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Jeromejnr:
Madam abeg which church do you go to? I would love to know.

From what I read you totally confused the scriptures.

Even a scripture such as John 3:16 falsifies your claims. And not to mention others.

An2elect2:
Okay.
But i think when it comes to the truth we should drop our opinions/beliefs/ideologies or whatever for the word of God.

An2elect2:
Don't you think so too?

An2elect2:
I read through what you typed, and there are contradictions here and there and of course your personal opinion and what you've been taught.

An2elect2:
I'll prefer you cite bible passages ( rightly dividing the word) to back every point you raised to counter my post.

An2elect2:
Thank you.

An2elect2:
at embolden good.
Including the sin of unbelief/acceptance/rejection. Christ died for this one too!

An2elect2:
Okay. I get where you are coming from. But hold on are you seriously trying to convince me with just two verses that seem to agree with your view against the multitude of scriptures that teach particular redemption? LOL you no try o.

Well i must admit that this particular verse(2) had put me in a dilemma when i was still struggling with the teaching of limited atonement.

A glance at this verse(2) from a universal point of view will mean Christ died for all with no exception. However a look at this verse from the biblical perspective can only mean Christ died for all without distinction.

Before i explain what that means, it is important that we know that Christ died for ALL "our" sins including the sin of unbelief/acceptance of him as the saviour and Son of God.

1John 3:23 "And this is his commandment that we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ."

Sin is transgression of the law/commandment. This verse teaches that unbelief is a sin. If we do not obey this commandment we have sinned. Now was this sin included in the sins that Christ died for? yes. That is why salvation is of the LORD Jonah 2:9 It does not lie in our acceptance of God but in God's sovereign election.

Was everybody's sin atoned for?
If yes, everyman without exception must be saved for Christ has paid for their sins including the sin of "rejection of him" or unbelief but you will agree with me that that is not the case. Not everyone gets saved.

An2elect2:
Isaiah 53:5" But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities, the chastisement of our peace was upon him and with his stripes we are healed."

Look at the latter part of vs 8" for he was cut out of the land of the living, for the transgression of my people was he stricken"

vs 12 " He shall see of the travail of his soul and shall be satisfied, by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many, for he shall bear their iniquities"

Who did Christ go through all these for? if everybody then it was a failed redemption and of no use to the multitude that flood hell.

An2elect2:
If healing of the soul can only come through Christ's suffering and death as seen above and every man's redemption was obtained then every soul must be saved without a single one lost.

An2elect2:
John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd giveth his life for his sheep"

His sheep. Did you see that? is everybody his sheep?

John 10:26 " But you believe not because you are not of my sheep, as i said unto you."

Yadoctora:
Tinubu is my man of the year.
But what does jagaban mean?

aresa:
Tinubu in the background is priceless...

Sai BAT..

johnydon22:
Op see it like this:
Yahweh condemn you even though u were not born yet because some mythical adam and his rib turned wif eve ate an apple because a talking snake told them to.

Then instead of just forgive them he didn't, he sent his son to be murdered and tortured sacrificed to him so he can forgive you a sin that you have not committed yet knowing that you were not born yet but will still throw you in hell if you do..
makes perfect sense

Macelliot:
Why running up and down on a deadly mission....
Answer my question...
You can deny the existence of your Mom to prove your atheism.....
Fake atheist...

johnydon22:
another emotional yarn from a dumbass... Can you show me where their was a mistake from my post

johnydon22:
What exactly is your problem? why the constant ad hominems without making sense...

Honestly you will make me to stop paying any mind to ur posts because you dont make sense just attack the person... Very childish..

Hiswordxray:
Yes that is what we want.
Stop responding to our post and leave religion section or stay and get converted

Afrobaseyemi:
How true is it that Jesus died for my sins?

Afrobaseyemi:
I'm a new convert, but right now I'm finding it difficult that somebody could die for my sins...hard to believe.

Afrobaseyemi:
You can be of help if you know of any convincing answers

silverprince413:
If you see adam and eve today, what will you say or do to to them?

PastorOluT:
I am just thinking how the answers u received from this thread will be of benefit?

Gombs:
I'm glad viewers of this thread can make a good judgement of events here.

Gombs:
You never can tell... Just like how we busted WinsomeX aka Drummaboy.

