₦airaland Forum

jason123:
Yam? Go to Kogi, Kwara and Benue to tell them about Yam! You are talking about just one state and I just stated three states (each one is about the same size, if not bigger than the entire SE). I am talking about mass production.

Dude, the SE is productive but not more than the NC or SW. You know it and I know it. Every evidence available supports my argument. Ogun state alone is about to be the largest limestone producer in West-africa (according to dangote, the richest man in Africa). Benue state has oil. I can go on and on.

Again, the SE is productive but not more than the NC or SW. But we have mutual respect for eachother in the South.

^++ The usual suspects will call others unproductive and parasites, while they are the real parasites. I'll like to know of any major goods produced in Ijaw, Isoko or other  areas of the ND. These are the laziest parasites in Nigeria. A resourceful businessman from a different region is working on a  plan to develop the biggest fishing corporation in Africa based in the region, while the lazy fools have spent over $1trillion of stolen derivation monies with absolutely nothing to show for it. They will promptly call this businessmen parasites once they start supplying fish to all of Africa and beyond.

Beaf:
Ridiculous stuff!
You produce nothing, yet you are asking those who provide your food and shelter to provide answers?
Oghene me biko ooo! Shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!

You are making a fool of yourself o. According to you, the Niger Delta region provides food and shelter to the rest of the country. Infact the Niger Delta region supplies the Fulanis in the North with Beaf, vegetables and onions.

@Beaf, once again, you've come out empty. No answers, just noise as typical of lazy folks. You people are the parasites. You produce absolutely nothing, you collect billions in stolen derivation funds and you have the audasity to call others parasites! olodo

Beaf:
And the only "wealth" from your end is human blood spilt by cattle rearers, boko haram bombs and 10 million almajiri's.
You should be bloody quiet when people are talking about contribution to the nation.

I thought as much. Once you are cornered you try to change the question or topic, but you forget that that tactic does not work with me. So I ask you again: Please name a single producer of oil in your region? What wealth have you produced with the $1trillion derivation theft you've illegally obtained over the years?  The only wealth you've produced has been for your governors and their goons.  

Let me quote a sensible NL Me_aboki: "One would wonder why Southerners, like beaf, who were neither responsible for putting the oil under the ground in the first place nor subsequently for bringing it out, should have the audacity to call Northerners (who apparently are by far more responsible for producing this oil wealth) parasites and lazy."

Governors from other regions are also guilty of similar massive theft but people like you will continue to allow bigotry and tribalism to becloud your objectivity.

Beaf:
Imagine producing 91% of the nations wealth only to be called fishermen and yamirin by ingrates.

Please name a single producer of oil or any other wealth from your area. You people should be flattered by being called fishermen because you are sorry fishermen who cannot even mass produce fish despite your proximity to the Atlantic. You people should be supplying all of Africa with your stolen $1trillion derivation over the years.

91% ko, 191% ni.

Feed on the text below, then watch a rejoinder to the video the OP posted. Hilarious!

the Ibos / Hebrews of Nigeria are not from Ishmael. they are from Gad/ Ogadimma tribe of Israel. they are not alone in the journey, the rest of them the ica Ibos and Qua Ibos/ Akwa ibom are all jews from different tribes of Israel, even the Ijaws are of Benjamin/ Njemanze. all these groups makes up the Biafra/ephraim people. we also have the ijebu ibos. the Biafrans never came to west Africa as a person but as people. they were many Hebrews trying to escape from the Romans who seek to destroy them.that is how and what brought them to west Africa to hide from the oppressors.

Enjoy:

[flash=300,300]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=998xbd61TxE[/flash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=998xbd61TxE

You people should register on that SA forum and bombard them with posts to show them that you don't appreciate their ungratefulness.

Dede1:
As matter of fact Rami Fani-Kayode had to team up with Bode Thomas and Fredrick Rotomi Willams in one room law office in order to have access to law books. Maybe the law firms opened by men such Eric Moore and another of Williams were regarded as in Sierra Leone.

Be fair, that could not have been a one room law office.

Its amazing how cowards march for treasonous "freedom" thousands of miles away from the homeland. make una come march for Onitsha na.

Dede1:
Should I also remind you that Anthony Enahoro had moved motion for independence in 1953? So Remi Fani-Kayode’s 1958 motion was a backbencher as far as I am concerned. 

It is very funny most lazy historians and writers of colonial era, mainly Europeans and returnees, thought southern protectorate and later Nigeria started and ended in Lagos. I urge you to work very hard to expel such deceptive indoctrination form your system.

