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jamace: ] Stop saying that. Suggest your NEW IDEAS. You think leadership na classroom work?

Na, no be classroom work, na rocket science. Olodo. No wonder no country has ever gotten leadership right, so we shouldn't blame poor Jonathan with a PhD. I wonder what research that guy did, if he actually did any, and what happened to what he learnt about approaches for solving problems.

Homework for you, dumbito, go through my posts, you'll surely find suggested ideas from a layman like me.

Dospix: I am hoping that things would be better in Nigeria, but i don't really trust the opposition party. Their actions and decisions really put me in doubt if really they are capable of steaming the wheel of this country to a positive direction. I am just hoping you wouldn't regret voting for Buhari if eventually he manages to become the president of Nigeria.

Can you now see how dumb you are? You're hoping, abi? Keep hoping, until you grow old and die. Don't do something else. Keep voting the same people that have been there 14 years without any significant change, and KEEP HOPING that somehow things will change.

It is called madness - to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result. Your post sef smacks off dumbito. Where did you get your 80% figure from? Did you conduct a poll?

Keep hoping o, hoper. Na you try pass.

Dospix: I have noticed your comment on various threads...you seem to be saying the same thrash...i pity for you because a time will come when you will receive the same fire for fire. We insult and and call our leaders all kinds of name without making sensible contribution towards correcting those issues. Some of you might argue that they don't listen, but your comment might in one way or the other pass a message to them.

Bia, nwoke stop following me about. Are you gay? Keep your pity to yourself, olodo

Chima_Adeoye: Nigerians are the funniest people on earth indeed to even think America will send their soldiers to die in senseless battles in black AFRICA! Even Britain that put the sick country together has not given a penny in support of stopping the violence in northern Nigeria. We are expecting America to worry about the sick "african countries"

Don't mind the ignorant folks. They already arguing whether they want or not
Over 80,000 peeps are dead in Syria already and the US is not interested, even when Syria shares a bother with Isreal. And they think Nigeria would interest the US. Keep dreaming guys.

Those who make the laws cannot even be trusted to obey it...

Jonadunce and his clueless retinue of charlatans.

integrobreed: God pliz save us. carin nigerians pliz pray 4 us. gunshots! explosns, bullets ar flyin in d air. we ar nt sure wat is hapnin bt we ar suspectin its boko haram. one of my studnts came n told me d police statn is on fire. its nt safe 4 me 2 run so i'm hiding smwhre in d sch i'm teachin here in daura.

Our prayers are with you. Please don't venture out until daylight.

mbhs139: Nigerians and our double standard. In fact, I have quietly copied the link to the former thread where everyone was lambasting ACN Lai Muhammed for faulting GEJ's action on SoE thing. don't worry, time will tell. I think with this SoE thing, we ought to see the end of BH within the next six months, otherwise, I think SoE, particularly without total control by the military by removing the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED OFFICIALS (THROUGH CONSTITUTIONAL MEANS) is a failure.

Bros check my previous posts. I never supported the SOE thing. It didn't work before so there's no guarantee it will work now. They say it's madness to keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. The situation calls for new ideas but our govt is too lazy to think.

I.Joan:
naija just dey turn pakistan for our very eye

e no funny at all. how sad

I smell payback for CPC's approval of SOE. Maybe the muslims shielding these folks will finally see that they are pure evil..... someday

On another note, I guess those who said the SOE would only expand the battlefield for these guys (as they will begin to venture inland) are being vindicated. GEJ should have just quietly deployed soldiers and the airforce to secure the borders to prevent arms smuggling while systematically wiping off their leaders. All this gra gra open aggression may be counter productive in the end.

Paschal007: You all got jokes. At the end of the day they'll still be allowed to wear their hijab. Is it me or this title just too sensational? 'Lied to the whole World'? Please don't flatter yourself.

No mind the cows. Always wanting to be treated differently and given special privileges cos of the same religion that has done more harm than good to this world. Abegi make we hear word.

siddiq202: Don't worry, rumour has it that JAMB will remark and reduce the cut off mark. You will be busy before the year runs out.
For now it's your bed time.

Olodo with narrow thinking. So we must all live in Nigeria with the same timezone to be on NL? So your taboo has no proof abi? Can you shut up now?

siddiq202: ^^^ Miss/Mrs dont forget that you are having a discussion with a Nigerian.

