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johnydon22:
..lol.. the future..

Yes, at the appointed time in the future
Tick tock, tick tock.
Clock is ticking, and time is running out

johnydon22:
...that seems to me like a bone in ur gods throat then

On the contrary, you err,
God is not disturbed or fazed by Lucifer
Lucifer actually is playing into God hands and His scheme of things
The truth right in there, is that, God gets to taking care of a double whammy, lucifer and sin, in killing two birds, with one stone

xcapizt:
Can almighty God create a task that's so huge even he can't do?

I have been reading with keen interest the comments replying to the above post
I found SNCOQ3 and davien touch on infinity stimulating.
Got amused watching some refusing to stay "down" after getting knocked to the canvas by ihedinobi2's thread-killer post

This a pointless question, just like ihedinobi2 earlier hinted
a pointless question that has no answer, as this is a "Sisyphean Task"

You will find that almighty God will create a task that's so huge even he can't move or do
but when it comes to moving/doing it, He moves/does it.

So almighty God will create a task that's so huger than the earlier one even he can't move or do all over again
but when it comes to moving/doing it, He moves/does it, again

The cycle or repetition, goes on, constantly repeating over and over again, indefinitely as in on to infinity
Soon realise this is a never ending task
and you wont get an answer to your question because it is an unending and futile task asked off God by OP

The question of God creating something He cant move, is unnecessary,
as there is no outcome capable of producing any useful answer or response the OP anticipates

johnydon22:
...so after all this crap now.. is lucifer still there or is he no longer in existence?..

Don't be as thick as a two blank board, Lucifer's day of reckoning is in the future.

johnydon22:
according to the fable, the dude created lucifer
and that fvcker have been a pain in his a$$ ever since and he cant do shiit to stop it

Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I alone am He; there is no God but Me.
I bring death and I give life; I wound and I heal.
No one can rescue anyone from My hand.

1 Samuel 2:6
The LORD kills and brings to life;
he brings down to Sheol and raises up.

Matthew 25:41
"Then He will also say to those on His left,
'Depart from Me, accursed ones,
into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;

johnydon22:
... thats like a stone he created and he cant move the shiit...

Luke 4:34
"Go away! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth?
Have you come to destroy us?
I know who you are--the Holy One of God!"

The word "destroy" is a translation of the Greek word appolumi.
apóllymi (from 575 /apó, "away from," which intensifies ollymi,''to destroy'')
means – destroy utterly, properly, fully destroy, cutting off entirely (note the force of the prefix, 575 /apó).
http://biblehub.com/text/luke/4-34.htm

FOLYKAZE:
Make I go chop.

Will be back

Bon appetit
but dont bother doing the Arnold Schwarzenegger "I'll be back",
as if you come back in here, you'll be posting to yourself

Learn to live to fight another day

FOLYKAZE:
The chief priest is subjected to Spirituality and not science, Malokun shrine and not clinic lab.

He works in the shrine for year and many people do visit him/her there. There are lot of students who also consult him and hundreds of initiate. These people were not infested with disease except those that went there to steal from the shrine. This should bring into your sense that this is not a disease in medical radar. Heck, the thief would have gotten enough antibodies to help them suceed in their operation.

World Health have confirmed its not death caused by a viral or bacterial infection afterall but its something or a disease linked to pesticides

FOLYKAZE:
It is me that said Antibodies is ajesara?

And Okigbe has some proteinous effect on the skin, peventing it from knife cut?

Lol

Yes, you came up with Okigbe and protection from knife cuts when I, not necessarily on purpose, rubbed you the wrong way

FOLYKAZE:
I said antibiotic is aporo. You too dumb not seeing that aporo would have come in play if the disease or death is clinical.

Had it been this is all medical problem, then aporo would work. Maybe I need to teach you what tongue in the cheek is.

No can do, I pass on that
Teacher, teacher, no bi lecturer be una name
Teacher don't teach me nonsense

FOLYKAZE:
Ajesara abi?

Okigbe is effect of Y protein.

Lets talk from afar.

Dont get your knickers in a twist, you'll pull a muscle if you dont stop

FOLYKAZE:
Strawmaning. This doesnt make you have sense.

Ti inu ara is not antibodies.

Be in denial if you like, it doesnt stop the world revolving round the orbit

FOLYKAZE:
i repeat, I know logicboy when I see him.

Does this mean you are logicboy?

Or you really want to play silly?

Where were you when logicboy ran away from doll? Huh?

I made a simple statement and all you could do is to read foolish meaning into it. So when I hit you on the ground you stand, you run around like logicboy.

You live in a bubble, I'll tell you that much

FOLYKAZE:
have warned, if you continue trailing me on this Osanyin, yu will return dirty.

Eek! Look I am quaking in my boots. Not!
No weapon that is formed against me will prosper
and every tongue that accuses me in judgment will condemned.

FOLYKAZE:
I You aint logicboy. . .so stop acting like him.

Who wants to be logicboy
I am fearfully and wonderfully made. I am one of a of kind, there arent two of me
I am content being me. Me is enough for me
logicboy can be logicboy, am OK being me and me only.

FOLYKAZE:
What truth?

