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Christianity Etc › Re: Please How True Is This Pic? by MuttleyLaff: 7:40pm On May 04, 2015
johnydon22:
hahahahahahahahaha
[size=20]Ok he wasnt killed for shagging his brother's wife many times
but just because he chose not to pour inside... [/size]
Yes he wasnt killed for shagging his brother's wife many times,
but was taken out for going against the grain when he "chose not to pour inside" as was expected of him to do

johnydon22:
it is simply very clear..
OK, not saying you're slow on the uptake
but I do appreciate not all do understand the practical and moral implications of the dastardly deeds here
This wicked act is denying the widow of an inheritance and chances of survival
The man was happily straffing away and shinninng his congo BUT repeatedly refusing to face up to reality and to his responsibility

His been shown the exit, served as a deterrent to others thinking of planning to do the same
and sent a strong message that God frowns on such selfish, self centred wicked and cruel act.

johnydon22:
Oya continue everybody is seeing you glaring twisting tactics,
try so hard we know this is not even a debate.... am loving this grin grin
Yes, you're so quick to whine and point an accusing "everybody is seeing your glaring twisting tactics" finger to the other party
when three bony ones are pointing back at you
Trust me, you're not loving this as much as I do grin grin
Art, Graphics & Video › Re: Can You Read This In First Attempt? (pic) by MuttleyLaff: 7:06pm On May 04, 2015
bukatyne:
No sex causes bad eyes?

Is that What your doc told you?
No, and dont believe that myth
I think its wanking, the other myth says causes bad eyes
Christianity Etc › Re: Please How True Is This Pic? by MuttleyLaff: 6:54pm On May 04, 2015
johnydon22:
hahahahaha have you finished ? after all this you still helped me make my point. . .
[size=20]He was taken out for not spilling into his brother's wife right[/size] grin..
hahahahaha chai bible oooo
Yes, I have finished for now and especially at that juncture
but you my friend, you're very delusional, as I didnt help you make no point

Has already mentioned severally before, he was taken out, after more than one time of not doing the right thing as expected of him
This is wickedness.
Are you familiar with the inheritance structure set up and widow plights of that era
Do you understand the gravity of his act and the effect to the welfare or quality of life of this widow?

What sort of living with a false sense of triumph are you salivating and cheering on about now?
Facepalm, I give up
.
Art, Graphics & Video › Re: Can You Read This In First Attempt? (pic) by MuttleyLaff: 6:43pm On May 04, 2015
Ujupsy:
Why must one close her eye 90% to see this
Without squinting the eyes almost shut you wont decipher it

vfactor:
Amazing! How do people even come up with stuffs like this?
Another method is quickly scroll up and down your fone screen (better if u use a touch screen device)
Try this without using the phone though

https://s18.postimg.org/6ka0nwccp/Optical_Illusions_Eye_Test_Chart_1_gif.jpg
Politics › Re: GMB's Verdict On 'AIT' Justified By Nigerians by MuttleyLaff: 5:25pm On May 04, 2015
dazdilijae:
You are making a big mistake my friend.
The day you vie for public office to be paid with public funds you loss the right to privacy
Read the public service rule, Constitution and freedom of information bill
PEACE
No he is not making a big mistake
Though we've come to know it isnt true
Whether vied for public office, getting paid with public funds, losing the right to privacy,
in America, even with its 1st Ammendment, the Clinton administration, the Bush administration with the few odd Governors and even the current POTUS and FLOTUS do get to tell reporters what not to do, where to eff of, when to jump in the lake etc
Politics › Re: GMB's Verdict On 'AIT' Justified By Nigerians by MuttleyLaff: 4:57pm On May 04, 2015
Sirniyeh:
You are making mistake. You are making reference to portion of human right in the constitution.
Remember that I owe every right to my privacy. If you are not allowed to my room, no crime in it.
It is not a must for AIT to force itself into the terrain where not permitted. Inspite of human right,
Every media house must seek permission before coverage. That's why you hear secret meetings everywhere.
We now all know, this is an incoming opposition propaganda.
GMB didnt ban AIT, he actually rolled out the red carpet with full works for them

