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I have refrained from speaking on this Igbo support for jonathan or IBB for a long time . The SE no doubt is the beautiful bride in the coming elections but i expect them to be wise. I will advice that they take the option that best suites them. The question now is , do they know the best option? are they taking a position based on proper appraisal of the political space? or is it revenge for the deeds of the SS or just hanging on promises from an individual whose record show a man with a penchant for explaining away why he can not keep prmosises?


The Igbos must note very clearly that if 40 years has not been able to erase the pains of the civil war, so has 40 years not doused the suspicion the average northerner has for the Igbos. LIKE IT OR NOT, THIS WILL DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENS IN 2015, EVEN WITH PDP ROTATION.

something a lot of us seem to be be overlooking is that while the average southerner thinks the PDP zoning arrangement means power rotates amongst the six geopolitical regions( NW,NE,NC,SW,SS,SE), the north simply understands it as a purely NORTH and SOUTH rotation. The danger in this is that the same geopolitical region say NW can keep producing the president when it goes to the North. The same applies to the south too. The difference is that while the north will be able to handle it, for the south it will be a major problem becuase of the tribal divide and inhererent suscpicions.

TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, IF THE NORTH HAS TO CHOOSE BETWEEN ,SS,SE,SW, YOU CAN BE SURE THAT THE SW WILL BE THEIR OVERWHELMING FAVOURITE ANYDAY.

If The SE fails to support the SS now, then it is a given that the SS will not support the SE when 2015 comes and with that even with zoning of the PDP, the SE candidate will not win. It is that simple.

Is the presidency a must for the SS at this time? I will say certainly not. What the SS needs is massive development and federal presence that properly represent its contibution to the nigerian economy. Development that will drastically reduce youth restiveness and prepare the people for the days after oil, afterall it is estimated that our reserves may not last more that 35 years from now. It is common knowledge that aside the gigantic campaign promises of successive governments , there has been virtually no work done over the years, hence it understandable if the average ND man now thinks that it might just be different this time, if our son is the steersman for the nation this time.

I believe the SE should get serious commitments from jonathan on massive developments in the SE, during the period of wait.The truth is that the SE and SS are so connected that development or crime in one region inadvertently affects the other. I therefore think it will be foolishness on GEJ's part , to ignore the SE if he plans lasting peace and development in the SS.

I am very sure that period of wait for the Igbos will defintively not be less than 8 yrs.(may be i am wrong). IBB will never do 1 term If IBB wins and stays for 8 years at the expense of GEJ,then we can all be sure that it will take the SS,some die hard northern elements and an indiffent SW to scuttle the plan.

This is one time the SE, and SS need to bond together. Anything short will be a lose-lose for both regions. QED.

I have refrained from speaking on this Igbo support for jonathan or IBB for a long time . The SE no doubt is the beautiful bride in the coming elections but i expect them to be wise. I will advice that they take the option that best suites them. The question now is , do they know the best option? are they taking a position based on proper appraisal of the political space? or is it revenge for the deeds of the SS or just hanging on promises from an individual whose record show a man with a penchant for explaining away why he can not keep prmosises?


The Igbos must note very clearly that if 40 years has not been able to erase the pains of the civil war, so has 40 years not doused the suspicion the average northerner has for the Igbos. LIKE IT OR NOT, THIS WILL DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENS IN 2015, EVEN WITH PDP ROTATION.

something a lot of us seem to be be overlooking is that while the average southerner thinks the PDP zoning arrangement means power rotates amongst the six geopolitical regions( NW,NE,NC,SW,SS,SE), the north simply understands it as a purely NORTH and SOUTH rotation. The danger in this is that the same geopolitical region say NW can keep producing the president when it goes to the North. The same applies to the south too. The difference is that while the north will be able to handle it, for the south it will be a major problem becuase of the tribal divide and inhererent suscpicions.

TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, IF THE NORTH HAS TO CHOOSE BETWEEN ,SS,SE,SW, YOU CAN BE SURE THAT THE SW WILL BE THEIR OVERWHELMING FAVOURITE ANYDAY.

If The SE fails to support the SS now, then it is a given that the SS will not support the SE when 2015 comes and with that even with zoning of the PDP, the SE candidate will not win. It is that simple.

Is the presidency a must for the SS at this time? I will say certainly not. What the SS needs is massive development and federal presence that properly represent its contibution to the nigerian economy. Development that will drastically reduce youth restiveness and prepare the people for the days after oil, afterall it is estimated that our reserves may not last more that 35 years from now. It is common knowledge that aside the gigantic campaign promises of successive governments , there has been virtually no work done over the years, hence it understandable if the average ND man now thinks that it might just be different this time, if our son is the steersman for the nation this time.

I believe the SE should get serious commitments from jonathan on massive developments in the SE, during the period of wait.The truth is that the SE and SS are so connected that development or crime in one region inadvertently affects the other. I therefore think it will be foolishness on GEJ's part , to ignore the SE if he plans lasting peace and development in the SS.