The truth you cant handle. The truth which will set you free, but currently is pissing you off

FOLYKAZE:
I thought you said you are unfollowing thread.

I am now and have had enough taking aspirin for another man's headache
Hasta la vista!

FOLYKAZE:
All in all.

Ajesara is not antibody

And antibodies is not "abẹrẹ ajẹsara" or immunisation vaccine either

FOLYKAZE:
I have said I dont really want to go hard with you. You do not worth the effort.

Here you go again on another self conceited ego trip

FOLYKAZE:
I could see you are trying hard to force Ajesara protein theory into a spiritual phenomenon which is wrong. Even while I am trying to correct your mistake. . . .you are only trying hard and fightin tough on a wrong premises.

Ajesara is vaccine which could help produce antibodies.
This Ajesara is called Abere ajesara by the popular yoruba speaking people.
Now, what you refuse to see is that abere-ajesara is different from Ajesara in the spiritual sense.

No I am not trying hard to force Ajesara protein theory into any "spiritual phenomenon",
but merely explaining the circumstances behind a natural phenomenon

It is you who is acting like a billy goat,
you are as stubborn as a mule, not wanting to admit that antibodies which we get from our mothers at birth
and which we also naturally build up to boost our immune system is quite different from "abẹrẹ ajẹsara" or immunisation vaccine

FOLYKAZE:
You actually can not deny ajesara is vaccine and also abere ajesara is vaccine too.
Moreso, Ajesara which you cant deny in Yoruba spiritual sense include Okigbe.
You and I know that this does not have anything to do with protein or immunizing injection.

So instead of forcing your way through ajesara, you could come clean by including abere or simply saying antibodies.
You dont just blab around with the complexity of yoruba language else you go lost.

"abẹrẹ kọ, needle abi stringe ni.

FOLYKAZE:
Stop crying over a splitted milk.

What you were referring to is Antibodies and not ajesara. They are too different things so why would you apply them as one?

I told youI borrowed "ajẹsara" for lack of better translation of antibodies.
It was the closest I could think of which I knew you would recognise and relate to
I didnt think Google Translate would have a translation for antibodies
but it actually does and calls antibodies in in yoruba as "ti inu ara"
and calls "ti inu ara" in english as "of body", which makes sense as antibodies are of body, in the body anyway

FOLYKAZE:
Another thing is that you turn around accusing me of mistakenly translating Antibibodies to Abere Ajesara and Immunization vaccine.

but that is what you did, abi mo parọ mo ẹ ni?

FOLYKAZE:
Meanwhile, you failed to realise that vaccine work by inducing Blymphocytes to produce antibodies.
The best to do since there is no word for antibodies in Yoruba is to beat it down to it working process through Abere ajesara.

There is nothing like natural forming of antibodies in Yoruba. You only make yourself foolish by relaying terminology that doesnt have relation to an expression here thereby you loose a ground.

There are so many natural forming things that is in known or has a yoruba naming,
and it doesnt diminish the fact that they things inspite of not having a yoruba word exists
For examples, what is gay in yoruba, what is transsexual in yoruba, what is transvestite in yoruba?

FOLYKAZE:
Ti inu ara as well does not make any sense. Antibodies is not ti inu ara in Yoruba. Ti inu ara means that of the body. This does not equate antibodies.

FOLYKAZE! I salute you. Ah why now, irọ ojukoroju, what a big fat lie.
"ti inu ara" means inside the body, and "ti ara" means that of the body

FOLYKAZE:
Okigbe (knife cut) has to do with Ajesara which you popped up.

We, I know that

FOLYKAZE:
antibodies is not ajesara. Accessing the link wont prove otherwise.

We know that antibodies is not necessarily or really ajesara per se.
The link was proving to you that people already as you wished
are "taking 'ise or aseje' to lab and turning all spiritual art to scientific practices" from this educating site:
http://pdl.com/technology-products/what-are-humanized-monoclonal-antibodies/

FOLYKAZE:
Why cant you simply say antibodies? Why fussing that into ajesara?

I told I borrowed "ajẹsara" for lack of better translation of antibodies.
It was the closest I could think of which I knew you would recognise and will relate to

FOLYKAZE:
Check what ti inu ara is in english. Does it give you antibodies back?
Your arrogance knows no bound.

It calls antibodies in in yoruba as "ti inu ara"
and calls "ti inu ara" in english as "of body", which makes sense as antibodies, are, of body, as in, in the body, anyway

FOLYKAZE:
Nope, vaccination work by inducing Blymphocytes to produce antibodies.

I am glad you've looked things up a bit but laughed at your attempt to gloss over what vaccination really is
Like I have said times without number, we, our bodies produces antibodies to fight infection
Vaccination introduces germs into the body, consequently it induces the immune system to produce antibodies to fight the germs off

FOLYKAZE:
When ajesara doesnt work, you resorted to blackmailing.

It's you who is on a long thing

FOLYKAZE:
Your premises is wrong. Still from ya head.

As you wish my friend, but observers reading this thread would have been able to fill the syllogism too.

FOLYKAZE:
Your brain doesnt tell you some women went into the shrine after the epidemy.
So the shrine been home of diesease is ruled out.

