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babapupa: 1. You did not fully read and comprehend the article you posted.How dumb can you be? You come with a claim that Fashola said this and that and expect me to believe without asking questions? If you are a sheep, please don't assume we all are. That is the reason the country is so messed up, cos no one ask questions. How can you claim Fashola said they will build a thousand housing units for those folks, meanwhile they demolished their houses without even documenting those that lived there in the first place. I'm supposed to believe that? So when the houses are completed, how will government know the people that lived there before without any documentation? Can you now see how dumb you are? If there's documentation, tell me there's one. If not, please stop quoting me if you have nothing sensible to say. I posted the link to the full story and stated that clearly. It was too long to post here. Sorry, I'm not a government azzlicker. |
Guk: 1,000 units of housing in Badia in Ijora where the main work will start this year.Much as I wish and hope that this turns out to be true, it just seems like it won't be. Did they tell that to those folks? Did they document those that lived there before the demolition? Did they get their forwarding address or tell them who to go and meet in due time to make their claim for getting a housing unit when it is completed? Did they tell them when these new units will get completed? From the story of how the place was demolished and the subsequent press conference, it doesn't look like there's a yes for any of these questions. |
Yoruba_Omoge: And claiming billionaire on NL Yoruba_Omoge: Forget them.The premise of your post is wrong. No one that criticizes a government should be taken as an enemy. Where Fashola does well, he gets his praise. Where he fumbles, he should be called out. THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS CITIZENS. We aren't sheep that should support government 100% of the time. That is also why the ACN folks are annoying. They never see anything good with the other side and equally never see anything bad with their side. I'm on neither side. Where there's good, whichever side it is, I appreciate it. I'm sure a few of the other guys here do too. I was actually pinning for Fashola to be vice-president the other day, cos in my view, despite this, he's still one of the best public administrators we have right now. Does that mean he's infallible? NO. Does that mean I should follow him like a sheep 100% of the time? No again. It isn't evil intent on my part if I don't. |
shymexx: I'm a marxist and all for the poor and unfortunate people... However, sometimes when the poor are too docile and comfortable in filth and poverty, you need an "action" to get a "reaction" from them... That's the case of the poor people in Nigeria, they're too docile, for crying out loud... How can be from a country as rich as Nigeria, watch uneducated fools loot all your sovereign wealth, yet you still don't want to fight for what rightful belongs to you...Great post Shymexx. It's also one of my frustrations with the Nigerian masses. I actually thought the fuel subsidy situation last year was going to be a watershed. Unfortunately, the labor movement that could have led it was bought over. This docility is a massive inertia that would need something great to get it moving. I hope that comes sooner rather than later. Anything short, progress may be made, but it will be in small, freakishly slow steps forward. |
infolekan: Sorry if I stepped on a nerve there......dint see it exposed.You didn't answer any of the questions. Forget about my nerves and answer them, strong man. I'm probably in a better place than you are. But that's talk for another day. My views are shaped by my upbringing and not my present state. Why is it that anytime government acts tough, it ends up being the poor who are paying and making sacrifices? That's the question. |
infolekan: Mr Man....leave God out of it.Yeah? Hulk Hogan. It is on the poor and defenseless that you show your power, but bow to the rich and powerful. What has the Nigerian or state governments done to tackle the rich? Are they immune from illegal acts? Why is it that anytime govt acts tough it's on the poor and helpless? Why do the police salute the rich but harass the poor? You are truly a product of a warped society that worships wealth and holds the poor in contempt. |
A-ZeD:Lol. How naive. The last person you should believe in a case of an injustice perpetrated by government is an official working for that same government. What did you expect him to say? Listen to the press conference by SERAP instead. Listen to the victims. Then make your judgement. Meanwhile, I did provide the link for the rest of the story. It was too long to post. |
infolekan: But the republicans you are quoting have produced more Presidents in the US than the democrats and I'm talking about more than double the number of democrat President.Since when? Quit telling me about Republican-Democrat politics. Democrats have won 5 of the last 6 presidential elections. Bush's win in 2000 was inspite of losing the popular vote, and to this day majority of Americans still think he shouldn't have been president. The popularity of the republican party is at an all time low. Let me be clear, there is nothing wrong with wanting a more humane place for these guys. Nothing wrong! Where it is wrong and indefensible is leveling their shanties without prior notice, and without providing alternatives for them or compensating those who had to lived there cos they were chased out of the national theater area originally. The feds got the place and moved them there. What do they do now? No government in the western world, no matter how noble their intent would do that to its citizens. NONE. Why? It is indefensible. |
