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Nero2424:
Well, looking at the prototype you posted here it still look beautiful, my initial thought in your previous post was some very low quality house on a 60M land.

Yes it was!
You’d hardly notice what was used to roof the building.

successmatters:
There are so many, even yours that seem to be egging him on to damn the consequences, I think you are the person who said he doesn't patronize them and that you buy from big stores? Those are very wrong posts.

#MeToo

Buying from big stores didn’t stop me from using

- Nnamdi to do all my roofing since 2011
- Chibuike to do all the ornamental designs.
- Segbeyon and Paul to handle my carpentary works.

I was only trying to minimize my risk as a contractor hence the reason I am buying direct from manufacturers. I have no issues buying from small shops if they can keep to standard.

zuraking:
all these date never reach 10month.....not an excuse why you should fall in the Kobo Kobo house crew. go and SIN no more

The one that shocked me ehn... let me not talk! The bros is right here on NL too!

I was like I still held meeting here in April na before lockdown.

Some pipu dey poun poun house crew and they’re taking lecture from kobo kobo class

successmatters:
This one's the first.

Thanks.

Pls share others too.

successmatters:
Peace. A simple apology for my people. I will pause for some time to see if I get the respect back.

Pls kindly quote the post which spark this outrage.

I’m sorry to bother you pls!

successmatters:
He's also not far from tribalism. He is a hater.

What do you want?

davodyguy:
When it comes to materials management, they're not expert in that.

Once they see those white POP cement bags available on site, they get the courage to work and come back to you when they're low on supply.

From the images you posted, two things I noticed.

1. It's a remodeling, hence they're being careful not to mess up the walls/floors

2. They're not use full scaffolding as platform to get to the ceiling.

These two factors are responsible for the neatness of your job as shown in the image

You’re not far from the truth!

Infinity988:
Pls sir,is it okay to mix cement with plaster sand for wall tiles cos it's only pure cement that I have knowledge about.

It’s fine bro but you’d be better of with supafix (Tiles Adhesive)

Finite vs Infinite Mentality: Microsoft vs Apple


Simon Sinek was invited to speak at Microsoft and Apple education summits.

Microsoft had just launched the Zune portable media player in 2006, few years after Apple launched the iPod in 2001. Zune was the most elegant piece of technology that was built with an amazing interface, easy to use, design was spectacular; just a top notch product. At the education summit at Microsoft, 70% of the executives spent most of their presentation talking about how they wanted to beat Apple and be number one. At the end of Microsoft summit, they gave Simon a new Zune, as a gift.

At the Apple education summit, 100% of the executives spent all of their presentation sharing about the vision of Apple and where they want to get to, with no mention of any competition. After the summit was done, Simon was sharing a cab with one of the top executives at Apple - he was the #12 employee at Apple. Simon liked to stir pots, so he turned to him, and said - "You know, Microsoft gave me a new Zune. And it is so much better than your iPod touch". The Apple executive turned to him and said, "I have no doubt". And that was it. Conversation over.

One was playing a finite game - a game where there is one winner. The other was playing an infinite game, where the objective is to keep playing.

One was obsessed with vision and the other was obsessed with beating the opposition. Companies who react strategically to competition, sacrificing on working on their vision, don't realize their highest potential.

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A tribal war (infinite game) on a platform where people are focused on achieving their lifelong dreams (building a house, building wealth etc) wont realize it’s potential.

gurunlocker:
Seems the maturity of this section is different from politics section.... Must be a bad day for trolls

When you put finite players against infinite players, the finite players will always face problems. While the finite player is targeting a win, the goal of the infinite player is to perpetuate the game till a finite player lose the will power to continue.

It’s just common sense!

The more we look at our world through this lens of finite and infinite games, the more we see infinite games all around us, games with no finish lines and no winners.

The only thing the matured ones can do is to teach the immatured ones what they don’t know.

An infinite player understands that “When you play with a finite mindset in an infinite game, the odds increase that you will find yourself in a quagmire, racing through the will and resources you need to keep playing.”

davodyguy:
Guys
While we work and go about, let's not forget COVID-19 is real.

The attached image is for an uncle we lost to COVID-19 on Christmas Eve.

I've cried all night since then, cause it's a painful loss.

God that made us to witness January 1st 2020 will keep us alive to see many more years.

RIP uncle BJ

Amen to your prayers bro!

I know him at City of David. His death came as a rude shock to all.

2020 is not over yet. I pray God keep us save.
May the good Lord grant you the fortitude to bear the irreparable loss.

You want to know how to WIN WAR without fighting? Know PEACE.



Evidence demonstrates that more wars end through negotiated peace agreements than through one side 'winning'.

If you want to know more, watch “Infinite Games” by Simon Sinek.

