Celebrities › Re: Mariah Carey, Beyonce Knowles, Jennifer Lopez: Who Is Most Beautiful? by Nella(f): 9:13am On Mar 22, 2007 |
choongtin: ermmmm i ll say j.lo, beyonce then mariah same thing |
Celebrities › Re: Who Is More Pretty, Jackie Appiah Or Nigerian Actress Genevieve Nnaji? by Nella(f): 9:12am On Mar 22, 2007 |
The Jackie gurl is pretty, but Jenny is Much prettier! |
Celebrities › Re: Usher Or 2Face Idibia: Who Do You Think Is Hotter? by Nella(f): 9:10am On Mar 22, 2007 |
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Celebrities › Re: Should Jennifer Lopez Be Called A Bitch? by Nella(f): 9:08am On Mar 22, 2007 |
No she shouldn't b called a bitch |
Celebrities › Re: D Banj Or 2face? by Nella(f): 9:07am On Mar 22, 2007 |
who is D Banj??  |
Celebrities › Re: Chidi Mokeme Vs. Ramsy Noah, Who's Hotter? 8) by Nella(f): 9:06am On Mar 22, 2007 |
That Ramsey guy is hotter,  |
Celebrities › Re: Who Do You Have A Crush On? by Nella(f): 9:05am On Mar 22, 2007 |
That guy!!!
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Music/Radio › Re: Beyonce vs Shakira: Who Can Dance Better? by Nella(f): 9:03am On Mar 22, 2007 |
HM, hard decition, but i will go 4 Shakira  athou Beyonce also does her stuff, |
Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Things You Are Very Thankful For: by Nella(f): 8:35am On Mar 22, 2007 |
Family That there is a most high up there Friends Life etc,  |
Celebrities › Re: Genevieve Nnaji vs. Halle Berry by Nella(f): 6:37pm On Mar 21, 2007 |
ok Jenny is fine n all-----but compared 2 Halle  Halle tops it--- |
Celebrities › Re: Alicai Keys Vs Beyonce by Nella(f): 6:35pm On Mar 21, 2007 |
Both pf em r fine,  |
Celebrities › Re: Psquare and Styl plus,who is better? by Nella(f): 6:33pm On Mar 21, 2007 |
None  |
Music/Radio › Re: Backstreet Boys Versus Westlife: Who's Better? by Nella(f): 6:32pm On Mar 21, 2007 |
the westlifes r just more hotter---but they don't sing better  |
Music/Radio › Re: Backstreet Boys Versus Westlife: Who's Better? by Nella(f): 6:28pm On Mar 21, 2007 |
Glamourgal: BSB r more original  That's true!! West life, most of their songs are copied!!! |
Celebrities › Re: Some Pple Said I Look Like A Monkey. Do I? by Nella(f): 6:26pm On Mar 21, 2007 |
LOL Funny! |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Quran Fraud Contradictions Or Great Truths? Part 2 by Nella(f): 9:10pm On Mar 20, 2007 |
@ babs787 Hey, lol, yea i'm not an Arsenal fan but i luv foot ball but don't lyk watching it! Now 2 ur question: " how come i luv foot ball but don't lyk watching it?? Ok, lyk i mentioned b4, it is ma fav sport, but just sitting there n watching it, is too------boring!! i really don't have enough patient, i don't know how 2 explain---it just dosen't intrest me 2 watch it  2 ur other queston: " if i'm playing 4 my country or club level?" lol, no, i'm just in d school team, althoug there r a lot of Nigerians here ( in Portugal) who r trying 2 get in a team, it's hard u know, due 2 d circumstance of d team here------ ok so i will throw d question 2 u: -.------how can u stand watching football  -----dosent it bore u  ? Well peaze out!!! stay blessed!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Quran Fraud Contradictions Or Great Truths? Part 2 by Nella(f): 8:50am On Mar 20, 2007 |
Oh, haven't been here 4 a wbile ( thought u d never come on again)! babs787: @Nella, Sorry for my late response. I have been very busy. I don't know why christians attack muslims on issues when they have worst cases in their holy book. It seems you have not been reading your bible, if you have, you would have read the saying of Jesus in
Mathew 7 v 5: You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. We will know see which of the book is worth giving to the younger ones to read.
