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ednut1: mikel obi like seriously. d same otondo commentators nd pundits slate. chelsea fans nd sentiments

Why d furck should u insult him by calling him "otondo"??.

Greek giants Olympiakos are reported to be interested in snapping up out-of-favour Chelsea player Michael Essien.
The 31-year-old’s agent recently revealed that the Ghana international is considering moving from Stamford Bridge for more game time.
But Olympiakos should be prepared to fight for his services with French giants Olympique Lyon and Besiktas expressing interest.
Essien, who returned on loan from Real Madrid this season, managed only six appearances in for Chelsea before the turn of the year.
He was was not included in Chelsea’s Champions League squad for the Group stages.

Source:-Mtnfootball.com

Dhelake: U for extend the list to One goal.. so that Mikel can appear

Hahaha.Mikel would probably be 100th.

bayulll01: On point bro,why do u wana use 3 wingers this is 2014 not 1994,or u ve never imagine why morhino decide to cheap moses to liverpool,let's build our team from mildfid what shall it profit a team with moses and musa runing on wing without result

Lol.We'll play with midfielders and leave d wings empty ??.Hahahahaha
Bro the football pitch is made up of different positions that needs to be covered and d wing is one of them.
How many teams play without wingers ??.
Or u expect mikel or onazi or igiebor to play on d wings ??
I dont really understand ur reasoning.
3 wingers is even little to take to d world cup.
Almost all team's starting XI has two wingers or two players playing on d wings.
That is kinda like a rule in football.
Becos moses was shipped out by chelsea makes him a useless winger to nigeria ??
He might be useless to chelsea/liverpool,but a very useful and key player of d super eagles.
Bring d current(thats 4rm their last matches) 23-man list of every country that is going to d world cup(including spain),you wont find less than 3 wingers.
So i dont understand ur reasoning

bayulll01: Those list I gave above is just a list of player for trial and can never be our 1st 11,what determine a player to be in first eleven is form and,if moses form is bad he will sit on bench,dint u see what happen to casillas when not in form,what if haruna was invited and he's form was splendid,and mikel dip in form will u bench inform haruna and play mikel who's not in form,as I said earlier am a chelsea fan and I hold no beef for mikel

I'm a chelsea fan too.
Mikel is not in form but he has started more games at chelsea this season than haruna has in a average ukrainian league.
Haruna has been just been decent.
But Most people just exaggerate haruna's form.
Becos he scored three screamers.
Good.Haruna has struggled to make d starting XI of average dynamo kyiv(he comes in mostly as a 2nd half sub).
While mikel has been making d starting XI of chelsea.

23-man LIST for me should include:-

THREE GOAL-KEEPERS

THREE FULL-BACKS

FOUR CENTER BACKS(Which would include a versatile defender that can also play as full-back,e.g omeruo)

TWO DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDERS

TWO CENTRAL/BOX-TO-BOX MIDFIELDERS

THREE CREATIVE/ATTACKING MIDFIELDERS

THREE WINGERS

THREE HIT-MEN

bayulll01: *************************Emenike****************
**************Aluko**********************Moses***
****************************Haruna***************
**************Onazi***********************Mikel***
***Oshaniwa********Oboabona**********Omeruo***
*****************************Enyeama************
Rest of the squad
[12] Austin Ejide
[13] Dele Alampasu
[14] Solomon Kwambe/Leon Balogun
[15] Uwa Echiejile/Benjamin Francis
[16] Azubike Egwuekwe
[17] Efe Ambrose/Kenny Otiga
[18] Joel Obi/Michael Olaitan
[19] Ramon Azeez
[20] Kelechi Iheanacho/Nosa Igiebor/Rabiu
Ibrahim
[21] Shola Ameobi
[22] Chinedu Obasi
[23] Ahmed Musa
However, before we can agree on this squad,
these players need to be tried and tested in
friendly games. I suggest we use the March Fifa
window judiciously as it is the last chance we will
have.
We need all these 29 players in camp on March
and have to try them all out, in what will be our
most important pruning exercise of the World Cup
programme. Fifa's March window may well
determine if we fail or succeed in Brazil 2014.
Kind regards
Ayo Akinfe
Nigerian Watch
London
UK

Errors on this post/My disagreements:-
1) Incomplete XI

2)Oshinaiwa in d starting XI ahead of echiejile/Francis ??.On what basis ??.Even Francis is far better than oshinaiwa.

3)Chinedu Obasi-Dude has struggled with injuries and isnt getting game-time at schalke.
If things remains the same,he shouldnt even be invited.
You can say victor moses also isnt starting games but at least moses comes in as a substitute in almost every game unlike obasi who doesnt play AT ALL(same goes with joel obi).