Actually, one does not need special skills to know these. I've been discussing with some folks here for like 4 years, day in, day out. It is normal for me to detect a red flag in communication. If you guys would love changing moniker, no problem with me... Your messages don't change, nor write pattern.

If you are him, fine, if not fine...its not my problem. I just stated the obvious.

Gombs:
Can we stop derailing now?

Joagbaje:
That's your interpretation. If you want explanation "simply ask.com"

Gombs:
Well this is a slam dunk in basket ball.
After long evasion, and hankey-pankey games, you still came to the point I have been asking about. For that, I thank you.

So, then, like I asked, if Jesus was stoned to death, what what have been the symbol of Christianity? Stones or ...

Hilarious.

Gombs:
Your writing pattern is same as Goshen's... Even the way he quotes scriptures.
I don't want to believe what I'm thinking o

Gombs:
Hush son!

Gombs:
So, if a criminal is executed by electric chair, is that said to be murder?
So the cross is now a crime scene?...does executing a criminal via an electric chair makes the electric chair a 'murder weapon'?

Think son.. Think.

Gombs:
If I slam a hammer on guys head, would it be wrong to call the hammer a killing tool? i.e. a murder weapon?

Wrong. Jesus was a sacrifice. He gave Himself up. He commanded His death Himself.

The Cross was not a crime scene...
It was the sacrifice 'platform' Jesus had to endure, for the glory ahead of Him. Jesus was NOT murdered.
Jeez...study son! It's not illegal

Gombs:
John 10:8 New Living Translation
"No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily.
For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again.
For this is what my Father has commanded."

It's either you're right and Jesus was exaggerating, or you're sorely wrong. I choose the latter.

Gombs:
Be ni

Gombs:
The cross was where Jesus paid the price for all mankind. But it didn't end there...
He resurrected, and hence became the first begotten from the dead, because so many others were coming after Him is me, you or any New creation. His resurrection was what brought forh Christianity.

Jesus' ressurection is Christianity, he died was wonderful, for it paid the price...

Gombs:
But even more glorious was His ressurection, He produced a lot more Jesuses

Gombs:
What about the ressurection?

Gombs:
I am in no way against the cross, for if Jesus was not dead, there wouldn't have been a ressurection. My issue is, Christianity came by the ressurection, and not on the cross. If Jesus had not risen, there would not have been Christianity, for no other religion has this, the ressurection power Christ gave us.

Gombs:
The cross is not a symbol of Christianity.

Gombs:
What if Jesus was sentenced to death by hanging, and later, He did ressurect?
What would have been the symbol of Christianity? Ropes or trees?

Gombs:
What brought you Justification before God? His death or ressurection?

Gombs:
NB:Crucifixion was a method of execution to the Romans.
It was a disgraceful method of execution.

Gombs:
Jesus could have been beheaded, what then would have been your symbol of Christianity?

Joagbaje:
We never said if a christian does something wrong it's not a sin. So I'm amazed at how you came to that. Conclusion. What we believe which I have always posted on this forum is that an umbeliever cannot commit sin. He is sin personified
It's only a christian who can commit a sin. There is sin against the brethren and sin against God.
It's a Christian that can RECIEVE forgiveness.
But here you give impression as though we teach people to do wrong and it' won't be a sin.

Joagbaje:
Your assumptions are wrong brother.
And it's a sin to call Gods people a name God hasn't called them

trustman:
Having said that I'd like you to answer this question:
why has the sign of the cross been a major symbol in Christianity?
One more thing - which comes first, justification or being a new creation?

Gombs:
Really? Is it by pictorial signs? What of the purported picture of Christ?
Can you show me where in the scriptures it was remotely suggested that the sign of the cross is a major symbol of Christianity?
So, if Jesus was shot or stabbed or beheaded, a pistol or dagger will be a major symbol of Christianity?
Let's not derail...open a thread, I'd be glad to tutor you on this.

victorels:
I saw this. Keeping watch still.

victorels:
On the right side of the picture, A military commander with hand gloves on should certainly mean buhari. The hand without a body with two fingers pointing upward should be th swaggerlicious vice president.
notice the terrorist behind the general.

that means those on the left where Goodluck is should be careful.