I am very sure that period of wait for the Igbos will defintively not be less than 8 yrs.(may be i am wrong). IBB will never do 1 term If IBB wins and stays for 8 years at the expense of GEJ,then we can all be sure that it will take the SS,some die hard northern elements and an indiffent SW to scuttle the plan.

This is one time the SE, and SS need to bond together. Anything short will be a lose-lose for both regions. QED.

johnie:
Good points GAR3TH.

These are the reasons I have always feared that the alternative coastal road will either not get done in time (read 20 years?) or will not be done at all.

Why would they provide a toll free alternate when they want to re-coup their investment quickly?
Add to that that the cost of building a brand new road on such a terrain as the shore-line will be humungous.

quickly? for 30 years? I comment my reserve. hmmmmmmm

wetin dey worry siasia sef? abi family winch dey pursue am?
why throw an opportunity like this away on the grounds of very high demands? Let him negotiate for 5m and forget. which one be 15m, who go pay am that kind money?

tpiah:
^^and your evidence the lagos govt consulted nobody is?

Why not take it the other way. What evidence do you have that the people were carried along, with all facts brought to the open for them to decide from the outset?

Akanbi_edu:
As somebody said before, people should decide whether they want development or not!

Oga, If the cost of "development" is to pay toll for 30 years at three different points over a 49 km stretch , all because a 2-lane road was expanded to three, leaving residents with no alternative, then let development not come. Nuff said

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Madam telepathic. The Lagos state govt knows better than everyone else. There is no point consulting. Project management that considers the interest and buy-in of stakeholders is foolishness to lagos state govt. see ur logic?

tpiah:
^^ask the people travelling ife-ibadan route how much difference adding an extra lane made.

I am really surprised that people like you seem to be supporting this display of rascality by the govt. This is total disdain for those that elected them. What you are saying now is that a govt comes with one cooked up "PPP" and says certain parts of the state can no longer be accessed for free, without any alternative and you expect people to celebrate?

If they want PPP , let them build the 4th Mainland bridge and collect even 2000 per trip. The difference then will be that people will still have options. But for this one I want to say NO-WAY.

bump

This thread will remain alive till the elections.

SanFranc:
As usual, we can't fight the man with the weapon. Its too late to fight Fashola or Tinubu on this issue, the only request we have is for them to make the toll affordable. The N100 - N250 per trip speculation is way too high. If the fee is affordable, we'll get used to it before long especially if our travel time is considerably reduced.
Fashola should also try and complete the Lekki -Ikoyi bridge as well the Famolo bridge extention in order to reduce the horrible traffic between 1004 flats and Falomo bridge.

You are joking, right? They(Fashola and his Oga) are accountable to the electorate. There is simply no justification for adding one lane to a 2-lane road and start tolling it for 30yrs. PPP my foot.

PPP should have started with a completely new alternative road.

All these peope wey dey vote for internet. I hope you guys will remember to register sha?

safariman:
@ na so
I don't have problem with that as long as her background included Economics and not some psycology classes

answer:

President Goodluck Jonathan has announced the appointment of Professor Precious Kassey Garba as his Chief Economic Adviser.

According to a statement issued by the Special Adviser to the President on Media and Publicity, Mr. Ima Niboro, in Abuja on Friday, until her appointment, she has served as Professor of Economics and Dean, Faculty of The Social Sciences at the University of Ibadan.

She was also Vice-President of the Nigerian Economic Society (NES) between 2003 and 2007.

Prof. Garba is a recipient of several prizes in academic research and author of many research works on economics.

The statement also said that Jonathan has similarly appointed Prof. Dan Adebiyi as his Special Adviser on Policy Monitoring and Performance Evaluation.

A seasoned policy analyst who has served government in various capacities, Prof. Adebiyi is presently a member of the Presidential Advisory Council. He has his degrees in Political Science, International Relations, and Government and Strategic Studies from the University of Ibadan and the Harvard University, USA.

Both appointments take immediate effect.


http://www.tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/news/1777-jonathan-appoints-new-advisers.html

omoabike:
If you have been following the media reports on this issue, you will know that the people have been complaining from day 1 and what they were promised was that there would be an alternative road which has not yet materialize hence their protest.

My own point even is that , the tolling should be for the alternative road.

Government can not just come and add one lane to a free 2-lane road and begin tolling. That is irresponsibility. I now see the problems we face when we lack credible opposition. Nothing annoys more that the fact that other political parties in the state have turned voiceless.

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Do you have a problem with that?

All our social crusaders are pretending not to see. Why nobody has deemed it fit to get proper interpretation of this action in a competent court still baffles me.

Someone is a staunch IBB supporter
The same person is very sure IBB will win
The same person is confident the election will definitely be rigged and the biggest name wins. I see.

I think your man is now very sure he is not popular with voters. . . . . . you will be more than shocked. JUNE 12 haunts.

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hey, can we leave queen Dora out of this pleaseeeeee?

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Politically it might be suicidal if ACN does not present anyone for presidency thats how AD lost out in 2003. I also think a northerner will be the only appealing candidate. So the ribadu theory looks real to me. But he will definitely not win.

