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The simple solution to the problem is to call for true federalism.
Under true federalism, the disgraceful monthly trips to Abuja will cease in place of real productivity. I am quite sure the oil producing states would not mind bankrolling a fixed calendar and its modalities for fiscal Independence for all federating units.

. . .who is the mumu that posted this roundabout talk. . . cyclic grammar about theories that has no root on the ground! shyyt!!

If you are hated everywhere you go there are usually 2 reasons for this:
1. You have a behaviour or attitude that is unatural, unfriendly or repulsive.
2. you're cursed

I leave the Igbos to answer the questions themselves.

- Igbos are hated by the SS people be it Ijaw, Efik , ibibio, Itsekiri or uhrobo
- Igbos are hated in the north, that's why they get slaughtered year after year and yet their unquenching desire for money will not let them stay in their cursed land.
- Yorubas have been living and working in Ghana for decades with absolutely no problem but since year 2000 when Igbos start to travel to Ghana, ghanians now hate nigerians like hell! same in Cote d'ivore.
- as soon as Igbos flood South Africa they exported all sorts of crime Igbos are known for, now south africans think every Nigerian they see is either okechukwu,chijioke, chukwudi etc
Anywhere in Africa where you see high populations of Igbos Nigerians will be hated there, countries like Gabon and even malawi now know Nigerians by names such as okechukwu, chidi, dike etc
- Igbos are all over china and other asian countries giving Nigerians bad name everywhere.
- To all Igbos anywhere they go their hosts are always the ingrates, they have words like we feed you, we developed your country for you etc but I don't know of any wise man or race in this entire world busy developing other people's cities and towns for them leaving their own land to rot.

Conclusion Igbos are leeches, anywhere they go their ambition is to take over and put dem chukwudis, okeychukwus, chinenyes etc, many hosts find this attitude repulsive and whenever the hosts want to take their land back Igbos will start to cry foul. Igbos go back to your God forsaken, landlocked, behind end of the world called biafra, try and develop your own lands and stop being parasites and leeches everywhere you go. Millions of people all over the world can't be wrong! and forget about this your jew claim because even jews don't want to associate with Igbos.

. . . .Camerron dont like them, Britain dont like them. . .Russia dont like them, West Africa rejected them, OAU rejected them. . . . really, I dont know anybody that want them. They say they are Jews but Israel dont want them. oh my!!

I love this swagger. . . . whoever posted thanks, I saved it for use in future.

you said wetin concern me with osu? I cant believe you asked that question. Alhj, did you read the article?

we have a human crisis and should be referred to UN, along with other crises that are being reported.

haahahahaha. . . . honestly, ibo need to look in the mirror. If you wonder why everyone reject you its because you reject your own people and karma is on their side. God is fighting for the osu against the callous, cold and inhuman treatment they receive on their own land and meted to them by their own brothers. I spit on ibo freeborn for his shameful ways.

You see how The hediot sultan jumped to save Al Mustapha.
All the bombings going on in the north no concern the goat!

Blackpikin calm down, you yeye!.   boko issued warning that they will fvck him and his emirs up if he doesnt fall in line.  So why are you criticising him for heeding the warning?  

Your papa right balls! . . . if he has one.

no mind him. . . let him continue yapping so we can have a field day on the refugee camp.

Igbo Jews, here they come again. Instead of going to UN for support to actualize Biafra, approach Israel for support to wipe Nigeria out!

http://igboisrael..com/2009/07/igbos-of-nigeria-and-their-osu-problem.html

Few excerpts below, . . .

Among the Igbos one is an Osu if one is a descendant of an Osu man or woman. In other-words one is an Osu if one is a member of an Osu family. Osu families exist in almost all the clans that constitute the Igbo people. Accordingly the Igbos know who is an Osu, because Igbos proper identification is by their clans and families. The writer; Remy Chukwukaodinaka Ilona can be very easily traced in Igboland if the person interested in tracing him finds out that he is from Ozubulu. The next step is to ask about the Ilona family, and in minutes the author will be accounted for. The same way the author could be traced is the same way that Igbos know who is an Osu and who is not one.

