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Ibime:
Show me one single player that Mike Forde has been even rumoured to have recommended. If you show me that, I concede the discussion immediately.

I have shown several links to show what Mike Fordes brief is, what Emenalos brief is and can show you hundred links where Emenalo is cited as having signed a player.

.

I have shown you severally that you are a nincompoop incapable of reason.

I have posted Mike Forde's job description for you several times...but you are refusing to listen.

Look at Picture number 1 and the things highlighted. This was lifted from the Chelsea site 8th of August 2012. You mean the Director of Football operations AND a member of the Football board, which Chelsea lists as responsible for the day to day running of the club is not a decision maker?

And your own proof is a newspaper article?

Since when did Journalists attend borad meetings O Dim one?

In your haste to sound intelligent, you went and quoted Mike Forde now talking himself up as a consultant claiming that "we do analysis on the squad and signings bla bla bla.. That in no way shows he has any decision making power, he just performs analysis as directed. Mike Forde is the guy at the back of the computer telling you that X Player has great lung power and running ability etc, he isnt even close to a decision maker.

Show me one player Mike Forde is even rumoured to have signed or shut it. Since when did he become Head of Scouting, or even a mere scout? Why didn't Benitez go and meet Mike Forde to discuss transfer requirements?

He is Emenalos boss you claimed. What a joke. Clueless nogga

Hayayaya

This is what happens when you let ignorance get in the way of a good story. Basically, you either tell lies for a living, or you live a lie.

See Picture 2....Chelsea describe this guy almost word for word as you do. ...He is "The guy behind the computer", and does "Analysis as instructed"...except his name is not Mike Forde, he isn't the DoF, and doesnt sit on the board....Nope his name is James Melbourne. Lifted August 2012 as well.


I expect you to bring more newspaper clippings to discount Chelsea's own website....because well, isnt that what you do?

Your life is a tragedy mehn...Unfortunate Fellow

Bwahahaha

Now this fat turd has turned to grammar discussion, highlighting multiple 'We's like we're in French class.


This is the craziest thing I ever read. A rotund accountant trying to argue directly with the words of Mike Forde who actually worked for Chelsea as a Director of Football operations for 6 whooping years

The man described his daily job in his own words, yet one armpit scratching, fufu-scoffing, so called pundit is attempting to disprove these words by newspaper articles.

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. This nigga is the punchline to a very dry joke.

This guy has confirmed brain damage.

I have posted links to Mike Forde stating that he was responsible for ALL issues dealing with the First Team.

Chelsea website states that Emenalo scouts for both first team and youth team. So why won't Emenalo be talking about recruitment?

I've posted an interview with Mike Forde describing the scouting process and discussing how he met with player agents...

Yet this no Mark, no hope, no sense, alleged human being keeps posting articles with no quotes as proof that Mark Forde does nothing?

So we should ignore proof from the horses mouth and trust a newspaper without a single quote?

This is the reason why he can't decide if Iniesta is the best midfielder in the world or unproductive.

The part of the brain responsible for logical deduction must have been absent at birth mehn...

Kids, don't do drugs

Griffon:
Brah I guess u'll have to drink and merry tonight 'cos tomorrow we war. I have a visitor tonite who needs my undivided attention.

I'm only limited to reading comments this night.

Alright coolio. Good night. I'm off to bed.

We war tommorow.

Is this guy not a born fool?

I posted information from Mike Forde's own website:

Between August 2007 to July 2013 he was employed as Director of Football Operations & Executive Club Director for Chelsea Football Club in the EPL, dealing with all areas of performance and team operations relating to the 1st Champions League, Europa League, Premier League title and three FA Cups. The most successful era in the club’s history.

http://www.mikefordeperformance.com/biography

I posted information from Mike Forde's profile page as a motivational speaker

Mike Forde is Director of Football Operations at Chelsea Football Club, a position he has held since 2007.
Mike is responsible for all areas of performance and team operations relating to the first team, including player recruitment; medical; sport science; psychology and performance analysis.
Mike is widely recognized as a leading figure in the English Premier League and European Soccer. He is particularly known for innovative methods to create a sustained business model for elite

I posted Mike Fore in HIS OWN WORDS talking about his work at Chelsea.

The first step, before a window even opens, is what we used to call ‘Scout your own squad’. What do we need? What’s the cultural fit? What are the technical demands? The physical demands?

