₦airaland Forum

temi4fash:
Snet u a mail a while back.. hope u got it

sorry about that...will look for it

rudebouy:
U didnt answer my question. Is the 3 billion dollars the approximate cost for gas plant or for hydropower plant?

netotse:
The gas plant would be cheaper hands down but the availability of gas is the main obstacle. There are a lot of projects competing for the gas expected to come on stream in the next couple of years.

The 3 billion is an estimate for a gas plant, the rule of thumb is 1 million USD per MW

rudebouy:
So which is easier and less expensive to achieve, building a 3,000MT gas power plant or building a 3,000 hydro power plant?

Besides, wot if the gas power plant is to be sited in the south where der is enof natural gas deposits?

The gas plant would be cheaper hands down but the availability of gas is the main obstacle. There are a lot of projects competing for the gas expected to come on stream in the next couple of years.

You're right the advantage power plants like Ughelli and Azura have is their closeness to supply, it makes the plants less susceptible to disruptions due to vandalism. However, getting that amount of gas would require you using non-associated gas(NAG), the current tariffs being paid for gas-to-power dont provide enough of an incentive for companies to develop NAG project.

Something to think on though, the 3000MW power plant will cost approx 3 billion USD to build (minus transmission lines and all), which state government can afford to drop that money? The same ones that can't pay salaries abi?

rudebouy:
Are you for real, so you mean a state can decide to build a 3,000MW capacity plant on its own and FG will not interfer?

Off the top of my head I will tell you that you will not find gas for a 3000MW gas-fired power plant if you expect it to come on stream between now and 2018, that's a major obstacle.

LASG built circa 12MW power plants, do you know how they get gas to the power plants? they would probably truck it in as CNG or get supply from one of NGCs franchise holders, both of which would be hard pressed to enough gas.

The tariffs are another issue, who will fund 3000MW at the current tariffs? getting a license from NERC is not the major obstacle, achieving financial closure is.

rudebouy:
Ah! Ah! But when Fashola was building his 10/12 MW capacity power plants, he sed sth like " dis is wot we are allowed to do according to the law".

Wot does dat imply?

if you meet the requirements for a license you will be granted it doesn't matter whether you're a state or local govt, it's extremely likely they had other constraints (e.g. funding or fuel supply) that led to whatever restriction Fashola was referring to.

@Bizbloke
sent you a mail about shipping a HTC one from the US, I'd like to know the duration and cost.
I would be sending the phone to you.

rudebouy:
Pls do you know the MW limit placed on states by the FG dat state can generate?

there isn't any limit

salsera:
Hey Coach TV01

Seen the videos though I first fear hehe but I'll try them out and let you know which I find difficult to do
SO i need to get the weights and buy skipping rope
I intend to sort out next week and start.


Thanks

buy a proper skipping rope, not one of the cloth/fabric ones, a leather or nylon(speed) rope will do. You can also buy one with weighted handles if possible.

pickabeau1:
have u gotten the info from ajanlekoko

no, not yet.

5minsmadness:
Just finished watching MAD MAX and INTERSTELLAR on HD.
Both lovely.

That mad max sucked big time Jo...the only plus to watching it was that it was with the missus. Wasted two hours of my life...Lol.

http://africaoilgasreport.com/2015/06/petroleum-people/okoye-is-ceo-of-neconde/

since a lot of this thread was spent analysing Neconde thought this would be interesting...lol

Onegai:
Birth Story:

Baby E and I have spent today with visitors and learning how breastfeed properly

Hey...Congrats

edwife:
Thunder fire you , you very well know what i am talking about.You and iyke were seen in the soccer thread spying.

Say the truth today is Sunday,did you see the pictures or not?

I might have possibly seen something that I might not have really seen because I was not supposed to even see in the first place...

formerlyMbulela:
No need for any website. Just go to Ajanlekoko. He is the fountain of wisdom in such matters. He is difficult to get hold of maybe you will be luckier than others who have tried reaching him.

Me and Ajanlekoko are def going to talk(when my money complete), trying to find someone with industry perspective. [size=4pt]Seems you know a bit about the industry sef...I remember you asking someone who said his dad hadn't been settled something.[/size]

edwife:
Netotse oya come and talk to me,you and I know why....

Lmao, I have no idea what you'alking about...besides, my mother has warned me about talking to older women

5minsmadness:
What is trolling?

I have seen similar threads which is where i got the idea from and none were deleted.

Trolling is looking for trouble if you ask me...as per bolded, that doesn't make it right, you created a thread with a deceptive topic, all your fans (feminazis included) trooped to said topic and found it to be a fraud, I'm sure there's something in the ever-present but selectively-applied NL rules against that.

5minsmadness:
My Pre-wedding Pics by 5minsmadness.

Lol...bros, you know you were trolling with that thread jo.

formerlyMbulela:
What sort of advice?

Hi...I'm approaching an inflection point in my career, want to make sure I'm not missing anything.

jpphilips:
You still don't have any ideas uptill now? so what are you doing here?
This thread is for people who have got the ideas, can you open your own thread and continue with your buffoonery pls!!
I won't ask you nicely again.

Chairmain...you're coming across as a proud person, granted, it's easy to see that you're knowledgeable in some areas but you still make some funny mistakes that out you as not being as rounded as you seem to potray yourself as being.