Posted by Nella ha ha lol!! imagine u saying d Bible has gat improper stuffs lol!!! do u even read d quran? well what about d quran that practicly gives out messages of violence??!?!??
We will go into the Quran and the bible and weigh the two books.
Posted by Nella Quran Sura 2:191: "Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers."
You should have quoted the verse in full. This is what we have
Quran 2 v 191: and kill them wherever you find them and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-Al-Haram (The sanctuary at Mecca) unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
It should be noted in the above verse that the verse was revealed during one of the wars fought by the Holy Prophet when they were being attacked by pagan arabs, unbelievers etc. Allah first told the prophet never to fight them, the pagans never allowed him perform his prayer and he had to migrate leaving behind his properties to Medinah. When the oppression was too much, Allah then ordered him to fight but never to exceed limit. So the above verse was revealed during the wars fought then.
Posted by Nella Quran Sura 4:89: "Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them."
Quran 4 v 89 : they wish that you reject faith as they have rejected faith, and thus that you all become equal (like one another). So take not protector or friends from them till they emigrate in the way of Allah (to muhammed saw). But if they turn back (from Islam), take hold of them and kill them wherever you find them and take neither protectors nor friends nor helpers from them
The same explanation goes here too.
Quran 5:33: "Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom." (Anyone who resist Islam is deemed to be making war with Allah)
Same explanation too.
Allah told us never to kill
Quran 5 v 32: because of that, we ordained for the children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind….,
Quran 17 v 33: and do not kill anyone whose killing Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause, and whoever is killed wrongfully, we have given his heir the authority (to demand law of equality in punishment) – or to forgive, or take blood money. But let him npt exceed limits in the matter of taking life (i.e. he should not kill except the killer). Verily, he is helped (by the Islamic Law)
Quran 6 v 151:…., and kill not anyone whom Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause. This he commanded you that you may understand.
Having explained the verses, I will now go into the bible to compare the two books. I will be citing just or three examples out of very many exmaples.
Prophets but Naked!
Genesis 9 v 21: noah drank of the wine and became drunk and lay uncovered in his tent and Ham (his son) saw the[b] unclothedness [/b] of his father
1st Samuel 19 v 23: and the spirit of God came upon Saul , and he too stripped off his clothes, and he too prophesised before Samuel and lay naked all the day and all the night.
2nd Samuel 6 v 20: david dances naked before the people and before the Lord.
Fornicators!
Judge 16 v 1 : and he went to Gaza, and there he saw a HARLOT and he went into her.
Lots daughter commit incest with him
Genesis 19 v 30: lot went up out of Zoar and dwelt in the hills with his two daughters. And the first born said to the younger, “our father is old and there is not a man on earth to come to us after the manner of all the earth Come let us make our father drink wine and we will lie with him that we may preserve offspring through our father. So they made their father drink wine that night and the first born went in and lay with her father; he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.
And on the next day, the first born said to the younger, “ behold I lay last night with my father, let us make him drink wine tonight also; then you go in and lie with him that we may preserve offspring through our father. So they made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger arose and lay with him and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose. Thus both the daughters of lot were with child by their father!!
Judah with his daugher-in-law Tamar
Genesis 38 v 15: when he saw her he thought her to be a harlot for she had covered her face. He went over her at the road side and said, “come, let me come into you’ for he did not that she was his daughter in law …., so he gave them to her and went into her and she conceived by him. About three months later, Judah was told, ‘ Tamar you daughter-in-law has played the harlot and moreover she is with child by harlotry.