4)Haruna As 1st Choice Play-maker/attacking midfielder
:-Haruna is a very good player.
His abilities include Great vision,superb passing skills,Precise Long-range shooting.
But what y'all fail to understand is that haruna is a very lazy player,just like mikel.
His off-the-ball play is poor.He doesnt mark,doesnt charge.When he isnt with d ball he just strolls/jog around like mikel.And he isnt so fast also.
Having two lazy players in midfield would be a disaster as only onazi would be doing d running around.
Teams with fast/hardworking,Beasty midfielders would over-run us.
What we need in attacking midfield is a player that posses haruna's abilities(long-range shooting,superb passing skills,great vision) but in addition,hard-working,has okay pace,and skill.
In the starting XI,aluko was placed on the wings.Very good.But he could be more useful in attacking midfield.He posseses everything haruna has,and in addition he's pacy,hard working and very skillful.Playing him behind emenike would be great.That is d position he has been playing at hull city for two seasons now.
That his left foot wicked diie.

Another player that would fit that attacking/creative midfield position better is Micheal olaitan
Some people argue that he is still young and inexperienced 2 be in the starting XI,but so were onazi and omeruo before afcon.He's even d same age as both players(20yrs).
Olaitan is a good passer,hardworking,fast and skillful.

I'll pick Sone Aluko/Micheal Olaitan ahead of Haruna for attacking/creative midfield.

5) In a list of 29 players,only two hit-men were included.
Emenike and the 2nd ??.
Ameobi, a striker that is in no way prolific and NOT an out-and-out striker.
So if emenike gets injured(God forbid),we'll then depend on Ameobi for goals ??
Hahahahaha.
And Strikers like ameobi aren't played as lone strikers up-front in a 4-5-1 /4-3-3 formation.They are played together with real,prolific strikers in a 4-4-2 formation.
So going by that list,if something happens to emenike,world cup is going to be CONFEDERATIONS CUP PART 2.
In my Opinion 23 list should contain at least 3 hit-men.
TWO PROLIFIC STRIKERS:-E.g:-Emenike and Ike Uche/Imoh ezekiel

ONE BIG "HOLD UP PLAY"/SUPPORTING STRIKER
:-Shola Ameobi/Bright dike/Anichebe.

ROCK-J:
Thank you for your effort.... nice one

Yah !.Thanks !

GH^KWAME:
Exaggerated lie! Keep tickling yourself. Ghanaians, South africans and Kenyans who are always bashed on this site always stress the point that they are only here to defend their irrespective countries anytime you guys pull the "this is nairaland and not foreignland" ish.... What fun? The daily insults you guys spew on other countries? We keep logging on to this site because we(foreigners) know Y'all like to do mumu comparisons.

Again:-

naija noni: LIE !!. people that are here to defend their countries would only defend their countries whenever she's been bashed,and thats all !!!.
But majority of foreigners including those who claim they are here just to defend their countries participate in discussions on threads with general topics that has nothing to do with their countries,create their own topics and just catch fun.

They onl

marutimon: Good work but I found sme flaws:

You counted the Ukrainian league, but didn't count the Portuguese league, which is currently ranked 5th in Europe. Also the list was arbitrarily cut at the Turkish league (11th according to FIFA). Lets stick with the top 15 leagues (add the Swiss, Austrain, Czech and Greek leagues). Also some players are missing, including the topscorer from Africa (even though Imoh Ezekiel from the same league appears on the list), Also a bunch of 5+ goal players do not feature on your list (because they have less recognisable names or play for lesser clubs?):

Hamdi Harbaoui (Lokeren, Belgium, Tunisia) - 12 goals
Sadio Mane (Red Bull Salzburg, Austria, Senegal) - 9 goals
Mouhamadou Habib Habibou (Zulte Waregem, Belgium, Central African Republic) - 9 goals
Francis Litsingi (FK Teplice, Czech Rep., Congo) - 9 goals
Yannick Boli (Zorya, Ukraine, Ivory Coast) - 8 goals
Heldon (Maritimo, Portugal, Cape Verde) - 8 goals
Omar Niasse (Akhisarspor, Turkey, Senegal) - 8 goals
Ibrahima Balde (FC Kuban, Russia, Senegal) - 7 goals
Lamine Diarra (Antalyaspor, Turkey, Senegal) - 7 goals
Ahmed Musa (CSKA Moscor, Nigeria) - 5 goals
Rachid Bourabia (Lierse, Belgium, Morocco) - 5 goals
Elimane Coulibaly (Kortrijk, Belgium, Senegal) - 5 goals
Evariste Ngolok (OH Leuven, Belgium, Cameroon) - 5 goals
Henri Camara (Panaitholikos, Greece, Senegal) - 5 goals
Foued Kadir (Rennes, Algeria) - 5 goals
Prince Oniangue (Congo, Stade Reims) - 5 goals
Mustapha Yatabare (Guingamp, Mali) - 5 goals
Younes Belhanda (Dynamo Kyiv, Morocco) - 5 goals
Abdou Razack Traore (Gaziantep, Turkey, Burkina Faso) - 5 goals

