wisdomkid:
I don't understand the constant NEED and fight to include people who clearly wants to disassociate themselves from you guys. This is the same as Nigeria.

Rivers people saying they are not Igbos - IGBOS fighting endlessly and shamelessly to say they are igbos.
Igbo people saying they are not Nigerians - Nigerian government fighting endlessly and shamelessly to say they are Nigerians.

The problem, as the op has proved, is that some of them claim their Igbo heritage. If you read the history books, you will see that the Ikwerre prior to 1967 (including the colonial era) were described as an Igbo group.

We didn't have any conventional kingdom or empires such as Oyo or the Sokoto Caliphate, in which you could pinpoint the ethnicity of each individual. 'Igboness' was largely determined by the language you spoke; the food you ate; the gods you served; market days etc. All these pointed to the Ikwerre being Igbo.

I am not one to force anybody to claim somerhing they don't want to — we live in an age where a man can call himself a woman and a woman, a man. However, you cannot deny history. It dishonour our ancestors.

We should not take the Ikwerre or any sub-group with notable Igbo deniers when we secede. We don't want our country to become another Nigeria.

Wainey:
Oga we are not interested, cry all you want

Why are you saying "we" when you've admitted that you're not Ikwerre? Igboid was right; why are you getting involved?

Igboid:


There is no "We" between you and Ikwerre.
If you can't grasp this simple concept, then this discussion is pointless.
Ndiigbo have no interest in whatever backward place you come from, so you can as well go and stay where the sun don't shine.
The Ikwerres who are in Igbo Organization know that there is a "We" between them and other Igbos, the opinions of dissenting Ikwerre people matters and will be put on a plebiscite on the day of reckoning, but your inferior Igbo hating Yoruba opinion trying too hard to mask under minorities of SS is irrelevant.

That's the point.

My brother, I think it's time to let the Ikwerre speak for themselves — just like Barrister Okwukwu has done. They will be the ones to be dealing with the hateful non-Igbos when we keep silent.

As long as 50% claim their Igbo heritage and the other 50% don't, there will always be problems. People like Wike are products of Igbophobic propaganda so we need to move on without them.

raskymonojendor:

Nnamdi Kanu and Simon Ekpa are already calling Ikwere lands Igwe-Ocha or something like that

The Ikwerre name for Port Harcourt is Igweocha.

Edit: It's becoming increasingly obvious that the Op isn't even Ikwerre. I've heard of some Ikwerre try to claim Benin ancestry but Youruba? Hausa? That's insane.

Ttipsy:
best comments here

A very good luck to them and they should stop answering Igbo names, they should bear their ikwere trube name as they call it

I agree, lest they suffer persecution from other Nigerians mistaking them for Igbos.

Abifarin16:

You and very few people. And we all know majority carries the day. I believe leaving behind sentimental feeling and advancing as one despite the odds is better than regressing and breaking into pieces. United we stand, divide and beside

It's actually more than a few (and growing by the day). It's just that the loudest (IPOB and co) are the ones who get noticed.

Many of the oil rich communities in the Niger Delta have had their lands ravaged by oil spills. It will cost a lot of money to clean these up and even more to return their environments back to normal.

It's just not worth it, in my opinion. We should only be doing that for communities that won't give us problems (i.e. self-identified Igbo communities). We have our own resources, we don't need their oil.

Igboid:
Igbos will do well to avoid posts like this.
Don't contribute to it and watch it die.

I disagree. It won't die as it's being fuelled by propaganda that has lasted generations.

The only way to counter it is to campaign for an Igbo-only country. Without the Igbos, these people have no leverage in Nigeria. They become not only an ethnic minority but a religious one too.

They might not understand the implications of this now but they will later on.

