did No One Understood What Jesus Meant by MuttleyLaff: 7:53am On Nov 28, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
grin You Did Not know that The Lord taught us how to Find The Truth Always!

And I even gave you an opportunity to lie and change your heart but you rather chose to confirm it, thinking you can deceive me that I would not know That Your Post and Query was Indeed Malicious grin

All the same, you have Revealed Yourself and the Great Anger and Envy For Christians you carry Within you and I can discern that Indeed you Are A Terrorist True and True!

And I did not know that you were Muslim until now, for I Truly thought that you were what people would call Christians, but you are Anti-Christian because of the bad conduct of Christians.

But now, I understand that Antichristian means Muslim to you (Not what people call Atheist or Juju worshipers or any other interpretation. Noted

Go and Bring the Evidence Where i, the Dtruthspeaker, has ever made a "post of Lies Against Islam" and bring it here!
"We all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic,
'AntiChristian AntiChristian Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me?
It is hard for you to kick against the goads.'
"
- Acts 26:14

He is one of my fav dear beloved Muslim brother friends, who cant resist not kicking against the goads, lmso.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did No One Understood What Jesus Meant by MuttleyLaff: 7:50am On Nov 28, 2020
AntiChristian:
Did Jesus's God really forsook him?
Of course not. We have the translators to thank for misinterpret the original word for forsake

AntiChristian:
Why Eli Eli here and Eloi Eloi there in Mark?
Well my dear beloved Muslim brother friend, if you must know, Matthew says "Eli" here which means "My God" because he wrote in Hebrew, while Mark says "Eloi" there, which also means "My God" but thats when written in Aramaic. Capisce?

AntiChristian:
Jesus had a God! How possible?
Very possible. It isnt anything impossible for God to be God of Himself

AntiChristian:
Wasn't Jesus aware that he's gonna die for all believers sin?
That is the whole essence of what His last words on the cross revealed. God came to die for all mankind. Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ, is God incarnate. Matthew 27:46 & Mark 15:34 are testaments to the fact that Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ was born to die for every human being.

Dtruthspeaker:
You have brought your own problems here, raise a thread. And of course you know the answers to those questions but you are here to do your own Judas Iscariot work!
فَإِن كُنتَ فِي شَكٍّ مِّمَّا أَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ فَاسْأَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتَابَ مِن قَبْلِكَ لَقَدْ جَاءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ
- Surah Yunus, [10:94]

Allow him because we are here to provide illumination to our dear beloved Muslim brother friend.

Quran in Surah 10:94 seen above, has the good sense to tell Muslims, like particularly, our dear beloved Muslim brother friend, very good self AntiChristian, that, if in doubt, if in need of illumination, or if need light shed on a subject, to go ask "those who read the book before you," that is meaning, go to believers, such as, they in the faith, who have gathered on this thread, lmso.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did No One Understood What Jesus Meant by MuttleyLaff: 7:50am On Nov 28, 2020
HazardAwka:
Jesus cried with a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, la′ma sabach-tha′ni?” that is, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”
And some of bystanders hearing it said, “This man is calling Eli′jah.

My question is why did no one understood the language he spoke? Where did the language came from?
gideonjeta:
What you quoted is Mathew 27:46. The Language used in that verse or those words is contemporary Hebrew (that is, Hebrew language) with a little bit of Aramaic. The reason for the confusion by the crowd is simply because some are interpreting what he said in Hebrew and not taking the full concept (that is, a combination of Hebrew and Aramaic Language).
The Matthew 27:46 & Mark 15:34 translations are unfaithful to the original text.

Translating has never being God inspired, as all scripture is. Translating requires more than ordinarily exchanging words for each other, but requires understanding the author's mind and/or needs understanding the import of the speaker's message enough to correctly capture the real intent, real essence of what originally, the author wrote or speaker said.