The sex literature in the bible
Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me. I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink, the nectar of my pomegranates. His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me."
Song of Solomon 8:10 "Dear brothers, I'm a walled-in virgin still, but my breasts are full— And when my lover sees me, he knows he'll soon be satisfied."
Song of Songs 4:5 "Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies."
Song of Songs 1:13 "My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts."
Praising the bed that they had sex on: Song of Songs 1:16 "How handsome you are, my lover! Oh, how charming! And our bed is verdant"
Song of Songs 1:2-4 "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth-- for your love is more delightful than wine. Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the maidens love you! Take me away with you--let us hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers. We rejoice and delight in you; we will praise your love more than wine. How right they are to adore you!"
His right arm sexually feeling her body: Song of Songs 2:6 "His left arm is under my head, and his right arm embraces me."
Song of Songs 3:4 "Scarcely had I passed them when I found the one my heart loves. I held him and would not let him go till I had brought him to my mother's house, to the room of the one who conceived me."
So in other words, she was not married to him, and when she found him, she took him back to her bed room to have illegal sex with him? If she were married to him, she wouldn't take him to her "mother's house". She would take him to their house.
Song of Songs 4:9 "You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace."
Fantasizing about his sister? at least he shows in this verse that he would!.
Song of Songs 4:10 "How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!"
Song of Songs 4:12 "You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain."
Song of songs 4 v 1: behold, you are beautiful m love. Your lips are like a scarlet thread, your cheeks are like halves of a pomegranate, your neck like the tower of David. Your two breast are like fawns, twins of a gazelle. How sweet is your love my sister, my bride, how much better is your love than wine. How graceful are your feet in sandals, o queenly maiden! Your rounded thighs are like jewels, the work of a master hand. Your navel is rounded bowl that never lacks mix wine. Your belly is heap of wheat, encircled with lilies. Your two breast are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. Etc…
Proverb 5 v 18: rejoice with the wife of your youth. Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breast satisfy you at all times.
Biblical languages
Disgustful command to Ezekiel
Ezekiel 4 v 12: the lord said to Ezekiel, ‘ and you shall eat it as barley cakes and you shall bake it with dung that comes out of man in their sight. And the Lord said, ‘ even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the gentiles. Then Ezekiel said, ‘ah Lord God, behold, my soul has not been polluted for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dies of itself or is torn in pieces, neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth. Then God replied ands said to him, ‘ lo, I have given cow’s dung for man’s dung and you shall prepare your bread there with.
They eat dung and drink piss
2nd king 18 v 27: Rabshakeh said, ‘ has he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung and drink their own piss with you’.
Rape is allowed in the Bible.
Deuteronomy 22:25-29 25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbor, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Now incase you didn’t catch where the rape is allowed I shall break the verses down to make it more clear and easier to understand. So lets break it down:
25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbor, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her The verses 25-27 is talking about a NON-VIRGIN who is raped. So verses 25-27 do condemn rape, however so it only condemns rape in certain cases. So now we have established that if a non-virgin is raped then the rapist shall be killed. However so lets now read on to see where the rape is allowed: 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. So now in verse 28 we see that if a man rapes a VIRGIN then his punishment is that he has to pay her father and marry her! What kind of law is that? I would really love to know why do you kill the rapist if he rapes a non virgin and why don’t you kill the rapist when he rapes a virgin? So as we all just saw, rape is condoned in certain cases in the Bible, when the victim happens to be a virgin the man gets away with it, when the victim is a non virgin the man is killed.
Let me post the entire passages again: 25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbor, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days So there you go, in verses 25-27 when the non virgin is raped the rapist is killed. In verses 28-29 when a virgin is raped the rapist is not killed, the rape victim has to marry the rapist! Now I can assure you that no rape victim would ever want to marry her rapist, she would rather kill herself than marry her rapist. I wonder what Nella and other Christians have to say to this?
