I don't get the point of this thread.

So many anti-igbo bigots like the op have never failed to remind Igbos that we do not belong in Nigerian politics. Some Igbos have accepted this and encouraged themselves with the fact that, regardless of who is ruling the country, we will be fine and successful.

Why are you so mad at the notion that Igbos are doing well? What kind of envy is that?

femisplash:

Yeah, Yoruba will continue to eat, you can starve yourself all you want. Go preach your financial prudence to your kinsmen throwing around their life-savings to buy chieftancy titles.

At least they make money with their chieftaincy titles. What money have you made from "killing cow" (as you put it)?

horsepower102:
Basically the people with the most access to healthcare facilities.

Many don’t even have primary care centers in their vicinity to do health screenings

Exactly.

He should have said "from the data we have..."
While it's good news that a lot of South-Easterners had access to healthcare facilities, more research needs to be done into this.

Gajagojo:

Iboes have the highest rate of Albinism in the world
1 in 1100
Why?

I really don't care if this is true or not but your disdain for albino people is sickening. There's nothing wrong with them.

Gajagojo:
cultures can be borrowed and integrated. No problem
Claiming as your own is the issue here so don't mix it up.
Just like we borrowed English Orthography to write Yoruba or English .
We cannot wake up.and say
A B C belongs to us
That is fraudulent
Nsibidi is an Efik creation

I don't think the analogy you've used is accurate. A more apt one would be the Korean and Japanese writing systems. They are in many ways similar but also different too. You cannot use the Efik form of Nsibidi/Nsibiri to formulate Igbo words (as you can with Latin letters and Yoruba). There are completely different symbols (letters) in each that do not exist in the other.

If you were to say that Igbo Nsibidi/Nsibiri was derived from the Efik one then I think your argument would make more sense. It may or may not be true but it would make more sense.

Igbo Nsibidi/Nsibiri is one of it's own and only for the Igbo language.

Gajagojo:


Iboes have the highest rate of Albinism in the world
1 in 1100

This is an established fact of research.
See research by Okoro 1975 and also others
Do you dispute this?

I only know one albino family and they're Yoruba. I don't care about whatever argument you're trying to make (there's nothing wrong with albino people and people like you with your prejudices make their lives 100 times harder) but the high number of fair skinned people in the Igbo ethnic group can only be attributed to genetic mutation. This was as a result of our environment and diet.

Albinism is different to light skin. The albino Yoruba family I mentioned above had two dark skinned parents and two albino children.

Gajagojo:

He has not shown anything
He has merely made claims

Did you not see the evidence he posted? The Igbo sounds/letters and their relative symbols?

Maybe you're not family with the Igbo and Efik languages but I can tell you right now that they're very different.

Christistruth00:



You hate yourselves doesn't mean everyone else is the same

Ordinary tomorrow is another Monday for you to beat up and lock up your own People for nothing but greed

Countless innocent people you murdered for just going to Work on Monday of all days

It was one thing for you to dedicate an entire Osu Caste for hating

It is another thing entirely to dedicate Monday as you day of hate

That's nice. First, it's "Igbos are tribalists" then, when it doesn't suit your narrative, it's "Igbos hate themselves".

It's getting boring now but what will never be boring is the fact that you (and those like you) depend on the Igbo for your very existence.

I truly feel sorry for you. It must be such a conundrum to be so dependent on those you hate. Sorry

Gajagojo:


You are deceiving yourself and confirming the Ibo stereotype as a dishonest people

He's shown you written symbols for specific Igbo sounds/letters. It could not possibly have been for any language other than Igbo.

Why are you so hell-bent on not believing the Igbos had their own writing system? What lies were you told about Igbo people?

Gajagojo:


Iboes have the highest rate of Albinism in the world
1 in 1100

This is an established fact of research.
See research by Okoro 1975 and also others
Now we know high rates of albinism to be associated with incest

Why are you so jealous of our fair skin? The reason why we have so many fair people is because of our environment and diet.