You must have heard Fela sing water has no enemy
So you too noticed the women, OK, well the women were pouring water to sanitize the place

FOLYKAZE:
I was been too soft on you but it seem you want to prove doggy.

I already said you were self conceited

FOLYKAZE:
Ajesera popularly known as abere ajesara is called vaccination in english.
Here is a link for help https://translate.google.com/m?hl=en&sl=yo&tl=en&ie=UTF-8&prev=_m&q=ajesara

So what the hell are you trying to prove?

I told you, for lack of an actual or exact translation, and for you to relate, I had to do with referring antibodies as "ajẹ sara" for you.
You even tried too hard to translate antibodies
and ended up mistakenly referring to it as "abẹrẹ ajẹsara" or immunisation vaccine

I WASN'T talking of "abẹrẹ ajẹsara" or immunisation vaccine but was talking about the naturally forming antibodies "ajẹ sara"

Thank you for reminding me of Google Translate which you endorse, as it reliably has translated antibodies to mean "ti inu ara" and not "ajẹ sara" which I borrowed as a translation

This is spot on, a very good and close translation, as antibodies are inside the bodies truly, just as I have kept on saying

FOLYKAZE:
Vaccination does not have anything to do with Yoruba spirituality.
I dont know why you are trying to force this crap into my ancestry system.

I have told you what ajesara mean in our spiritual circle. Example i s Okigbe. So I dont know how protein protect one from knife cut.

The thread is about death from coming into contact with a shrine and its artsfacts
why are you single-minded and obsessed with protection one from a knife cut
Did I miss something, did the youth die from knife cuts?

FOLYKAZE:
Still not accessible from my end.

It's accessible from my end
Dont know if its down to your dodgy service provider, crappy phone or the contention ratio where you are

FOLYKAZE:
Yet again, nothing on google from your post explain how ajesara guild one from been dared or disrespected.
You need to explain how protein protect one from bullet penetration.

As you would soon notice below, I was talking of protection from bacterial and viral infection by "ti inu ara",
it is you who keeps bringing in this claptrap about guarding oneself from being dared or disrespected
You are so thick about antibodies, you havent a clue of its make-up and what it does
All you want to do, is howl in agony about protecting oneself from bullet penetration etc
when all we are talking about is protection from a viral or bacterial attack

FOLYKAZE:
Crap. What is this https://translate.google.com/m?hl=en&sl=yo&tl=en&ie=UTF-8&prev=_m&q=ajesara?

Ajesara is called vaccination in yoruba.

Yeah crap. As earlier said, thank you as I completely forgot about Google Translate
Didnt think it will have a translation for antibodies
It says it is "ti inu ara" which is very true, as antibodies are inside the body used by the immune system as earlier all along was saying

Meanwhile FOLYKAZE was doing his worst, trying his best to make us believe antibodies are immune vaccination or antibiotics

FOLYKAZE:
Lol

"The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off "

FOLYKAZE:
This deduction is from ya head.

In the field it is what is called syllogism

FOLYKAZE:
This s mere saying. . . .nothing to prove ya point.

Did you test the oluwo immune system?

Not remotely concerned about testing the Oluwo
will be more interested if chief priest makes himself available to the relevant health department for clinical observation and testing

FOLYKAZE:
Ma pe aja lobo fun mi joor.

Dont play the victim card here.
It's you trying to pull a fast one and comparing apples to oranges

FOLYKAZE:
There is aporo for the shiiit you talking about.

Is one born with "aporo"?
Does one naturally form "aporo" in the body?

FOLYKAZE:
I am getting tired of this crap.

You shouldn't be tired of crap, as you like shiiiit. You roll with crap
You're an ignorant self conceited big piece of crap

FOLYKAZE:
Just tell me the chief priest injected himself with immunizing drugs.

I can do better than that with the help of Google Translate.
I absent mindedly didnt check Google Translate first, but you reminded me of it.
You couldnt answer what antibodies is in yoruba, but if you've found out that vaccination according to Google Translate is "ajesara"
Then I too with the help of Google Translate, safely concludes the chief priest had "ti inu ara"

FOLYKAZE:
I know logicboy when he writes.

You sure are so much into self delusions sha
and so fond of making spurious reasoning resulting in nonsense
Was it after consulting Osanyin that you were told this poster Muttleylaff is logicboy

FOLYKAZE:
Dont bring Osanyin when you know that you would run away when challenged.

Not me, but you brother first brought Osanyin into this matter when you wrote:
"we need the energy of osanyin"
"With osanyin, medical expert should drill out knowledge of herbs.
This would bring improvement to our health section. And also steer us back ho,e rather than running to foreign countries."

Bet you've forgotten about that Osanyin claptrap shiiiit you posted twice earlier today

FOLYKAZE:
ouch!!!!

I know the feeling, I feel your pain. The truth hurts man.

FOLYKAZE:
cheers

Dont cheers me, not me. Raise your glass to your star and thank it instead

FOLYKAZE:
So it 'aje-sara' which you called protein that makes sharp object from penetrating the body?

No!.
Never said antibodies are body armours, that's you doing confused.com
Didnt say it is an invisible or physical clothing, worn to protect against gunfire or that it stops sharp objects from penetrating the body.

FOLYKAZE:
Okigbe is protein and anti-body?