Killings in the bible
OT shows us a lot of battles that both Moses and David took part in, and both these men killed a lot of people, including women and children. Yet when I show this to Christians, they simply ignore it, or try to justify it. Yet what is most inconsistent about this is that if the prophet Muhammad kills people in battle or war, the Christian goes mad and starts screaming out 'false prophet!
Christians here on Nairaland have been claiming that Jesus is God, they claim that Jesus is the same God of the OT. So basically what we have is this: 1- Jesus is God 2- Jesus is the God of the Old Testament 3- Christians believe that the OT is the inspired word of God 4- The OT is authentic to the Christian 5- The God in the OT is Jesus So since Jesus is the God of the OT, we shall now look at the God of the OT ordering the KILLINGS of many people:
Zephaniah 2:12-15
"You Ethiopians will also be slaughtered by my sword," says the LORD. And the LORD will strike the lands of the north with his fist. He will destroy Assyria and make its great capital, Nineveh, a desolate wasteland, parched like a desert. The city that once was so proud will become a pasture for sheep and cattle. All sorts of wild animals will settle there. Owls of many kinds will live among the ruins of its palaces, hooting from the gaping windows. Rubble will block all the doorways, and the cedar paneling will lie open to the wind and weather. This is the fate of that boisterous city, once so secure. "In all the world there is no city as great as I," it boasted. But now, look how it has become an utter ruin, a place where animals live! Everyone passing that way will laugh in derision or shake a defiant fist
Ezekiel 9:5-7 "Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."
Let me stop here. Do I need to say more? The bible is indeed the holiest book .
Take care Sweet sister Nella.
 (did u acctually spend ur tym writting all that??  ) 2 b honest i don't have enough patient 2 start reading all this------no way hose!!! i get d message ur trying 2 send( at least i think i do), but i guess i am still not in d least bit convinsed about u muslims!!!!----no way!! besides i'm tired of diz debate!!, u would always end up holding on 2 ur own belive n I, 2 mine----so where is d point!?!?!?!?!! babs787: So lets change the topic jare. What should we discuss. Are you an Arsenal fan? Do you love football? No, I'm not an Arsenal fan , I luv Playing football ( as a matter of fact, it's my fav sport) Lyk i was saying i luv playing football but Acctually watching it on TV is a punisment 4 me!!! Peaze out, |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Hiv Test,came Out To Be +. Wat Should I Do? by Nella(f): 8:57am On Mar 16, 2007 |
coloba: Nella,what more can I say than thank you? I got all what u said and really appreciate your contribution. As u already know I'm a christian and know my right in Christ. I can't see myself running to a man or church all because they said God is there to heal. I know He is every where and believe He can reach me anywhere- that's the most important thing!
So don't worry about that.The only people I've shared it with so far are u guys at Nairaland and really thank God for such a forum where I can express myself and speak my mind (it sure does take alot of pressure from me).I'm alot more happier than the day I heard the news and never really heard the drums of death after that day. My mind is really at rest and do believe all is well.
