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This is what we should be protesting all over Nigeria. Not fuel increase. Nigeria has to be intact before peoplecan hope to enjoy free fuel

EMANY 01:
@ T8SKY
Don't spilt hairs over this matter,the treath/marching order that BH issued was to all southerners no exceptions.
As i pointed out in an earlier thread,  the core northern ethnic/religious extremistswhich include BOKO HARAM are equal opportunity killers they make no discriminations with their victims you just have to be  a southerner not yoruba not igbo not itsekiri or efic or whatever they will punch your ticket when  their period(to kill) starts if you are found hanging around.
I know that a good number of those killed in the Apostolic Church attack were yorubas which is why i consider the statement by OPC (an act of self denial) just as clownish as that of OHANEZE telling their people to stay back.
How many people have the means to defend themselves from gunmen?How many have the skill to use those means?
Folks these people are in denial.

pls tell him.tnx

Ilamina:
Igbo and yoruba are both popular

Yes, but of the two Igbo is by far more.

T8SKY:

Just to round off with you: Igbos are documenting their deaths in the North. Where is the documentation of Yoruba death? Or do you think Yorubas are not being killed in the North? Dying unsung and unnamed

T8ksy:
And did you bother to read the title of the post that said "Yorubas will not fold hands"- OPC?

What did its ibo counterpart said? Don't leave until we get intelligence report. Just like oju-iku sent ibos back to the north after the first wave of pogrom by the northerners.

Of course, many ibos have left already - to abuja or yorubaland yet another 17 ibos were gunned down whilst mourning those that were killed after the 3-day ultimatum expired.


If yorubas are kidnapping ibos in yorubaland then pi.ss off back to your "land of the rising sun".

So there are no ibos fleeing the north to yorubaland? No, they stopped at abuja where they get slaughtered again. Case in question is the man who lost 4 daughters in the latest

attack by BK at a village in abuja. The man fled kano during the last attacks but instead of taking his family back to his "Land brimming with milk and honey" he chosed to relocate to

abuja where his family met their waterloo.

Show me the Igbos fleeing the North for Yorubaland? Until then, it is not worth discussing with a blatant liar.
Like Igbos, yorubas have been killed in the North, OPC is still planning how not to fold their hands.
Do you know those killled in Deeper life church? Do you know those killed in the Apostolic Church? Those are Yoruba churches, remember?

You see? Mere protest they are already betraying. How will they do when it comes to delaring secession from the North? Be careful other southern people. You have a bigger snake than you thought.

sheyguy:
Permit me to answer your question pls.
The killings by boko haram is suppose to be mainly an affair of our security agencies and Gej to handle.
Like oil resource "marginalisation", the people who r worse hit (according to beaf and SS/SE apologists) by BH are not protesting for it probably cos they are too enlightened for such. Dön't u think the westerners and northerners protesting will amount to an attempt to unsit a presidemt the ss/se are firmly behind?

Where is your proof that Igbos are not protesting the oil subsidy
All those Igbos in Lagos, Kano, London and US protest are from the moon, right? Some of you guys are so shallow-brained that it is difficult discussing with you.

Acn Governors Declare Position On Subsidy

The op is definitely an illiterate who cannot read betwen the lines. Declare ko, didirin ni.

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Chyz*:
Its funny how these reporters are trying to cause strife in the East.

Stop it already. The victims of BH should always be properly identified by names and ethnicity. We are keeping record.

T8ksy:
@ bolded,

Yes you have our assurance as long as you don't venture into our region in the course of your "dealing" with the north.

I bet you, no yoruba man worth his salt will still remain in the north after they gave you all an ultimatum like they did. But see as the ibo man is talking about protecting his

business in another man's turf.

Do tell me how many yorubas are in the SE and how many ibos are in yorubaland?

Most of the ibos who fled the north rather than go back to their villages opted to come to yorubaland. Yet you ingrates have no kind words for us.