No. You're doing another confused.com

FOLYKAZE:
Some felas are just sick.

Will reply to this comment later as in later below

FOLYKAZE:
Your website is not accessible.

Have you not heard "if at first you don't succeed, try, try again"
It is accessible now,
if not, just link on the "What are Humanized Monoclonal Antibodies?" link on the left side bar

FOLYKAZE:
Your arrogance stinks Mr.
I think what you call ajesara is the popular abere ajesara which is immunisation vaccine.

For lack of an actual or exact translation, and for you to relate, I had to do with referring antibodies as "ajẹ sara" for you.
You are even trying too hard to translate antibodies
and have ended up mistakenly referring to it as "abẹrẹ ajẹsara" or immunisation vaccine
I WASN'T talking of "abẹrẹ ajẹsara" or immunisation vaccine but was talking about the naturally forming antibodies "ajẹ sara"

FOLYKAZE:
Those who read your gilberish would think you are intelligent without knowing that your ignorance have no boundary.
Do Oluwo use vaccine too? What happens to Agunmu and Aseje?

Babalawo or the priest dont take useless vaccine when we have enough agbo in the pot and ere in cups.

I careless of Oluwo, Babalawo or priest taking "useless" vaccine when there is "enough agbo in the pot and ere in cups"
but talking of the Chief Priest in this thread having an immune system of antibodies strong enough to resist and ward of getting infected by the bacteria or viruses

FOLYKAZE:
When you say Ajesara, I thought you were referring to charms taken into the body either by swallowing or incision. What they take in usually are cowries, little calabash (also called ado for those that seeso) or animal and bird burnt to ashes.
This does not serve as anti-bodies but protect one from physical attack usually from cutlass or knife or any sharp object.

You see yourself now, I am and was talking of resistance to bacteria or viral attack
and not protection from physical attack such as from cutlass, knife, guns or any other sharp object.

FOLYKAZE:
Problem of not having charm at hand when needed especially from time and place factor is what brought aje-sara into Yoruba system. Therefore it will be in there body for as long as it is needed. There is no way protein could stop knife from penetrating the body.

As said, "ajẹ sara" is the closest word in yoruba parlance, best suit to translate antibodies as

FOLYKAZE:
Here is the list of charm yoruba folks 'je sara'

- okigbe (serve for preventing sharp object penetration).

- madarikan (it serve purpose of preventing folks from daring us).

- eyonu (it serve the purpose of dilutting other person anger toward you).

- ifura (vigilance).

- owo (respect).

That is for that.

Now is payback time and a good place to reply to a comment I promised earlier to later do

You cant stop being ignorant or stop playing dumb and pretending not to know or understand
because are so self conceited and overly involved or preoccupied with osanyin and a maze of other mumbo jumbo

You are so super into shiiiit. You're so full of shiiit, you're a pro, you're the "pro" in coprophilia.

Notice I can retaliate and return in kind,
as in, if you dont want to be civil in your posts or courteous in your replies, I can give as good as I get.

FOLYKAZE:
Antibiotic in Yoruba is called aporo and not ajesara.
Irele has lot of aporo when it comes to different disease. This is something you can buy from market.
And note, there is nothing proteinous in our aporo unless you provide a scientific report to prove otherwise.

Antibodies are given to us at birth from our mothers and we also naturally make more of them in the body ourselves
We are talking about antibiotic or immunisation vaccine, like you're ignorantly claiming or misleading all to believe antibodies to be.

If according to you, Mr Intelligence, antibiotic in Yoruba is called aporo, what is antibodies in yoruba called then?

FOLYKAZE:
Ajesara is not producing any silly protein.
Protein does not give person more respect, it does not stop person from been dared.
You are the one trying hard to make sense out of your nonsense.

What you ignorantly rubbished and downplayed as silly protein,
is actually, a bunch of life saving Y-shaped specialized immune protein molecules used to attack the spread of bacteria and viruses in the body or compromised organs

Dont know where you got "Protein gives person more respect, or lets a person be daring" from.

FOLYKAZE:
And dont forget, you fit into eni ti aye nse ti oun lo ogun eje.
Someone been attacked spiritually that went ahead to use blood tonic. You are only decieving yourself.

Like earlier, will not dignify the above with a comment

FOLYKAZE:
Abere ajesara is not ajesara. They are two different things.
This is what you should learn to know

I've made the distinction between "abẹrẹ ajẹsara" and "ajẹsara" as not the same thing
It's you interpreting antibodies or "ajẹsara" as "abẹrẹ ajẹsara" or immunisatiojn vaccine
and this is what you are finding hard to get your head round or learn

*unfollows thread

FOLYKAZE:
Med.

Med? Typical of you, treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humour

Can you for a minute please stop being ignorant or stop playing dumb and pretending not to know or understand

Antibodies also called immunoglobulins, or "ajẹ sara" for you,
are large Y-shaped proteins which are used to identify and help remove foreign antigens or targets such as viruses and bacteria

We all, at birth, get a certain fair good amount of antibodies from our mothers,
as our immune system depends on, relies on and calls up on the antibodies to fight against infection.