Thank you dear Nella! Hey Coloba, U r welcome!!! I am Glad u r getting over it little by little!!! Phew!! glad 2 hear as well that, u r not one of those people who go running 2 men 4 miracle!!! Ur Miracle comes n will come 4rom our Heavenly Father!! Every one has their cross in diz world, n all u have 2 do is pick it up n follow d master who carried d biggest n heaviest cross of all n is leading d way!! n i'm Glad u r picking ur's up, n following him!!! God bless u a WHOLE DEAL!!! I will never 4get u in my prayers!!!!! B strong, God bless, N peaze out!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Hiv Test,came Out To Be +. Wat Should I Do? by Nella(f): 12:09pm On Mar 13, 2007 |
Hey Coloba, lyk Tayo D, i do hope people learn 4rom ur experience, I'm "REALLY" glad 2 know that u r a Christain!!!! Cuz that's all that matters! as long as u, in ur heart accept Jesus as ur Lord n saviour, there is nothing more 2 worry about!! Prayer, fasting n faith is d key!!! If God heals u or not (lyk Backslider said) so b it!! Gods choice is d absolute best!! Try not 2 have that drum of death buzzing in ur ears: Cuz there is no such thing as death!! It's just a croos over 2 a better place, a place of eternity !!!! a place of totall Joy n peace !! where u soar with Angels a Beautiful place, n all u need 2 do is accept Jesus as ur Lord n Saviour!! which i'm glad u already did!!! Besides wat's there in diz world 2 miss  ( apart 4rom ur loved ones!), One saying i know = God takes d Good ones up close 2 him soo soon cuz he misses them n wants 2 take them away 4rom diz wicked world of suffering n so on, !!! One advice= i know u must probably b in some kinda state, but don't go running 2 any man , Church or just who ever thats tells u he or she can heal u with miracles!! If God wants 2 heal u, he absolutely will!! eventhou that man is there or not!! God is d healer not man!! ( all u need is prayer,fasting n faith) if he dosen't then so b it!! Play ur role n let God decide d rest!! Peaze out! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Is The Most Powerful Spiritual Churches Or Prayer Houses In Nigeria by Nella(f): 12:42pm On Mar 09, 2007 |
Backslider: @ EVEPT
Flee from Evil I have been to those place and they are the Synagogue of Lucifer. Gud advice!!!! White garment Churches?!!?!?!?!? ew!ew!ew! PURE SYNAGOGUE OF L-U-C-I-F-E-R!!!! NEVER!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Video: T.B Joshua Raises A Man From The Dead by Nella(f): 12:38pm On Mar 09, 2007 |
Backslider: My sister GL
God Bless you for that Quote.
Does this man condemn sin at all? It is all Miracles. The Children of this day Seek a Sign. It shall be The Sign of Noah yea Few Shall Serve The Lord In Spirit and Truth. don't mind them-----trying 2 decive gulible people always!!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Did Not Exist by Nella(f): 12:31pm On Mar 09, 2007 |
ok so diz topic is still moving on--------but i can c nothing intressing is going on, i guess u guys r as bored as i am  Omo Eko link=topic=39918.msg938749#msg938749 date=1173154724: WTF, I NEVER KNEW WE STILL HAVE LUNATIC LIKE U IN THIS WORLD. SO IF JESUS CHRIST NEVER EXIST SO I GUESS IT DEVIL THAT EXISTED THEN. ROLLING EYES LoL---LOL |
Christianity Etc › Re: Covering Of Hair For Christain Women, Is It Compulsory? by Nella(f): 12:20pm On Mar 09, 2007 |
it is said that covering of hair is conpusery, in Nigerian Churches, in ma Church in Nigeria we used 2 cover hair, but i come here 2 Portugal n they don't ( d same church). All d Churches i have seen here never cover their hair, but their branch in Nigeria do, so i don't know wat 2 say, but it dosen't mean that those peeps who don't cover their hair go 2 hell or something lyk that-----  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Christ Crucified? by Nella(f): 8:58am On Mar 09, 2007 |
just look at them!!! oh god have mercy!!!!!!!!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Christ Crucified? by Nella(f): 8:56am On Mar 09, 2007 |
babs787: O ma se o. Na wa o.Did I state in that post that "I was a Muslim"? You are suprised at the word "REVERTED". For your understanding, everybody born into this world is being born as Muslim, it is only the parents that changes the religion to their choice.
So if a christian changes to Islam, it means that he/she reverts to Islam being a religion of creation but most people use 'convert' for those changing to muslim.
Read the verse below for understanding
Quran 30 v 30: So set you (O Muhammed saw) your face towards the religion (of pure islamic monotheism) Harif (worship none but Allah alone). Allah's fitrah (i.e islamic monotheism) WITH WHICH HE HAS CREATED MANKIND. No change let there be in Khalq-Illah: that is the straight part but most men do not know.