Though not true,
but if were to be, it would have kind of be akin to when Alex Ferguson boycotted BBC
He lifted his ban on talking to the BBC after 7 years of avoiding post-match interviews

Or Sam Allardyce and Harry Redknapp, both who decided to decline to be interviewed by BBC after the Panorama investigation into alleged malpractice in football transfers
Christianity Etc › Re: Please How True Is This Pic? by MuttleyLaff:
johnydon22:
and his wickedness was pulling out instead of ejaculation in his brother's wife ...right? wink
Mr Johny, allow me to repeat myself, once more:
He however was not taken out directly because of the act
but for the selfish thought that he can get way with a pull out plan of "why buy a cow when you can get milk for free"
He was expected to buy the cow, not to milk it free and thereby plan to shy away from his responsibilities

johnydon22:
Am sure you are trying to be dishonest here and as usual lie for god... wink
lets see the cause of his death..

Genesis 38:8-10
8Then Judah said to Onan,
“Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.”
9But Onan knew that the child would not be his;
so [size=20]whenever he slept with his brother’s wife,
he spilled his semen on the ground
to keep from providing offspring for his brother.
10What he did was wicked in the LORD’s sight;
so the LORD put him to death also.[/size]
Am sure you are trying to be dishonest here and as usual laying up groundless accusations ... wink
Remember it was I, who first provided the Genesis 38:6-10 for you to visit for the exact details
and did so without complulsion or being under duress
so let me also zoom your gaze unto "whenever"
Notice, the chap, did this, not JUST once, he did it, more than once, and each time he ploughed the field, he pulled out.
so he wasnt snuffed on the first act, it was after the first.
He enjoyed the thrill a few more times before shown the exit

johnydon22:
Now what is this your talk of possible heart attack or fear. . .
Must you always assume up lies to defend the bible? cheesy
I can see you pretending not reading the preceding "He was taken out" before the light-hearted heart attack or whatnot
Must you always be this high strung over a light-heartedly made remark?
Must you always assume light-heartedly made remarks are lies to defend the bible? cheesy

We all are going to be TAKEN OUT at some point in time
Death is inevitable, and the way we go out irrelevant
Chill my friend
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die For His Sin Or Cluelessness? by MuttleyLaff:
Sirniyeh:
99% of the self-acclaimed Christians on this forum are baptised with PRIDE.
Dont subscribe that 99% of the self-acclaimed Christians on this forum are baptised with PRIDE
That is an exaggeration unless you have the statistics to back it up with

Sirniyeh:
It is only a clueless person that will reply a post with insult because that are empty in their brain to clarify issues.
Have you been personally insulted in the forum or on this thread

Sirniyeh:
Suppossing you go for an evangelism and an aetheist asks you such question, will you abuse or curse him? It is your responsibility to make him understand what he never did. A lot of Jehovah Witness members face severe challenges in the course of their evangelism, yet they will never resort to quarrel or fight.
The responsibility is to be a lover and not a fighter
Besides Matthew 15:26, Matthew 7:6, Proverbs 23:9 and Proverbs 26:4 are very instructional in matters of this sort

Sirniyeh:
The responses so far on this thread prove that the over-pompous Christians here are men and women with empty skull.
This is a figment of imagination
Actually they might be aligning their responses to what's in; Proverbs 26:4 - Do not answer a fool with his own stupidity, or you will be like him.