Abifarin16:
You see in Bauchi where I reside. The tribal extraction that the former speaker comes from in Sayawa from Bogoro and Tafawa Balewa local Government. They have their language and a different culture than the rest of the state. They never claim to be Hausa's. The three major tribes in the north is Hausa, Fulani and Kanuri.
Person say him no Igbo leave am. This are the tribes that will give IPOB problem when the time comes. Una dey claim marginalization for Nigeria, when you get Biafra you will know what's up. Igbo people that are very possessive like evil spirit.

Many Igbos like myself don't want them in our country. Like you said, they'll only cause problems for us. We need our independent Igbo nation to be as homogenous and united as possible.

Trying to reason with these people is pointless as the propaganda they've been subjected to has been going on for generations.

We have gas, coal, minerals and some oil in our lands. We also have the most important resource — human resources. With good governance, we'd be able to rival any first world country within 20 years of seceding.

Good luck to all the Ikwerre and other minority tribes choosing to stay in Nigeria.

PortHarcourtcit:
why can't you guys just please please accept the fact that we don't want you,.. QED we are IKWERRE for God sake... Shameful... The same way Ipob miscreants are saying that they are not Nigeria... You want to colonize us while you don't want Nigeria to colonize you... Big shame...

I agree. You people should not be considered members of the Igbo ethnic group. When we get our own country, you should stay in Nigeria. Maybe then you'll finally see what these people are about.

SpatialKing:
Largest Gas reserves in Nigeria South east
Largest coal reserves in Nigeria South East

No, we have nothing. We only contribute bad things to their great country. Nigeria will truly become the Giant of Africa once the Igbos leave .

Wahabfuture:



Those fools can't live without Igbos, they will go depression once we leave this one Nigeria

It's best for everyone. We will get our own country and they will be forced to reckon with their real issues.

Nigeria is holding us all back. The only people I really feel sorry for once the Igbos leave are the Christians that will be left behind. The fact that some of them are mocking Igbos just shows how myopic they really are.

KwuoteYourFada:


No the phone grew wings and flew from china to Nigeria


Ebonyi is amongst top 4 highest rice producers in Nigeria
Anambra houses one of the largest rice mills in Nigeria and one of the top producers of rice


Anambra is one of if not the highest producers of casava and it's products in Nigeria maybe you don't travel


Abia and imo are amongst the highest producers palm oil in Nigeria

Anambra is amongst the highest producers of corn in Nigeria too

No, you're wrong. The South-East has absolutely nothing to offer Nigeria. The same can be said for the Igbo communities outside of the South-East. They should all petition their politicians to let the Igbos leave so they can finally have peace and thrive as a nation.

DomPerignon:



You have no argument but to resort to insults.

The Niger Delta people will be given a quick rundown on history regarding this sordid episode regarding your land thieving war generation.


This your Biafra thing is sure but just have it in the back of your Okoro skulls that it will be limited to your five leprous states and not an inch more.

You really shouldn't be getting involved in other people's conversations.

I was completely polite and courteous to him until he called me an Olosho. I responded to him in kind.


Thank you .

gidgiddy:


You guys like to argue blindly because you dont know the law. The only reason Nigeria has territorial water is UNCLOS (United Nations Convention On Laws If The Sea) and Nigeria is a signatory to UNCLOS. Without UNCLOS, nothing stops America from claiming to own the Pacific Ocean, or India claiming to own the Indian Ocean



Article 125 of UNCLOS states:



Article 125

Right of access to and from the sea and freedom of transit

1. Land-locked States shall have the right of access to and from the sea
for the purpose of exercising the rights provided for in this Convention
including those relating to the freedom of the high seas and the common
heritage of mankind. To this end, land-locked States shall enjoy freedom of
transit through the territory of transit States by all means of transport.

In the event that the South East becomes independent, Nigeria has no right to deny it from using Oguta, Ebonyi River, Obuaku Azumini blue River or any tributaries that run through the South East to the ocean, to gain access to the sea. That is the law

There may be certain terms and conditions that the South East may have to negotiate with Nigeria, but their right to access to the sea remains sacrosanct

They're too busy concerning themselves with Igbos and what we'll do with our own country when they should be focusing on their own.

