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So when Hausa butcher you and you come crying for Yoruba support, is that imaginary too?  When fulani nomad kill your people in East or South or go to Ekiti and cut someones arm off, is that imaginary?  

I dont see anything we discuss here that is remotely imaginary. . . . they depict the actuals on the ground, although people choose to insulate their own sensitivity against it.  So we shall soon see how imagination can carry when one of you start whining about genocide and selected targeting.  

As far as what I have said I dont withdraw it but yes, I admit, I did not need to tell him how he should respond, he very well knows what to do and manage the situation in way he sees fit.  I misstepped, I corrected myself in that angle.

That is called leadership and maturity. I bet ibos dont know what that is, . . only thing you understand is arrogance and false bravery.

. . . .and i told him not to bother with what I said, that I agreed with him.

how does that ache your heart?

The implication the occupation as a political shift is what I was addressing there and not necessarily the transaction at point of contact.

carry on with it   
but don't try to drag others into your player hater game
see how PhysicsQed just disgraced your with her/ his response to your post
LESSON fight your imaginary igbo cyber/street war alone, don't drag other sane people into it

As proud as I am, I am also humble. When I step on toes, I am not afraid or too arrogant to admit wrongdoing. Thats the difference between myself and your arrogant and inflexible a s s

.This is why the capital territory should be relocated to Igboland. There, it is our land, and no one will ever be afraid of being "occupied and monopolised" by the Igbos because the land will be Igboland. You are all free to come in, occupy and monopolise us.

I really can't get some people, you want to eat your cake and still have it.

The issue of territorial occupation has nothing to do with capital territory.  Kano and Kaduna are not capitals.  Through market penetration and convergence, igbos have displaced the Hausas as middlemen on their own land.  True or false, thats one of their displeasures.  Unlike in the North, the Lagos market is very open and highly dynamic and so made it difficult for igbo to monopolise trade, nonetheless, the aggression and cut-corner style of trading and marketing is a foreign one to the Yorubas making us question the impact of your continued presence ultimately on the morals and integrity of the land.  

While your style of trading maybe one that is normal in the homeland, it is a foreign concept and one that your hosts are not willing to accept.  The market is an extension of the economy which is an extension of the politics.  If your style of trading can be so insensitive to the needs of your host lands. . . . they wonder if your politics at national level, a position of optimum power and access, will not be even more daring and intolerant, and more so that history can attest to your brutality in corridors of power.

So the position that capital be moved to your land is still not a political solution for you or for your rivals. Your grievance is the exclusion from political power.  Was the capital in your territory when Zik was President?  Was capital in your territory when Ironsi was President?

except the core North "born to rule" mentality. That is part of why I urge my people Ndigbo to never cede any land they legally bought, under any circumstance.

they equally accuse you, as do other Nigerians, of your "born to occupy" mentality.  In fact your last statement is indicator of that.  If you do not see any issue with occupying and monopolising host territory, why do you feel a sense of injustice at being denied by a people that want to occupy and monopolise rulership?

fight your dirty fight with your ghetto phrases

I address non-ibos with fluency and respect, because they understand respect.  Ibos must be addressed in the ghetto way, anything more dignified is a waste of time and letters.

Hey Physics, no never mind all that I said.  I agree with you.  

My belief about ethnicity: It is largely a figment of our imagination as the only concrete factor proving our ethnicity is the word from our parents telling us we are this tribe or that tribe. If a Yoruba man tells his kids that they are Ibo, they would live their lives defending the IBO! Ethnicity is just that- Word from our parents defining our identity. Words that in themselves could be totally wrong.

papabrowne,

It is instinctive in a child to seek support from a fellow human, be it black, white, Igbo, Hausa or Yoruba.  The child does not see color or tribe, it sees a means to get its needs satisfied.   So if the child's innocence was corrupted by the parent, then how is it that children that grow up without parents are not freed from this corruption?