Igbo land was heavily forested so a lot of our people were protected from the sun. Our diet is vegetable-based and doesn't contain too much oil. (Eating too much oil can darken your skin and green, leafy vegetables contain a lot of vitamins, including vitamin C, which can make your skin look bright and radiant.)

Christistruth00:



Please kindly shut up
We are not interested in your Religion because
Nnamdi Kanu is not anybody's Saviour

The Man couldn't even save himself from DSS

I understand. I'd be mad too if my life depended on the people I hate. Must be such a conundrum for you. Ndo :\

Gajagojo:
. You are a joker

Nsibidi is a creation of the Efik people
Nothing to do with Iboes so stop disgracing your people

You're exposing yourself as a bigot here. Nsibidi/Nsibiri is a part of both cultures. Both cultures intermixed a lot and share traits with one another. Go and do some research on the Nri Kingdom and you'll see that it didn't just cover Igbo land.

Christistruth00:


They can lie for Africa
Stealing our Grandma's photos and putting other labels on them because of
IPOB motivated propaganda

So you're still here, carrying Igbo matter for head?

You should be thanking God for every Igbo man, woman and child. If not for them, you would not be able to practice your religion in peace. If not for the Igbos, you wouldn't even be allowed to keep your moniker here on Nairaland.

Thank God for them and stop complaining.

Omoawoke:


In past present and future, we are far ahead of you.

That's nice. What's the rate of the Naira against the dollar/pound?

Omoawoke:


The only catch up is the one in your head. Southwest is still the most developed region in Nigeria, miles ahead of southeast.
We have technically colonized you igbos, you all migrate to southwest, learn Yoruba or little bit of it, we marry your women easily, you all come to west to school, work. Even want to dress like us, we dominate you in virtually everything and all spheres of life. Stop beating chest and ask yourself, where do your people live? Who is running from east to south? Who rules you? We have had a Yoruba president for 8 years, vice president for 8 years and another going for another 8 years while you have nothing.
We are even making this argument on a Yoruba platform, so mention one sphere in life you lead us. Is it tech, fashion, business, entertainment, development, wealth, economy, school,?

Thank you for mentioning all of the Yoruba influence in Nigerian politics. Nigeria is a failed state BTW, make of that what you will...

Pristine664:


If at least 30% of Igbos see things this way I'm very sure most of these quarrel and dragging won't exist. You can't consistently insult people's sensibility and expect them not to fight back.

Na Igbos dey always cause wahala with their utterances.

I disagree. Many Yorubas here have insulted Igbos unprovoked – even before all of this "Lagos is no man's land" business. Too many of you are ignorant of Igbo culture and judge it by what you see in Nollywood films.

I will give you one example of your people's tribalism from someone I know.

He is an Igbo man and was sharing a room with a bunch of other Nigerians (mostly other Igbo men). Only one was Yoruba and he brought his relative to stay with them. His relative (another Yoruba man) foolishly believed that all Igbos were ritualists and would kill him in his sleep if they could.

Did you know that when this guy had a seizure, it was those same Igbo guys who saved his life? If not for them, that Yoruba man would probably not be alive today.

Many of your people have backwards conceptions of Igbo people before they even open their mouths so please don't blame Igbo people for your own ignorance and misconceptions.

Thank you

Gajagojo:


You lied and claimed what is not yours
The reality and contention is that Igbos were quite backward compared to Yoruba and other Southern groups
They should not claim they developed Lagos when we know them to be quite primitive

The truth of the matter is the British developed Lagos, not Igbo and not Yoruba. After the British left, Lagos was still the capital of Nigeria and it was then developed by all Nigerians.

To say that Lagos was developed by the Yoruba is like saying Abuja was developed by the Gwari tribe. I have never seen anyone say the latter so why do you people keep insisting on the former?

My Igbo brethren that insist on saying Igbos developed Lagos are wrong. No, we didn't develop Lagos but we helped to, just like all Nigerians did.

Lagos is Yoruba land but considering its history, as long as it's in Nigeria, Yoruba people have to accept that it's for all Nigerians. You can't have your cake and eat it two.