Also as we grow up and get exposed to dirt, germs, bacteria etc we acquire more antibodies to build up our immune system, as the immune system uses the antibodies to fight the germs etc to protect us getting infection from them

When people go and exhume dead bodies from God knows what kind of death the dead body died from
then an epidemic of this nature or widespread occurrence of an infectious disease like this in a community is bound to happen

FOLYKAZE:
Experts did not say those youth were infected with bat or vir.

Experts are baffled and at the moment are outwitted by the bacteria or viruses causing this.

The jury even, is still out, undecided, on what befell the youth
some attribute it, to the youth exhuming a dead decomposed body,
some say sacrilege from entering the shrine and desecrated it, brought this on,
some say stolen from their shrine by taking objects from it caused this.

Without doubting, this is a bacterial or viral infections, sad thing is they dont know yet which bacteria or virus is causing the death

FOLYKAZE:
If that is the issue, there are anti-bodies that could have been used in the hospital.
So stop trying hard to make sense from your nonsense

You first need to know what you are confronting or fighting against
as earlier said, they dont know yet which bacteria or virus they are faced with causing these deaths

At the moment the official statement from Ondo State Governor, Dr Olusegun Mimiko, is that the symptoms observed in Ode-Irele bear no resemblance to those associated with the Ebola Virus Disease or any known epidemic disease

The anti-bodies that could have been used in the hospital might come in handy when the infection they atre facing is known or identified

FOLYKAZE:
You are the typical description of eleni ti aye n se ti o logun eje.

Cant dignify the above with a comment

FOLYKAZE:
Since you said aje-sara gives people special protein then we should take 'ise or aseje' to lab and turn all spiritual art to scientific practices.

People have and are already taking 'ise or aseje' to lab and turning all spiritual art to scientific practices.

Take a note of some "taking 'ise or aseje' to lab and turning all spiritual art to scientific practices" from this educating site:
http://pdl.com/technology-products/what-are-humanized-monoclonal-antibodies/

FOLYKAZE:
Aje sara produce protein?

Load of shiiiit.

special proteins that the immune system relies upon bro
special proteins not your ordinary proteins
Without them, we all be in big shiiiit, will be dead meats,
be in serious trouble like those youths
and at the mercy of bacteria and viruses

Oyinprince:
U still dey defend ur lie

Very well. As you wish.
By the way, as it happens, like your music though.
Are you still at it? Any more, like any more done recently or lately?

WinsomeX:
That's Gombs for you. You find him loosing out on a thread discuss, like he always does anyway, and then he resorts to personal attacks.

Gombs, if you were so sure of where Oyaks got his PHD from, why did you have to resort to your female monicker
- Lambinopeace to announce to the house? Why not just say it with the Gombs monicker?

Didnt want it to be me, saying or noticing that
Oopsy daisy, but the cat is out of the bag now
Thought that was insiders knowledge

WinsomeX:
You catch cold and develop fever over people using different monickers but when you do it, with diabolical motives, it is OK.

You need help. When you eventually leave that cult you call a church, you will need years of rehabilitation or you may loose it.

Will need years of rehabilitation or may loose it? Ye, you're too hard on him

WinsomeX:
Marchman,

Find a real church and go there. CE is a cult. Study my thread below to understand my position. Note the salient post I put on the first post:

www.nairaland.com/2237377/christ-embassy-church-cult

The points you have raised against the church, their lack of transparency, finances, etc, are child's play to the real issues bugging that church.

Good Luck.

This is easier said than done to go find a real church to go to.
You and I know, his missus is sold out to CE, up to the hilt and tipping
so as I said earlier to OP, he sholud not be distressed, for the joy of the LORD is his strength
God will make a way where there seems to be no way

Gombs:
^^Sharaaaap

You sure have a way of displaying your temper tantrums if you can't get your own way

Gombs:
and face my question, do you still think he was using his brain when typing that?

When and where did you ask the question if he was using his brain

Gombs:
You only saw the grandfather part right? You didn't see How can I fear what does not exist? Hell was the creation of a few to decieve the gullible many.

For obvious reasons.

Now, I want to discredit him? Hahahahahahhahahahahahahhahah. He said belief in hell was for the gullible bla bal bla... Nohong was wrong with it, shey? Remember, he was a CE member when he typed this.... You don't seem to object it, but I'm the one discrediting? Hahahahahaahhahahahahahaha

Maybe you're crediting him for that post.

Maybe he was high or his account was hacked, maybe he was mistaken.. But I want you to see that to your band of misfits, he's ok... so far he speaks against CE in any remote way.

You guys can join the certificate 'fraud', the accountability et to the WoF and CE is a cult threads, and type away.

Goodnight joor

*unfollows thread

Not related to thread topic, so will not dignify the above with a comment

Gombs:
Funny...

Sammied was on the other page, though he said he was not member you guys thought he's brainwashed and biased. However,

Any monicker who comes up and claim CE member, and flies your flags, such are right thinkers and definitely wise!

See who you lots called one who's using his brain,. I hope you all endorse this too.

https://www.nairaland.com/726910/fear-hell#8847094

If he likes let him be a cec member since birth, I don't see how that introduction helps his case though!

If you don't like the leadership of a Church, why not quit? Life's that easy.