“So we get a picture of that first and then we go to market because otherwise you let the market dictate to you. You let agents dictate to you and I’ve never met an agent with a bad player.

“The market forces are huge and underestimated in terms of building your team. You’re not in full control. You can evaluate what you need, you can evaluate where you can get it but it depends on a lot of things.

“A few years ago, there was a big premium on wingers — the likes of Arjen Robben, Angel di Maria. There was a shortage of that particular type of player so they become very expensive to buy if you want to tackle that need. So, you’re always evaluating the economics. If you’re a big team and you’re signing big players, you’re doing your work six, nine or sometimes 12 months out so there’s a lot of preparation from data and various reports. It’s a long, drawn-out process and the bigger the player, the more time you have to spend to make sure it’s the right option.”

I can even post the man's Linkedin.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-forde-44198237

Yet one dimwit that bottlefed on raw crude oil is posting an article from BEFORE Mike was even hired...that doesnt note what Mike was supposed to do, as his proof that Mike Forde had never been a decision maker at Chelsea.

This a claasic case of an unfortunate fellow, a mad man desperate for a market to roam, a dimwit from Idimu.

FOH nigga!

I'm absolutely convinced now that you have a mental problem.

Yesterday, you needlessly stated that you didn't want to disturbed.

I even told you that the discussion was not for you and advised you to enjoy the beach as you wanted.

I was discussing with Bigkesh, and you turned up and asked him not to say anything.

I'm discussing now with Griffon, and yet again you've managed to drag yourself into a conversation that doesn't concern you.

Why are you such an attention seeking loser?

You're a comment skank, and a quote whoore...and I will most definitely not be replying to or entertaining your BS.

Griffon, theres more to come...but let me pause here and give you an opportunity to counter.

You can see my examples of 'facts'. I'm not posting hearsay, or speculation. I'm not using the ramblings of a multiply disgraced and discounted journalist.

I post FACTS.

I'm going to make a cup of tea.

I'll be right back like Gary Neville to quote modenine

Myth Number 3....slightly related to number, but suitably different to be it's own thing.

Emenalo's refusal to buy players is what led to our downfall last season.

Let's here Jose on this:

“I will not ask for any changes,” he said. “I will not ask the board [for players] in January. I’m happy with the players I have. I trust the players I have. I don’t need to clean the dressing room, and I don’t need to ask the club to spend money in January. I’m not saying I won’t sign anyone. I’m saying I won’t ask the club to do that. I don’t have the right to do it, in my opinion.

“Why don’t I have the right? Because our performance – if you can use that word, I’m not sure it’s the correct word – during the season in the Premier League has not been good enough. If I ask for players, or if the club gives me a handful of players, it’s like taking a bit of the responsibility off us and suggesting we needed extra [help] to reach our objectives.

“[size=18pt]I want the responsibility to be in my hands. I want the players to have the responsibility in their hands. I want them to feel I trust them and don’t need other players to reach our objectives. We should be together, me and the players. We have put ourselves in this situation. Now we have to put it right[/size].”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/20/jose-mourinho-chelsea-board-new-players-transfer-window

If I remember correctly, this was the statement that pissed airmark off greatly.

This particular statement is very instructive.

At this point, Jose is fairly certain that with the players he has, he should be able to do better than 16th place which was where we were, alliteratively speaking

Here you have a manager that didnt believe that the solution was to buy his way out of trouble. Matic was one of the worst offenders at the time....is it coincindental that Jose is reportedly coming back for him anyway?

Myth Number 2. Emenalo never heeded the manager and always bought rubbish.

Transfers at Chelsea are a collaborative effort. Lets hear key people tell it.

Ray Wilkins:

In the time that I was on the coaching staff, it was always the coach that selected the players. "I know for a fact that Carlo wanted Fernando Torres and David Luiz so Mr Abramovich went out and got them

http://www.chelseadaft.org/2013/01/chelsea-legend-talks-guardiola.html

Thats the testimony of Carlo's erstwhile Number 2. Ancelotti not Emenalo was responsible for signing Torres.

Mike Forde

The first step, before a window even opens, is what we used to call ‘Scout your own squad’. What do we need? What’s the cultural fit? What are the technical demands? The physical demands?