Omoawoke:


Igbos don enter one chance, they mess with the wrong tribe



We will dig out all their humiliation from the bottomless pit itself

Which humiliation? I've never seen the British compare their past to that of Nigeria. Why? Because they are currently far superior in every metric point.

You only start to make such comparisons when you have nothing to show in the present.

If, truly, your people have been civilised for the past 200+ years, why are you in the situation you're in now? How on earth did the Igbos (who were so uncivilised, according to you) manage to catch up to you so fast?

This thread has been a low key insult to the Yoruba nation and they can't even see it.

Ttalk:


Don't bring racism to the discussion. You are only being corrected that a naked man cannot develop a clothed person.

Just look at the grammar this one has typed here. How can you claim to be superior when you can't even type properly?

Catapault:
Damn.... Look at all these uncivilized white savages.







SMH.

YOU KNOW THE REAL PROBLEM WITH BLACK FOLK?

WHITE PEOPLE DON BRAINWASH YOU.

THAT IS WHY A THREAD LIKE THIS EVEN EXISTS.

The whole idea that not donning clothes make you ''uncivilized'' is a propaganda view that WHITE EUROPEANS living in a freezing environment, invented in order to force those they conquered to become ''more like them'', wearing clothes from head to toe.

BUT THERE IS NO BASIS FOR LINKING CLOTHES-WEARING TO CIVILIZATION.

Our ANCESTORS who built the great pyramids and temples of Egypt and Nubia, invented mathematics, writing, architecture, medicine, philosophy, law, and the sciences, did not dress head to toe in clothes:




Pharaoh Tutankhamun


Pharaoh and Queen

Don't mind them. The biggest reason why many of them were clothed was because of Islam. If not for that, they would have dressed in a similar fashion to the Igbo women there. The same oyigbo people that they're trying to copy are the same ones promoting nudity in their own countries.

Christistruth03:


You yourself are still trying to drag Minorities into your New Country

A fully autonomous Regioned Nigeria will have no Problem
It was Ironsi that Abolished the Autonomous Regions that had been carefully and meticulously designed and put in place by the British and the National Fathers

Who is trying to drag minorities into their country? I've always pushed for an Igbo-only country in the event we secede from Nigeria. You must have me mistaken for someone else.

Have either of the most recent two presidents (who you probably voted for) pushed for regionalism? The Igbos leaving gives less power to Christians and more to the Muslims (Northern Muslims, in particular). It will be a case of "anything they say, goes" (even more than it is now.

Christistruth03:



Kindly show us your Biafran Map

Let us Start from there

Why would I show you a Biafran map when I have no interest in Biafra?

You and your ilk will become 2nd class citizens the second the Igbos secede.

For argument's sake, let's say that the percentage of Christians in Nigeria is 50%.

Let's also say that the percentage of Igbos in Nigeria is about 20%.

This would mean that the Igbo account for 40% of the total Christian population in Nigeria.

If you take this away, what are we left with?

37.5% Christians and 62.5% Muslims.

Your people's rights are already being stamped on by religious bigots as things stands now. You will see what I'm talking about when the Igbos leave.

Christistruth03:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-A4WdmpyP8?si=gJ2X297YS9h_0XvR

Why are you posting Nnamdi Kanu here?

True or false? If the Igbos left Nigeria, Nigerian Christians would be 2nd class citizens overnight.

Christistruth03:
The Property Demolition is not based on Tribe but on need for safety for all irrespective of Tribe
SW doesn’t hate SE People
It is Ipob and the Politicians Who are creating a Crisis of Suspicion

But the Attitude below is very bad !

Why would you hate Igbos when they're the ones allowing you to practice your faith in peace?

They say that they will not 'name and shame' terrorist financiers but didn't they accuse Emfiele of financing IPOB, a group the FG have accused of being terrorists?

realG101:
I have observed a trend recently on the internet and especially on nairaland and I believe it will help us all a great deal if we refrain from the trend and get more clarity.