You people love to attempt to rewrite history so as to somehow make your people appear wise and well accomplished. You appear to have the inability to comprehend simple English in the process. I repeat, in July 1958 RFK, Femi's father, successfully moved the motion for Nigeria's independence in the Federal House of Assembly. Enahoro's motion which was made in 1953 along with several others before then, were never accepted in the House of Assembly. Enahoro's motion failed woefully, hence the credit goes to the elder Fani-Kayode.

Err, What was the name of Louis Mbanefo's law firm which you claim was opened in 1937? These lies will get you nowhere. There was no indigenous law firm in Nigeria until 1948! Mbanefo worked for the colonialists who eventually made him a judge.

I noticed that you are now soft pedaling by qualifying your "backstabbing" label with the word "political". I will not try to defend Fani-Kayode senior, but I maintain that Femi Fani-Kayode, is not in the same league as the RFK. Femi most probably belongs in jail.

ikeyman00:
beaf

u mind him; the man is an irritant

Who is the above intellectual midget of a dummy?

I'm not surprised that you gullible fools are buying this government face saving story, hook line and sinker. SMH

Beaf:
Evidence doesn't bear you out.
The man simply thought his explosives wouldnt be discovered, afterall he had been able to get past South African customs.

Oh boy, you are becoming lazy o. Of course the man thought his explosives wouldn't be discovered. The issue is that the man is simply a smuggler who did not do the customary payoff which you people do. He is not a terrorism operative and the cheap publicity that the customs agents are getting is just that. You and Oga should go and decisively deal with BH and get real publicity from that.

If anyone thinks that a terrorism operative or other mischief makers will try to smuggle explosives into the country through the airport without properly settling the corrupt customs officials, he/she should have his/her head examined.

Those explosives are for legitimate uses and the importer was simply trying to cut corners. These incompetent law enforcers should focus on the porous borders instead of wasting time on cheap publicity.

For many narrow minded posters on this thread, bigotry, tribalism, sectionalism, and outright self hatred, have taken over their objectivity. These fools are calling for the south to unite in the fight against BH, while ignoring the fact that BH is an enemy of all Nigerians and have actually murdered more Northerners than any other group. When the chips are finally exposed, you may be shocked to learn that major financiers of BH hail from the SS and other southern regions.

I am beginning to suspect that gross incompetence, coupled with the same bigotry and narrow mindedness, are what advice the inability of the President to resourcefully, promptly and decisively deal with this BH menace. Shame on you people. SMH

Imagine a President disgracing the whole country by bringing in foreign forces to conduct law enforcement raids and kill Nigerians in the process!!

Dede1: I have warned you to turn a page on real historical facts. The son could be better than the father in this case of non-consequential comparison except for amount of money embezzled. RFK was a professional political backstabber and turncoat.

Must you be an expert at distorting historical facts without shame? How can you say that Femi Fani-Kayode is better than RFK and them call RFK a professional political backstabber? Are you aware of the fact that in July 1958 RFK, Femi's father, successfully moved the motion for Nigeria's independence in the Federal House of Assembly. Do you even know that the man set up the first indigenous Nigerian law firm in 1948? Does this sound lie a political backstabber to you?

[quote author=noisebrainless link=topic=888860.msg10367720#msg10367720 date=1331339229]
Now the parasite is scared, we will take back every oil blocks which were stolen by your thieving fathers through the use guns and command of tanks,it's only a matter of time, you might run but you can't hide. DR BOKO FRANKENSTEIN.[/quote]Weaklings and Mosquitoes flex their muscles on the internet. You can keep your inland oil blocks and drill until you suck your land dry, for all I care. You however have no more claim on offshore resources than any other Nigerian. olodo

From Lagos to Abuja by road, not a single police checkpoint!!!! Only the customs thieves were out there carrying on with their extortions. Kudos to the IGP

Femi Fani-Kayode is no Remilekun Fani-Kayode. No amount of goodwill generated from his latest antics will prevent him from answering to his EFCC charges of laundering various sums of money totaling N230 million through some of his aides, his wife, Regina Fani-Kayode and daughter. barawo banza

maclatunji:
If the British had any respect for Nigeria and its military, they should have allowed Nigerian security agencies deal with the situation in our country and not bring-in their own "highly trained and equipped special operations force" to engage in what has proven to be an unwise fiasco that has led to the unfortunate death of these two foreigners.

mclatunji, you are on point here. The botched military operation caused the killing of Nigerian citizens by foreign troops who had the authorization of Nigeria's President to do so. This is a shameful and impeachable act by the President. SMH

NorthSharp:
For all we ordinary Northerners care, after we achieve our ultimate goal of total separation from you through the SBC, YOUR ND MILITANTS SHOULD AMBUSH AND ASSASSINATE EACH ONE OF THE THIEVING RULING ELITE FROM THE NORTH, AND OTHER REGIONS, WHO WOULD CONTINUE TO CLAIM 'HIS' OIL WELL IN YOUR REGION.