Note that using fool in that verse, is not to denigrate but meaning, not answer one, not wise in making right thinking or decisions

Sirniyeh:
Jesus himself was questioned.
That is true, and He is still available for questioning.
He still can be directly questioned or be questioned by proxy of the Holy Spirit

Sirniyeh:
And the same bible states that study to show yourself approved.
True, well, so a challenge it apparently is.
So the bible states that study to show yourself approved
but it certainly didnt state, study to run down or cast aspersions, as done on the original post


Sirniyeh:
Lack of sufficient knowledge is an avenue for devil to prevail over person.
Welldone, cant agree more with you on this.
Also anything that worths doing at all, like for example truly knowing about God,
then it is equally worths doing substantially well...!
if not, it is an avenue for devil to prevail over in that area
Christianity Etc › Re: Please How True Is This Pic? by MuttleyLaff: 12:39pm On May 04, 2015
johnydon22:
and so had to be killed right? wink
You rarely miss a chance of this sort to scoff and challenge wink
Know you havent grown dull.
Nor are your ears hard of hearing or you had your eyes closed when you read the response

He was taken out because of wickedness, just as his elder brother, earlier was, taken out for being wicked

Come to think of it, he likely had an heart attack, died of fright or got scared to death of being found out
Visit Genesis 38:6-10 for the exact details
Christianity Etc › Re: Please How True Is This Pic? by MuttleyLaff: 11:14am On May 04, 2015
Ugojames:
Just came across this pic pls how true is it?
Everything in the pic is true.
He however was not taken out directly because of the act
but for the selfish thought that he can get way with a pull out plan of "why buy a cow when you can get milk for free"
He was expected to buy the cow, not to milk it free and thereby plan to shy away from his responsibilities
Christianity Etc › Re: Can God Create A Mountain That God Can't Move? by MuttleyLaff: 11:05am On May 04, 2015
ihedinobi2:
I'll probably find the book when I find the time and see what it has to say.
https://s23.postimg.org/p10ajymcr/singlory.jpg
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die For His Sin Or Cluelessness? by MuttleyLaff: 10:56am On May 04, 2015
Sirniyeh:
Pls, we need those who understand Bible to shed light on this issue.
Without suggesting OP, people fumble understanding the Bible because they havent learned to be humble with the Bible

Sirniyeh:
Where is it written in the bible that Jesus will die at age of 33?
If the Bible is dug deep enough like somewhere in the OT,
there it will be found where it is prohesised written in the bible that Jesus will die at age of 33

Sirniyeh:
Where is it written in the bible before Jesus was born that He will die on the cross?
This is Bible 101 question

Sirniyeh:
Where is it written as prophecy that he will die for the sin of man kind?
Another Bible 101 question

Sirniyeh:
It's unfortunate that most obsessed christians will not want to dissect to know that which is the truth.
it's very conspicuous that Jesus died for his
1. Lukewarmness
2. Cluelessness
3. Over confidence
No controversy about that!
No controversy about someone showing off their clueless helmet here

Sirniyeh:
While on the Cross, jesus lamented, He screamed:
"GOD WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?"
That was when he realised his mistake. He entered a town and began preaching, claiming their is a Super King that is more powerful than King Herod. They sought for him. He had priviledge of escape because Peter and co were ready to protect him. That was where his mistake lied. He never knew he could be killed. He insinuated perhaps he could convince the king as well. But eventually he regretted his action.
To understand the "FORSAKEN" bit, we need to recognise or remember what happened after the original sin crept in
Think about Adam, what was the significant thing that happened to him after he accepted and ate the fruit

Please dust up a Bible and read Psalm 22 alongside Isaiah 53.

Sirniyeh:
Who can go to sambisa forest to preach to Shekau?
That's foolishness.
Foolishness exactly!
And considering the circumstance, not the wisest thing to do, at least not for now.
After the army have executed their campaign there then one go to sambisa forest to preach.