There are no Igbos fleeing the North to Yorubaland. Please provide the evidence for that. It does not matter how many Yorubas are in SE, the fact is that they are there and living peacefully. It is a matter of population. Nobody kidnaps the Yorubas in Igboland like Yorubas kidnap Igbos in Yorubaland.
There are still millions of Yorubas in the North as we speak. Why are they still there?
Biafra did not attack Yorubaland. Biafra aimed to attack Lagos (Federal territory from which the North and Yoruba were attacking them).
How sure is your assurance abi na like Awo assurance?

Exodus: Yoruba’ll not fold hands –OPC

As tension grips the country over activities of the dreaded Boko Haram sect and resultant exodus of people to their regions, the Oodua Peoples’ Congress (OPC) has said if there was any evidence of molestation of the Yoruba in the North, it would react accordingly. The spiritual leader of the congress, Dr. Fredrick Fasehun, told Sunday Sun yesterday that for now the congress had no evidence that the Yoruba were fleeing the North but insisted that if it happens, the congress would not fold its hands.

T8KSY Did you read the above from Fasehun? Why are Yorubas in the North not leaving or do you want to claim there are no Yorubas in the North? Many Igbos have already left as you can read from many threads here.

T8ksy:
Haba! My ibo brothers, wetin dey do una? Abi dem tak una region swear for you ni? Why don't you all want to rush back to your "land of the rising sun"

and turn it to the "japan of africa"? The indigenes say, dem no want you in their region, una dey talk say, you wan defend yourselves. Na bi force?

Na now u know sey u bi "nigerians" but when it suits your delusional minds you go on an assault course of our eardrums with tales of what biafra would have been now had it

been actualised. Oh well, here's your chance- go back to your region and develop it instead of been slaughtered gratuitiously in another man's region.

If you assure us you will not betray and stab us in the back like before, we will be glad to be rid of Nigeria. Now we are hesitant to make that move because you will most certainly gang up with the North to bring us back. Just leave us with the North, don't interfere and see how we do it. Okay?
BTW, what are Yorubas doing in the North and also in the East and SS? Are you a hypocrite?

Supported 100%
+ South South Republic (for those unwilling to go with Biafra)

What did they declare here? No for, no against. See people sitting on the fence, AS USUAL. Bloody mofos

''Nigerians made a very big mistake not electing General Muhammadu Buhari'' -El Rufai in 2012
Rewind to 2010 ''Buhari is unelectable'' -El Rufai in 2010.

El Rufai is a worthless piece of shyyte.
What double speak, what flip flopping, all in a space of 2 years?

Chyz*:
Nchara, God Bless you. May your days be fruitful and abundant.

You too, bro. Just doing my public-service bit. Igbos in the North have no excuse really to remain there except they know they can defend themselves. There is so much they can do in Igbo land. I agree it will be tough at first, but given the Igbo spirit, they will make it with time.

My message again: sell off and come back home.

Ohanaeze to kinsmen: Don’t quit the North

I am sorry, but this is the most eediotic advise I have read in recent times.

And the Igbo armed robbers, if any in the North, should please remain in the North and rob them silly. You are armed so you can fight. No need to return home

Oh! I forgot to add that Igbos are sports and entertainment people, so some of the displaced can find employment in sports, Nollywood and some can lend their talents in music. Oliver the Coque, Osita, Osadebe and Warrior among others need replacements

Please help educate our people. Circulate far and wide. Thanks.

Photo of a small scale yet lucrative catfish farm somewhere in Eastern Nigeria (exact location withheld for personal reasons).

Ndigbo in Northern Nigeria: practical steps to regain your livelihood as you return


It is no longer news that Igbos have been massacred in the North since the spate of Boko Haram attacks.
It is no longer news that Boko Haram has asked southerners (Igbos included) to leave the North
It is no longer news that the Federal government, northern states governments, and the security agencies cannot guarantee the safety of southerners (especially of Igbos) in the North.
It is no longer news that some Igbos have since relocated out of the North
However, it is also not news that many Igbos are reluctant to leave the North due to factual claims of investments in the North and the massive dislocation of livelihood that such unplanned relocation would bring about.