Did you have to drag this in, him questioning where his grandfather is right now, in here, on to this thread?
You must be forced to desperate measures for want to smear and discredit OP this way
Why cant you guys please stick to the thread's bone of contention about where the Ph.d was obtained from?

Oyinprince:
10years?

Abeg, let the Op answer for himself.

Yes ooo, since 2006 which is almost 10 years and that's the gospel truth, so no need for OP to answer for himself
but I see you're one of those people who don't like to read or hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed

IfyAwazie:
But d medicine is not dat popular again. I hate d taste.

Never liked the taste too

pretydiva:
Never heard of alabunkun powder
..warris dat

https://s7.postimg.org/3m2t79s8r/alabukun.jpg

Oyinprince:
^^ Is the Op really a CE member?

He sure really is a CE member

Oyinprince:
If he is, then he must have just joined recently.

No. He hasn't joined recently
Put it this way, he is a long standing member with a shave off 10 years combined fellowshipping at CE Lagos and Abuja
Sorry to be a the bearer of a-not-too-good news to you

vooks:
Sure, he still has his brains intact and is still capable of using them.

Answer the OP's question now

I like OP's spirit
His brains truly is intact and he sure is still capable of using them since time immemorial
You just have to wonder about people who don't find his posts on or about CE endearing
OP do not be distressed, for the joy of the LORD is your strength

FOLYKAZE:
When you think someone would wise up, you will see them drawing straw after been bitten black and blue.

The shrine and all in it, rightly is a breeding ground for disease in a not-germ-free surroundings
The shrine is a disease ridden place because of the fetish activities carried out in it,
the place and its artifacts over the years are often in an unclean state and unhygienic conditions

FOLYKAZE:
Who told you the priest use antibodies when they want to enter the shrine?

OK, lets do this in the local or shrine parlance you will be comfortable with

The Chief Priest has "ajẹ sara". We all have "ajẹ sara" in us and different efficient or effective levels of immune system

"Ajẹ sara" is produced in our bodies and helps it combat aliens it comes into contact with

"Ajẹ sara" are special proteins that the immune system produces to help protect the body against these alein bacteria and viruses

"Ajẹ sara" will combine chemically with substances which the body recognizes as alien, such as bacteria, viruses and foreign substances in the blood picked up from places like that shrine and objects in it like those artifacts

The chief priest's immune system is strong and resistant to the bacteria, viruses and foreign substances in the shrine or on the artifact
obviously his immune resistance to the bacteria etc is passed down the genes through heredity and the immune system also built up over the years

FOLYKAZE:
Are there no people there? The Malokun boys, Aworo, Omo-awo (students) and consultants there too use anti bodies shey?

The Malokun boys, Aworo, Omo-awo (students) and consultants might not be that as lucky as the Chief Priest in regards area of the "Ajẹ sara" or antibodies. Sorry

FOLYKAZE:
Why cant you just go there with your antibodies, destroy the shrine and wait for repercussion?

As earlier said, disinfect the shrine and all thats in it,
note doing this, is to destroy or prevent the growth of these disease-carrying microorganisms
then going in and out of the shrine after that, for you, I and all, will be just like taking a pleasant, skipping walk in the park with diddly squat repercussion

FOLYKAZE:
When I told my atheist friends that the Gods are not dead or asleep, they would think I am superstitious.

When I told my christian and muslim friends that the Gods in Africa land are powerful and potent than the dead on stick jew and the blood sucking terrorist mohaMAD, they wont let me have peace.

Scientist should be scared of superpower now. This is the disease that is not known or have remedy. I think they need to start learning how to make rituals.

The Gods have proven themselves. This is what we call swift response. Church and Mosque could have been ransacked but do not dare destroy the shrine of the Gods. You will surely get yourself blame immediately.

The Youth have bitten more than they can chew. They should be punished accordingly though I do not wish them death. I wish they could be alive today, return what they have stolen and appeal to the Gods.

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You unknowingly spotted the truth.
You hit the nail on the head about this being a disease, because the shrine is a disease ridden place,
rightly a breeding ground for disease over the years, if not centuries

The shrine and the artifacts in it are so contaminated with all sorts of germs and bacteria that they pose a danger to public health

The youth, quite rightly have bitten more than they can chew because they entered a place which is bacterial infested

That place, the shrine and its artifacts, will give human illnesses caused by infection with either disease-causing bacteria or viruses.
These disease-causing bacteria or viruses, upon contact with the body or after gaining access to the body, will ravage it.

It will be doomsday for anyone that comes into contact with the shrine, without antibodies like those the Chief Priest has in him,
obviously the antibodies in the Chief Priest have been built up and passed down in his genes through heredity

Disinfect the shrine and all thats in it, doing this to destroy or prevent the growth of these disease-carrying microorganisms
and going in and out of the shrine after that, will be just like taking a pleasant, skipping walk in the park.

There are some intelligence in your post but the bulk is misleading, fairy tale and scaremongering

Notice brother that I havent brought religion, faith or "dead on stick jew and the blood sucking terrorist mohaMAD" in to this

Gombs:
^^Did you ask idahosa, Dollar, Monroe etc for their thesis? Did you question it?

Now, someone has given you date and class and University, what now?