Matthew 10:16 - Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Sirniyeh:
He died for his mistake and not my sin
Make no mistake, He died for your sin and this missed-the-mark thread you posted or opened up here

mekonglobal:
I think a river dat one is aware of its depth, does not worth diving into esp if u are not gud a swimmer.
Even if you are aware of its depth, good swimmers who arent careful have been known to get pulled by the undercurrents

Sirniyeh:
Hun un un ORO AGBA!
With a response like the above OP has concurred that looking at the water from a safe distance
and with a life-jacket strapped on for good measure
is a wise and better option instead of diving in to see
Christianity Etc › Re: Can God Create A Mountain That God Can't Move? by MuttleyLaff: 10:02am On May 04, 2015
ihedinobi2:
Sin shall be a glory? That sounds very curious.
Perhaps the idea the title is meant to convey is that the existence of sin will end in glory.
That is the sentiment that I hold.
I know it is the sentiment you hold, which is why I brought up the book, could feel it all along in your posts
and it soon struck me that your sentiments are the same in the book I picked up in a flea market last week
I am still reading the book at any available window opportunity,
like picking it up to read when going to use the washroom etc
I dont want to quickly read, as I think if I rush it, I am likely to overlook some pearl truths or miss some gems in it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Christian Movement Christ Embassy Belongs? by MuttleyLaff:
deborah777:
Into what christian movement belongs christ embassy church? Anyone has an idea?
I ask this question for understanding more about that nigerian movement. I know that it began in some campus then in mean while rev anita decided to expand it and moved to UK and then in 2001 was started ror publishing.
But theologically into what movement it belongs? That i had wondered for two years as for personal research i first found out that it is not related with NAR movement as there is no specific evidences of the movement. So whats else?
I dont think you will get a satisfactory or convincing answer, as Christ Embassy Church has nothing official about what "christian movement" it is.
Important to be aware that, Christ Embassy Church cannot be pinned down mainly or solely to a particular "christian movement"

Christ Embassy Church cant be that easily categorised into a single "christian movement"

It is more a case of, who the cap fits, let them wear it
so, whatever Christ Embassy Church looks like, so it will be.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's safe to conclude, a duck, it must be then.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by MuttleyLaff:
deborah777:
Well i do not remember, it was long time ago.
It is OK, if you do not remember because it was a long time ago
Just wanted to have an idea of what exactly in Greek you were taught, and especially since you learned the Greek from a seminary
Please do not let your Greek talent lie fallow, because the phrase "a skill not used, is a skill lost", rings true.

deborah777:
What it teached to me was what i already said that in greek words can be different meanings
and in english it all depends on translator choice what he or she thinks is better word to express the greek meaning of the word
The bolded above, "all depends on translator choice what he or she thinks is better" which you shared is actually true in more ways than one, and so very interesting.

The translator's struggle with exact word translations is a well know thing everyone is aware of
and it is different to what my curiosity is mainly about.
I am, more curious, to know about OTHER things on and about Greek taught in the seminary.

Wanted to know whether in the seminary, you were taught that the words or wordings in ancient Greeks writings had no spaces between them, they initially did not have punctuations and were all, always in capital cases
Christianity Etc › Re: Can God Create A Mountain That God Can't Move? by MuttleyLaff: 1:18am On May 02, 2015
ihedinobi2:
That is explained by the concept of eternity. If life does not end here, then "here" is a journey to "somewhere".
In Christian tradition, we are looking forward to a world where humans do not misuse their free will.
And that world will come through the lessons we are learning today about the terrible results of misusing it
Kind of the sentiments in "Sin Shall Be A Glory" - As Revealed by Julian of Norwich
- a book I picked up in a flea market last weekend
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff:
Image123:
We need to first be clear on one thing.
Are we agreed that it is a command?
If you've agreed it is a command, I am ready to sail with you on it and thereby agree

Now, after agreeing with you that it is a command, here is where my inquisitiveness flares up
Is this "command", a situational or universal one?
Why the "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. I suffer not a woman to TEACH, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence"?
Was there anything prevailing that warranted Paul dishing out this course of words or action?
What other "command(s)" apart from this particular has Paul given?