MaxInDHouse:
The gospel writers who penned down this events did so much later not instantly or after few weeks, in fact all of them got the boldness to pen down those events after they've become Born Again (baptized by the spirit). So there is no language Jesus could utter that they won't grasp it's meaning as Born Again Christians, that's why they're able to interpret it for their fellow brothers and sisters in the Christian congregation. Note that what you're quoting was banned by the Jews in the first century so it was only read and acknowledged as part of God's word amongst the Christians!
So only the Christians back then were told what Jesus' statement meant, even his followers who stood there that very day can't understand it not until they were baptized at Pentecost, then they were able to speak in all languages and most especially the heavenly language!

God bless you! smiley
HazardAwka, let's the fact straight from the onset. The thing is "Eli Eli lama sabachthani" was spoken Aramaic and it were some of bystanders and not His disciples, who were the ones who didnt understand the language Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ spoke.

Another thing HazardAwka, watch this. What do people usually do or say just before they die? What are their last words while lying on their dying bed or hanging on a cross, like at a place, called Calvary (i.e. Golgotha or place of a skull), hmm? Most people' last words are very profound and enunciated and Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ's last words, are no exception to this. As it happens, Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ, as a dying man, hung on the cross, uttered seven complete famous dying last words, which fyi, are, as follows:

1) Luke 23:34 - Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.
2) Luke 23:43 - Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.
3) John 19:26-27 - Woman, behold your son. Son Behold your mother.
4) Matthew 27:46 & Mark 15:34 - My God, My God, ... (that missing bit there, with the three dots, I've blanked out, to reveal more on it, later on)
5) John 19:28 - I thirst.
6) John 19:30 - It is finished (or "It is accomplished'')
7) Luke 23:46 - Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.

The first of the last four words, (i.e. famous words #4) were said, to the hearing and/or for the benefit of Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ' disciples, which is why it was spoken in Aramaic (e.g. "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani'') It wasnt spoken in any sort of unknown language, so for no one to understand what Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ meant, but, it, for crying out loud, was spoken in Aramaic, lmso, as Aramaic, is the language the disciples speak in.

Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ, for the benefit of His disciples' hearing it, said aloud in Aramaic, the purpose of His mission/assignment
(i.e. He came out with the reason, all those things were happening, the reason why He was created or the reason why He came to exist). He then, after declaring that the purpose is finished or accomplished, (i.e. the process for salvation), excused Himself with the "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit" last words, after that breathed His last breath, with a last breathing out and then died.

Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ chose His word very carefully and didnt speak impetuously when He used "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani"
Interestingly enough, Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ, actually was with His #fourth words, paraphrasing, the beginning of Psalm 22 (i.e. Psalm 22:1a), just like as with His # sixth words, and before dying, He paraphrased the end of Psalm 22 (i.e Psalm 22:31b)
Christianity Etc › Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff(op):
The floor is all yours eviana3
Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Is Greater Than I-jesus Christ by MuttleyLaff: 11:17pm On Nov 27, 2020
eviana3:
Thank you, kindly, for your patience.
I appreciate that fully sir.
I totally understood everything written here also.
Your break-down of the Godhead was much better.
What a complicated, yet crucial topic for the awesome-ness of God's power and authority.
God gave me grace, patience and understanding.

eviana3:
Is it possible, however, for you to suggest where I can ask my questions in order to not derail this thread and risk having my questions hidden?
My questions don't necessarily pertain to the thread topic per se (if you get what I mean)...but have been on my mind for awhile. I must ask...finally.
I'll open up a thread ma'am, just for you, so to, that you ask on it, to your delight, as many questions that crops up in your mind

eviana3:
Also, once you suggest another thread, then I will ask the questions.
If possible, please allow me just (1) more day to frame these questions in the most respectful and wise way...(I've had to re-think my delivery) so Sunday would be the day I would like to ask them.
May God give you grace and unction

eviana3:
You are a "conundrum" of sorts....can't quite figure you out....
What I will say is that (although we have some major doctrinal differences), I appreciate your willingness to be cordial and pleasant towards me. I sincerely appreciate that.
Who will I be representing if I dont have the willingness to be cordial and pleasant towards you, hmm? Show and give all the appreciation to God
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Religious Sect Comes To Mind Anytime You Read This Verse? by MuttleyLaff: 4:26pm On Nov 27, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Point Of Circumcision As Commanded By (abrahamic) Religions? by MuttleyLaff:
Bacteriologist:
According to the Bible, Abraham was the first man to circumcise his kid. But thank you for admitting the bible is fiction and isn't right about anything.
Was the first man recorded to have been asked by God to circumcise et cetera. It must have being in your sleep that dreamt someone admitting the bible is fiction and isn't right about anything.