How dull can someone get? Simple instruction people have given you is go, tell GEJ what you just said on facebook.

Do really need everybody to advice govt? This is the first time a president is making it clear that even if i have a physical
cordon around me for security reasons, I am trying to tear down the wall ideologically. let me know your views and how we can better governance.

I hope this woman help place SLS in his rightful place.

Dem no suppose dey use sudanese diploma in bombing studies dey run economy.

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person wey do you dis thing wicked oh

@PapaBrowne
The problem with this your analysis is that even if jonathan leads others in the votes count, he still will not have the mandatory 25% of 2/3 of all states. Hence a run-off is likely and the northern candidate might emerge. Jonathan has to do everything to get atleast 65% of SW votes.

In actual sense , the alternative route is what Govt should have built and tolled.

What is socialist in demanding that a free 27 yr old two-lane road be made 3 lanes for free?

Kobojunkie:
aarggh!! na wa oo!!! I say this be done ALL OVER LAGOS so this can be made FAIR to all!

Gbam. God bless u.

GAR3TH:
there is no such thing as a free meal. if you want development you need to pay for it. plain and simple

A state government built a 2-lane road that brought massive development to a hitherto undeveloped area of the state, after 27 years, the only way a new government responds to the traffic challenges is to  add one lane and concession it for 30 years.

I think in the spirit of equity all other state roads should be upgraded and tolled, afterall the people around lekki axis  pay taxes too. Nonsense.

andromida:
At first i was like Buhari will be a good leader then i noticed his campaign strategy he is just focusing on the north.I believe he is thinking once he wins his campaign in the north then the rest will fall into place.
I would have thot he will be telling the whole country what his plans are by now,trying to convince the south that he isnt so tribalised but he is not doing all that so from what i can see if he becomes president i am afraid most of the resources will be diverted to develop the northern region also i am not sure if he would handle the Nigerdelta issue with necessary sensitivity.

I am also weary that he would magnify ethnic and religious diferrences.Apart from this he looks less corrupt than the rest,looks like a disciplined person.

The answer to the bolded text is not difficult to find. Just do a quick check on where the PTF projects for 8 solid years went to, then you understand better.

His ethnic and religious leanings are far too dangerous for this country , if he becomes president.

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Gbawe don dey turn to comedian small, small

If Abba-Aji makes a false claim like this against the NA. I expect them(NA) to come out and state the exact date when it was passed to the president. But Gbawe already knows who is telling a lie. later dem go say na dem be broad-minded progressives.

On the issue of only card carrying members voting in primaries, I dont understand how that works against jonathan alone.

One thing you want to ask is , how long did it take the NA to scrutinise and pass the bill? If the president's endorsement is required, at least you expect him to take sometime to look at the ammendments the NA may have made to the bill. We know we are running out of time but a 3-5 day check by the president will not be too much for an important bill like this. HABA

As for the source you asked for :
http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/9918-no-preferential-treatment-for-presidential-aspirants-pdp-explains-delay-in-release-of-election-guidelines-electoral-bill-president-just-received-copy-tuesday-abba-aji

question:

Gbawe:
Maybe so. It would not be different to how , for example, an anti-corruption crusader monitors the actions of those who are corrupt .Now , kindly comment on why Jonathan is holding up the announcement of election dates, when time is already badly against INEC, with how he is failing to assent to a bill that promotes internal democracy within Political Parties as we have all been clamouring for . We all know that free and fair elections is the way forward for our nation starting from transparent conducts within the political Parties.

Answer:

But the Special Adviser to the President on National Assembly Matters, Senator Mohammed Abba-Aji, told the Nigerian Tribune, on Wednesday, that the clean draft of the bill only got to the presidency late on Tuesday.

He said the bill had been taken to the president’s table on Wednesday, but the president had to attend the Federal Executive Council (FEC) meeting.

“I can confirm to you that the new electoral bill is with the president now. It got to the presidency on Tuesday and it is now on the president’s table. But he cannot look at it today (Wednesday) because of the FEC meeting. I can assure you that the president has no problems with the bill,” Senator Abba-Aji said.

He added that though the National Assembly had passed the bill three weeks ago, the lawmakers did not transmit the bill to the president immediately.

Hope we are ?

which kind wayo be dis na? Abeg my state Bayelsa is too low. Abi una zone dis one too?

jamace:
^^^ What about you? Which camp do you belong?

Wishing the amazon many prosperous years ahead.

I am a fulltime Dora Fan. I know she , like all of us has her flaws though.

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I am against IBB in every sense.

His name should not appear on the ballot sheet even for the least popular party, I know of Dele Giwa,gloria okon, C130,june 12, gulf war windfall, however I dont seem to understand this Vatsa angle to the crimes he committed. Are we saying there was no coup plot by Vatsa?

OMO IBO:
where are the Dora bashers??
Oya ooo.
The floor is open

Yes o. everybodi come inside. dem go soon show. dis na better market for dem.