What is your proof that it's a taboo for a lady to wear something else

No one gives a rat's azz about your taboos. Keep your religion private and stop imposing it on the public! What effrontery! Taboo ko, Fela's pant ni. All the muslim girls that don't wear it, are they dead? Or are they less than humans?

Unless you can prove that if muslim girls don't wear it they'll die or something terrible will happen to them, then your argument doesn't hold water either. You can take it and stuff it.

kross_01: if we are to allow the open display of religion in public schools, ur faith might tomorrow be in jeopardy as my own religous belief and things i hold sacred may be taboo to your beliefs. What do you think will happen if say tomorrow a snake worshipper sues the government that he/she is not allowed to bring his sacred religous item(snake in this case) to a public school, will you openly still stand behind him in defence of his right this way? I only made reference to france for you so you'll know that it didnt start with nigeria or lagos at that.

That is what they fail to realize. How does your religious tenets affect me? Nigeria is a secular state.

The BH issue today started from these so-called "little" little accommodations, then we had sharia law in some states. Ultimately even that wasn't enough. Now they want it in the entire country and the cessation of western education. And since we have refused, it has become outright WAR! Am I the only one that is tired of these muslims and how they always want special privileges?

NIGERIA IS A SECULAR STATE. GET THAT INTO YOUR THICK SKULLS!

siddiq202: Until you realize that hijab is not just a piece of cloth for a particular place/time/people but a religious obligatory for all Muslims (except the old). Replying you will be a waste of time.

One thing you can ALWAYS count on a muslim to do is lose all sense of reasoning and persuasion when it comes to their religion. So how is it our problem or task to help your practice your PRIVATE religion?

Which part of PUBLIC don't you understand? Practice your PRIVATE religion in private. Spare us the melodrama in PUBLIC schools. Is that too hard to grasp?

siddiq202: @bold You are right.

We are talking about PUBLIC schools for crying out loud! Are Muslims taxes not among the money used to pay the teachers . Or are you saying that Muslims are not entitle to government facilities Don't you get it that not wearing hijab means that they are disobeying their Lord

Apparently, you have no clue what public means. It means for everyone, no special rules. If you want your special privileges, go form your own institution like CU and take your beliefs there. Simple. That's what private organizations do. As for public entities, they are not OBLIGATED to make accommodations for religious beliefs. Nigeria is a SECULAR state. As far as I'm concerned, they should stop all the hypocritical xtian/muslim prayers in public schools and events!

Take your sectarian/religious beliefs to such schools like CU did. No one will argue with you. Don't try to impose yourselves on PUBLIC institutions! Is that simple enough for you to understand?

siddiq202: Take a deep breath. Trust me, it helps.

Don't give yourself unnecessary headache. The use of hijab in public schools by whoever wishes to use it is not too much to ask. If you ask me...

No one should have to bend over for you guys everyday! It is a PUBLIC institution. You hear? PUBLIC!

gramci: Thumbs up musiwa, going by arguments presented by muslims, nudists should come nude to school.

Exactly! Every institution has its rules. If you can't obey them, don't join! Covenant university has its rules. They are within their rights to set those rules, and no one is obligated to go there. But if you do, you have no right to shout discrimination because you think you're special and everyone should bend over to accommodate your weird beliefs.

Why must muslims continually create tensions and/or violence wherever they find themselves? It is a PUBLIC school for crying out loud! If you don't want to show ur face in public then sit at home. Your wahala has become too much I swear. Everywhere muslims are, it's always strife, strife.

What lousy denial of right is that? Schools have rules. You obey them or you GET OUT! We don't have to bend over to accommodate your lousy rules everyday! They can attend islamic schools if they want. No one is stopping them.

Mods in the house, why do you guys keep hiding posts that call out islam and the ignorant fellow alnajiri or whatever, but leave his own posts debasing christianity

https://www.nairaland.com/1290733/boko-haram-kills-borno-secretary-minutes/8#15739099

What is the meaning of that? If you hide one, then hide all, and stop taking sides so glaringly. It's called f00lishness.

omo harry: What is thier point.when a house is on fire the first everybody do is to get water and quench the fire after that before they can now ask what started the fire in the first place.Right people are dying and all ACN has to say is to conderm.Have they even brough out solution other than to be pessimistic about jonathan's goverment.Useless polital leaders that we have.Abeg i dey vex jo.