Made some modifications.
But i left out some players u listed above though becos of their teams.
From the 7th to 12th league,players that play for teams that are not in d top 5 of those leagues were left out.

marutimon: Good work but I found sme flaws:

You counted the Ukrainian league, but didn't count the Portuguese league, which is currently ranked 5th in Europe. Also the list was arbitrarily cut at the Turkish league (11th according to FIFA). Lets stick with the top 15 leagues (add the Swiss, Austrain, Czech and Greek leagues). Also some players are missing, including the topscorer from Africa (even though Imoh Ezekiel from the same league appears on the list), Also a bunch of 5+ goal players do not feature on your list (because they have less recognisable names or play for lesser clubs?):

Hamdi Harbaoui (Lokeren, Belgium, Tunisia) - 12 goals
Sadio Mane (Red Bull Salzburg, Austria, Senegal) - 9 goals
Mouhamadou Habib Habibou (Zulte Waregem, Belgium, Central African Republic) - 9 goals
Francis Litsingi (FK Teplice, Czech Rep., Congo) - 9 goals
Yannick Boli (Zorya, Ukraine, Ivory Coast) - 8 goals
Heldon (Maritimo, Portugal, Cape Verde) - 8 goals
Omar Niasse (Akhisarspor, Turkey, Senegal) - 8 goals
Ibrahima Balde (FC Kuban, Russia, Senegal) - 7 goals
Lamine Diarra (Antalyaspor, Turkey, Senegal) - 7 goals
Ahmed Musa (CSKA Moscor, Nigeria) - 5 goals
Rachid Bourabia (Lierse, Belgium, Morocco) - 5 goals
Elimane Coulibaly (Kortrijk, Belgium, Senegal) - 5 goals
Evariste Ngolok (OH Leuven, Belgium, Cameroon) - 5 goals
Henri Camara (Panaitholikos, Greece, Senegal) - 5 goals
Foued Kadir (Rennes, Algeria) - 5 goals
Prince Oniangue (Congo, Stade Reims) - 5 goals
Mustapha Yatabare (Guingamp, Mali) - 5 goals
Younes Belhanda (Dynamo Kyiv, Morocco) - 5 goals
Abdou Razack Traore (Gaziantep, Turkey, Burkina Faso) - 5 goals

Good observations.
Actually while compiling d list,i used the top 12 leagues in europe.
(Spain-Greece).
I considered leagues from 13th and below as "obscure".
I used score-boards of the top 12 leagues.Then confirmed the african players stats from soccerway.com.
My mistakes were identifying some of the africans in the scorers charts of some of those leagues(
Kinda hard to identify all d africans without making mistakes).
Would modify immediately with your list above.
Concerning players with same no. Of goals i considered amount of games/minutes played,then assists.
Thats why Some players with 5 goals aren't on d chart.
Those that have played lesser games/minutes are ranked above the rest wit d same goals.

And its a "TOP 20 CHART".

Scandanavian/obscure leagues aside.

With most leagues in europe half-way through,here is a list of africa's highest scorers in the top-flight of top european leagues so far this season(2013/2014).

LEAGUE GOALS ONLY :-

1.HAMDI HARBAOUI-12 GOALS-LOKOREN-TUNISIA

2. EMMANUEL EMENIKE-11 GOALS-FENERBAHCE/SPARTAK MOSCOW-NIGERIA

3.VINCENT ABOUBAKAR-11 GOALS LORIENT-CAMEROON

4. YAYA TOURE-10 GOALS-MANCHESTER CITY-IVORY-COAST

5. DAME N'DOYE-10 GOALS-LOKOMOTIF MOSCOW -SENEGAL.

6.SEDOU DOUMBIA-9 GOALS-CSKA MOSCOW-IVORY COAST.

7.IKECHUKWU UCHE-9 GOALS-VILLARREAL-NIGERIA

8.MOUSSA SOW-9 GOALS-FENERBAHCE-SENEGAL.