Bacteriologist:
In the REAL world, Circumcision may date back to before the fiction book, bible was written. So I agree with you on that.
Goody goody good then

Bacteriologist:
Provide a source for your elevated vitamin k blood level claims on the 8th day from a neutral source because I am well aware of the crooked and lying nature of christian apologists.
Science eventually caught up and copped on about this, lmso. Go research am nah, lmso

Bacteriologist:
Lastly, would you agree with me that circumcision is a violation of the individual's bodily autonomy? If tribal marks on a baby are prohibited because there is no consent and permanently scars the kid, why should cutting the foreskin of the same baby be allowed?

Because a book written in the stone age says so?
God made Abraham, so is sovereign over Abraham, possessing supreme or unrestricted power over him, implying He can do whatever He likes with Abraham's body.

Now my dear friend, when you have created something as little as a gnat, then maybe you can turn up here for a discussion and we have a jaw jaw basing on you too being a creator and/or maker of something from scratch with life, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Point Of Circumcision As Commanded By (abrahamic) Religions? by MuttleyLaff: 7:25am On Nov 27, 2020
Bacteriologist:
If God is perfect and he created man in his perfect image, then why the need for circumcision?
Circumcision was usually already done before God commanded Abraham and the Israelites to circumcise

Bacteriologist:
Altering God's perfect image would make it imperfect.
No where in the Bible is there any mention of man (i.e. human beings) created as a perfect image of God

Bacteriologist:
I still cannot wrap my head around how one who look at a beautiful newborn and decide the next thing to do is how and where to chop bits off of them because a religious belief 2000 years ago says it.
"And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you,
every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.
"
- Gen. 17:12

"1Then the LORD said to Moses,
2“Say to the Israelites, ‘ A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be unclean for seven days,
as she is during the days of her menstruation.
3And on the eighth day the flesh of the boy’s foreskin is to be circumcised
"
- Lev. 12:1-3

"24One night while Moses was in camp, the LORD was about to kill him.
25But Zipporah circumcised her son with a flint knife.
She touched his legs with the skin she had cut off and said, “My dear son, this blood will protect you.”
26So the LORD did not harm Moses. Then Zipporah said, “Yes, my dear, you are safe because of this circumcision.
”
- Exodus 4:24-27

The best and safest time to do this is the eighth day because on the eighth day, the amount of vitamin K and prothrombin present is elevated above 100% of normal and it is the only day in the males life in which under normal conditions, this will ever be the case.

So, in this case of circumcision surgery needing to be done, then day eight is the perfect day to have it done, simply because vitamin K and prothrombin are at their peak on that day and as vitamin K and prothrombin are vital to coagulation, that stops bleeding and paves way to healing faster. Apparently blood clotting mechanism does not function fully until the age of six months and is particularly weak in the first two to four days after birth.