Image123:
If not, why on earth or heaven do you think it is a discussion or Q&A session?
Where it is "If not" or it's "If so" and without bringing "earth or heaven", why not should it be a discussion or Q&A session?
There's nothing to fear in having a discussion or Q&A session except fearing that obscure details might get exposed

Matthew 10:26
Therefore fear them not. For nothing is covered that shall not be revealed: nor hid, that shall not be known.

Mark 4:22
For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.

Proverbs 10:9
Whoever walks in integrity walks securely, but whoever takes crooked paths will be found out.
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff: 12:24am On May 02, 2015
Image123:
Read below.

There was no contradiction here, it is simply a matter of context. Its a long chapter of about 40 verses. The earlier part had been clear about prophesying and even made allusion to keeping silence.
1Co 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

Of course, keeping silence there is not about being dumb throughout church service but self control/temperance. One may have tongues and yet keep silent. In the latter part of the chapter, the passage talks about women keeping silent instead of teaching in the capacity of a leader or pastor over the men. It is not a contradiction by any means. One talks of prophesying, another of speaking in tongues, another of teaching. These are three different things. There are many activities in church like praying, singing, testimonies, report etc. CONTEXT.

CONTEXT is different. Prophecy is different from teaching or directing in the capacity of a shepherd or pastor. The establishment, corroboration and interpretation is clearer looking at Timothy.
1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to TEACH, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

The issue/context here is TEACHING, not prophesy, not prayer, not singing, not even tongues.

Yes, Paul wrote them after a particular letter from them, but you cannot just jump from chapter 7 to chapter 14 to say that Paul was interacting with some invisible letter. Where else is that interaction inbetween? Do we just make up interactions as we feel like?
Where is this interaction in chapter 13 for instance or chapter 10? Who determines what is a question and what is an answer from Paul when the text doesn't say so?

1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

These are not any interaction but visibly and clearly commands. You may disagree with these commands as opinions or bigoted or sexist or not spiritual or whatever. But don't insult us by telling us that they are quotes from another letter. The pronouns are very clear and straight. If they are from another letter, they should read as follows or similar.
Let our women keep silence in our churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [s]they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. [/s]

And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in our church.

These are clear commands and the next verses says so.
1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

In other words, if you do not acknowledge that they are commandments of the Lord, you are either not a prophet or spiritual or not thinking well(according to verse 37). Twisting a straight forward command into a question that it is not is not acceptable. If you say you do not understand this part of the Bible or do not agree with this part, fine and better. But telling us that it is a question and answer session, you would do well to show more proof.
Is this "command" a situational or universal one?
Why the "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. I suffer not a woman to TEACH, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence"?
Was there anything prevailing that warranted Paul dishing out this course of action?
What other "command(s)" apart from this particular has Paul given?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can God Create A Mountain That God Can't Move? by MuttleyLaff: 10:01pm On May 01, 2015
^^^
Original poster is AWOL "absent without leave"
deactivated account so tiring must be in fad
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff:
malvisguy212:
ok, I want to read your explanation,
did Paul really say woman are not to preach or say a word in the church?
I wouldnt possibly be able to satisfactorily comment on that, until I know which church you are referring to.
Is this about women are not to preach or say a word in the church in Corinth or church universally?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by MuttleyLaff:
deborah777:
Hi Combs i studied the 1st greek language five years ago in seminary
and i have not practized it much recently.
right now i can say only that in greek the words are very meaningful ie they can have different meanings.
What was in the syllabus?
How beneficial has your exposure to Greek been to you.
Are you able to share a few examples of the benefits gained from learning Greek language?
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff: 9:07pm On May 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
I don't want to argue that why I ignore most of your first post.
What is the bolded above meant to mean
You air your thoughts, others independently do likewise.
Is that arguing?
Have better things to do than lollygagging or argue

malvisguy212:
400 years ago women are to stay home, the Jewish culture was dominated by men,
Women could not play a significant role in the synagogue.
Read this link and know more about women in ancient isreal
http://www.bible-history.com/court-of-women/women.html Paul was aware of there culture.
MuttleyLaff:
You better start thinking so now
and imbibe Romans 12:2, to be transformed by the renewing of your mind

We are now living in a rapidly changing what used to be an exclusive man's world
but thank you God, this man's world, wouldn't be nothing, it'll be nothing without a woman
so in essence, they cant and shouldnt have in the first place, nursed the idea of promoting sexism
or reinforce the status quo underhandedly, the manner this is or was done
After I had posted the above, I cant seem to understand why you're holding out a link about Jewish culture dominated by men to me.