Since most Igbos would remember, the Osu is among the Igbos an inferior Igbo. He or she could be very well educated, and be super-rich; but to the rich, educated, very religious, poorest, not educated, and irreligious Igbo, he or she is still an inferior person. He could even be a Christian priest, thus falling into the category of Igbos that command respect among the Igbos today, yet to the Igbos he is still inferior. He is less than a ‘normal’, ‘freeborn’ Igbo. An Osu man would not be inducted into the prestigious ozo society of the Igbos, nor would he be made a traditional ruler in any Igbo clan, even if he is the most qualified member of the clan. .An Osu can hardly get a spouse of his choice from a non Osu Igbo family.

Today only very very few Igbos know why the Igbos treat fellow Igbos in such an ungodly way. Physically the Igbo who is an Osu, and the one who is not, are the same. They shared the same Igbo culture (Omenana), which it must be mentioned that the Igbos have generally abandoned, as they are abandoning the Igbo language. Since the Igbos are almost all Christians today both would invariably be Christians. Yet in spite of all these shared commonalities the non Osu Igbo still looks down on the Osu Igbo, and would not intermarry with him or her. A few Igbos, a few that can be counted off one’s fingers have tried to cross the lines. Their families have generally disowned and ostracized them so that the entire family would avoid the taint, and the disadvantages that follow being an Osu. Today there are millions of Igbos consigned to perpetual spinster-hood and bachelor-hood because of this problem. Well meaning Igbos; of Osu, and non Osu stock have tried to fight the problem, but have failed woefully, because rather than getting weaker, the discrimination is getting stronger. In my opinion Igbos have failed to tackle the problem successfully because the matter has not been studied at all. Any problem that is not studied cannot be solved.

I am from a noble Igbo family that was chosen to become a royal family when the Igbos began to have kings in imitation of their neighbors; the Igala, and the Bini.

3. Even before the Civil War, when Nigeria was regionally defined, it is also on record that 'minorities' have been elected as Premiers in the Eastern Region, even though same cannot be said about their Northern and Western counterparts (although I'm not trying to denigrate either regions based on this). Also, it might also do you some good to read up on political events that led to the creation of the Midwest (and what led my state of Delta not identifying itself as 'Western'); I believe this would help you all make reasonable comments without coming off as bare-faced hypocrites!

I dont know where you learnt history and politics. In terms of tribal transparency, West carries the trophy. We have elected Northerner, Easterners, Western minorities in our elections and to positions of power.

In the 60s there was an Ibo man in Western region's house of rep. There were Edos, Binis and Itsekiris in Western House of reps. Even after the creation of Mid Western state, We still had mid westerners elected into Government in West. Tapa (Nupe) is a minority group, a Tapa has been Governor in Lagos.

Now tell me if you ever had a Westerner or Northerner elected into any of your government authorities? You never hear Yoruba brag about this but typical ibo underestimating achievement of others and believing he is the best in the world comes here shining his fake armor,

pathetic iboman, see ur life? u've fallen from majority group status to an attache status

"coughs". . . "coughs". . . ."coughs" hmmm, lagcity, what a bombshell! becareful before they report you to UN for crime against humanity.

dayo, these fools hear awori and they think awori is like saying ibibio or efik or ijaw. They dont understand that Awori itself is a Yoruba tongue . . . .they dont understand that Onikoyi is Awori, Odofin is Awori, they dont understand that Araba is awori. They are clueless about awori, they hear name and they use the ibo clannish mentality to disparage awori the way they would do to efik or ijaw. When Ogboni speak for Awori he speak for Oyo, speak for Egba, speak for Ijesha. No Ijebu will question the presence of Awori in Ijebuland, no Oyo will question the presence of Ife in Ibadan, no Awori will question the presence of Ogbomosho in Lagos, . . . . but we all question the presence of Ibo in Yorubaland. Thats the bottom line! Efik question the presence of ibo in his homeland. Ijaw question the presence of ibo on his land. Tiv question the presence of Ibo on his land. Cameroon question the presence of ibo in his land., Hausa question the presence of ibo on his land. Dont you have shame, ibo man?