Did you see the above verse.
Understood. So no lying.  PURE LIE!!!!! RRRRUBISH!!!! No one is born a muslim!!( God forbid!!) u might aswell stop quoting things 4rom d (stupid) quran, cuz lyk u know, we r mostly "CHRISTIANS" here n we simply consider everything in d quran RRRRUBISH N JUNK!!!( which is true!) EXCUSE ME! how can a religion that that encourages such violence b d true religion  Lol i still hold ma point : seriously u guys r blind folded!!! I mean any one in their right mind can know wat is right or wrong to do!! but u Muslims simply don't, D quran encourages u 2 kill n u do so!! d quran encourages violence n u practice it!!! Quran Sura 2:191: "Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers." Quran Sura 4:89: "Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Quran 4:34:, the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; Quran 5:33: "Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom." (Anyone who resist Islam is deemed to be making war with Allah)n wat do u know, but u blindfolded people acctually go practising diz stuffs!!! n yet u tell me islam is d rigt religion?!?!? u must b outta ya mind bro!!!!!
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Quran Fraud Contradictions Or Great Truths? Part 2 by Nella(f): 7:22pm On Mar 08, 2007 |
Posted by davidylan Oga nuru, what should those who accept islam be grateful for? That they have lost their freedom and have become slaves to a "god" without ears, eyes or mouth?[b][/b] lol gud question!!! well if u happen 2 accept islam, here r just some few things u have 2 do 4 ur islam god 2 love u n 4 u 2 enter into his f**king n fake kingdom!! Quran Sura 2:191: "Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers." Quran Sura 4:89: "Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Quran 4:34:, the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; Quran 5:33: "Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom." (Anyone who resist Islam is deemed to be making war with Allah)pretty normal stuffs hu?? ( do u mind practising any of this things??)  2 command such things he must b some CRAZY son of a B++CH!! n calls himsel God!!( besides he dosent exist) @ ur question: imagine d kind of reward u would get 4rom such useless thing that calls itself "GOD"!!!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Quran Fraud Contradictions Or Great Truths? Part 2 by Nella(f): 7:09pm On Mar 08, 2007 |
@babs787,thou i didn't exactly go back 2 reading d verse, i simply judged 4rom ur reaction, cuz when u were lyk : "hu? repenting? God repenting?" ( that was wat really got ma attention) it absolutely sounded lyk u meant repenting 4rom sin, which had nothing 2 do with d passage!!! 4 God never comittes sin!! right so i didn't exactly care 2 go back 2 reading d passage in d Bible which was y i didn't notice word "again" in d sentence which was y i said that u were wrong, ( but yet lyk i said God dosent punish some one 4 no reason, aywayz) wat annoyed me n got ma attention was ur reaction, i mean wat did u mean by d whole: hu? repenting? God repenting , wat did u mean by all that, cuz jus 4rom d way u said it, it simply gave out d message that wat u meant n understood was repenting 4rom sin!! ha ha lol!! imagine u saying d Bible has gat improper stuffs lol!!! do u even read d quran  ? well wat about d quran that practicly gives out messages of violence??!?!?? Quran Sura 2:191: "Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers." Quran Sura 4:89: "Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Quran 4:34:, the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; Quran 5:33: "Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom." (Anyone who resist Islam is deemed to be making war with Allah)JUST WAT HAVE U GAT 2 SAY about that?? how can even an adult read that  talkless of even a child!!!!! n wat do u know, but u muslims acctually go doing it!!!!! wat kinda God do u have 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongues: What's That All About? by Nella(f): 6:20pm On Mar 08, 2007 |
lent2007: st paul says,there must be somebody to interpret as u speak in tongue.so people who speak in tongues and there is no interpretation are waisting there time and energy.i  That's right  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Quran Fraud Contradictions Or Great Truths? Part 2 by Nella(f): 8:09pm On Mar 07, 2007 |