@kaboninc

AWOL?...nah, I switched off when you and that fellow started insulting each other on the subsidy thread...there wasn't anything for me to learn there...how's your end?

AjanleKoko:
Why not just pay AjanleKoko directly

Not sure I remember what you're referring to sha.

Oga na electrician I wan follow talk...my money never complete to pay for your time na.

@pickabeau1 and Ajanlekoko
hey...there was this site you guys were discussing sometime back you could pay a token to talk to more experienced people, trying to remember the site, shopping for advice.

onegig:
Read the books. Can't remember this happening. She didn't return to winterfell and theon escaped at winterfell. It was his new bride jenlyne or so that got the treatment.

Guess they veered ofcourse in the movies. Not a fan of the movie and that was a cruel and unneeded plot. We all know how bad Bolton was, but adding that is a bit awkward and going too far..

I can't wait for the last book to come out...no jokes, I rarely ever watch screen adaptations, too much gets lost in translation.

@jpphilips
I'm still waiting for your comments on gas

jpphilips:
@ Kabonic

How will DSO affect gas supply? Humour me...

UjSizzle:
You will find another love and she will be perfect for you too.
And no one expects you to erase memories of your first, she'll special and always be. But open up to someone else. Pray to God to heal your wounds and when he's ready to, please allow the instrument of his choosing to administer the balm to your wounded heart.
Some people know love just once in a lifetime, some never find it (tragic I know). But there are the lucky few who are blessed to have it twice in one lifetime-- you'll be one of them. Honour your wife's memory and remember she'd want you to be happy too. If nothing, let yourself live again for her.

I read this a long time ago, "Love happens more than once, but never the same way."
Keep that in mind

Can you or ishilove show the guy serubawons post about being a widower...on my phone so doing it is wahala....

I agree with this article, as a guy, a lot of times it's your manly pride that does you in...lol

kaboninc:
Netotse,
I see you oh
Kwontinue!

had high hopes for this thread but oh well...

jpphilips:
Is that what you understand by remediation?

Ok, since you're obviously not going to come out and make whatever point it is you're hinting at...I'm done

jpphilips:
What do you understand by remediation in the oil and gas industry?

Yep...

jpphilips:
If you read my post and asked that question on your first paragraph, it is better I ignore you completely.
you can as well just read the comments without making any input.
I have a reasonable experience in remediation so I cant join issues with Nebo, it was Nebo who told us about the vandalism and Barth nnaji told us the quick fix at Geregu.
If you think I expect Nebo to replace pipelines, then you insult my intelligence.
Show me a picture of a vandalized ASME B31.8 tag, that is the only evidence I need to take Nebo serious.

For the records, gas pipelines heading to gas plants are not lucrative, only a f00l will sabotage them.

Boss, no insults intended, I was wondering why you expect Nebo to show you pictures of damaged pipelines for you to believe?
He neither owns nor operates any gas pipelines so why? He would tell you about the vandalism because it affects his performance not because he is responsible. (I can give you links showing David Ige talking about Electricity transmission, what does that prove?)
Bros, the singular act of quoting that standard wrt vandalism tells me you don't understand what gas-to-power is about.

However, because it's thursday and I'm feeling nice, here, *
oh BTW, the crater in the picture you see was caused by the explosives used to blow up the pipeline, I'd be very much interested in knowing what part of ASME B31.8 talks about the pipelines that can with stand explosions from dynamite strapped to it.

There are some f00ls that want to sabotage the reforms in the electricity sector that's why they blow up the pipelines, I can't remember which incident exactly but there was an incident of vandalism that some group claimed responsibilty for and said it was as a result of the gas city brouhaha late 2014.

The case of TFP is the major one we've been experiencing this year though and that is economic vanalism.

*I personally received a force majeure notice when that pipe was damaged so I'm not talking about hearsay.

jpphilips:
Like I said, I can't join issues with Nebo till I am convinced beyond reasonable doubt, pipeline operations is not done in the moon, if Nebo can see vandalized gas pipelines, why not me? does he have a special eye?
Imagine saying that sectional replacement cost over 140m, bros!! that guy is not a serious person, he forgot to tell us the length of the section and the OD of the line so we can do the maths with him.
When nnaji did a sectional replacement on Gergu, the recovered pipes were sleeved and some parts clamped, is it what is costing Nebo 140m?

errr...quick question, why do you think it is the minister of power that replaces(or is responsible for replacing vandalized pipelines)? either you clearly don't a lot about gas-to-power in Nigeria or you're simply trying to give a dog a bad name to hang it.

What Nebo [i]sees [/i]is not vandalized pipelines, it's low gas pressures and it's clearly evident to the people that utilize gas in Nigeria. In most cases, particularly for the power plants, NGC is the operator so when is an incident of vandalism occurs it is NGC that sends notices declaring a force majeure out not the minister for power, he would get a notice just like any other customer (ok, maybe a bit earlier ).

All you see is newspaper articles and press briefings but all these incidents are real to some Nigerians, they mean sleepless nights, missed targets, angry spouses, overtime and the rest.

I agree there's no economic benefit derived from blowing up gas pipelines, but it isn't only the gas pipelines that are the issue, some crude pipelines has a direct bearing on domestic gas supply, particularly TFP (transforcados pipeline)

P.S. I would have posted pictures of vandalized pipelines but I'm sure you're likely to come up with some other complaint.


For the records, I DO NOT like Nebo for any reason whatsoever, dude was far out of his water.