Many Igbos in the North are business people and their families. Others are federal civil servants, school teachers, university lecturers and staff, bank staff (one of the Mubi Boko Haram victims was a bank manager) members of the security agencies (military and paramilitary), clergy men, students and family dependents. A small population of pr/osti/tu/tes would also be present especially in sharia non-compliant areas.  Since there are likely to be few manufacturing industries in the North, I would wager that few Igbos are employed there in this sector.
For such people who for reasons of investments are unwilling to leave, it is a matter of choice; choice because they are adult enough to take life-changing decisions.
Your return to the south will bring about life-changing circumstances especially for those who were born and raised in the North. 
Sadly, however, the same is true if you choose to remain in the North: your relationship with your Muslim neighbors will never be the same again. And if you survive now, you may not be as lucky next time.

With this background in mind, let us take a look at the endeavors you may pursue in the south (SE) to get back your life. It is definitely going to be slow and difficult, but the nature of the time requires that you start almost from the scratch, with enough patience in your survival arsenal.

Business people returning to the south:

Are you are trader merely buying and selling and you are afraid of competition from the established traders in the SE?
You can veer into other areas where competition is less stiff or you can open shop in rural areas where competition ranges from zero to less stiff.  If you open shop in Aba, Nnewi, Onitsha and other large cities, you may not make it unless you have a good business sense and an exceptional marketing strategy. There are many rural villages in Igbo land or surrounding non-Igbo areas in daily need of 100s of small goods and services.

On a second thought, you do not have to be a trader buying and selling. In Igbo land animal production has somewhat been neglected. Apart from countable commercial poultry farms scattered here and there, there are virtually no sources of meat (cow, goat, sheep, rabbit etc) for the teeming masses in Igbo land to feed on. If Nigeria separates today, how will Igbos obtain their meat? Yes, they could import these things but can the rich Igbo traders who are displaced in the North engage in some form of animal production?  How about engaging in snail farming; how about fish farming; how about bee farming for honey production? Honey is a hot cake that will easily get an export market. Animal production is less land-requiring and less drudgery than crop production (especially if compared on the basis of semi or non-mechanized agriculture). Yes, initially it will not bring the quick money that buying and selling brings, but you are assured of a continuous safety net once you begin to harvest your animals and sell them. How about mushroom farming (takes just weeks to begin to sell your products)? You can set up these things in the confines of your family backyard garden. These days, people do cat fish farming in tanks or small wells (see photo). Tap into one or more of those and with time you see your fortune change.

Like the rest of Nigeria, there are many rural or semi-urban areas in Igbo land with no potable water. So how about establishing bore holes for commercial purposes? Water for domestic use, water for services such as car washes, etc. How about establishing clothes laundry services? Agreed this is something I have not easily come across in Igbo land as most people launder their clothes themselves –using house maids/boys, family members, etc. However, a good marketer can convince rich Igbos (and there are millions of them needing convincing) on why they should not lauder their clothes themselves. Or, how about importing and selling washing machines, something Igbo traders are not into for now?
How about establishing small (corporate) security agencies to man the houses and business of the rich or the 100s of markets in Igbo land? Keep in mind that the Hausas who are the ones currently involved in security of houses and markets would have all returned to the North, leaving this billion naira enterprise for the picking.

Like other parts of Nigeria, there are many villages in the SE without adequate daily and safer (safer than Okada) transport systems to move between them and to the urban areas. How about a bus or taxi service to serve these remote villages?
Like other parts of Nigeria, there are likely some remote villages in the SE without electricity. How about setting up a commercial video center with nice Nollywood and foreign movies where you run your own generator? Okay cost of fuel has just gone up, but you’d be surprised at the patronage you get.