9. PIERRE EMERICK AUBAMEYANG-9 GOALS-BORRUSIA DORTMUND-GABON.

10. MOHAMMADOU HABIBOU-9 GOALS-ZULTE WAREGEM-CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC


11. HELDON-8 GOALS-MARATIMO-CAPE-VERDE

12. DIEUMERCI MBOKANI-8 GOALS-DYNAMO KYIV-CONGO

13. IMOH EZEKIEL-8 GOALS STANDARD LIEGE-NIGERIA

14. PIERRE ACHILLE WEBO-7 GOALS-FENERBAHCE-CAMEROON.

15. DIDIER DROGBA-7 GOALS-GALATASARAY-IVORY COAST

16. CHEIK DIABATE-7 GOALS-BOURDEUX-MALI.

17. WILFRED BONY-6 GOALS-SWANSEA-IVORY COAST


18. SALOMON KALOU - 6 GOALS - LILLE -IVORY COAST

19. YOUSSEF EL ARABI-6 GOALS-GRANADA-MORROCCO

20. SAMI ALLAGUI-6 GOALS-HERTHA BERLIN-TUNISIA

Jigga_man101: Majority are here because their countries are being bashed. Nigerians are good at bashing especially their favorite two. Ghana number 1 and South Africa number 2. That has brought this site numerous Ghanaians and South Africans.

LIE !!. people that are here to defend their countries would only defend their countries whenever she's been bashed,and thats all !!!.
But majority of foreigners including those who claim they are here just to defend their countries participate in discussions on threads with general topics that has nothing to do with their countries,create their own topics and just catch fun.

They onl

pazienza: I will remove Onazi and replace him with Asamoah, dude had been outstanding for Juve.

Yeah i'll do so too reluctantly,just to include at least ONE GHANAIAN.
Onazi has been superb for both club and country though.

Jigga_man101: Of course it would have more foreigners, because Nigerians don't know how to mind their business. They are always trashing other countries. I found this website by doing a google search about Ghana. I don't think there are even 100 foreigners here.

.
Thats a LIE.
A lot of foreigners arent here becos their countries are bashed.A lot are here just for d fun of it.
I dont know d exact number of foreigners here but i tell u they are numerous.If u visit all d sections not just politics and sports you wont be saying foreigners here arent up to 100 or foreigners are here just becos their countries are bashed.

I guess u just started visiting nairaland this year.No wonder.

Jigga_man101: Do you expect ghanaweb to be as big as nairaland. Even if the whole pop of Ghana visits ghanaweb and a quarter of Nigeria pop visits nairaland, it will still be bigger. This is when your pop gives you advantage.

Population of nations aside,Nairaland has more foreign members than ghanaweb.Thats a FACT.

GH^KWAME:
Re: Football: Between Nigerians And Ghanaians

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Hmmmmm! No wonder he turns a blind eye when Ghanaians are insulted on his site.

Same way nigerians are insulted on ghanaian sites and they turn blind eyes.

PetroDolla2: MUMU-in-Chief

Hahahaha.Dullard-in-chief.
PETROL DULLARD !!!.
Everybody on NL knows u as a psychatric patient.

marutimon: You're pushing it. 2013 Swedish league will be used for the upcoming Champions League. So last season is 2012, this season is 2013 and next season is 2014.

Andre Ayew also scored 12 in all competitions last season.

2013 season has ended already,so its no longer "this season",its "last season.
Well in any way u put it.
If accam scored 10 goals "this season",then he aint qualified,Warris is cos i'm talking about "last season".
Okay

Hbuyosh: Startin 2day till the WC, I will be praying 4Naija. I will be praying to God to ensure that you are thwacked very heavily in your first match. I will incite God against u by reminding him how much he detests arrogant pipo. I will tell God to make sure that that first team you'll encounter hands u at least 6-0 and u be the very first team to pack their bags home, because your attitude reeks.

Hahahahaha.
E don pain dis one finish.
Sorry bro,Ndo.
Stop crying na.
Instead of u to pray for ur country kenya,you want to pray for evil against another country.
Those kind of prayers doesnt work.
Go to d mountains,fast for 40 days and 40 nights.
Lock urself indoors and pray fervently against nigeria 24 hrs everyday.
You can also invite ur family,friends and loved ones too.

Hahahahaha.

marutimon: Abdul Waris scored 26 goals in Sweden last season.
This season David Accam scored 10 goals in the same league.