kross_01: God bless you Neo.Thanks bro. babapupa: This is why we advise people with different ideas to run for elected office. You too can become the governor and do things your own way too. You can even throw out your state laws, let every interest groups have their way, forgo development and spend all your money building homes for beggars, illegal settlers, even set up a shop at the state borders and give the thousands trooping in daily money and free accommodation since they don't have a choice but to head to Lagos and st up slums on public land , let okada roam around lawlessly, let market people destroy your state with filth and hazardous materials, block your canals and disobey your laws. Let Lagosians know how nice and generous you are with their votes and money.What you have written here is complete nonsense. I am sure you were one of the people campaigning against the removal of fuel subsidy because that one affects you. This one doesn't, so they can all go and burn in hell. After all, are they not poor people? You are exactly the replica of the republican party here in the US. They only cater to the rich and powerful in society. The poor can go rot in hell as far as they are concerned. But the US also owes its greatness today to it's generosity on the not so powerful in the 1950s. They gave scholarships to all who fought in world war II so they can attend college. They set up medicare and social security so that people don't have to live out they old ages in abject poverty. That was how they built their middle class starting in the 50s. Right now most industrialized countries have free health care for both rich and poor. That is how countries develop - by catering to the poor. Cos once you are able to lift them out of poverty, the larger society is better for it. You wise men fail comprehend this immutable truth. Shame on you. |
Rossikk: The changes benefit everyone in the long run. And how come after each of these incidents, and the attendant hoopla of "thousands left homeless", you go back there the next day and none of those "homeless thousands" are anywhere to be seen. Where do they all go?How dumb and insensitive. They are the homeless you see around. They are the beggars at your window during traffic jams. They are the people living under bridges, hawking pure water that make you wonder how they are even able to feed with such meager earnings. You people seem to think that these guys had a choice but chose to build shanties in mosquito infested areas BECAUSE THEY LIKE IT. You also seem to forget that life moves in circles. You may be up today in your cozy houses and cars being insensitive to the poor and downtrodden, but it may not last forever. You may need help tomorrow and may receive the same treatment you hand out to these poor folks. It is people with your warped logic that we've been unfortunate to have as leaders that have brought this great country to her knees. A society is judged by how it treats its poor and helpless, and right now we are in a bad place. |
tomakint: Some people just want to come and 'die' in Lagos when actually what they are travelling down to look for in Lagos is right there where they were if only they can take a deeper look!Some of those people are Lagos indigenes. Where else do you want them to go? Your village? |
Eko Ile: The fact that it wasn't check before doesn't mean it has to continue or be tolerated. You can not show distaste for lawlessness, blame the government for lawlessness and at the same time blame the government again when they tackle lawlessness. You can not be on both sides of the fence.They should have "offered them something" BEFORE making them homeless, not after. What are they supposed to do in the meantime? All these is because they are missing the central point: these people are humans, not dogs. And Fashola should work with the legislature to make it illegal for landlords to demand more than 1 month rent in advance, as is done all over the world. That will help reduce the homelessness. The whole paying for 2, 3 years ish is totally absurd and makes housing more difficult to afford. They don't pay workers 2, 3 years salaries in advance, why should landlords demand that? It makes no sense. It's just greed. |
Eko Ile: So what would you have done as a leader? Sit around and watch the same poor people live in slums, squalor, dangerous and unhealthy environment and on top of that turn your society into lawless and illegal settlements like some hopeless jungle?What he would have done? 1. Stop the expansion of these communities so no new settlements spring up. Let's face it, the reason people do whatever they feel like in Nigeria is because of the bigger endemic problem of lawlessness from both leadership and the citizenry. You dare not behave lawlessly by building "illegal structures" anywhere you like in other civilized places. 2. If it is true that they moved there after federal govt got them out of national theatre area, then identify those that moved there originally and settle them. If they were all settled originally, then give them at least 3 months notice to vacate. There is even the contention that it is federal govt that acquired the place for those guys. These guys have no village somewhere to relocate to. They are yorubas for goodness sake. 3. Give all other people same 3 months notice to vacate, and on the day you get there, kindly give them adequate warning and time to pack there belongings and leave, if they haven't done so already. Someone should not have to lose his admission letter and travel documents cos you want to develop lagos. You're ruining his life. At any rate, a civil society group has picked up the case and I hope they get a settlement for them so they can rebuild their lives. Poor people also deserve a chance bro. |