Reactionary measures have never worked to solve any problem. There have been emergency rules before in those places, what did it achieve? The BH issue has been there for years, what have they been doing?

The solution is right there in front of them: seal off the borders and cut off the arms supply. You do not need a genius to tell you that they'll become impotent if you can do that. Instead of wiping out entire villages including innocent people, the army should target and eliminate the leaders and commandos of BH as well as their cells and arms storage units. They should have enough intelligence on who those people are by now. If they don't have that then they don't deserve to be called intelligence units.

Solving unemployment and poverty is a long term issue. But cutting off arms supply can be done now and would be very effective. How long will SOE last, and what happens after that? Back to the status quo I guess.

Love it or hate it, they have very valid points.

na wa o. Grown a$$ men behaving like kids on a playground. How sad
Bigotry lowers your IQ and narrows your view. Please abstain

This is the first time musiwa made sense to me after all these years

It is sad indeed. Same open hall, different classes! How are they supposed to hear what the teachers say, not to talk of understanding what's said?

btw, tell us the school name and location, so we're sure it's in Lagos. Not that it reduces the significance if it's somewhere else, but just so the Tinubu goons don't start causing commotion

Sad, if true

SAN FRANCISCO, May 14, (THEWILL) – Barely 30 minutes after President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan declared a state of emergency in Borno State alongside two other states because of terrorism, the Secretary of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN), in the state, Reverend Faye Pama Musa has been shot dead inside his Maiduguri residence by members of the radical Islamic group, the Boko Haram

THEWILL gathered from security sources that Musa, the head pastor of a Pentecostal church in Maiduguri, the spiritual headquarters of the terrorist group, was trailed to his GRA residence by two gunmen who shot him at close range at about 7.30pm.

CAN Headquarters Confirms Assassination With “Heavy Heart”

The headquarters of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) has confirmed the murder of Reverend Musa.

Describing the killing of its Secretary in Borno State as “sad”, Kenny Asaka, the media aide to the National President of CAN, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, sad the President received the news with a “heavy heart.”

The Boko Haram, a group of radical Islamic fundamentalists has claimed responsibility for hundreds of attacks that has killed over 2000 persons and wounded dozens.

The group says it wants Northern Nigeria to be governed under strict Islamic laws (Sharia).

http://thewillnigeria.com/politics/20789.html

X-factoria:
Shame on Dr Aliyu! He should have stated his own opinion on what will work. If you read in between the lines, it is not the fact that he thinks it won't work, it is just another noise from a never-see-anything good in GEJ's government.

Nothing GEJ does will impress the opposition they must pick holes. That is their shallow and pathetic understanding of opposition. Just wait till you see ACN, CPC and APC come out to cry wolf tomorrow.

I'm not denying that. But think about it for a minute, is it that hard to seek deeper solutions aside the easy SOE? He could have proposed solutions if he wanted - which would be better of course - but that does not demean what he was saying. We must learn to rely on empirical facts about the solutions we have previously used. SOE has a poor track record. Why continue to use it?

See my own proposed solutions here, after just asking myself a few questions:

https://www.nairaland.com/1290555/state-emergency-best-option-boko-haram/1#15728742

It didn't take more than 5 mins. If they sit on it for a whole day, they can come by very brilliant, workable solutions. But I guess they're too lazy....

gramci: Shame on Dr Aliyu Tilde, long epistle no alternative solution. They are scared cos the military is closing in on them.

He may not have proposed solutions, but pointing out the woeful track record of SOE is a good public service in itself. If the govt is actually trying to solve the issue long term, they should know what to do. It shouldn't be that hard to think through.

The Futility of Emergency
By Dr. Aliyu U. Tilde

The President, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, has just bought another dummy called state of emergency from his security chiefs.

He thinks it will work. I think it will not.

Jonathan’s state of emergency is different from that of Obasanjo. Unlike under Obasanjo, this one keeps the offices and privileges of political office holders intact in the states where it will operate. The only difference is that the security of the state will be vested in the hands of the military and some constitutional rights of citizens of their citizens will be suspended. This is the interpretation I just heard from Yahaya Mahmud, SAN, on the BBC.

If these are the only differences, it will be difficult to see how they will afford the military victory over Boko Haram.

The military has enjoyed full access and support of the governments in the affected states, effectively subordinating the governors at every given point. Governors had no say in anything, if I can remember very well, except in standing straight to be milked by the khaki boys for logistics, providing relief to victims and appealing to them to accept violations of their rights in good faith, a fate from God or a national sacrifice.

