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EgunMogaji2:
Trust me bestest buddy I don't use the Chinese for any sort of quality measurements

Your concrete mixer drum is made of PVC (surely you weren't hoping to shock me with that were you Brabus?)

Lots of things are made with PVC but I consider the application.

The world has indeed changed because we now have the internets for research.

https://www.ecowatch.com/why-you-should-avoid-pvc-products-1881927242.html

PS: Educate me on Marine board when you get a chance if you feel like it. I want to start using it on my projects.

I’ll do this later today or tomorrow if possible.

Right now, I’m already moving towards 28mm Shipping Container Flooring Plywood for lintels and beams.

n3xt:
Smiles. I’ll send you samples if you want or give you the link to the Chinese company selling it for further discussion.

My concrete mixer drum sef is PVC How about that?
The world changed already.

My supplier is Coowin. You can check out their range of PVC products here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyusAStNdjI

I’m more focused on their wall/ceiling panels

This is not a low budget material. It’s 5 times expensive than conventional POP ceilings.

EgunMogaji2:
Speaking on the first pic alone because it looks like the abroad then I’ll wager that you’re looking at 100% wood, not PVC. Exhibit 1

No home inspector will approve a kitchen with PVC in at least California due to its fire performance properties.

You’ll find PVC on the exterior on low budget builds and in non fire prone areas. Exhibit 2

I’m still open minded to learn because knowing you, you’ll dig up a interview of the architect/builder confirming that it’s PVC

Smiles. I’ll send you samples if you want or give you the link to the Chinese company selling it for further discussion.

My concrete mixer drum sef is PVC How about that?
The world changed already.

EgunMogaji2:
Okay then. I’m assuming you did the install?

I have one like this on here. I have to check though.

We use the combination of amoula pvc and POP.

In actually fact, one of my latest work in Chevron had PVC elements. The ceiling is not the conventional designs we see around. I’ll try to share now.

The project is underway.


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Sorry I had to take a screenshot of the bill from phone. All the materials used are PVC elements (not the regular pvc though)

The company supplying me is a Chinese company.

EgunMogaji2:
What is PVC? Not the ceiling for sure.

The marked area is 100% PVC.

This is still PVC

The external pvc Ceiling on this project was installed almost 10 years ago and I’ve not had to call 911 or do any repair.

Nettuno:
That is what I think I can afford. Pop is on the high side for me.

I love people who are honest with themselves. At a point in one of my personal build, I couldn’t afford POP so I opted for PVC in all rooms but kitchen (I had slab in the kitchen).

A year later, I removed everything and installed POP in every room and screeded even all the walls.

I did that when I know I can afford it.

It’s not PVC that’s bad. Poor installation, lack of good maintenance culture, and trying to cut corners are always the major cause of problems.

PVC is present in various elements, from toys and tools to some construction materials and it’s not as if they just without a cause.

I can still share a ten year old external ceiling PVC installation. It’s still standing firm and solid.

Jasobry:
This wooden door is made in locally... I want to use same design for my entrance door. How cool is it?

This is good!

Pls do share his contact with us. Thanks.

Chekitaut:
i have move chippings from Edo to PH...

I remember. That’s what nearly prompted me to ask if you can deliver to PH.

The cost is just a part. The road and the task force issh is something else to deal with.

sako28:
Chipping in PHC is gold ooo. A times due to stress from calabar or Abia, we just go for the Chinese one. U see what u buy and leave. 20k transport is may be to Oyingbo side. Any move beyond aba road na 30k above.

Gold is the word.

sako28:
Oga I hail,
From Abakaliki that I don't know, but from Cross river is +/- 330 to PH. Due to bad road ur granite can be delayed by 1 or 2 days.

However, There is a Chinese company after Port harcourt Refinery that crush and sell granite of different size. The rate is 10k per tonne, then u negotiate transport to ur site separately. E.g to deliver to Ada George area of PH is like 40-45k. To Uzoba and Choba area is like 50k. Try to negotiate the transport to ur best ability.

Hope this help.

PH is a different world entirely. It’s not getting cheaper at all.