Going back to answering the thread's titled question, well, the point of circumcision as commanded by (abrahamic) religion, is God letting Abraham realised that He owns Abraham's "little man" Abraham in cahoot with his wife, were trying to pull a fast one and helping God produce the promised heir. Seven times God had to keep reminding Abraham that He will give him a son through his wife Sarah, but Abraham still went into Hagar. Anyway long story, cut short, at age 99 years old, when Abraham had become impotent and/or infertile, God symbolically used circumcision to covenantally mark Abraham, and then miraculously make it possible for an impotent and/or infertile man and barren woman to produce a son, Isaac the promised child. Abraham's descendants, the Israelites, were commanded to repeat this practice as a memorial
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 8:43pm On Nov 26, 2020
elated177:
The Thummim and Urim of YAHVEH ALMIGHTY belong to his faithful servant, Elated177.
Yahveh Almighty has been pleased to anoint him from his mother's womb.
Elated177 said of his father and mother,
‘I have no regard for them.’
He will not allow his brothers and sisters, his wife or his own children deter him from obeying the Commandments of his God.
Elated177 will always teach the Truth of his Father in heaven.
He will teach the Commandments of his Master and Saviour Yahushua the Messiah.
May Yahveh Almighty continue to bless all his skills, and be pleased with the work of his hands.
Strike down those who rise against him,
his foes till they rise no more.
May Yahveh Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, continue to bless the going out and the coming in of his servant, Elated177.
May Yahveh Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, continue to bless Elated177 with the precious dew from heaven above
and with the deep waters that lie below;
with the best the sun brings forth
and the finest the moon can yield;
with the choicest gifts of the ancient mountains
and the fruitfulness of the everlasting hills; with the best gifts of the earth and its fullness
and the favor of him who dwelt in the burning bush.
Let all these rest on the head of Elated177
on the brow of the messenger of Yahveh Almighty in this world.
YHVH Almighty, in his majesty, has made his Word, his Truth and his Power mighty in his saint, servant and messenger, Elated177.
With them he will scatter, uproot, tear down and destroy the plans, traps, snares and forces of wickedness in this world. All these by the Power - Spirit - of Yahveh Almighty in his Word, his begotten Son, Yahushua the Messiah.

The blessings from the East, the West, North, the South, the waters and the earth have been poured upon Elated177 by his Father in heaven, Yahveh Almighty. Elated177, the blessings of your Maker and Father in heaven have forever cancelled and nullified any curse any man or spirit has uttered or will ever utter against you.

All the good things the wind from the East, the West, the North and the South have to offer are upon Elated177.

The great and awesome power of Yahveh Almighty is in and on the head and on the brow and every single part of the body of Elated177.


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!
elated177:
Muttleylaff, I asked you a question and you carefully evaded it. How far you and that one who calls himself deliverance minister? Do you remember how you and that fool, the one who calls himself deliverance minister, wanted to deceive me and pull me down? You guys opened a thread in order to set traps for the carriers of the Light of Yahveh Almighty in this world. You shamelessly wanted to condemn what you seriously covet. What a shame! You, him and your kind, who search for glory to steal, continue to steal shame, frustration, emptiness and humiliation. You think that by trying to lure the saints away from the Righteous Walk, their Father in heaven will allow you steal their glory? Ihe efu! May Yahveh Almighty continue to deliver his saints from your traps.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
elated177:
So what you have been boldly saying here is for public while your identity is personal, huh? Ehehehehe! What a joke!
The joke is on you. It is better not to understand something than to misunderstand even, it is better to remain ignorant consciously than to think that you know and be taking silly delight in your ignorance. Now you, who already is careless and reckless with truth in small matters, definitely cannot be trusted with an important matter(s), talkless, an inconsequential thing, like my identity.

elated177:
On the contrary, as long as the Righteous Walk is concerned, both the message and the messenger are very important. I am not really talking about the physical attributes of the messenger...whether tall, short, fat, slim, ugly, beautiful, handsome, etcetera, etcetera. I am not talking about the clothes and shoes of the messenger. I am not talking about the bank account balance of the messenger. I am not talking about the number of jeeps or private jets of such messenger. I am talking about the fruits of the messenger...fruits of righteousness...fruits of the Spirit of the Father in heaven.

Any individual who claims to be a messenger of Yahushua the Messiah in this world must walk as Yahushua the Messiah walked... obedience to the Commandments of the Father, Yahveh Almighty. This has been the case from the time of Abraham to the time of the last disciple of apostle of Yahushua the Messiah and will continue to be so.
elated177, what are the two commandments of Yahshua Ha Mashiah, aka Jesus Christ, that the law and prophets are hinged on, lmso? (i.e. Matthew 22:35-40)