What will happen to Christianity in Nigeria if the Igbos leave?

@Op

1) I don't believe you are Igbo as you don't seem to know that there are Igbo communities outside the South-East.

2) Most want a referendum to be conducted in their areas as self-determination should be determined by the people.

3) You claim that the Igbos not having a president isn't enough just cause to want to leave Nigeria so I have to ask you again, are you really an Igbo man?

If you as a citizen cannot even dream of attaining the highest honour in your country then what business have you of being in it?

4) Your claims about corrupt SE politicians are right and I'm happy you've mentioned it because for the first time in a long time, Igbo people are starting to hold their politicians accountable. We owe that to Peter Obi, btw.

AuschwitzPrefec:



Face the facts presented here on this thread pertaining to your orcs raping , killing , torturing and eating defenseless minorities caught up in your rogue Biafra and those in the Midwest.

Every other rubbish you are posting here does not exonerate your genocidal war criminals .

Lol, I can't be bothered anymore. I don't understand how you can be here all day every day. My goodness!

AuschwitzPrefec:
Ohu Ngozi123 you no go see this beautiful thread comment on.

You call me Ohu and, no offence to those who have Ohu ancestry but I can date my ancestry back generations and I am not Ohu, neither am I Osu.

However, as a son of an akwuna akwuna, you cannot. I pity you as you must have spent day upon day of your miserable childhood pondering on who your father was. Is he your neighbour? The local suya seller? The palm wine tapper. Ndo, your mama will tell you one day. Just leave her N1,000 by her bedside table. That should jog her memory.

AuschwitzPrefec:


Story


You have been rejected by the entire SS.

Go and try your luck with Benue people

Honestly, you reason like a fool.

1) You admited that there are Igbos native to the South-South region.
2) You implied that some of them even belong in the Igbo-dominated South-East region.
3) You implied that the Biafrans had no affinity with the Midwest region.
4) You failed to note that Nzeogwu was from the Midwest region.
5) You said that the minorities slaughtered in the North were mistaken for Igbos (proving my point).
6) You then justified their murder by claiming that there were only a few of them there (absolutely shocking and completely untrue, btw ).
7) After all your running around in circles and ignoring any comment that exposes you as an ignoramus, you now claim that the multi-ethnic (which, you admit, includes Igbos) and multi-faceted people of the South-South region have unanimously rejected the Igbo ethnic group.


Do you see how this makes no sense? Especially as I have always maintained that I do not want us to form a country with any minority. I want an Igbo-only country and always have.

Btw, I'm giving you one final chance. Send me your account details so that I can send you the money for your HIV test. I will not offer it again.

AuschwitzPrefec:



And?

How many SS people were roaming the north back then ?

You think that the north now doesn't know how to make the difference ?

If anything their deaths were caused by your foolishness.

This shows that you really know nothing and do not care about the people you're 'defending'.

NtoAkwaIbom, I'm sorry for you and your people but we Igbos must form our own country and leave you to them. If you like, wise up now.

Belafonte:


Unity beggar you need SS oil abi? Your greed and covetousness will be your end. Desist from ojukokoro before you eternally banished from earth

Only an illiterate would think this. The minorities of the South-South can stay in Nigeria or form their own country for all I care but Igboland is Igboland. We will not cede even an inch to that contraption called Nigeria. We will not leave our people to be slaughtered by savages.

AuschwitzPrefec:


Sharap.

The non Ibos killed in the north were mistaken for Ibos .

Secondly, Murtala rounding up and killing Asaba people was not out of misplaced hatred.

Those killed by Murtala were fingered in collaborating with the Ibos to invade Midwest .

They were part of the Okonkwo stooge govt setup by Ojukwu after Ejoor was chased away by his own Igboid officers.

They were not innocent in any way or form


The only argument is that Murtala should have handed them to the police for prosecution but again you can argue that the Midwest was already under Marshal law following the Igboid treason and that Murtala simply complied with relevant war codes in treating spies and traitors.