People like you will be smiling when you’re reading the diff stories on this thread.

bixton:
Good Day
Please what's the rate now from Abakaliki to PHC for 30 tons

I really can’t remember but at a point I felt it’s almost cheaper/faster for me to ask chekitaut to bring the chippings for me from South West.

bixton:
The place he went to probably makes use of an open yard where they have cutting machines that grinds the acquired larger stones to the specified sizes. People patronize such places most especially when they want their deliveries in daylight hours. Deliveries from Calabar and Abakaliki comes mostly in the night especially those whose papers have issues and who are avoiding taskforce on the road. Except they have changed even when they get to PHC by 4pm most stop along the express especially by Oil mill junction or some other safe place till about 7pm before heading to the specific delivery site.

You’re very correct here!

Chekitaut:
Port-Harcourt pick Granite from Calabar no Quarry in PH.

Transportation cost from Calabar is over 170k for 30tons

I got from Abakaliki.

asskush:
Boss, Thanks for your response , please what is DPC .

Also known as ‘German Floor’ in layman terms.


See pics below.

EgunMogaji2:
Getting this replicated off of Pinterest.

We need powdercoaters in Ibadan.

I used to know a guy around Mokola but that was a long time ago. I’ll ask from a friend if he’s still in the game.

raymondFirstborn:
Marine / industrial paints would do wonders.

Did this for a client a while back.

+1 for marine paints

Aforxzy:
The issues here is that everyone has become a jack of all trades but this shouldn't be. We all have our clear and distinct roles to play on a project , which makes us experts in what we do. Every party is vital to the successful completion of a project but we overlook them because of their fee.

However the construction of any structure should be about quality, cost and time but most times we tend to value cost saving over quality control .

The bolded part though.

raymondFirstborn:
Contingency is 10% , the 40k pegged as contingency is an error on the part of the QS.

Thanks raymondFirstborn. I love this type of discussion. Let’s hear from others.

Contingencies are estimated with intuition and the percentage ranges between 1% - 5% but not more than 10% (except special constructions).

A QS who allowed +10% contingency must be an extremely generous one. Remember, there’s still variation and supervision

One4me:
Very true, we seem to underestimate the value of QS!
I think l will trust a Quantity Surveyor more, to supervise my building project (as long as l have a competent Builder), than employ an Engineer for Supervision.
Unlike an Engineer, he will monitor the Cost and Material usage, due to his knowledge of material costing and can quickly advise where shortages or excesses might occur and the Builder can double as the Engineer, especially in these days when Architects are also parading as Engineers and Builders.
My opinion, #NotABibelli

Baba, you’re very correct BUT for this to happen you’ll need the following:

- Complete and fully dimensioned plans and section. (I really mean complete )
- Detailed specifications
- Rates of various items of work (the schedule of rate MUST be followed as far as possible and there must be thorough supervision of the project for this to work).

But I think, it’d be nice to hear from the horses mouth. QS dey here na.

Let’s learn about the following from the QS in the house:

- Contigencies
- And of course, how Bill of Quantities can help to deal with the issues of rip offs by suppliers which is always a major issue discussed here on a daily basis.



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From my experience tho, QS aren’t always there to monitor costs o
Na we dey always complain to the homeowners/project managers before changes are effected.

I’ve been on a N5.5m project that the QS place contingency at 40k. It was not until we enumerated the numerous site challenges that the owner decided to change his approach.

First issue was accessibility. Trucks couldn’t get in for weeks and we had to transload materials to site. This cost about 8k per trip on a project where 40k contingency was allowed.

I can go on and on but let’s hear from the pros.

Good morning!

KolaShangOne:
Akobo, ibadan.

I don’t have boards in Ibadan right now. How soon will these be needed?

What’s the size of the project and the duration?

amosblisz:
Pls how many tyres of a truck has a 20ton and a 30ton of granite?

I don't want to be cheated by my Engr buying a 20ton instead of a 30ton granite

When I’m in least doubt, I go with small tippers. Here’s why:

n3xt:
Tbh, I can’t say but what I know is big trucks rob BIG and small trucks rob small.

It’s easy to spot a 5 tonnes truck that’s not full than a 30 tonnes truck carrying 25 tonnes of sand.