“So we get a picture of that first

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/forde-leaves-blues-for-a-new-field-of-dreams-279267.html

This is the big one.
Roman Abramovic:

I cannot say I'm completely not involved in buying players, but my role would be significantly lower than that of the manager's. You cannot compare them. To give an example, this would be an impossible situation when a manager does not want a player to be bought and I try to impose ideas. It would not work." Even Shevchenko? 'Any player, Shevchenko included'

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/76821/Roman-Im-cutting-back.html

Thats three key people in Chelsea rcruitment stating exactly how it works...The manager is ALWAYS involved.

This is where it all started and that was in [size=18pt]2012 [/size]after our UCL triumph.

- Emenalo failed to lay the foundation for that vision to thrive.
- He failed to address the dearth of quality in our central midfield area.
- He felt the only way to actualize a sexy style of play was by stockpiling the team with technically adept players.
- He failed to understand the basics; that a strong midfield is required to cover the arses of a team's attacking band.
- He inadvertently pushed the chelsea-destruct button.

I believe that this has just been brutally discounted

Fact number 2 loading

Griffon my nigga...This one is for you.

Myth Number 1. Emenalo is/was in charge of more than just scouting at Chelsea.

Emanalo was appointed as TD in 2011
As posted earlier, the Chelsea website lists his job description as:

...supports the work of the first team manager, leading the club's international and domestic scouting network, and assists in driving the technical programmes of our Academy and international youth network.

http://www.chelseafc.com/the-club/about-chelsea-football-club/club-personnel/michael-emenalo.html

However at the time Mike Forde was the Director of Football operations....a role he had held from 2007 and till July 2013

His Job description at the time was:

...responsible for all areas of performance and team operations relating to the first team, including player recruitment; medical, sport science, psychology and performance analysis.

https://www.speakersacademy.com/en/speaker/mike-forde/

Notice that Emenalo is listed in a support Role at this time, while Forde is responsible for ALL areas of team operations related to the first team.

This means that between July 2011 and July 2013....Emenalo had a line manager.

To quote Andre 3000, go on and marinade on that for a minute...

Dadehmola:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2338167/Jose-Mourinho-Chelsea-divided-Director-offers-quit-star-hits-John-Terry-influence.html

Nihilist, you might wanna read that article (you fit don read am before sef).

What's your take on it?

I dont like to post or refer articles in cases like this. I like to post facts.

To me, it's important that we ignore opinions for now....I like to lay the facts bare first before we start drawing inferences.

Griffon:
Contradicting philosophies brought us here.

It's glaring clear even to the blind that Roman craves the tiki-taka side of footie. It is equally damn obvious to everyone that he had ordered Emenalo the TD to actualize that vision.

This is where it all started and that was in 2012 after our UCL triumph.

- Emenalo failed to lay the foundation for that vision to thrive.
- He failed to address the dearth of quality in our central midfield area.
- He felt the only way to actualize a sexy style of play was by stockpiling the team with technically adept players.
- He failed to understand the basics; that a strong midfield is required to cover the arses of a team's attacking band.
- He inadvertently pushed the chelsea-destruct button.

Jose on his return to the bridge saw these anomalies and requested for Matic's recall. On many occassions he was seen favouring a pivot of Matic - Luiz. That was him sending a message.

We won the league on his [Jose's] second season, a title that had eluded us since Carlo's departure. Mourinho wanted to stregthen. I'm pretty sure there are links out there that supports that claim. He wanted one or two additions and I do remember mentioning the need for squad depth on this thread last year but those requests fell on the deaf ears of the Emenalo led board.

What happens next? Months of close-season transfer mis-steps culminated in failure.

It's easy to blame the manager when things go south in a club but believe me brother, that isn't usually the case at Chelsea. Our Emenalo led board has the blueprint of our downfall.

IM going to decisively counter your argument in a minute. I'm just going to rush my dinner

Can you please just confirm that you believe that Emenalo started fvcking us up from 2012?

What a lot of people seem to forget is that prior to this season just gone, we had achieved 3 consecutive top 4 finishes, and a load of trophies between 2012 and 2015

That's a lot better than Arsenal, Manyoo and Man City in that time frame.

The reason for all of this argument is our disastrous finish to the season.

If the argument was about failing to make a top 4 finish being due to Emenalo, then I would understand.

We finished beneath WestHam, Stoke City, Southampton, Liverpool, etc.