Human beings, in general, especially empty drums, just like you, by your unrighteousness, suppress the truth. The truth is not hidden, it ever is in plain sight for all to see and know, but posters like you extinguish and rub out the truth, in exchange for engaging in unrighteousness

elated177:
Don't hide your identity from others.
At least, let people see the person pointing the finger.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/q3SAnZo9rJg/hqdefault.jpg
Focus on the message, not the messenger

elated177:
You want me, elated177, a saint, servant and messenger of Yahveh Almighty in this world, to accept and tell others that it is okay for people of the same sex to have sex or even marry each other, right?
Please kindly show me where and when I ever had asked for you to "tell others that it is okay for people of the same sex to have sex or even marry each other" sic

elated177:
Why are you hiding here on a faceless forum? Show yourself and maybe then I may take you seriously. Light no dey hide. If you, muttleylaff, are light, as you have consistently claimed, show yourself by revealing your identity.

Are you, muttleylaff, ashamed of your message here? Are you not bold to attach your name to everything you have been boldly disseminating here?
Quit the obsession with identity. There is nothing to be ashamed of. Remember that the greatest Force is invisible, lmso. Remember that you dont see gravity, lmso, you dont see electricity et cetera

elated177:
Ahia oma adighi ezo ezo.
Why did you seek my identity? Did you not know that my identity dictates that I must be about My Father's business, ni?

elated177:
No one lights a lamp and covers it with a bowl.
A city on a hill can't be hidden.
There are two kinds of light, the glow that illuminates and the glare that obscures. No one has lit a lamp and cover it with a bowl. The city on a hill and truth are not hidden, it's posters like you, who are hiding from the truth. I think you find relaxation and comfort in darkness, because the light of the truth are harsh to your eyes for being too long in the dark, lmso

Arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand, but funnily enough, the more informed a person is, the less arrogant, less ignorant and less aggressive he/she is. Now, do you know what the ultimate ignorance is? It is the rejection of something you know nothing about yet refuse to investigate.

I am thankful for jamming a bigoted, hateful, arrogant, ignorant and aggressive poster like you because you have shown me exactly who I do not wish I want to be, lmso.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Is Greater Than I-jesus Christ by MuttleyLaff:
eviana3:
Good morning sir,
Soo much to say here...lovely illustration....eviana.3, mommy eviana.3, daddy eviana.3, baby eviana.3, sister, brother, cousin, aunt, uncle and so forth etc., all eviana.3's... huh
Please stop misrepresenting the illustration as being larger than "eviana3" and "Lil' eviana3" when it simply, was used to make clear the extent of the omnipotence and omnipresence of God, in being capable to draw out and away from Him, a Son, that is HIM, and is concurrently existing with Him.

"eviana3" being the father/mother and "Lil' eviana3" being the son, concurrently as the same person existing, in that illustration, is something no human being can pull off, but with God, it is a piece of cake, easily something God can do. Or do you think its his beyond God's power to do something like that ni, hmm?

eviana3:
You just might be too intelligent for your own good...in some aspects.
"Getting wisdom is the wisest thing you can do! And whatever else you do, develop good judgment.
(i.e. Wisdom is supreme--so get wisdom. And whatever else you get, get understanding)
"
- Proverbs 4:7

The world was created by a too Intelligent Mind, lmso. Never downplay intelligence or anyone's else for that matter, even don't let anyone insult your intelligence with crass remarks. Dare I say, dont underestimate the seductive power of intelligence because being dumb or ignorant isnt cute, but integrity, dignity and wisdom are true indicators of lit. The world as we have it, isnt an accident, but is always the result of Intelligent effort, lmso, so be smart, be intelligent and be informed, lmso

I can normally tell how intelligent a poster is, by how "just might be too intelligent for my own good" he/she thinks I am, lmso

eviana3:
Please excuse me, but I'll ask for your patience in my reply cause oh it's coming....of course.
"22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law."