She gave you a topic to debate on... His car. That's one sweet ride you know.. Ask PastorKun, he's into auto business.

Thank you but no thank you about the car
No one is remotely interested in his car.

Marchman:
Oral roberts University? That's good to know

Dont tell that you fell for that
Gombs had to wait for LambanoPeace to come up with something that will ward off prying eyes a bit, like this poor attempt of a save-my-bacon Oral Roberts University fairy tale
These guys must have been politicians in a previous life, that's if there is anything like a previous life

Marchman:
Would check if his name is on the website. It is also strange that mention of this was made up till sometime last year when he started showing up with a PHD. Would check.

If Pastor Chris is embarrassed of his alma mater that gave him the Ph.D
or ashamed of it, to the extent of keeping quiet about its name
then good luck with checking his name on the website
Bet you get diddly-squat about him too if you phone

Pastor Chris is not known to be publicity-shy, but he is on this one about the origin of his Ph.D

WinsomeX:
At least now we know where Oyakhilome got his "PHD" from.

Marchman, how come you are a member of CE and open this kind of thread?

Dont say you bought that line,
or are you playing along with the illusion?

LambanoPeace:
Come on now chaps, which honorary degree holder puts P.HD behind his name?
Why would he lie that he has a P.HD? to please/prove what to who?

Others wondered why but you tell us why please
Not to please/prove what, to who, but to thwart speculations such as these arising

LambanoPeace:
it's saddening to see grown up men rally round to criticise a man's PhD, of ALL things. Some go as far as concluding it was an honorary degree, some said he just lying.

What you interpret as criticise is merely and simply acts of observing

LambanoPeace:
If he's educated or not, how does that stop him from beings used by God?

He read architecture, didnt he, so no one is questioning him having been educated or not

LambanoPeace:
How does the validity or not of his PhD add or reduce anything from the body of Christ?

It doesnt except that it is a harmless matter of interest

LambanoPeace:
Some said if he had actually had a Phd, CE members would have his pictures every where.
He did it quiet now, it's still an issue

He is keeping quiet where he obtained the PH.D from is more like it

LambanoPeace:
if he has thrown a graduation party, guess who will come here and open threads, calling him names and how he glorify in vain things, how his showoff is getting out of hand etc..don't you all ever get tired?

You're making false and very wild assumptions here, arent you now?
OK, what names was he called when he celebrated his 50th birthday party?
Has anyone to date accused him of showing off then or after?

LambanoPeace:
For the records, he attended Oral Roberts University, class of 2010/2011. Write or visit ORU for his thesis.

For the record Benson Idahosa was awarded a doctorate of Law from Oral Roberts University.
Creflo Dollar was awarded a honorary Doctor of Divinity from Oral Roberts University.
Myles Munroe was an adjunct professor of the Graduate School of Theology at Oral Roberts University
The list goes on
There wasnt any need to write or visit ORU for the above about their awards,
so why are people finding it easier to avoid the subject altogether about who awarded Pastor Chris his Ph.D

LambanoPeace:
now move to the next, criticize his car... a 2014 Toyota Land Cruiser GXR V8, customized and bullet proof... that's one of his cars though.

Now this last sentence above is not from a supposedly grown up but from a Christian getting to behave like a neonate

davidylan:
Sometimes... its just ok to say i dont know.

petres007:
And act human for once. . . Its nauseating seeing Gombs and others switch to defensive mode even when it isn't necessary.

I don't know = I don't know.

End of thread

davidylan:
P.S. Its most likely a honorary doctorate
but his TV/media people are mistaking it for an earned PhD.
Methinks its not such a serious issue
(unless Pastor Chris himself actually is claiming to have PHD he doesn't, which I think would be far too low, even for him).
There are far more pertinent non-personal matters I think we should dwell more on, such as his theology and the fruit its bearing.

but Pastor Chris himself, appends the 3 letter Ph.D at the end of his name doesnt he?

Nothing new under the sun
Apart from the bought doctrates pictures above, Kermit the Frog, from Sesame Street and The Muppet Show too has a Ph.D,
its honorary doctorate of Amphibious Letters was awarded in 1996.

https://s16.postimg.org/mo5ltc5yd/Kemit_Grad.jpg
Kermit prepares to give his big speech.

WinsomeX:
“If a man of God is married,
it doesn’t automatically mean that the wife of a man of God is therefore a woman of God.
That’s not the way it is in the Bible. That’s why you don’t really find the wives of men of God mentioned in the Bible.
You never find their names”, he added.
At this point, one of the female pastors asked to know why the names of wives of the men of God were not found in the Bible.
Oyakhilome’s response was that she should ask God whenever she finds him.
“Why? You ask God when you find him. Ask God when you find him”, he exclaimed

MuttleyLaff:
Didnt realise he will be wearing and easily putting on a male chauvinist hat

Rather he say, "I dont honestly know why"
instead of the weasel out and patronizing reply of "Why? You ask God when you find him. Ask God when you find him"

As can be seen from the snide reply in the second to the last post above, it's what they've heard or seen the head honcho do
It is a habit subliminally picked up or learned from the top
If not just too averse to it, what's wrong in simply saying "I dont honestly know why" or "I Dont Know"

https://s9.postimg.org/ojisgz16n/fakedoc.jpg
[size=20pt]The bogus Irish International University(IIU)[/size]
http://www.pointblanknews.com/os739.html

Bogus university scam uncovered, offers sub-standard and worthless degrees

He said:
"Students are paying for this, what I would regard as worthless and bogus qualifications.
I would say buyer beware from the point of view of students.