Thought you were on about the women of Corinth, the reality of ancient Greek culture and hetaira, but you obviously aren't
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff: 7:42pm On May 01, 2015
Scholar8200:
I like the reference to Acts 18:24-26, it further accentuates my penultimate post.
A sexist translator will not mention Priscilla, yet her name is mentioned almost if not all times her husband's name was mentioned!
Brother, you are on a long thing, what business has translation got to do with mention?

Scholar8200:
Also note that the context of the couple's activity was in their home,
Where else did you expect the activity to have been held?
You do agree, that the early believers, ekklessia, the called outs, activities has always been in their homes. Dont you?

Ekklessia "called out", in the beginning, gathered together, for a common purpose, in one place, their homes and not in edifices

Ekklessia, OK using the modern time parlance, CHURCH, are the "called out" gathered to be set up, be joined up, or be fitted together
and traditionally they met in their homes

Scholar8200:
not the assembly of believers.
I almost laughed at the above
If not an assembly of believers, what are you calling the coming together of Apollo, Priscilla and Aquila, her husband?
An assembly of heathens?
Apollo, Priscilla and Aquila, her husband coming together is an assembly of believers brother, dont get it twisted.

Some of your remarks like those above, unfortunately, are ample justification for me querying your definition of "church"
and your understanding of what "church" is actually all about
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff: 7:14pm On May 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
Paul was aware of there culture about women and he respect it.
But in Corinthians the context was about the prophecy and toung.
Women can have this gift and when they do, they should not assume authority over the men
.
That was the message in Corinthians
With a clearer head I have just revisited the above post,
and would love to hear where were you going with the "culture" thing.
What culture are you talking about or referring to?
Curious to know if yours aligns with mine.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by MuttleyLaff: 6:31am On May 01, 2015
deborah777:
Thank you. . First KJV bible for me whom english is not mother language is bit complicated

with its ancient english.

But as i have learned first century greek in seminary some years ago i checked it out from greek
and for tongues is used glossa and for speaking kjv divers used genos and for intepretation hermeneia which is interesting

itself.and the phenomen of speaking in tongues is called in science i think glossalia.
It is not needed intepretation always.
It's good to know we have a confessed Greek aficionado in the building
Sorry for digressing a bit
but this temporary departure might be a blessing in disguise that could slay the proverbial dragon and a thousand or more demons
It can put a lot of believers to shame for their hypocrisies, obstinacies, legalisms, religion practices and rigid attitudes.

deborah777, what is there to know about GREEK, what can you share with us about Greek
How did the ancient Greek write texts
What should we be aware of concerning these text written, ancient or otherwise
However you're led in the spirit, please give us brief explanations on how Greek translating or translation evolved
if you dont mind, please share your knowledge so we all can learn from it and know how to have an edge too.
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff: 8:11pm On Apr 30, 2015
Scholar8200:
Thanks for that.
No problem brother,
now if you want: "Reading the web link and this post above further accentuates my post to Scholar8200"
to flush directly under "Muttley" just put the mouse before the R in "Reading the web link...."
and then backspace 2 or 3 times
You obviously have to be in Modify mode to carry the above out