FXKing2012: Have you bothered to research how Malam El Rufai transformed Abuja thus making it a Nigerian city to be proud of?The fact that El-rufai did it doesn't make it right. Whether Abuja makes you proud or not doesn't mean cities should be developed on the backs of the poor. These are people, families, we are talking about, not dogs. |
adconline: Fix the AC, elevator/escalator, build a mall like palms or polo park, kick out touts from the airport. Go into PPP with Brolls to build a mall to be annexed to the aiportMy point exactly. You have basics that aren't working, and the next thing you want to do is satisfy your megalomania. Your have a 2 kilometer road to the airport from apapa-oshodi that is in a bad shape. That's the first impression visitors get when they come into the country through lagos. Instead of fixing that, you want to build a 10,000 cap parking lot. For which cars? PapaBrowne: Not only do I dislike confident ignorance, I detest it!!"Class B airports with 50 million passengers in the U.S".Like thats news. Except perhaps you live in North Korea and are blocked off Google & Wiki.In your rush to write, you miss the whole point. What's the point of coming here to brag about something we all know you took off wikipedia? Passenger traffic is not the only consideration in the designation of airports, but it certainly is a factor, along with security, ground space, air space and flight level. It certainly connotes importance and prestige in countries where it is used, which is the point I was making. So instead of talking about my mouth...... And saying Dallas airport looked like crap is a big lie. Renovation or not, these guys do everything conscientiously, in an organized fashion, to cause as little disruption as possible. I know. You certainly weren't sweating like a pig when you were there, and you flight wasn't disrupted cos of renovations. And the place CERTAINLY didn't look like crap. So stop lying. The road from MMIA to apapa-oshodi is a very short stretch. Fix that first. Build a better airport, or completely remodel the one you have, then build your 10,000 cap PARKING SPACE. Even an slowpoke should know that that should be the natural progression of things. Stop putting the cart before the horse! Please tell that to your madam! Cheers. |
PapaBrowne: You must feel smart.Sorry to burst that, you are just being smart by half.How dumb! Going to the airport with all your family cos you're traveling? What culture is that? It indicates that there are countless jobless people sitting around with nothing better to do! 4 million passengers for an international airport is a very small number. There are class B airports in the US with 50 million passengers a year. If they have nothing better to do with money at the aviation ministry, they should build a modern airport then. Last time I was there (last year), it was still crap. And building parking spaces while the road to the airport is in a sorry state is still putting the cart before the horse. It is still the same government, no? You sound more like one of the contractors for the parking lot ![]() |
Provide verifiable sources for each of your claims. Anything short of that makes you sound like a campaigner |
What do they need a 10,000 capacity car park at an airport for? People don't live at an airport, and a small number of people work there. They should fix the roads to the airport first. Then expand the drive in, drive out spaces for people dropping off or getting picked up. That's how it's done. No one constructs a 10,000 capacity car park at an airport. People don't go to an airport for sightseeing. |
With all these news of people decamping en-masse from PDP to APC, the question on my mind is, if APC becomes the new tent for all these criminals and mediocre leaders, then what's the guarantee that it will do any better than the current PDP leadership. A party is only as good as it's members. True, APC should seek to widen it's tent, but it should not be done at the expense of credibility. All of PDP members should be barred from joining except they have some credible record. No point having another mega party full of charlatans. |
kross_01: its easy to say that when its nt u dt is in their position. If you made any research about the area in question or its people, you wld have known that the people being displaced are traditional lagosians who wia initially relocated to this present area when the FG took over their initial settlement to build the national theatre. Now i ask u, which village do u want them to go to? Why are we overtly insensitive to the plight of others in this country? These people in question were NOT even given notice b4 there settlement were demolished.during d press conference whch SERAP or so did, a young man said his admission letter & his travel docs wia all lost there as he never knew b4 hand of the demolision.dont say its good because u were nt affected, tomorrow it might get to u.Great post. That was the whole reason I wasn't comfortable with it. No prior notice, and apparently they moved there ON A LAND ACQUIRED BY THE FEDERAL GOVT solely to relocate them from the national theater area. So at the very least, the govt should have ascertained people that were originally affected, and moved them elsewhere, then give others 3 months notice to vacate. At the end of the day it is the same impunity that all of so-called leaders operate with. They feel they are our lords instead of our representatives, so they do whatever they want without consideration of the lives being affected. There will always be poor people in Lagos, no matter how egalitarian they want to make it. Even NYC has beggars and the homeless. Enough with the inhumanity in the guise of developing Lagos! |