In infinite games, like business or politics or life itself, the players come and go, the rules are changeable and there is no defined end point.

Samsung vs Apple
Toyota vs Tesla
Stone-coated roof vs Cameroon Zinc

There is no such thing as “winning business” or “winning life,” for example, there is only ahead and behind. - Simon Sinek

So I laugh when I see people playing a finite game where there’s no such thing as winning.

Read more about American and the North Vietnamese war to know why America lost the war despite winning most of the battle.

zuraking:
oga mi, let's not be missing things up

If you started this your house April and you are doing finishing already by now that means your house no be Kobo Kobo house.

We the Kobo Kobo house owners start foundation and rest for 8months
set another block, rest for 5 month
finish lintel then rest for 1year
roof the house after 1 year rest for another 7 month
Start plastering and other finishing and house will be completed after 4-5 years. That's Kobo Kobo house

It's different from money that's on ground that you just go and pull out for the project non-stop .

We the poor Kobo house owners frawns at this your post. We know ourselves make you rich people no come dey take our place

If Dangote is broke, he’s still far richer than my generation.

Wahala for who no sabi hin level!

davodyguy:
n3xt, can you assist him with Lafarge?

I can get any quantity in Sagamu at #3100 but not outside that jurisdiction.

davodyguy:
One of the many reasons not to attempt tiling before wall Screed or POP ceiling design is the amount of debris and stains to be generated

One of the reasons I chose plasterboard/cement board over pop boards. And wallpapers over wall screed in certain areas.

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The floor tiles in the project below has been installed even before the POP and the wall finishing. It was actually a remodeling job.

Because we are using plasterboards, we were able to minimize the amount of debris generated.

Those pop guys sabi waste materials!

omanzo02:
But a typical Nigerian electrician will say "oga good cable arrangements no matter ooo".
Quality delivery is a habit!

Paying attention to detail is an obvious skill to highlight when you are looking to engage any artisan.

I got my first job about 3 decades ago through applying this skill. I wasn’t even qualified for the job but I remembered that my boss told me he chose to employ me because I paid attention to everything that was wrong in the room and ensured they were put right before attending to what the interviewer asked me.

Any artisan who maintain attention to detail on every project will be a lot more efficient than the one who does not - thus increasing productivity, reducing the chances of errors and making your job easier in the long run.

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The guy who became my lead bricklayer did this job for me in 2012 (pic 1) and I asked if we can work together.

It’s one thing to buy good materials. It’s another thing to have good guys who can put it to good use.

davodyguy:
Thickness? In all honesty I don't know.

But the lafarge cement is used along with plaster sand for the walls, then for the ground, they're mixing sharp sand with cement.

Do you have any contrary view?

That’s fine. You’re doing well!

Happy Building.

davodyguy:
Great.

They've done about 51sqm now with 9 bags.

What we're using is the Lafarge supaset.

Including sand or pure cement?

What’s the thickness?

The art of being wise is knowing what to overlook.




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RIP to the changemaker, Ubong King.

As a friend and a great Neighbour, a great legacy you left behind.

The world will miss you UK!

davodyguy:
n3xt

Take a look.

On the average, like how many bags of cement can be used per sqm for tiling.

Once you respond, I'll tell you what my Beninois tilers have used for this bathroom wall

1 bag should do 4sqm

topsy23:
I have 2 technicians specially trained for this final sub-circuit termination.. If they don't do it to my satisfaction they will re-do it again ... When it comes to finishing I don't like with.

Not all my workers handle termination

You can go through our thread for more pictures

https://www.nairaland.com/2668061/abb-distribution-board-schneider-distribution/7

Please don’t hesitate to drop nice installation pics like this for us here once a while.

I hardly visit other threads these days.

megacontrol:
Chief,

Ignorance is never an excuse.

We the so-called "kobo kobo" project owners are the same ones spending multi millions on just one aspect of finishing, most times not getting good value for money.

That term seem to have morphed and often misconstrued to denote so many misconceptions.

Building small small or "kobo-kobo" doesn't/shouldn't mean;
- not performing due diligence
- buying fake/inferior products in the name of na kobo-kobo project, then expecting such product to perform magic
- adopting substandard building methods
- compromising safety
- not paying for services rendered
- feigning ignorance

BTW, does it still count as kobo-kobo if I am capable to walk into the market to purchase materials worth multi-millions in one go?

Me I have taken note of the options to source genuine products directly from manufacturer.

My Ijebu in-laws no dey waste time.

Even when those companies tell me I can’t order directly, I ask them to recommend someone who can give me a very good deal.

topsy23:
Thanks boss

Interestingly, it’s simple stuffs like this that turn me on. I pay premium for jobs like this.

It shows how much you pay attention to detail. That alone deserves some credit.