Scholar8200:
Look forward to your responses, do keep them scriptural.
Not sure what you mean by "do keep it scriptural"
as all I've so far typed is scriptural, through and through
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff: 7:54pm On Apr 30, 2015
^^^
grin grin grin OK
Scholar8200, correct https://www.nairaland.com/2281187/truth-did-paul-say-women#33285293 as I've suggested and we will move on
Forget sexism, forget whether women were educated or not
let's for now just stick to whether you are saying Paul said women should remain quiet in church?
As I said, I have replies done up already to all your posts
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff: 7:33pm On Apr 30, 2015
Scholar8200, add ] immediately after 1, in [quote author=MuttleyLaff post=33284431, so you can quote me properly

I have responses to all your posts prepped up here, I'll upload them as soon as you have inserted that missing closing bracket sign
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff:
elveco:
The Church is the body of Christ. 1Cor. 1:2, Rom. 12-5-8
What is this? Are you having a laugh at my expense?

What's the meaning of this your "The Church is the body of Christ. 1 Cor. 1:2, Rom. 12-5-8"?
Are you kidding me? Is this meant to be a one-liner?
Is that how you explain your understanding or give a definition to a kafir?
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff: 7:23pm On Apr 30, 2015
malvisguy212:
yes, believers don't practice religion but believer should be tolerance in other people culture
Some believers if not most actually practice religion
Anyway, it speaks volumes that God is longsuffering in silence, suffering and tolerating other other peoples culture or religion

malvisguy212:
that was what Paul did
What is it Paul did and how did he do what he did?

malvisguy212:
Paul was aware of there culture about women and he respect it.
But in Corinthians the context was about the prophecy and toung.
Women can have this gift and when they do, they should not assume authority over the men. That was the message in Corinthians.
Paul was aware some were trying to maintain the status quo
and were using the Talmud etc as back up for justifying their demands

Paul basically read them the riot act after that with both 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 and 1 Timothy 2:11-12

malvisguy212:
I haven't read your explanation, I will do later.
In your own time, not that I made that much of an explanation yet
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff: 6:12pm On Apr 30, 2015
elveco:
PLEASE BRETHREN FOLLOW THIS LINK AND PATIENTLY GO THROUGH THE ARTICLE,
I BELIEVE IT WILL BE HELPFUL. THANKS:
http://www.ntrf.org/articles/article_detail.php?PRKey=16
I've just read the link too.
but I'll be honest, I didnt want to or wasnt going to read the link until malvisguy212 came back saying he's read it
Nothing personal, just that, I dont hastily click on web links I cant vouch for
Anyway, it was a torturous read, it literally was ripping my heart out.
I read all and found the entire content in the link, from beginning to end, dismaying and disconcerting

malvisguy212:
I read the link but not all, there are many points the writer of the blog missed, see, religion is like a CULTURE, religion cannot provide all the truth for you.
Believers dont practice religion

malvisguy212:
Paul is a very wise teacher. if you examine history, women were culturally not educated.
I agree Paul is a wise teacher but what is the point of the bolded statement

malvisguy212:
It was considered the domain of men.
Even in our Western societies, 100 years ago the role of women was to stay at home, raise the family and support the husband who worked. Things have drastically changed today.
Now Paul was thoroughly saturated with the culture of his day. He could not be.
Yet, he seems quite aware of it when he talks in the Corinthians and Timothy passage that you quoted, stating this as his personal beliefs and providing his own justification.
Reading the web link and this post above further accentuates my post to Scholar8200
about us are now living in a rapidly changing what-used-to-be an exclusive man's world
but thank you God, this man's world, wouldn't be nothing, it'll be nothing without a woman
Christianity Etc › Re: TRUTH: Did Paul Say Women Should Remain Quiet In Church?? by MuttleyLaff: 5:09pm On Apr 30, 2015
Scholar8200, before I submit my responses to your two last posts, lets be clear where and how you stand on this subjerct matter
What is your stance, put your neck on the line.
Are you saying Paul said women should remain quiet in church
?
and like I earlier desired to know about elveco,
I wonder too, what your definition of church is
and curious to know your understanding of what church is or what church is about.

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