Ukrainian investors are making plans to inject $2.6 billion into the reactivation of Ajaokuta Steel Company Limited.Great news coming out of Naija in a long time, as far as I'm concerned. Like I said in my manifesto piece, this is one of the foundations on which a developed Nigeria has to be built. With a potential capacity to employ 2 million workers directly or indirectly through the numerous feed companies around iron ore mining and steel production, it has always amazed me why government after government allowed the place to rut. The industrial revolution in europe and America was built on the back of iron and steel mining. I hope they revamp the place and get to full production capacity. Kudos to all involved! |
It's a good thing to have an ambitious governor that wants to develop lagos fast, but it shouldn't be done on the backs of the poor. Leadership should have a human face. |
LAGOS, Nigeria — The young man with the crowbar stood on a heap of rubble — planks, pallets, remains of pots, bits of cardboard, wisps of clothing, chunks of concrete — indistinguishable from every other pile in a field of debris stretching far into the distance. “This is the home I am staying in before Fashola demolished it,” said John Momoh, 28, looking down at the pile, referring to the governor of Lagos, Babatunde Fashola. Mr. Momoh, a driver, searched doggedly for anything salvageable — a nail, a board — in the mess. Government backhoes came in and plowed through Mr. Momoh’s simple wooden dwelling and some 500 like it last Saturday, instantly making homeless perhaps 10,000 of Lagos’s poorest residents and destroying a decades-old slum, Badia East. For days, residents wandered the chaotic rubble-strewn field, near prime Lagos real estate. They were dazed and angry. Small children slept on the muddy ground. Men climbed the mounds of rubble, searching. In intense heat, women, men and children said they were hungry and sleeping outside. The government had destroyed their present, they said, without making any provision for their future. “I lost everything,” Mr. Momoh said. “We are trying to bring out some sticks, to look for our daily bread,” he said, poking the rubble. “We don’t have money to eat.” A 30-year-old cook, Kingsley Saviouru, said: “They demolished everything. They didn’t give us anything. We are here, suffering.” Under Lagos’s energetic governor, much lauded in the international financial media, this crowded megalopolis of high rises, filthy lagoons, fierce traffic jams and sprawling slums, home to perhaps 21 million people, has proclaimed its ambition to become the region’s, if not Africa’s, premier business center. Infrastructure and housing projects abound, including a light-rail network whose trestles already vault crowded neighborhoods, and a vast upmarket Dubai-style shopping and housing development built out into the Atlantic Ocean, inaugurated last week by former President Bill Clinton. A new Porsche dealership has opened in the financial district. In this gleaming vision, the old Lagos of slums has an uncertain future. Two-thirds of the city’s residents live in “informal” neighborhoods, as activists call them, while more than one million of the city’s poor have been forcibly ejected from their homes in largely unannounced, government slum clearances over the last 15 years, a leading activist group says.Last summer, there was a brief outcry when government speedboats bearing machete-carrying men cleared out the floating neighborhood of Makoko, making some 30,000 people homeless. At the vast city dump at Ojota, where thousands eke out a living, shacks are cleared out frequently, residents complained. The Nigerian government’s untender approach to its poor, who account for at least 70 percent of the population, was again on full display last Saturday at Badia East, where even more demolition — another 40,000 live there — is now threatened. The scene Saturday was classic: a black police vehicle pulled up early, armed, uniformed policemen sprang out to quell any restiveness, and the backhoes went to work under the eyes of dismayed residents, slashing through thin wood and concrete block. Street toughs — called “Area Boys” in Lagos, and often employed by the state government’s demolition squad for around $10, activists said — got busy where the backhoes could not penetrate, smashing flimsy structures with sledgehammers and, Mr. Momoh and others said, stealing residents’ possessions. Many said they were given 20 minutes, at most, to pack up their belongings. “Everybody was running helter-skelter,” said a resident, Femi Aiyenuro, adding that those who went back in to retrieve possessions risked being beaten with rifle butts and batons. “They started beating people.” What little that could be salvaged was piled along a railway line running along Badia’s edge. Read full story here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/02/world/africa/homeless-pay-the-price-of-progress-in-lagos-nigeria.html?pagewanted=1&hp |