.
When i talk of "LAST SEASON" i mean the season that ended in 2013.
The scandanavian leagues season is from February to October/November.
The scandanavian leagues ended last month.
So The season that ended last month is what u'll refer as "LAST SEASON" in d scandanavian league.
Warris scored 23 goals "LAST TWO SEASONS" in sweden,moved to spartak moscow november last year and couldnt cut it there(would be loaned out next month).

So David accam is d only ghanaian player that scored 10 goals and above in a top flight league in europe last season.

Scandanavian league for dat matter.

When i say we have top strikers, its compared to ghana.
A few african countries MIGHT have more top strikers than nigeria.


Last season NO ghanaian player in any TOP FLIGHT league in europe scored goals in double figures(10 goals and above).
Ghana's highest scorer in europe last season was Andre Ayew with 9 goals.
But i can list about 6 nigerian players that scored goals in double figures.

striker9: You keep jumping from pillar to post,stay on a specific argument,now you have jumped to goals,na wa o.

I tire oh.

Jigga_man101: How many goals did Nigeria score in the qualifiers with all your top strikers. The most y'all can score is two, even you are more likely to be scoreless than score a goal.

We have some top strikers but unfortunately,not all have been in d team.
Of d top strikers we have,only emenike always get invited by keshi for matches and he scores in almost every match.
Most of these strikers either have problem with keshi due to ego/indiscipline/lack of commitment or keshi doesnt fancy them for his system.

E.g keshi prefers to invite ameobi that doesnt score more than 4 goals in a season for newcastle over uche that doesnt score less than 10 goals per season in d la liga.

Becos ameobi is disciplined and commited unlike uche.

We've played FOUR top teams(spain,uruguay,italy,Ivory coast) in two YEARS and lost just two matches.
But ghana has played only ONE "OKAY" team in two years and still lost 8 MATCHES(egypt arent EVEN such a top team compared with any of d four top teams nigeria has played).
Compare that.
We shouldnt even be talking.

Jigga_man101: Aren't y'all the ones that brag about having the top strikers. Strikers who can't score.

That is another argument.We are talking about how chances missed at d confeds cup,not strikers.
And btw None of d top strikers (emenike,Uche e.t.c)we brag about was in d confeds cup.
These are d strikers we took to d confeds cup :- Gambo,akpala,ujah,babatunde
Immediately after d confeds cup All of them have been given a life-ban from d S.E and nobody has ever bragged about dese strikers.
They were taken to d confeds cup to be tested,but they failed woefully(thats why i said d confeds cup was taken like friendly matches to test new players).
Italy that have top strikers still missed chances against nigeria.

Jigga_man101: You created more chances than Spain and Uruguay, maybe you should watch the game again.

That is a fact.I've watched high-lights of those games numerous times.Against spain,Nigeria missed more than 6 clear-cut chances(akpala,mba,mikel,ideye twice,gambo e.t.c)
Spain missed only two clear-cut chances(soldado and fabregas in d 1st half).

Uruguay though we dominated with possesion,i think d chances both teams created were even.

Jigga_man101: And Spain and Uruguay and you lost. Y'all got lucky with Ivory Coast and Italy should have scored at least 6 goals.

Bro its result that matters at d end.
You say italy should have scored 6 goals against nigeria.
Same way nigeria should have scored 6 goals against spain and 6 goals against uruguay.
We dominated created more chances than uruguay and spain but lost.
Same way italy created more chances against nigeria and still drew.
At d end of d day its d result that mattered not how many chances italy missed against nigeria or how many chances nigeria missed against uruguay and spain.
We've played FOUR top teams(spain,uruguay,italy,Ivory coast) in two YEARS and lost just two matches.

But ghana has played only ONE "OKAY" team in two years and still lost 8 MATCHES(egypt arent EVEN such a top team compared with any of d four top teams nigeria has played).

Compare that.
We shouldnt even be talking.

Jigga_man101: Who have you played apart from Ivory Coast. When you beat Ghana then you can talk. And you still draw against lesser teams

And who have u played aside egypt ??.
Pls dont mention mali/zambia here oh.
We've played italy,ivory coast.

Jigga_man101: No Ghanaian watch that third place game.

You'll say YOU didnt watch it.
But "NO GHANAIAN" ??.
hahahaha.

Jigga_man101: How have we been average, we have made it to at least the semifinals each of the last four afcon. You on the other hand have miss World Cup, african cup and you always draw against lesser teams. Spare me average describes the nigerian team.

We havent lost to an african team in TWO YEARS while ghana has lost 6 matches to african teams.

We have lost only TWO MATCHES IN TWO YEARS,whle ghana has lost over 8 MATCHES.
Consistency ??