We would NOT mourn them if your militants mutilate their worthless corpses and throw the pieces into your waters that they help to pollute so badly, through their insatiable greed for the transient things of the material world!

This SBC (word coined by Dede1, an unrepentant separatist) you guys are advocating will essentially land you in prison because of its treasonous nature. It does not take a rocket scientist to note that a peaceful breakup is impossible because of the complexities of the relationship between various interst groups in the country. Besides, this is the lazy man's way out. It is suicidal to call for SBC rather than working through the existing system to make a change.

Finally, calling for the murder of anyone is against both Islamic and Christian principles. I understand the frustration but violence is not the answer.

gidiMonsta:
I find it very annoying that the so-called educated Nigerians can call for the dissolution of this country, when we'll only end up inheriting the same corrupt system.

Let's say for instance we decide to carve this country up based on meaningless differences, here's the anticipated result:

Northern Nigeria (or Arewa Republic) - will not differ from the likes of Chad and Niger Republic.
Middle Belt (if they don't go with the north) - will most likely be like Central African Republic, an obscure nation in Africa.
Biafra (SE) - a landlocked monstrosity even worse than Cameroon
South-South - will end up like Cabinda (Eastern Angola) or Equitorial Guinea
Odua Republic (S/W) - probably gonna be worse than Benin Rep. and Togo

My question is this: why give up a country with the potential to rival Brazil and India? Secession is not the answer, don't let this thieving politicians deceive us into making the biggest mistakes of our lives. Our war should be directed at corruption not each other, take a cue from success stories such as Spain and Italy not failures like South Sudan (where tribal warlords have started anoda war).

^+1000

Dede1:
I am very impressed with the Governor of Niger State. I have being reading the utterances of the governor for a period of time now and he has not missed a bit. The revenue accrued from off-shore wells belonged to all Nigerians and revenue derivation formula must reflect this simple understandable fact.

Any attack or military action within the 200 nautical mile off Nigeria coast is considered an attack on Nigeria not attack on Cross River, Rivers, Bayelsa, Delta, Akwa Ibom, Ondo, Ogun or Lagos State. States or regions or provinces are not recognized as an entity within international circles when territorial boundaries are the subject matter.  

The allocation derivation formula should only apply to revenue accrued from on-shore crude oil wells and only to the littoral states.

^+1000 This is a very honest post.  When the derivation formula is applied correctly, some of the lazy ND states will understand that they've been short changing the rest of us for some time now. With almost $1trilliion pumped into the so-called ND states in the past 10 - 15 years, the region should have been more developed than Abu-Dhabi by now. Bunch of lazy fools.

You promptly destroyed your otherwise wise utterances by the one below:

Dede1:
As much as I agree with the Niger State governor on the off-shore issue and revenue allocation that stems from it, I do not support SNC because it is a waste of time and resources. Anything short of disintegration talk is foo1’s delight.

Please tell me how an this disintegration with its accompanying bloodshed is better than true federalism, where each state would control its own resources, with the exception of those already developed using the assets of the federal government and offshore resources?

Why are you people exposing what you should be collectively ashamed of? SMH

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[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=888860.msg10353126#msg10353126 date=1331163647]Heh.

Then perhaps it is indeed best to pursue secession.  

That can most certainly be placed on the table as well.

Be careful what you ask for. . . you just might get it.[/quote]Secession on the table? That's impossible, the NASS will never address a treasonable issue like that. If you doubt, you people can go ahead and declare your secession and see where it will get you. ekt_bear, you of all people should have learnt from the civil war. abi una never sober ni?

@T8ksy, its best to stay on the right side of the law. olodo

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=888860.msg10353084#msg10353084 date=1331162887]Not a penny of offshore resources should you get.

Everything in the sea up to 200 miles or so (whatever the distance the law of the sea says) belongs to the states in question, not some dudes closer to the Sahara desert than to the sea.