You know I really think that they'll probably be getting qualifications
which are unlikely to be taken seriously at least in Western Europe."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7175730.stm

sammied:
Ricky Joyner could rebuke Todd Bentley when he fell... Why? Because he's a man of impeccable character and we can all see what he's built over the years.

Reinhard Bonke was involved in restoring Benny hinns marriage. In fact he rebuked and I told Benny he must get back to his wife. Today their marriage is fully restored and moving forward. I have plenty more examples. And of course, the works Bonke have done for the Lord, are we waiting till eternity to know at least some of it? These are men of strong character and Godly results.

sammied:
So the examples of Rick Joyner and Reinhard Bonke I gave is not enough for you? You didn't read it?

Now I remember that I was warned about you people always avoiding the truths earlier even when it there for you to see.

Oyakhilome is not my Pastor, I don't go to CE. I AM A LOVER OF EVERYONE IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.

One thing is certain you don't have that right, neither Winsomex.

What's with the Ricky Joyner and Reinhard Bonke cringing name dropping?

Also get the facts right, Benny didnt want out from his wife, but it was the other way round, his wife wanted out
so saying "he rebuked and I told Benny he must get back to his wife" is making up stories
Unless you want to stir up what lies under the floorboards, Benny wasnt leaving his wife and never needed to get back to her

Kerch$ing mullah and the once tasted privileged lifestyle of the rich,
had a lot to do with his wife withdrawing her divorce proceeding and toeing the line again

LoudJams:
from the look of things, I would question her claim,
because if she did really donate £100k, why is she boarding on the train with me?
she should be driving a Porsche Jeep or so.... sometimes people exagerate things, just like she did.

LoudJaaaaaaaams, ah and you said all these for ground
it's not spoiled as I know before thinking it through you rashly posted the above
People commute by tube or train out of convenience etc
The £100K could have been part of the proceeds from selling her house

"sometimes people exagerate things, just like she did" yes and thats exactly what I thought of the original post
an exaggerated and embellished one-sided story

WinsomeX:
As you work on that please tell us where Pastor Chris got his PHD from. Year, etc.
When and how he became a Prof.

PastorKun:
This simple question has been repeated several times on this forum over the last five years yet not once as any cec cultist attempted to answer the question, they always evade it only to come back later to claim their cult leader has a PHD.

Maybe when ice starts to form in hell, an answer the question might surface from them
As it is at the moment, the" no answer to the question" situation is unlikely to change now or in the foreseeable future
because non of them have the chutzpah to ask to him to his face about it

WinsomeX:
lol

I'm hearing it for the first time. And the question seem to be so difficult to answer.

Ah, hin don tay wey yansh don dey for back nahin that hin be for that matter

ABDULADINO:
Babagnoni..your writes up are unmistakable.

Doppelganger, didnt that ever cross your mind at all
By the way, it's good to finally put faces to posters

Here they come again, mmmm-mm-mm
Catch us if you can, mmmm-mm-mm
Time to get a move on, mmmm-mm-mm
We will yell with all of our might!
[drums kick in]
Catch us if you can.

Hello, Poosie-cats! You looking for a nice fat mouse for deenner?
Andale! Andale! Arriba! Arriba! Yii-hah! Yee-pa Yee-pa! You cannot catch me eeeee!

An2elect2:
Hi op am afraid but the woman sounds like she knows what she is talking about.

How come you didn't share with us what you said to her that shut her up?

You got up to rebuke the spirit in her and she kept quiet. And then you pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Kikikiki you know what a sane Christian will do? open the scriptures and prove this woman wrong. That is if she is wrong.

If i was in her shoes i'll do the same thing. I'll shut up. Not because you charged me too but because i wouldn't want to waste my time on someone who has thrown common sense and tact on how to handle doctrinal disparities.

Am amazed you even likened her outburst to someone possessed by some evil spirit. Really? how is a person who has been robbed by people she trusted as oracles of God suppose to react when she sees other gullible folks toeing the same path? isn't that a cry of some one who cares?

And the tithe. Common! slaves of the law and seekers of acceptance before God based on merit, are you not aware that we are not under a levitical priesthood or the law but under grace? does the Scripture teach Christians tithe or giving freely as purposed in our hearts?

SMH look how far we've deviated from the truth.

cc LoudJams
I read the original post I was thinking to myself we only know one side of this embellished story,
I then continued reading the subsequent posts
but the above post captured, completely, my internal monologue on the original post and the poster

Pity about the "white lady" that got a raw deal on her donated £100K to a church, pity she got burned and pity she got scammed

Jeromejnr:
Yea that's a better question. Some strange teachings in the church these days.

I just wanted to know her denomination so I could understand where the root of her belief comes from.

To start with she has in the past fraternized with DCLM
She broke free of DCLM's shackles and threw them off
Her current circle, whom she associates with, rub minds with or fellowships with is yours or anyones guess