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Pics - Electrical wiring/installations from inside life

topsy23:
That means 6-ways Distribution board is okay for your project.

Reason for specifying 6-ways distribution board for you is that spares will be available for additional AC's in future.

Good job! I love the cable arrangement.

I’m a networking guru and did structured cabling of some of the best hotels and malls in Lagos. So I can tell a good job when I see one.


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The cable arrangement is good I saved it twice for my “Lasisi and Rosco” electrical contractors.
I’ve never been able to find a good replacement for my late electrical installer.

Drversatile:
Is it with the furnishings or just structure. Because I'm really interested. Thanks for your feedback.

Just a finished structure. No furnishing.

gurunlocker:
Some don't understand being too careful is dangerous as well.... Some of these guys sell recoil wire and will use Coleman nylon to pack it.

What happen to obtaining quote direct from Coleman’s website?

Nero2424:
Are you able to find out why he chooses to use Nigerite on a 60M land? Not making any sense to me. People have preferences but this one am finding difficult to believe.

- Superior Insulation
- Better sound absorption (you’ll have to do over 1mm gauge of aluminum or install fiberglass insulation to match this).
- Strength of concrete
- Fire resistant

One of the major drawback of flat roofs in contemporary builds is insulation (heat or sound).

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You don’t have to believe. You just need to ask for the address. It’s adjacent COWLSO building in Lekki Scheme II, Lagos.

davodyguy:
I was reading till I saw the part that it's a Chinese company.

[s]The thing for me is that some of these items from China are cheaper buying from Alibaba/Ali Express with same 'quality'[/s]

[s]Close to 90% of items imported into Nigeria are from China, including the almighty Turkey Doors.l, but quality differs.[/s]

When I saw an invoice and bill of lading of one major importer that branded his bathroom items in his name which flood the market, I begin to wonder.

All his jacuzzi, shower cubicle are from China and they're branded in his name, with made in UK on it.

All na packaging.

The attached image is from Aliexpress. That Garden light can be ordered including shipping for a price lesser than ₦5000 from China

How much is it when buying from Nigeria?

Hehe!!

It’s also much lesser than N5,000 when you buy from here and you’ll receive your order same day - not 6 weeks or 3 months after.

I never had to comb the whole of Lagos looking for what’s not lost. I only send my Uber driver to the company and they gave him my good.

That’s the big difference here bro!

I see my stuff, pay, obtain my warranty certificate and move. Shikena!


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You’re buying a product you’ve not seen from a seller you’ve not met and you think it’s cheaper than the ones you can see physically and obtain parts+labour warranty. What about the associated risks?

I no get una mind o!

Commonsense101:
Scrap the licensed by SON and FG talk. means nothing.

It's not about setting up shop in Nigeria, the question is do you deliver quality?
The same backyard manufacturers who produce the shitty qualities we castigate and hate so much can setup shop real easy and brand it made in Nigeria. Yes it's made in Nigeria, but what are you making ? Just saying.

Not to knock them or anything , but Looked them up and doesn't seem to be that much of a "standard manufacturing " going on. Again, just saying

In Nigeria, there’s always a problem for every solution.

Well it’s not my shop and it met my need.

If I bought over 100 pcs of light locally manufactured/assembled or whatever it is, in Nigeria and none has packed up in 2 years, I think I’m ok.

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The company making these shutters is in one local environment in Sagamu, Ogun State.

I know a lot of people have been deceived that it was imported

kopell:
Amazing, sometimes when I see people posting products that are fully manufactured here in Nigeria and printed made in UK, China, Dubai, US, etc., I laugh. Let me give you an example, the last time I posted that p.o.p is made in Yobe state, I knew many people would not believe it. Even as we speak there are companies producing them in Ibgesa Ogun State. Other products I know is commonly made in Nigeria is all those Pvc pipes. Label it whatever you want to, 90% are made in Nigeria between two states, Delta and Edo. So with many other products that's labeled made oversees. I don't know why our people will not patronize our locally made products not until it's labeled from somewhere else. Even those electric meters are made in Ogun State.

Even our almighty Wichtech is now produced locally in Nigeria.

Meter - Beside Nasfat, Lagos/Ibadan expressway.

I’m sure a lot of people don’t know that most of the Dangote trucks are locally assembled. A lot of these industries are on Lagos/Ibadan expressway.

kopell:
Thank you. This is why we need one another imagine, that's my neighborhood for over 40 years. I don't know any thing like, light company exit in my neighborhood. Thanks for sharing, another lesson learned.

Fully licensed by FG and SON.

They do custom lights too. I was particularly intrigued that I can take my faulty lights back to the company and it’ll be fixed for me at very shikini money.

I returned 14 lights that were damaged when we had electrical surge and they fixed them instantly.