Devilish creatures, ndu_chucks and the rest of these abokis.[/quote]"The Law of the Sea Convention defines the rights and responsibilities of [b]nations [/b]in their use of the world's oceans, establishing guidelines for businesses, the environment, and the management of marine natural resources. " The keyword in the last sentence is "nations". Nigeria is the only nation in question here. When seccessionists succeed in carving out their countries, we can revisit the issue. For now, NASS will address the inequity and injustice inherent in the current derivation formula. Guess who holds the majority of the votes?  

@Ngodigha1, the issue is on the legitimate table. A bill will be introduced to right the derivation wrong if you people continue your impotent threats.

[quote author=re@lchange link=topic=888860.msg10352750#msg10352750 date=1331158098][size=14pt]SOVEREIGN NATIONAL CONFERENCE: North set for showdown[/size]


“I am not against the principle of derivation because it is a Constitutional Provision. The Appeal Court only ceded the derivation revenue accruable from oil wells within the on-shore to the littoral states and the Supreme Court has equally made a pronouncement on this issue. It is therefore wrong for government at the centre not to honour the Supreme Court Judgment.”[/quote]I've been telling you lazy people who have been yelling, parasite, 100% resource control, e.t.c, that you have no claim whatsoever on the offshore oil greater than that of any other Nigerian from any other state.  You have to fight a war and defeat the rest of us before you can lay claim on 100% offshore oil. Its time to start sharing offshore oil based on population - the fairest way to do it.

You can have 100% resource control of resources located within your state, that is only fair. No fisherman in the ND can claim anything far away in the Atlantic where their wooden boat cannot reach. By the time we sit down and redo this derivation, you people may regret calling others parasites.  When we request "May the real parasites stand up", you people may be the responders.

Dudu_Negro, stop exposing the foolery of these people. What's your problem? Let them carry on.

I was editing my post when you responded. I was hoping to impress with my linguistic skills.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=887083.msg10352515#msg10352515 date=1331155401]You want citizens to be penalized for being in the underclass?  You're asking that the electorate pay a punitive fee before they can exercise their rights?  Do you know the meaning of universal suffrage?  You want to take that away and try what the Americans tried againt free Blacks during Jim Crow - Poll tax?  Let's disenfranchise anyone who does not have enough money or who did not go to the right school and have the right education?  What if someone came along and said only people who have 10 million naira in their bank accounts can exercise the right to vote?  And, oh, by the way and just for kicks, we won't allow anyone named Ndu Chucks to vote either; what a thoroughly indecipherable name.  

A Poll Tax!  I never! [/quote]If you take a second look at my post you'll note that there is nothing elitist about it.  My idea raises billions of naira that would go towards educating the electorate who continue to be marginalized by you people in power. No one will come forward and say only people who have N10m can vote, that is not practical. Truth be told, the idea of universal suffrage is harmful to Nigeria, given the level of illiteracy and lack of education.

My suggestion is not similar to the  tax formerly required for voting in parts of the United States that was often designed to disenfranchise poor people, including African Americans, Native Americans, and white people of non-English descent (e.g., the Irish).  My suggested poll tax will have an opposite effect, it will enfranchise the ignorant and uneducated electorate in Nigeria.  You know, deep down, that the 80-90% of the electorate in Nigeria do not need to be voting at all. If you doubt me, just look at the crop of leaders elected in Nigeria. If it sounds better, lets call it educational polling fee instead of a tax.

P.S. It is impossible to become a billionaire in Nigeria without thinking outside the box.  Gba be!


[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=887083.msg10352515#msg10352515 date=1331155401]And, oh, by the way and just for kicks, we won't allow anyone named Ndu Chucks to vote either; what a thoroughly indecipherable name. [/quote]That name is intrinsically Nigerian. Ah Ah, Ṣe iwo mo ọmọ Ghana kan kan t'onjẹ Ndu ni?

One of the reasons why we continue to elect incompetent criminals in Nigeria is because 80% of the electorate is illiterate, uneducated, and poor beyond belief. Most of these people will vote for the candidate who pays them N500 on voting day.

These people do not understand the issues and for the most part do not even know what's in their own best interests. The solution is to introduce a N5,000 poll tax. If you can't afford to pay this fee you should not be allowed to vote and this idea will eliminate the customary buying of votes by corrupt officials. The N6billion collected during each elected cycle, should be set aside for the education of these unqualified electorate. By the next election cycle, we'll have more qualified people to vote. I'm assuming here that official will collect N7billion and steal N1billion.