Southampton sold\lost their best players AGAIN. Liverpool were so bad, they sacked their manager before us. Stoke lost key players for extended periods due to injury and went on a run of games where the conceded 4 goals in 3 back to back games.

Even Manyoo as bad as they were, and United fans will testify, were still a lot better than us.

Come on mehn....

How is Emenalo to blame here?

Griffon:
Failure is this:



We didn't win these titles you're reeling out playing to Emenalo's philosophy. The only time we've won in this period is when we outright abandoned his vision and played ultra defensively. So what is Emenalo really good at?



This is the ridiculous description one can always expect on an official webpage. Emenalo isn't just the first team's chief scout. We often here when a manager is appointed by Roman Abramovich that they have spoken to Emenalo who has pointed out what is expected from them. We hear about meetings with Roman AND Emenalo. and yeah you still think he's there to scout?



That job description is very wrong. Emenalo wields far more influence than the manager, which is a reason why he is in his job and overseeing his 5th different manager. He's the one dictating our philosophy or better still Roman's lapdog



I've overstated this, check my first rebuttal.



Everyone should take the blame for our disastrous season BUT Emenalo IMO should have the biggest blame for creating a huge imbalance in the team.

He failed to provide suitable targets to fix the problems Mourinho addressed in the summer, always talking about youth integration and some damn sickening beautiful football philosophy. He contributed immensely to our woes last season.

You've posted your own opinion. If you are not a member of the board, or cannot post a factual source of your information, then I cannot accept anything you say as fact.

It's instructive that you want us to dismiss Emenalo's job description as stated by the Club...in favour of an unsubstantiated theory.

You keep mentioning this so called vision, but who decides the first team tactics? Who choses the first 11?

The only way you can blame Emenalo for the 'failures' of the 1st team, is if you make him the manager.

Emenalo has provided great players. Jose refused to play Lukaku. Costa arrived in 2014. Lukaku has consistently outscored Costa in all competitions since his Diego landed in England.

Was it Emenalo's decision to not play Lukaku?


DeBruyne was sold in favour of Oscar. DeBruyne almost immediately went on to win the Bundesliga player of the year.

Was it Emenalos decision not to play DeBruyne.

Felipe Luis was provided, but not played.Now we're blaming Emenalo for Baba, while Luis is gearing up for yet another UCL final.

Zouma was purchased, and slotted seamlessly into the back four behind Courtouis....another Emenalo signing.

These are verifiable facts and not conjecture.

The club clearly states that it's Emenalo's job to scout players. It's not his job to make them work. That is the job of the Manager!

Pochettino does not buy players at Spurs. He was given Eric Dier, a fullback from the Portuguese league with only 30 senior appearances in his career, and turned him into England's 1st choice DM in less than a season. Died cost only 3m pounds.

Dele Alli was brought straight from league 1 to England's first team in 1 season by Pochettino, who didn't buy him either.

Ranieri didn't sign a single one of those players that won the league. He took them from relegation to champions in 1 season.

Yet we're here blaming a technical director for the managers failings to get the best out of his players.

Na wa o.

gj22:
It has more to do with their magical properties than how hot the fire was when they were forged.

Obsidian is a naturally formed volcanic glass. I doubt that it has any 'magical properties'. Granite and Obsidian are both naturally formed from Lava. Only one of them is associated with dragons.

The key thing here is to note that both are associated with Dragons...hence 'heat'

Obsidian - Dragonglass
Valyrian Steel - Dragon flame

The theme is repeated several times in the series...most notably in Quarth when the masked woman described Dragons as 'Fire Made Flesh'.
As you know, Danaerys is strongly associated with Dragons, and fire.

Conversely, the White Walkers are also Ice made flesh...as we see them shatter into Ice when they die. This also empasized by their ice blue eyes, icy skin, Icy crown, and their icy environment.

Basically anything described as Dragon-related in the GoT universe is symbolic of extreme heat...Just as the White walkers are symbolic of extreme cold

Fire vs Wight = Lv1
Dragon anything vs White Walker = Lv2

I'm done with the explaining

gj22:
Lol. Is steel or glass supposed to be formed under extreme cold before?

Regular steel swords cannot Kill a Wight or White Walker, just a regular rock cannot kill those creatures.


Valyrian steel is forged with Dragon flame. Obsidian is called Dragonglass


This association with dragons implies that they have extreme heat as imbued attributes


So basically fire to deal with the minions and 'hotter items' to deal with the ogas at the top.