- Galatians 5:22-23

For you, my fair lady, you can have all the time in the world to reply. We thank God for Galatians 5:22

eviana3:
I also have some questions for you sir.for such a time as this......so be ready.
I am ready to answer any question you have because by the grace of God, I was, for such a time as this, born ready, lmso, besides, I enjoy intelligent interaction(s) that make me think deeper and/or further, hours and days, on end, after its ended

eviana3:
Gonna enter into some "controversial" territory....but I don't think you will mind.
One of my phantom middle names is "controversial" lmso

eviana3:
Will be sometime on Friday though cause major holiday today so I'm gonna be busy for the rest of the day.
I'll keep the seat warm for you, lmso.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Reveals Shocking Definition Of JESUS by MuttleyLaff: 8:06am On Nov 26, 2020
tubetv:
h ttps://youtu.be/Ji-rv7Hg-S0
MuttleyLaff:
... God is, incorporeal, hence has no clear definite shape or size, but Jesus Christ, is the product of God, projecting Himself out, as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God (i.e. 2 Corinthians 4:4b - Christ, who is the image of God and Philippians 2:6-7 - 6Though he was God, He did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.7Instead, He gave up his divine privileges; He took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When He appeared in human form. Or, Colossians 1:15 - Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation)
Christianity Etc › Re: This Is For You, Atheist by MuttleyLaff:
Image123:
Lol, while i asked little reed riding hood for the courtesy of playing the yeye game of foolery, the homosexual's Voltron showed up instead
[img]https://media./images/c140420a1d306e8985d809ba56087e00/tenor.gif[/img]

Image123:
You can sit down now sir, i called reed. Have the people on your list gone to Jesus for cure or they are loving the disease? This is part of what one gets when he jumps into a discuss without knowing or properly observing the context.
This is part you are oblivious of that God necessarily doesn't cure any of that. Do you get cured of heterosexuality, hmm? Well,homosexuals too, dont need cured, hated, unloved, vilified, punished, discriminated or ostracised for being how they are created by God. They have accepted their sexuality as they've been God designed to be and loving themselves as God has in His infinite wisdom fearfully and wonderfully made them as. Be mindful of Romans 9:20 please, lmso

Its actually you who is in need for a cure. You and elated177 both have a disorder called homophobia. It is sometimes curable, but only if youse want cured, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: If You See Jesus You Have Seen The Father by MuttleyLaff: 7:33am On Nov 26, 2020
Janosky:
Zechariah 12:10
"I will fill the descendants of David and the other people of Jerusalem with the spirit of mercy and the spirit of prayer. They will look at the one whom they stabbed to death, and they will mourn for him like those who mourn for an only child. They will mourn bitterly, like those who have lost their first-born son."

Yahweh is speaking about the future affliction on his first born Son , Jesus Christ.
grin grin

Zechariah 12:10 Rubber stamp Romans 8:3,32 grin grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-rv7Hg-S0