Neo-XVI: |
Everyone has at least seen a picture of the White house. It is actually open to the public from Tuesdays through Saturdays, parts of it at least. So also is Downing street and the Elysee Palace, the English and French seats of governments respectively. So why doesn't anyone even have a picture of Aso rock, not to talk of tourists taking a tour? If it is a GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, then why are people shut out so callously? I understand it was built by a military regime, but we are supposed to have a democracy now. The least they can do is allow us see what they did with our money. It isn't a monarchy where we have no say. https://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/whitehouse.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/10_Downing_Street_2010.jpg https://www.atkielski.com/PhotoGallery/Paris/General2/images/ElyseePalaceLarge.jpg |
With 451 projects to be completed this year, looks like we are on the right track. I hope they fulfill that promise. @sincerenigerian, pls what is the current installed generating capacity in Nigeria? Figures on the net are all over the place. And what is the projected capacity at the end of the year, with the current projects completed? |
ak47mann: SEEING IS BELIEVINGNice. The policemen should leave the road though. |
BlackBaron: So what political spectra would they propose if serious ?Like Gbawe said in another topic, most of the parties making up APC are left wing (left of center). PDP is more right of center |
kay9: ^^^If crude exports and FG executives' bumper pays are factored into the GDP, then it prolly explains the ridiculous claim that GDP is improving... Did u guys see the last budget proposal? All that orishi-rishi mega wastages, they jejely compute it into the GDP...Good points you raised there. A few points to note on why we don't feel any better with increasing GDP 1. Government spending is factored in but the sad situation in Nigeria is that government spending does not percolate to the Nigerian populace. It's concentrated in the hands of a few and corruption eats up a big chunk, so even if it increases, the vast majority of the populace doesn't feel it. The finance ministry can release a break down on the components making up our GDP (can't find any ready data online). I suspect that government spending is a big reason why it increases. 2. Our GDP can practically explode if we cut down on importation and build home-grown industries. Our net export is negative because we are basically an import-based economy. The only meaningful thing we export is oil, and even on that we are massively short-changed by the corruption in NNPC. 3. The component of GDP that measures living standard accurately is consumer spending. The more money people get, the more they spend. So all other components may increase to drive up GDP, but if consumer spending doesn't increase then people's living standard doesn't. 4. Another real measure of GDP is per capita GDP, which is a country's GDP divided by its population. With an increasing population, the impact of an increasing GDP is dampened. |
anulaxad: I like some of your points but again some are really useless.I MEAN WHAT'S THE POINT OF TRAINING THEM ABROAD.cant you just educate the people by bringing in people or buying books supplies and stuff to train them.I don't remember advocating that anyone be trained abroad. Read again. I actually think it's a lame policy, cos most of them will not return to the country to add value to it. kelvincoll: @Op this is a wonderful manifesto only how realistic is this in Nigeria? I commend your effort, however I'm more concerned with the part that stressed about enacting Laws and if only these Laws re followed to the later ds country would be better off.True. I remember Yar'adua's inaugural speech in 2007 where he talked about being a servant leader. For the first time in a long time I actually had hope that things would begin to turn around cos he seemed so sincere. Don't know why things took a turn for the worst instead. Whether it was his poor health, poor leadership skills, an underestimation of how bad things were, or whether he was just a regular, lying politician, I still don't know. But he seemed sincere to me that day |
Sincere 9gerian: Those your plans are detailed and good. But good and detailed plans hav never been a problem in Nigeria. If only you did an analysis of the financial implications of those plans, you would have realised that the funds available for work in the current structure cannot execute 10% of those your plans. Toaskarity: Morover about ur building this, building that. How will you generate money to build all those? I think ur promise is jst same with every other nigeria politician, you need money son, nigeria isnt as rich as u dream!That's correct, which is why it is a manifesto, or vision. You're merely setting an plan that will guide your actions hence. Of course you have to generate income first, so if you stamp out corruption in the revenue streams such as oil, and begin to tax everyone and expand the tax paying base as you go, then you have a prayer. I understand Ajaokuta alone, if fixed, has the potential of employing about 2 million people directly or indirectly. Constant power supply should massively increase commerce..... and tax revenues. These are important markers to start from and work from there as you go. |

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