They deserved it in my book.

Thank you for proving my point.

NtoAkwaIbom

Please read the above and understand how these people behave.

AuschwitzPrefec:



It was police action until you invaded Midwest .

The SMO was to liberate the annexed SS states of old Rivers and old Cross River until your bastards invaded Midwest and began a putsch to take Lagos.

So, Gowon declaring war on Biafra was a "police action"? What are they teaching you people in that country?

See how people try to rewrite history? If they were trying to "liberate" the people in the annexed minority lands then why did you slaughter so many of them? I'm talking innocent civilians, not soldiers.

AuschwitzPrefec:



Okoro, do you want me tell you of your ashawoe wives in places like Enugu and Owerri?

The heebo is the only one who has a tradition of adopting fully the offspring of am adultroues wife.

Why is this ? Maybe because your women no fit stay one place even when married.

I suppose you'd say the same of the Hebrews as they have the exact same tradition? Or the English. Or most other civilisations?

Now, let's get back to your own case. Send me your account details so I can send you the money for your HIV test. Everybody knows that ashawos of your mama's generation did not use protection.

AuschwitzPrefec:



See who dey call person mama olosho .

We know the people whose wives they picked from olosho house.

A bonafide baby factory product calling some one a bastard .

Ohu , as I said in this thread , the Okoro will accuse others of what he is ten times guilty of.

We know the people who swap wives and husbands like musical chairs at Owambe parties.

Iberibe, send me your account details so I can send you the money to get yourself tested. They say HIV treatment has gotten much better now so you don't need to fret.

AuschwitzPrefec:


You for ask Zik why he refused to add referendum clause .

You should ask why Zik took his unity begging ass to the OAU and secured a pact to maintain the invoibility of the handed down colonial estates.

The question is, if the Yorubas wanted to secede then why didn't they when the opportunity arose in 1967?

Heck, why didn't they go for it at Nigeria's independence? Surely one Igbo man couldn't have stopped the entire Oduduwa movement singlehandedly?

AuschwitzPrefec:



Ohu, just keep your Biafra to your five leprous states.

Thanks

It is better to be Ohu than the son of akwuna akwuna. How many papas has your mama presented to you? 4 or 5?

I'm sure your real papa is one local drunkard you passed every day on your way to school. Sorry o

They say that if the mother has HIV then she can pass it onto her child during childbirth. I hope you've checked yourself at the clinic. If you like, I can send you money for transport as Tinubu has rendered you people's lives useless .

Hotfreeze:


You will get killed again and this time, you won't get anything. Also your men will be castrated..

This is why your country will never progress. Civilised people are talking about referendums and you are talking about killing and castration. I'm sure you'd start crying racism if a white man called you a savage...

AuschwitzPrefec:


Olosho , there are no Ibo in SS.

You will not repeat the foolishness of decieving Ibos in SS to betray their neighbours like you did in old Midwestern region.

Your mama is an olosho who should have swallowed you .

You keep going round in circles. First you claim there are no Igbos in the South-South then you admit that there are. Now, you're back to the 'no Igbos in South-South' rhetoric.

Seeing as you've brought up the old Midwestern region... Where was Chuwkuma Nzeogwu from?

AuschwitzPrefec:


Abeg point the Ibo in SS that are supporting your revamped madness ?

But you claimed that there were no Igbos in the South-South?

AuschwitzPrefec:



I believe Wike even proposed that Oyigbo be excercised from Rivers mainly on it being mainly Ibo .

So don't think the average Rivers man wants anything Ibo in his midst.

So, you admit that there are Igbos in the South-South?

HeeBraHim2:


Stop all this preaching..... Leave nigeria and never come back.

If only your ancestors had let us the first time .

If only your former president had not murdered peaceful protestors who just wanted a referendum to be conducted in their region.

If only your current president would release Nnamdi Kanu.

Are these the actions of a country that wants the Igbos to leave?