Here’s a very good example:

Another contractor on my ongoing project used one trip of 20 tons and a few quantities of sand for his blinding while I use one trip of 10 tons and a very few quantity of stonedust for the same size of foundation; same depth and same approved mix ratio.

He used 10 tyre truck. I use 6 tyre tipper.

Pallets for sale.

#800 per unit (excluding transport/shipping cost).

Location: Ogun state

Javaside:
Hello All,

Many thanks for the information being provided here.

Please can someone help with an estimated cost of a four bedroom flat bungalow with just 2 toilets -- need to compare with estimated cost received from an engineer. Below is the cost received from an engineer for foundation

Foundation

Blocks- 1500 - #225,000 1200. I’m using 1250 for the 2 flat. N150 per block is a good price tho.

Sand- 2 Trips- #56,000 Fair enough. I used 1 trip of 6 tyre tipper per block for Blinding.

Water- #10,000 Ok

Digging- #120,000 Too much. Budget 60k Max. I did less based on the quantity involved.

Granite- #75,000 Is the DPC inclusive?

43 bags of cement- #120,400 Too much for blinding and block setting

Pegging 70k Too much. Budget 20k max.

Casting 130k Is this inclusive of the DPC? If yes, it’s ok. If not, budget 60k

Bosses in the house kindly assist to validate.

I’m giving you the above based on my ongoing project. I’m currently working on 123 blocks of 2 bed semi-detached bungalows with following details:

- 600mm deep foundation
- 150cm thick blinding
- 1250 blocks per unit
- 22 cement for blinding per block
- Blinding is 55k per block
- 1 1/2 trip of water at 5500 per trip (Blinding and Block work)

BrabusNG:
Good News to Homeowners/Builders/Engineers/Contractors in Ajah and Lagos/Ibadan expressway area.

We just added new mixers to our equipment list.

- 1 cement bag mixer (Ajah and it’s environ)
- 1/2 cement bag mixer (Lagos/Ibadan expressway)

We also have 7 cu. ft Belle mortar mixers (electric/mechanized).

Call 0700NEXTHOME
Whatsapp +234.80.234.29.122

New Addition - Ogun State

- Multiquip Mixer
- Umacon Mixer

KolaShangOne:
Brabus @n3xt

Do you have marine plywood boards in for rent

To which location?

Chekitaut:
Another Banger
05/11/2020
Client: Non Nairalander but a Nairalander recommendation
Location: Isher Osun(Ijegun)
Consignment: Granite 3/4 30tons
Price: ₦200k as at point of order

... won't you rather check us out?

Cunning man die, cunning man bury am.

My guy was supplied this as 30 tonnes after our discussion this aftn.

KolaShangOne:
Was APG issued by a bank on behalf of the private client?

Or are you building for government?

Yes, it was issued by a bank on behalf of a private client.

Trustbond Mortgage Bank


There are few things to do to access the funds though.

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Contractors’ with insurance have to present their Contract Award Letter, Building Plans and Quotation to the bank and upon approval pay a bond fee which will be calculated based on the fund accessed.

Ibk2020:
Oga rotecch77 called me this morning, and we make a conference call with Dennis3D.

I believe both party is at fault here, oga Dennis refund the remaining 25k immediately after the call.

Thanks to Rotecch77 for your time sir

Thanks for the update.

rotecch77, blessed are the peacemakers.

saydfact:
I've been away for about a month - come back and 1st thing I see - NEXT is preaching peace and DENNIS is being dragged..


NNA NO DEY TIRE ?

n3xt: How u doing, great guy

I was just saying the fact ni.

Welcome bro! We will definitely get it right one day in this country.

Ibk2020:
100% accurate

Baba, Dennis na your guy! I agree he blew it up but please kindly let this slide.

You’re doing a great project. Don’t let anything or anyone ruin your joy. Move on with an open mind and God will grant you speedy completion.


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One last request sir, please kindly help me take down all the negative posts you shared in here.
Believe a lot is happening on this matter in the background and your voice has been heard ‘loud and clear.’

It’s a personal request and I’d be happy if you can do this.