No other group in the neighboring area suffer this problem.  The ibibio and efik land, the ijaw land, the tivi kand,  even in camerron their eastern neighbor dont have this erosion problem.  it is localized to just the ibo territory.  what does that say about this people?  They are cursed!  Centuries of practicing euthanisia on deformed babies born in their society and discrimination of osu is claiming karma on them and their land.   

when we start sending you back to your cursed land many of you will be intimidated by the thought of going back home to discrimination and backwardness and will change your name and loyalty and convert to become Yoruba. Your own brothers will disown you and choose instead to belong in the Yoruba race.

Ours lasted till the war; so, we are used to sharing our political future with minorities in the East. Spare us your sermon, we don't need it!

shyyt!!  You can barely tolerate your own ibo osus much more a minority group.   Cross river was forced into creation. . . .against the resistance of Ojukwu and ibo elders.  Better go and read your history again.

I dont know if this story is true or not but it wont be far fetched considering that boko outlash against government was in itself a response to the government's acquiesce of MEND's terror act of Oct 1st.  When MEND made the declaration for Northerners to go home and no government official condemned it, I wondered if that silence would not be interpreted as an implicit support from Gej. 

Now that Gej is privatising sea security. . . does he care to know how Arewa might respond to privatisation of border security?  Afterall, the army command head itself is split with North in control still of the teeth and its ability to bite.  There is need for wisdom from Gej in giving thought to his actions. . . .  The people sworn to protect him are sabotaging him. 

Arewa reciprocating the demand is not a surprise.  It however marks a new turning point in the politics and terror . . . . boko is increasingly gaining dependence from mainstream.

Oh, newsflash!!   Ijaw taking over navy is to your detriment in SE.  They will blocakde you from Port Harcourt and sea ports in your region.  Gej is tired of your land grab and claim that Pharcourt is ibo land.  He wants to secure it and destroy your access permanently.  Keep rejoicing in that development.

this was my response to bashr in another post.  

Airport, Niger bridge. . . .these are all access to the landlocked ibos.  Thats empowerement!  He wants to empower Ijaw as the top dawg in Eatsern territory.  Why would Gej be interested in such a need, why would he waste the opportunity now that he has it to reverse the encroachment of his ancestral lands and riverine by a regional rival?  If ibo can be successful in trade why not Ijaw?  The port is very important to Ijaw and the control of it and status of it as a convergent market is very critical.  The airport will compete with it and ibo access to the sea will deny Ijaw the control.  

I am not saying this to cause dividision. . . but again, It is apparent that you guys lack political insight. . . you are not politically mature enough to understand national politics and how to play it in the Nigerian context.  

Yes the privatisoation of sea security has impact on Yoruba. . . but in a very remote dimension.  It has a direct and fatal impact on the actualization of ibo interest and voice in your own homeland in East.   IF Nigeria divides and you are ejected from West, which other access do you have to the sea?  It is in East . . . in Ijaw  area.  By proactively sitting on that gateway now, Gej makes it impracticable for ibo to succeed without depending and defaulting to Ijaw voice.   Your hatred for Yoruba has blinded you you cant see that you are politically walking into a dead end trap.


Gej is slowly working on a plan that will dissolve Nigeria. . . boko is the instrument to make it happen.  This is why he is  inactive against them. . . .they aiding his cause to divide it.  But he doesnt want it to happen too fast before he has installed Ijaw as the de facto voice in East.   Political maradona!  Yoruba understand this, Huasa understand this. . . but you ibos out of sentiments are marrooned under his Azikiwe spell. . . . he will make you impotent and subservient to Dokubo.

Dayo,

the fool has surrendered. . . . .he said "at least you are beginning to learn". lol, thats all he had air to say. . . no more claims! shyyt! thats lesson for ibo to learn, everyone been knowing that wisdom of live and let live. Ibo is the one campaigning for live and let die. Its refreshing to see bashr and his company finally learning the wisdom of live and let live!

When we Igbo start our own, we will have COMPLETE fighting force -navy, airforce, army and marines!

I know you dont have political understanding. . . but let me donate a political wisdom to you right now. Onlytruth, whatever you had wanted to get but never got, whatever you dream of getting in future. . . .including Biafra, this is time to get it, under Gej! If ibo make mistake and lettheir opportunity for Biafra slip away when your man is in power, then Im afraid you can kiss that dream bye bye. So get your navy, army and air force and marines under Gej. Gej comes out. . . thats it! I give you that wisdom for free.