Negro_Ntns,

Omo n'Oba Erediauwa also noted his admiration for certain qualities of the Igbos in those quotes.

Even if I were the kind of person who resorted to ethnic attacks (which I'm not), whenever my ethnic group or any Oba of Benin past or present was criticized or challenged in a statement, it would make no sense to post anything like what you posted above when even that's just not what I believe.

Call it honesty. I can't feign dislike or hatred when I don't have any.

I understand your position.  Let me share this with you. . . .plenty people in NL believe naively that the actions by igbos on the internet is just fun and is nothing harmful to anybody.  Some people are going to wake up to a shock one day.  They have tried unsuccessfully to gain ground geographically and failed, they have a new strategy, gaining minds electronically!  Their actions appear diffused and individual but I am telling you it is not . . .they take toll afterward and get with one another to recap on the success of their efforts.    The same way they bombard and overwhelm a lhost territory and before you can say stop, like ants, you are sorrounded by them, the same approach they are using on internet.  

I dont know if you understand Hausa or not but the exact way we perceive them here is how they are perceived on Hausa forums, . . .pests that must be wiped out before they colonize your land.  People that dismiss one or two ants as nothing to be afraid of wake up to regret it.  When that fool insulted Bini monarchy he should have been responded to instantly, . . . dont let it cool  offf.   If they keep doing it and no one responds it becomes a habit and before you know it they are all over the internet dragging the esteemed status of your king in the dirt.  Stop reasoning with ibo. . . they dont appreciate reason.

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duplicate

A little side project of mine that I've not had time to complete (because it is too much work for one man) is to place a copy of "The History of the Yorubas" online, freely available.

The copyright on it has expired, so technically it is in the public domain.

There is a scanned+OCRed version of it available online (see here: http://www.archive.org/details/historyofyorubas00john and here: http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofyorubas00john/historyofyorubas00john_djvu.txt), but it has many many errors/typos that I've been fixing manually.

Perhaps it is time for me to upload it somewhere in a Wikipedia-style format so that the Yoruba community at large can help me fix the errors

. . . that will be excellent! On the last sentence, how will you verify identity? While internet sharing and online databases are a great blessing, they are also a big problem for false-proofing a document.

A comment from someone (onlytruth) whose people settled communal disputes through wrestling contests when Oyo and Ibadan had some of the most advanced Infantry and Cavalry units in Africa.

. . . .thats bravery! Yorubas are cowards.

No, they are not interested in assassinating him. . . . they just want to remove him or partition the country, whichever of the two they succeed in getting first.

The Generals

Ibadan
Are Latosa
Osi, Ilori – son of Ogunmola and later Akintaro
Iyapo – son of Ibikunle
Balogun Ajayi Ogboriefon
Ali Laluwoye – Otun
Babalola son of Ajayi Ogboriefon

Ijesa
Ogedengbe
Ayomoro
Ogunmodede

Egba
Ogundipe
Ajagunjeun
Okenla

Ekiti
Fabunmi
Odeyale
Adeyala

Ilorin
Emir Alihu
Ajia
Karara – Balogun of Ilorin

Ife
Ayikiti – general

I may update the list later

yeah, hurry up and do that. . . . . I was wondering why my name wasn't on the list?

Either this gets moved to the Culture section or I put up thread on Igbo history, preferebly Afikpo, or in fact, where ever in Igbo land

Dummy, I have to continously teach you about the value of relations and influence.  Just because we are discussing war, you don't come in with a threat to get your demands.  Animals do that!  You state your concern for why you think the post is in the wrong section and ask (not demand, but ask) if it would not be better to relocate it.  

If you use this Yoruba approach of dialoguing, 90% of time your request will be met.  