JustCare:
That's their own business. you will agree with me that some issues are so sensitive and should not even be joked with... anyways that is already a past issue... every reasonable lagosian has decided, whether before or after the incident.
Our last minute discussion can't even change their mindset.
Anyone affected by the incident has already perceived it in any of the two directions.

Hopefully like I said earlier, it will be fine with we Lagosians if it turns out either ways.
FYI banking on any administration to deliver based on this party thingy might appear more like a gamble.

We can only vote and hope for the best.

udatso:
bingbagbo went as far as saying jesus Christ is even the father in this thread
www.nairaland.com/2233993/undeniable-biblical-proof-jesus-same

bingbagbo:
greatest mystery ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JustCare:
That's the Oba's business... things of this nature don't give me concern.
Issues of this nature revolves around the factors that I stated earlier.
They're omens that have come to stay until great steps are taken.

oh...I understand where you were heading for...
but I hope things will sought itself out if it gets to that partisan thingy

JustCare:
Lagos is on state out of the whole. I'm talking of Nigeria as a whole. If Lagos gets better while other lag behind it won't be fine.

JustCare:
We've got to deliver ourselves...God won't come down to do that.

JustCare:
Alright bro

But the issue that should be on ground now is the way forward.

And Yankees plans gotta fell them soon

ydass:
Hello everyone, I hope I will be able find a perfect meaning to this signs.

A friend of mine gave me this cups with the signs on them.
I am aware she paid $200 for this sign to be inscribed on this cups
https://s17.postimg.org/omvxkycjv/mug.jpg

ebonflex:
Celtic cross (obviously old-religion occult)
and not sure of the one to the right, but simply looking at it makes me uneasy.

I feel like it may have something to do with "currency of death".

ebonflex:
Then discard them all.
Those sigils usually have more than meets the eye accompanying them.
You've had "infiltration agents" in your home all this while.

ebonflex:
Who is this friend?

ydass:
She is a business partner who had shown romantic interest in me but turned her down.
I became suspicious of those signs when she asked me if would like to be a member of the freemason,
she drove me to place in philadelphia where they hold meetings but I refused to go into the building and asked her to take me home.
Since then I have gone back to check and realised all the gifts she had ever gave me have one sign or the other.

ebonflex:
Seems like a lot of trouble to brand occultic signs on glass cups and give you.
Be careful. Ignorance is no excuse.

JustCare:
Don't like discussing Nigerian politics anyway...it's a politics
characterised with primitiveness, poverty, tribalism and
illiteracy.

yes...the above is what I stated in a place i mentioned you here.

well, if you claim to be a Nigerian and that you really observed, I know you won't be anywhere in the above categories
Sarcasm? Yes... was only doubting your identity

JustCare:
maybe you were one of the forerunners of such information which its resultant effect was extremely negligible.

Like I said before... we Nigerians knows what happened and how it happened...it's our headache not necessarily yours.

so I still stand my ground on the things I said in my previous post pertaining to the mentality of the voting masses.

You're always welcomed as an observer, perhaps from a distance

JustCare:
Feelers indeed... it never happen bro.
The question of you being in Nigeria have actually made me to know that you were not any close to the election places.
Anyway, I'm not insinuating any rigging brouhaha, though that possibility can't be ruled out in Nigeria now... well, I won't over flog the issue.
The Nigerian people voted bro...and we know better how it went.
Don't like discussing Nigerian politics anyway...it's a politics characterised with primitiveness, poverty, tribalism and illiteracy.
#lovemycountrythough

JustCare:
Have gone through it

JustCare:
and can still say that the above never changed the mine of Nigerians few weeks to the election.

JustCare:
hope you're in Nigeria.

JustCare:
Jonathan was exasperated and replied with "I don’t need
your support, Jonathan tells Economist magazine"


according to you, the above statement nailed GEJ

JustCare:
SO they actually came down here and voted out GEJ?

AbuMikey:
Harsh, but its the truth!
There was not need doing a copy job from VigilantCitizen and pasting on Nairaland.
Sukkot's thread was enough!

AbuMikey:
Ok.

Those arrows You see, with 11.5 and 11.3 ascribed on it, points to somewhere in Nigeria, not just 'somewhere' in Nigeria, but Bornu state!!

JustCare:
Neither the West nor the economist ousted GEJ. note