How about currency exchange services? Most Nigerians living abroad are Igbos, yet most if not all foreign currency changers (even in Igboland) are Hausa.

So you see, life is not only about buying and selling; there is a myriad of things you can do.

For civil servants, how about asking for transfer to safe places?  How about asking your governors to help push this? For bank staff, how about asking for staff swap? Or are there no northerners working in banks in Igbo land?

For primary and secondary school teachers, how about seeking for teaching appointments in Igbo schools? If no spot for you, how about you pooling with others to establish private schools that parents can bring their wards for extra mural lesson? Agreed you cannot do any practical science under such conditions, but you can very well do text book-grooming (theory-only studies). You can rent church buildings or village civic centers for this purpose. With time you can, working together, establish a more befitting, government-approved school.

For university lecturers, I do not believe that Igbo state universities or federal universities in Igbo land are overstaffed. There must be a spot for you somewhere.

For the students, [/b]how about applying for transfer to southern universities? If no chance due to university carrying capacity-issues, how about studying in other African countries (if you cannot afford studying in the developed countries)? It is common knowledge that Nigerian universities (all of them) rank below many other universities in Africa. Over many years, no Nigerian university makes the first 30 in any conceivable ranking methodology in Africa. So you lose nothing studying in Uganda, Kenya, South Africa, Ghana, Sudan Togo, Benin, Cameroun, Tanzania (most, if not all, countries with universities rated better than any in Nigeria) among others. You will be surprised that the tuition and overall cost of living are less in some of these countries than in Nigeria. Moreover, you gain some international perspective studying outside of Nigeria. You learn some useful French too, if in francophone country.

[b]For doctors and nurses, there are 100s of 1000s of sick Igbos that need your services. How about moving your equipment down south? If you were not the owner of your facility in the North, you can start off in Igbo land by setting up a small cottage health facility with the most basic of equipment to offer basic health services. You can then make you existence known to the media and to charities and NGOs anywhere in the world. You’d be surprised how CNN, FOX News MSNBC etc will carry your story and bring help to you with the understanding that you are helping humanity with almost nothing, having lost all in northern Nigeria.

For the family (your young ones), how about bringing them home? That way, you not only save their lives, but you make them to begin to learn and appreciate their own culture.

For those unemployed [/b]who for reasons best known to them must live outside Igbo land, how about obtaining visas to any other country? How about sneaking out to other countries (hopefully you don’t get caught in the process)? How about applying for asylum? Just anything to take you away from northern Nigeria?

[b]For pr/osti/tu/tes, are there no Igbo men to tango with?

[b]For soldiers and policemen [/b]of Igbo origin, you are armed. How about watching your back and shooting your way to safety? Or you declare AWOL and return home safely.

There is an Igbo saying that life is greater than what it requires to live it. Take heed of the warnings. Sell off now that you can still do so and run away, far away, from the madness that northern Nigeria has become.

Musiwa:

Thanks but you have not answered my question
Why are Nigerians (southerners, Igbos, Yorubas, Niger Deltans, northern christians, moderate northern muslims, muslims in general, christians, pagans, whareva) not out on the streets protesting the increasing killings of innocent human beings?

Andre Uweh:
Nchara
By saharan African coutries, I mean contries that border the sahara desert for example Sudan, Tchad, Niger, Mali, Libya, Algeria etc.
Apart fron this countries and the U.K, it is Igbo all the way.

Okay. Of course those are islamic countries and you expect no less.

I met a 70 years old American man recently and we got talking. He asked if I was Igbo and I said yes and he replied '' I knew it once I saw you''
He told stories of Nigeria and Biafra war and the Igbos
He had worked on a malaria program in Kaduna in the 70s and had travelled Ibadan, Lagos, Kano, Jos, Enugu and Calabar among other places extensively
He is just one among thousands that hold the same opinion
In Europe (may be apart from UK as you said) the name Nigeria is synonymous with Igbo.