@babs787, nah, it's not just 4rom here, most of ur interpritations ( which i ve read ) of d Bible r wrong!!! n i guess that's d reason u normally ask such dumb n useless questions!! just lyk u have just done!!!! ok so ur reply 2 my post was this:"Okay, the Lord decided not to punish his people!. Meaning that He has been punishing them and decided to stop doing same. If I say I have been doing something and decides never to do it again, what does that mean to you? I know that God forgives but the emphasis is not on that but on repentance. Again, what does repentance mean to you?" No!!!( seriously r u that dumb??!!!) that simply wasn't wat i meant nor wat i wrote!!! i never said he has been punishing them i simply said he dicided not 2 punish them 4 something they did wrong, Note u that, there is a difference between this two sentence:"The Lord decided not 2 punish his people" AND " D Lord decided 2 stop punishing his people" n wat i said was d first one, n it has nothing 2 do with d first one which is past continous ( did u learn past continous tense in ur school?) well u said d word repent means " when one has been doing something n decides not 2 do it agin" i don't desagree wid u. Ok concerning that verse in d Bible, : did it say that d Lord was been punishing his people?? or did it say that d Lord ( bcuz of d wrong dey did) was thinking of punshing his people?? well sisnce ur own defination of repentance is when some one has been doing something n decides not 2 do it again, u should as well have figured it out that ( concerning d verse in d Bible) d Lord ( bcuz of d wrong d people) did was thinking of punishing them ( not that he has been punishing them) but he stoped think so bcuz he simply forgave them, lyk he ALWAYS does, understand  @ topic: The Quran Fraud Contradictions Or Great Truths?well my reply= D Quran is a piece of junk, burn it up any day i find it even in my back yard!!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Good Friday Miracle Night With Pastor Chris by Nella(f): 8:48am On Mar 07, 2007 |
Backslider: There is Miracle truely
But the Church is filled with the desire of Miracles and They seek it no matter who gives it. yea they don't seek the Righteousness of God sin is in the Church. Even unbelievers are seemly righteous than so called christians. seriously true!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongues: What's That All About? by Nella(f): 8:44am On Mar 07, 2007 |
Bobbyaf: I must confess though, that whether or not persons agree on the subject at hand, the whole debate has been a blessing to me. I have no doubt that there are sincere persons in the fora who are searching for answers, and I am more than confident that God is willing to give us answers.
Shalom. wat does diz mean  debate end  lol just kiddin, it has been great (head ache) arguing wid u any wayz  yea i guess some day we will get d right answer 4rom God, but when  ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Quran Fraud Contradictions Or Great Truths? Part 2 by Nella(f): 8:39pm On Mar 06, 2007 |
seriously bab787, u have compeletely no understanding watso ever of d Bible!!!!! I 'm really serious!!! One thing u don't know is that some words, when it comes 2 d Bible does not mean wat dey mean in our simple english, n that's some thing u ve just never understood. E.G: after writing d following passage : And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground anymore for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more everything living, as I have done. [Genesis 8:21] ur response was : " He repented?Huh?? And in the story of Moses, we read And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. [Exodus 32:14] God repenting?Huh? I know u weren't smart enough 2 figure dis out, but d repent which d Lord meant wasn't repenting 4rom sin or something lyk that, NO!! ".And in the story of Moses, we read And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people" this sentence simply wanted 2 say, that the Lord decided not to punish his people!! , bcuz obviously if God decides 2 punish someone, it is bcuz he or she deserved it!! but as a Good Lord that he is, most of d tyms he simply just 4gives us n decides 2 send no punisment!!!! Seriously where is Shahan  ? or does any one has enough patient 2 explain d whole Bible 2 this Guy?!?!?!?!?!?!? one advice 4 u babs787 : u should STOP reading d Bible bcuz u just come out understanding it d other way round!!! D quran is just a bunch of rubish!!!!!  |