Let's call a spade a spade. That nigeria's affairs are in the hands of tinubu right now is not because yoruba people voted based on tribal sentiment.

It is because as usual there was massive rigging perpetrated by the inec as a result of corruption and impunity in the system. This is just one leg of it.

The second reason is that, as far as elections are concerned, the nigeria police and judiciary have always acted as arms of the ruling party at any given time.

That said, one problem that Nigerians have is that we have this habit of relegating real issues and hopping on trivial ones. We get carried away in the process and even begin to fight ourselves on tribal or religious basis while the real enemy continues to do more damage.

It's not further math. If all the yorubas (SW) voted for tinubu and all the igbos (SE) and SS voted for obi, obi would have out performed tinubu in a free and fair election.

This tells us that tribal voting wasn't the big factor in tinubu's victory, it was electoral malpractice.


See all that energy we expend dragging and cursing people who allegedly voted tinubu on tribal basis, let us channel it towards re-examing how events unfolded during the last general election, which loopholes inec and apc exploited for their rigging game and let us brainstorm on how to be prepared to beat them to the game by bridging those loopholes next election.

I can assure you that if we continue trading blames over who didn't vote for the right candidate and refuse to talk about the real issues, 2027 election will also come and go and the story will remain the same.

I'm sure those who didn't apply wisdom in voting during the general election are regreting already. We don't really need to over flog the issue.

The post election tribal war on the internet is even a threat to sensible voting in subsequent elections so let's nip it in the bud.

God bless Nigeria.

People tend to generalise but how many people from the South-West (from the States that voted APC) actually came out to say that the results were rigged and that they did not vote for Tinubu?

Look at what happened in Rivers State. There were many Rivers people who came out to say that they did not vote the Tinubu-led administration in.

Have we seen this anywhere in the South-West (excluding Lagos and Osun states)?

Tinubu is very purposefully making his administration to be 'Yoruba-heavy' so that his people can take the blame for his poor policies. More of them should be speaking against this.

Christistruth03:


I prefer them to continue just to be double sure they will also loose again in 2027
The Muslims in the North and SW are already out of bounds for them
The others who voted with them are already begging for forgiveness on the account of the
heavy Tribal insults and bashing they are daily receiving

Look at someone calling himself "Christistruth" coming out to speak against the Igbos. The same Igbos you repeatedly insult are the ones enabling you to practice your faith in peace. Go to any Muslim country and find out if you can even evangelise there in peace.

Akoasi:
even the ASUU chairman is not an igbo man... He is an urhobo man. The op IQ is low

The NLC secretary is a Port Harcourt man.

They are only Igbo when it suits their agenda. Don't be surprised if they start calling Wike 'Igbo' should he start to work against them.

Usmanovic95:


It is a Nigerian thing, most Nigerian believe Nigeria is divided into 3 ethnics,only few educated ones know we have over 200 ethnic groups .

Nope. They know full well that SS minorities exist. You will see them bring it up whenever there is mention of Biafra or Niger Delta oil.

The truth is that they really see these people as Igbo but only postulate and label them them otherwise when it suits their agenda.

The truth is that they don't really care about these minority tribes. They just a means to an end to put Igbo people down.

Usmanovic95:
How is the TUC president an igbo man?

So if someone doesn't answer a Yoruba or hausa name,he is automatically igbo right.

FYI Festus Osifo is from Edo state.

They cannot tell the difference between Igbos and SS minorities.

Preferito:
There is a new wave of politicking that APC is using and it's dangerous to our democracy. That is the use of judicial technicalities to swing judgement in their favour. Election is no longer won at the polling unit, especially for the opposition parties. Also the inflation of figures at its strongholds and suppression of voters at the oppositions strongholds is what they use to achieve their results.

There is no more democracy in Nigeria. The recent elections have confirmed it.

KingOfAllIgbos:
Tinubu will show the Okoro why he's their ultimate Conqueror.

He would show why Yorubas remain their colonial masters.

So Emefiele is now Igbo?