The military also enjoyed the full privileges of using force – many times excessive – on any citizen they without hindrance from the state governments in the past two years. No father has ever taken the JTF to court, to my knowledge, over the arrest of his son who was detained without charge at Giwa Barracks – the Nigerian version of Guantanamo. The son that may not have anything to do with Boko Haram. Nobody has taken them to the International Criminal Court in spite of the war crimes that have been documented by local and international human rights groups: the extrajudicial killings of suspected members of Boko Haram and civilians, the detentions without trial, the tortures of detainees, the burning of neighbourhoods and sections of towns, the alleged rapes, arson, the ransacking of homes, etc.

And I doubt very much if the police, from the Inspector-General of Police to his Commissioners in the states, have constituted any obstacle to the operation of the JTF. Instead, the police have wisely remained pegged in their paramilitary positions in the JTF structure and operations.

Finally, a quarter of our budget goes to security, the largest portion of it obviously to JTF operations. Most Nigerians believe that if any government agency should complain of underfunding, it must not be any of the JTFs. They get money from the federal government above, from the state governments below and from sideways when we citizens make the mistake of falling, or are forcefully dragged, into their net. An idea even occurred to me that one of the best outlets for my Country Yoghurt would be military and police barracks. I will soon be there collecting my own share of the booty before the politicians start their campaigns in 2014 – if Boko Haram will approve them permits!

So what exactly has hindered the military so much that they needed to compel Mr. President to give them a state of emergency to operate under?

The state of emergency is also futile from the records so far. Two days ago, a senator from Borno State revealed that 23 to 24 of the 27 local governments in the state are under the effective control of Boko Haram. If despite the resources, the personnel, the Giwas, Bagas, Maiduguris and Damaturus, government has lost 87% of the territory in Borno to Boko Haram, I wonder what additional powers to the military would achieve.

A significant shift though would be the mass deployment of soldiers to the affected areas. With the sophistication of Boko Haram, our sons in the military will just be turned into cheap targets. There will be so many of them to aim at easily, more to destroy in a spot.

I am at loss here – completely. What has the state of emergency achieved when it was declared under this regime in some local governments including those now under Boko Haram occupation?

I would like to conclude this article by stating a woeful statistics on the incapacity of successive governments to solve our national problems: Government in Nigeria has not been able to solve a single problem in various areas of governance and the economy, to my knowledge, in the past 28 years. A problem at the beginning of a regime will remain there until it ends – accompanied by many news ones. And so our wahala continued to pile up.

I need to be convinced how declaration of the state of emergency could make Boko Haram an exception.

14 May 2013

https://www.facebook.com/A.U.Tilde

Nigerian leaders have always been poor in creativity and approach to solving problems. There's insecurity in the land, so implement state of emergency and it will be solved. Yes? Wish it were that simple.

Question to ask yourself is, what did the last state of emergency from Dec 31, 2011 to July 18, 2012 solve?
Are we looking for a temporary panacea or a long term solution and eradication of the menace?
What have our security agencies been doing since this BH issue reared up? Have they acquired intelligence dossiers on those involved, who their financiers are, how they get their guns and ammo, how their logistics are organized, how many, and the spread of their sleeper cells?

This is only a feel good measure. Nothing more. Nothing stops the BH boys from moving to Jigawa, Taraba, Bauchi, Gombe or Kano. I am no security expert but I think they can do a few more meaningful things like

- put the northern borders on lock down. I don't know the amount of trade across the northern border, but I don't think it is much anyway
- freeze the assets of their Nigerian financiers, and prosecute these folks. Until people start paying the price for their crimes, the status-quo will remain.
- cut off their arms supply. Very important
- infiltrate and destroy their cells
- take out (assassinate) their more influential leaders and commandos.
- immobilize their logistics. These guys can't possibly have a sophisticated operation. Haba!

And while you're slowly decapitating them, still leave the amnesty option open. They will soon start coming to the table voluntarily. Nobody dey tell mad man say rain dey fall.

obisage: U are a certified fool. And it's only a fool like u that thinks he knows everything.
A wise man knows that he don't know everything.

Onukwu igala!!!

The time you took to rant would have been better served if you just googled it to educate yourself.

Typical Nigerian. You refuse to take responsibility for your life and you're waiting for your mates to spoon-feed you. At your age! Olodo!