Bashr,

Who cares who ibo die with?  SS, SES, SSE. . . . who gives a shyyt?   . . . but dont come whining that we watched and didnt come to your rescue when SS subdue you and silence your voice.  Dont come wondering why we dont get our people from North when Hausa start slaughtering ibos.  Dont come wondering why we hate you when we start ejecting you from Lagos and everywhere else in West.  If you will not question our actions in any of these scenarios it would be joyful.  But given history and how you behave in NL, we know you cannot.  You depend on our strength to do anything successfully on your own.  If we withdraw that support you suffer and perish.

Before I digress more let me say that eventhough the story sounds plausible its still possible some truths are not yet out. Lets exercise some patience until we get all the facts because this is a security issue. Truth in Nigeria is almost nonexistent therefore, lets exercise some restraint before we kill a fly with a sledge hammer.

wha wait and get facts?? By the time facts are out its too late to reverse whatever action is needed to implement the plan. You are using the same wait and see attitude that Gej encouraged with boko haram.

There is no wait and see here, the outcome is a heavy cost to national security. Envision that Gej's private navy becomes true. What stops a Yoruba president in future from privatising air national guard for air space and border patrol? Would ibo or ijaw or hausa want Yoruba to be in charge of air space? Imagine Hausa president in future coming up with private army frontier guards. Do you want your borders or does Yoruba want its borders controled by Hausa?

If these future possibilities are scary, then Gej's idea is scary and should be killed in incubation. There is no wait and see!

Oh, newsflash!!   Ijaw taking over navy is to your detriment in SE.  They will blocakde you from Port Harcourt and sea ports in your region.  Gej is tired of your land grab and claim that Pharcourt is ibo land.  He wants to secure it and destroy your access permanently.  Keep rejoicing in that development.

You really should not wait for Nigeria to dissolve.  If you truly and sincerely believe in your claim. . . . then go ahead and cut Yoruba off the oil.   If you cannot, then you are an impotent warrior.

Why is armed soldier posted to guard caskets containing dead bodies? Should he not be posted outside guarding and protecting living souls?

i told you before we have agreed on one thing and that is everybody answering im papa name and when that happens we will knowwho contributes what , you cant develop yorubaland now your getting free ooil only God knows what will happen when the break up comes.

the oil belongs to Nigeria, not Biafra.  So ibo has no mouth to dictate what Yoruba get or dont.  Yoruba has more claim on the oil than you do.  Since Nigeria was formed our loyalty and membership in it has never ceased.  You cannot say the same.  The oil factors into the integrity of Nigeria and Biafra broke that integrity in past.  So to comeup charging that somebody has no right to oil you have to be kidding yourself.

you just confirmed what i said ,these companies dont belong to yorubas and the ones that do like glo and oando got the money from the same oil from the east so i ask you again take away all that and tell me what yorubas contribute to lagos or nigeria.
meanwhile your propagnda will never work everybody knows apart from oil from south south and south east igbos are the major contributor to all the meduim ,micro and macro economy in lagos,abujuja and nigeria , i bet you forgot to mention igbo owned multinationls like coshcharis,capital oil,transcorp(all the hilton hotels) mtn, visa phone, zenith bank<should i continue .

In the total history of Lagos. . . . ibo's total contribution to the growth and wealth of Lagos is not even 1%.

yanmiri beating chest in false boast. Please bashr enumerate your contributions in Lagos, lets hear it.

c'mon, tell us what ibo has contributed to lagos besides armed robbery, fake sub standard products and chaos.

Chief Negro. . . . . .

Chei! See as better person take address me.  See person wey get sense and beauty take recoginize me for nairaland.!  

Before I start let me anoint you, may God bless your right and your left, God bless your front and your behind. . . .     (I hear you already have plenty blessings in those areas, hahahahaha  ).  Chineke!  

Anyway, where was I?  Oh yeah,.  . . . ,  may God bless Ify and her husband and entire household.

Where is exotic?  Exotic, bring your behind in here and learn from Ify, you rascal!  

. . . .but even in the bible time,priests and kings were "anointed" with oil?
Water for cleansing. . .Yes but "Oil" for laying of hands on the head.I also thought "blood" is/was used for total cleansing,then and now?