This has nothing to do with language or traditional attire.

Andre Uweh:
I agree with you. But in some places it is Hausa; Yoruba is some places.
In the U.K, it is the Yoruba language.
In In Saharan African countries, it is Hausa.
Rest of the world, it is Igbo.

Not true at the bolded

You travel to Kenya, Rwanda, SA, Cameroun and even Ghana etc, etc: Once you identify as Nigerian they ask you if you are Igbo

Do this simple experiment yourself and get back with your finding.

From this thread I can say a number of things:

-Igbos have an overt enemy: hausa fulani and islam. It is easier dealing with such an enemy
-Igbos have a covert enemy: their big neighbour down south. It is more difficult dealing with such enemies.
-I have noticed the insinuations of people like Tpia suggesting covertly that Igbos in the north are the ones leading BH to other Igbos. I am not surprised at such insinuation.
-Igbos should not fight a war on account of Igbos living in, and being killed, in the North. We should pray for them and see how we can help them relocate.
-We should in fact ask our respective governors to relocate them NOW. Anyone unwilling to leave should be told the consequence in plain terms: we will not fight for you when they kill you.
-The killings should be protested by Igbos in Igboland and by Igbos all over the world. Other Nigerians do not care about you, except those married into Igbo families.
-Igbos will and should fight only when they bring the war to Igboland
-All Igbos here should tell their relatives living outside Igboland (especially those living outside the former eastern region and Delta) to reduce their investments in those places. If we survive this current onslaught we should be better prepared for future ones.

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Shebi some ppl were asking for reciprocal attack.

Igbos did it when you threatened the Northerners to leave your region.

Now their rage will me melted upon innocent Southerners esp Igbos in the North.

All I am asking is that whatever it is that is going on should not target the Yorubas and other innocent groups. Keep it between yourselves.

May God and Allah protect us.

What are these ppl avenging? 99% votes from the SE for GEJ? Or the boasting that 40% of the north is owned by Igbos? or what? A business that took years to build goes down in one day.

All Southerners return home. It's obvious that Northerners cannot differentiate one Southern tribe from another. Even Yoruba muslims are endanger.

Let's also focus on those evil doers who like to claim boko-harams to achieve their nefarious goals.

I'm even more worried about Ekiti state with their high Fulani population.

It's hard to even understand what is going on anymore; is it religious? is it tribal? is it political? what is it?

Ileke Idi: Can you supply your facts on this claim (bolded)? You may be laughing now, but like someone warned you, there is no innocent bystander.

Why are Nigerians not protesting against the killing of innocent people by islamic terrorists in the name of Boko Haram?

I am at a loss here. Is it that the incessant gruesome loss of lives don't matter much to Nigerians?

Which is more important between a gallon of fuel and a human life?

Igbo is the most popular ethnic group outside Nigeria
Everywhere I have been to - and I have been to quite a large number of countries - people ask me first '' where are you from?
Once they know I am Nigerian, they ask me next, are you Igbo (Ibo)?

Several reasons may be given for this:

1. The Biafra war which brought Igbo to the global limelight (the elderly people with whom I have discussed end up with Biafran stories which even I don't know of)
2. Nollywood, which is essentially Igbo stuff
3. Igbos are the most travelled Nigerians
4. Chinua Achebe's book, Things Fall Apart, the most widely read book coming out of Africa and which exposed Igbo culture of yore.

Meanwhile enjoy video of this Igbo guy singing in Mandarin (Chinese Language). The New York Times describes him as the most African superstar in China

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-0zWA3KDuoE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y19vv0ZEMPU&feature=player_embedded

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/arts/music/hao-ge-a-nigerian-becomes-a-pop-star-in-china.html?pagewanted=all

I hope Boko Haram will not join the gang of protesters and unleash their bombs in the ensuing confusion.

Beaf I actually wish you were Reno. Let your enemies hug a fat wet transformer. Even their parents will not miss them.