It appears you already searched in google and elsewhere online and did not find detailed info.  To get the detailed level of information you are demanding, check with museums and or libraries.  That will be your best option.  Whatever you find please bring back and share with us.  or like dayo said, grab hold of katsumoto

Negro ntns how far naw?. I can remember you promised to quit tribalism at the end of 2011. Mind you, this is 2012

I was never a tribalist.  I said I will be more accomodating in 2012, and yes, I am living to that commitment.

Understand this fact that the writer of the above is a Yoruba man, and will write to favour his own lean-age,

I am surprised you will call that nonsense written by Ekitikan a fact, I am even more shocked that you will call Ekitikan a Yoruba. What makes him a Yoruba, having Ekiti in his name? I guess if I register as Nwabuzor I automatically become Ibo, right?

Why did your forefathers fought them even when they want a country of their

. . . . .Negro farts in ibo

^^^. . . .so MEND was fighting for its right when they set off a bomb at independence parade and killed a number of people?

it shocks me atimes how hausa/fulani will keep silent in NL and only to get defence from our yoruba neighbours.

. . . im sure it does! It never shocks you though that your Yoruba neighbors give refuge to people running away from Hausa/fulani terror in the North. or does it?

Hey somebody tell me about this Bamileke people in Cameroon.  Onlytruth, start talking.  I didnt know Oduduwa had a child to the East of you guys.  

You know what?  Im beginning to take a second look at igboland as a possible Odudua domain. . . . but I will wait to hear your narration.

Now you're talking, Yoruba have Benin Republic right beside them  
Look westward not eastward.

They are twins!  Benin in West, Bini in East, sitting cradled on each arm of their parent in the middle.  We cant have one without the other.  . . . and you know Yorubas love twins.

Bamileke. . . .in Cameroon?  

Hey onlytruth, wake up. . . .cameroon will only accept you as a minority,  nothing more!  Now you should try Gabon. . . they said you are their lost brothers from the creation of humanity.

Valon, I was just wondering on that myself. What does it matter who snitched on him, afterall the guy in custody is, according to their story, the wrong asset, . . so who cares!

I completely agree that the UN would not likely allow more than 3 countries out of the present Nigeria.

Its going to be West, North and South.  Igboland will be merged into a new territory.  Seeing that result,  our sister nations in West Africa might be encouraged to form a new Yoruba nation expanding westward along the savannah belt and downward to the coast.

ekt_, true statement!

. . as if ND have no Igbos. Igbos constitute about 15-20% of ND

wha??  I cant believe that you pegged the number at 20%.  Your numbers are usually in the 70% and above of host territory. What happened?

ekt, can Yoruba not step away from foreing centered ideologies and go back to our indigenous philosophies?  Forget Islam, Christianity, forget Plato and Socrates and MichelAngelo. . . hop over the 100yr of bullshyyt and reattach our 1900 history to the 2000 knowledge and awareness of global politics, economy and sociology.

So if Edo decides to go with say, Biafra, Biafra will have a small number if Muslims.

ah, katz. . .     You sef like trouble. , . . the osu caste, full christian as they are, are having difficulty getting their fellow christian brothers of dialu blood to accept and recognize their humanity or religion. . . . but you want to introduce Islam into Biafra soil.  What if Alhaji become President of Biafra one day?  Yanga dey sleep. . .  

Mend, Opc, Massob, Egbesu, Akwat Diop, Boko Haram, Mossop

Hey Sam, do me a favor. . . . stop listing my beloved OPC with a gang of looters and terrorists, please!

Obiagu is gripped by a fear of the unknown. He has been having slepless nights contemplating the emergence of an expanded Yoruba commonwealth with an Eastern frontier right on the West bank of River Niger.

. . . . creek man, take question mark out of topic! Geoffrey did not post the topic.

It is still a wrong position to take attacking ACF for its demand. You lack political vision. . . . you and the mumu President you work for. Both of you have failed to see that ACF will play political see-saw with MEND issues. You continue to donate to them political points that makes it increasingly likely they will boldly confront you with rebellion. Stupid pair of creek rascals!