You see, mankind is immersed in three realms - the earthly, the sublunary and the celestial.  I don’t know what you call it in Igbo, but in Yoruba it is called “aba meta”.

This three realms is what the Sabbath is about to commemorate with gratitude the Greatness of God.

The earthly energy forces mankind to relate with ego. The sublunary energy awakens mankind to the beauty and pleasantness of humility. The celestial unveils to mankind the truth of submission.

Anointing, as a ritual is in the sublunary realm.  This is where the collective ego (earthly beings) are imbued by the sublunary effect of beatification to humble their own ego in deference to another being.  Normally, ego is located in the chest, in the solar plexus.  When it is energized it rises up to the throat and expresses itself as an independent voice.  When it is subdued, it sinks below to the navel seeking support and renders its voice in a cause.  This sublunary effect is a very powerful force that subdues the ego, it gets the people intoxicated to the point of abandoning their own care and needs for the needs and interests of the anointed person, . . . . to the point that the anointed one can become an object of worship on the collective ego.   You can view MLK in that order and even Obama too.  If you agree that these two were anointed, then we must ask, who oiled their heads with the anointment tinxture?   The priest did not present MLK to the people and say here, I am laying hands on his head and anointing him with oil.  Accept and follow him.  Neither was that done to Obama.  So the anointment itself begins with the individual.  This is where the third realm comes in.  

The celestial has defined and elected a spirit for a purpose or a destiny.  Through living,  that purpose is gradually activated in that person. At a particular moment, the cosmos align social events to obey and bow to the efforts that this person is making.  The subduing of collective ego by the sublunary is part of this alignment and bowing to this individual.  The person’s status is elevated – a breakthrough moment!  The act of rubbing oil is just a physical ritual affirming what has already been decreed in the celestial realm.  Mankind has no power to anoint, but we only accept and support the anointed.  

Do you know why the serpent is significant in divine worship?  There are many reasons but primary among them is its ability to shed its skin and take on a brand new one.  The serpent new skin is already formed underneath and ready for the harsh elements before the old one is discarded. So there are two stages involved – a new that continues with the serpent and an old that is left behind to rot.

Likewise, mankind must have the wherewithal to shed old skin and enter into a new one.  There are rituals that make this possible.  Water is the cleansing. . . the new skin that we continue in.  Blood is the offering. . . . the atonement for past that we are leaving behind.


Again @ topic. . . .I dont know what will be the accurate way to describe anointment in Yoruba.  We may not have a word for anointment although we have consciousness of it.  Just like we did not have a word for evil but someone forced Esu as the translation for devil.

Uwazuruike To Igbo Leaders: You Are Callous

. . . .that's not news Uwazuruke, we knew that! Give us news. . . tell us about the 48hrs order for Army to release your dead bodies confiscated. Its been like 500hrs since. . . . ezeoku? >

Same SSS that reportedly picked up Shekarau? or a different SSS. . . .?

Who are all these illiterates using ICJ as a threat for intimidating the society? ehn, who are these fools?

First of all, ICJ does not recognise lawsuits or entertain legal cases filed by non-sovereign entities. This Zaki is fooling his villagers to soothe their emotions. Pretty soon he will ask them to vote him or raise funds so he can lawyer on their behalf.

Can someone please tell Tivis that Zaki's lawsuit is a bogus claim fabricated to swindle their pockets. ICJ only entertains legal suit between sovereign powers, not between individuals . . . its not a civil court and it's not human rights court for individual grievances. Tiv of Benue is a component of a sovereign state which Obj was the ruler of. . . . one and the same entity! Lawsuit tossed in thrash. . . . . . .!

Within the period of my term, I plan to interact effectively with all Igbo here on Nairaland, to be able to echo your opinions effectively. The email is the most important tool in doing that

Yo, if discussion in email is the most important media for effective communications amongst igbos on NL, it suggests that you dont feel secured discussing openly amongst all Nigerians here. Another indicator of your self-isolation and independence drive. Isnt it time then for you to form your own forum, away from NL and call it ndigboland, or Biafra? Im sure your sheep will follow your leadership to the new land. Stupid a s s idea from an Eze elected to improve relations and bring people together!