God is, incorporeal, hence has no clear definite shape or size, but Jesus Christ, is the product of God, projecting Himself out, as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God (i.e. 2 Corinthians 4:4b - Christ, who is the image of God and Philippians 2:6-7 - 6Though he was God, He did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.7Instead, He gave up his divine privileges; He took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When He appeared in human form. Or, Colossians 1:15 - Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation)
Christianity Etc › Re: This Is For You, Atheist by MuttleyLaff:
LordReed:
Where did I do so?
Image123:
You're asking again. i asked you to name 10 prominent gay Christians. cry cry
1) Reverend Canon Mpho Andrea Tutu-van Furth (i.e. daughter of Archbishop Desmond Tutu)
2/ Gloria Carter (i.e. mum to Shawn Corey Carter aka professionally known as Jay-Z)
3 and 4/ Josh Canfield and Reed Kelly, a gay couple, who worship and sing in the choir at Hillsong New York and Josh Canfield is a volunteer choir director at same church.
5/ The Rev. Naomi Washington-Leapheart
6/ Pastor Yvette A. Flunder
7/ Karen Oliveto (i.e. first openly lesbian bishop to be elected in the United Methodist Church)
8/ Albert Nabonibo (i.e. well-known gospel singer in Rwanda)
9/ Pastor Albert Odulele
10/ Rev Jide Macaulay
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And LGBT by MuttleyLaff: 6:36am On Nov 26, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 6:26am On Nov 26, 2020
tobechi74:
Cain and abel ,...who did they marry .....0?
When you come across a big kettle of brain teaser(s), its best to, for some, not to stir it, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff:
elated177:
[s]The Thummim and Urim belong of YAHVEH ALMIGHTY belong to his faithful servant, Elated177.
Yahveh Almighty has been pleased to anoint him from his mother's womb.
Elated177 said of his father and mother,
‘I have no regard for them.’
He will not allow his brothers and sisters, his wife or his own children deter him from obeying the Commandments of his God.
Elated177 will always teach the Truth of his Father in heaven.
He will teach the Commandments of his Master and Saviour Yahushua the Messiah.
May Yahveh Almighty continue to bless all his skills, and be pleased with the work of his hands.
Strike down those who rise against him,
his foes till they rise no more.
May Yahveh Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, continue to bless the going out and the coming in of his servant, Elated177
May Yahveh Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, continue to bless Elated177 with the precious dew from heaven above
and with the deep waters that lie below;
with the best the sun brings forth
and the finest the moon can yield;
with the choicest gifts of the ancient mountains
and the fruitfulness of the everlasting hills; with the best gifts of the earth and its fullness
and the favor of him who dwelt in the burning bush.
Let all these rest on the head of Elated177
on the brow of the messenger of Yahveh Almighty in this world.
YHVH Almighty, in his majesty, has made his Word, his Truth and his Power mighty in his saint, servant and messenger, Elated177.
With them he will scatter, uproot, tear down and destroy the plans, traps, snares and forces of wickedness in this world. All these by the Power - Spirit - of Yahveh Almighty in his Word, his begotten Son, Yahushua the Messiah.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah! [/s]
[img]https://s8/images/134911966a0b774c4c76e52f.jpg[/img]
You're still in the zone, and persistent in thieving from Aaron's and Joseph's blessings, abi?
Your fruit(s) have revealed that you dont have the fear of God, the kind Joseph had, in you and this disqualifies you from trying appropriating Joseph's and Aaron's blessing to yourself
Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Is Greater Than I-jesus Christ by MuttleyLaff: 10:51pm On Nov 25, 2020
elated177:
Muttleylaff this is how you sound: Quack..quack..quack...quack...quack..quack..quack...quack...quack.. quack... quack..quaaaack...... quack..quack..quack...quack...quack.. quack ... Tufiakwa!
I suppose in your dreams

elated177:
Muttleylaff the degenerate, reveal your identity and show us how serious you are. Show us you are a man of truth and that the things you say here can be trusted. That is all I am asking.

Ahia oma adighi ezo ezo!


Did any of the apostles of the Messiah speak anonymously? Did any of the disciples of Yahushua the Messiah hide in a faceless forum, conceal their identity and disseminate any message? How can someone who claims he or she is follower of the Truth and is man or woman of truth and he or she is not here to mislead anyone hide his or identity? Can someone explain it to me?

What a shame!

If the con men and women here conceal their identities, should a person who claims to share the Good News also conceal his or her identity? What for?
[img]https://s8/images/dude213ad65498e734f91.gif[/img]
My identity is personal, though my moniker represents a certain degree of my identity, besides any more information than you already know isnt going to profoundly change anything from you knowing more of my identity, so I'll suggest that you dont focus on the messenger's identity, but focus on the message. Dont be concentrating on and staring at the pointing finger, but instead, look at what the finger is pointing at to you to see, lmso. Also do not let hate, bigotry or deep rooted prejudice be your identity
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 10:37pm On Nov 25, 2020
elated177:
More of his: Quack... quack...quack...quack....

Muttleylaff the degenerate, reveal your identity and show us how serious you are. Show us you are a man of truth and that the things you say here can be trusted. That is all I am asking.

Ahia oma adighi ezo ezo!

Did any of the apostles of the Messiah speak anonymously? Did any of the disciples of Yahushua the Messiah hide in a faceless forum, conceal their identity and disseminate any message? How can someone who claims he or she is follower of the Truth and is man or woman of truth and he or she is not here to mislead anyone hide his or identity? Can someone explain it to me?

What a shame!

If the con men and women here conceal their identities, should a person who claims to share the Good News also conceal his or her identity? What for?
My identity is personal, though my moniker represents a certain degree of my identity, besides any more information than you already know isnt going to profoundly change anything from you knowing more of my identity, so I'll suggest that you dont focus on the messenger's identity, but focus on the message. Dont be concentrating on and staring at the pointing finger, but instead, look at what the finger is pointing at to you to see, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 9:08pm On Nov 25, 2020
elated177:
Anyaụfụ na ekworo! Chei! Ihe efu!
You simply are just covetous and foolish enough to self appropriate another person's blessing to yourself

elated177:
Why haven't you revealed your identity?
You're borrowing an atheist line, asking "why haven't you revealed your identity?"

If you dont know the sea, you must have tasted salt in food nah. If you dont know an elephant, the trumpeting elephant's voice should reveal its identity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Classes Of People Promoting The Abominable Act Of Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 8:36pm On Nov 25, 2020
elated177:
[s]Elated177 is a fruitful vine,
a fruitful vine near a spring,
whose branches climb over a wall.
With bitterness archers attacked him;
they shot at him with hostility.
But his bow remained steady,
his strong arms stayed supple,
because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob,
because of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel,
because of his Father in heaven, who helps him,
because of the Almighty, who blesses him
with blessings of the skies above,
blessings of the deep springs below,
blessings of the breast and womb.
The blessings of his Father in heaven are greater
than the blessings of the ancient mountains,
than the bounty of the age-old hills.
All these rest on the head of Elated177,
on the brow of YAHVEH's highly favoured saint, servant and messenger, Elated177, in this world.

The blessings from the East, the West, North, the South, the waters and the earth have been poured upon Elated177 by his Father in heaven, Yahveh Almighty. Elated177, the blessings of your Maker and Father in heaven have forever cancelled and nullified any curse any man or spirit has uttered or will ever utter against you.

All the good things the wind from the East, the West, the North and the South have to offer are upon Elated177.

The great and awesome power of Yahveh Almighty is in and on the head and on the brow and every single part of the body of Elated177.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah! [/s]
www.nairaland.com/attachments/10828733_108216041061887498470144ed5f239f7714775b2c8e68090bd24fdjpegjpeg2d5db1e92ec45e20eaa09e6153ee24c1jpegjpege7504aa40b2b02b420ec037c13664b6bjpeg2827741ecc492f9c10e341b2b25cafcb_jpegddb3f1a07c36556422d5d472d0d200f9
You are no Joseph, lmso. Smh sigh
You are nothing other than a gust of wind from Satan's anus, so stop wrongly appropriating Genesis 49 to yourself.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Is Greater Than I-jesus Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:15pm On Nov 25, 2020
elated177:
Muttleylaff this is how you sound: Quack..quack..quack...quack...quack..quack..quack...quack...quack.. quack... quack..quaaaack...... ....tufiakwa!

Quack..quack..quack...quack...quack.. quack ..tufiakwa! Demon-infested human being. Tufiakwa!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoJQ_C3gvzw
See your "quack..quack..quack...quack...quack.. quack ..tufiakwa" sic life, lmso

The devil would have Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ prove Himself to be God, by turning stones in bread, but God through the power of the Holy Ghost, showed the omnipotence and omnipresence of the Godhead, by turning the Rock into flesh. Praise God!. Alleluia!!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Is Greater Than I-jesus Christ by MuttleyLaff: 7:55pm On Nov 25, 2020
elated177:
Cho..Cho..Cho..Cho..Cho..tufiakwa! Demon-infested human being. Tufiakwa!
[img]https://s8/images/MuttleysGato.gif[/img]
Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk
There is someone in your head, and its not you, lmso, so stop looking for demon-infested in other human beings, but get to realise that, the demons, you are incorrectly pointing out on others, are actually inside you, they are inside that your hateful head.

I slay your kind of demons, and dissect them, to find out what you've been feeding them on. It is the reason why dealing with someone like you is soft work for me, lmso.

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