Griffon:
Bruh I refuse to treat these claims as facts 'cos they're in no way facts.

As a TD, the primary job of Emenalo is to articulate a coherent footballing vision for the club and use the recommendation of the scouts and budget provided to him by the board to bring in the right personnel to implement that vision. In that task he has been an unqualified failure.

Define Failure.

Between July 2011 and right now - Chelsea have brought in Hazard, Cahill, Cortouis, Azpilicueta, Fabregas, Costa, amongst others under his watch. Are these all the wrong personnel?

Between July 2011 and right now - Chelase have won virtually everything there is to win at club level -FA Cup? Check. League Cup? Check. League? Check. UCL? Check. Europa? Check.

So what IS failure?

We have been trying to implement his vision of possession based Barcelona-esque attack for the past 5years yet we're nowhere close to it. As part of that vision, he has brought in technically adept but physically and mentally weak players to the team. As part of that vision, he has succeded in stockpiling Chelsea with too many attacking midfielders whilst ignoring the need to stregthen the CM area which has been our team's long standing ''structural defect''.

At youth level we've won the FA Cup 3 years in a row. We've won the UEFA youth league twice in a row.

Now look at his Job description from the Chelsea Website direct.
"He has been an important part of the first team management structure since his arrival in October 2007, and now supports the work of the first team manager, leading the club's international and domestic scouting network, and assists in driving the technical programmes of our Academy and international youth network."

You can see that his job is clearly split. For the first team, he is mainly the chief scout.
It is only at youth level that he drives the technical programmes.

Now based on this Job description, can you say he has failed to 'implement his vison'? How can the Technical director 'implement a vison for the first team'? What then is the job of the actual manager?

To answer your question, Micheal phucking Emenalo has failed to present us with a solid feasible vision and has contributed largely in destroying our team.

I need actual proof of this statement. Not speculation or guess work. I need undeniable proof that Emenalo failed to provide a solid feasible vision.

It's extremely important to note that this 'destroyed team won the league only last season. Not two or three seasons ago o. LAST SEASON.

We are a team that went from 1st to 16th! And you want to blame the TD for ruining the team? What was the manager doing?

Ibime:
[s]
There are hundred other sources nigga including a senior insider at Chelsea. That's just one I picked for convenience.



I'm fit as a fiddle nigga. Tell that to you know who not far from you right now[/s].

Dude Enjoy the beach.

I'm out.

diggz:
The managers not having full control is one thing, but not getting the players you also require to carry out your instruction on the pitch is another.

I cannot point at any club asides arrsnal giving wengay full control of transfers, but i can point at clubs and managers who get the kind of players they want to play the way they want. The reason why we keep getting players like djajijawhatever,pato and co. is what I can not understand.

@ proof

Ibime is already doing a good job. Kindly go through what your paddy dey post

Nihilist I think you should be querying why CFC is the only club in EPL and probably in the entire europe with same issues year in,year out. While we are quick to sack and replace the managers, there is only but a constant, Emenalo...!!!!!

Like I said earlier.

Papy only played 20 minutes of football for us...against Walsall.

I don't know how a conclusive judgement could be made from that.

It is the managers job to get the most out of the players, not the Technical Director. So why is Emenalo being blamed for Jose'said fuckup?

Fabregas came out very recently to say that Jose cause the slump by trusting thr players too much, and allowing such a short pre-season. Abi is Fabregas an Emenalo spy too?

UK based nairalanders would know that Rob Beasely and/or the Sun is as untrustworthy as the Buhari Government.

This is a man who has published false stories on numerous occasions and has been forced into making several apologies, and even banned from contributing to certain aspects of the media...including the Sunday supplement where he's supposed to have made that statement!

Just Google 'Rob Beasely Apology' if in doubt.

If you're ignorant enough to quote Rob as an authoritative source, then we really shouldn't be having this conversation.

If you're just trying to score cheap poinnts by sneaking that known liars opinion in as facts, then we really shouldn't be having this conversation.

In fact, why are we having this conversation?

Man you need to plonk your fat self on a chair somewhere, take off your bra, and go back to enjoying the beach...

Night bro

diggz:
Pls lukaku was never going to stay back to watch the useless unbenchable expensive trash of 50mil stink up the place and still get to play ahead of him week in,week out. He literally ran for his life and it was no JMs call. However, I hold JM solely responsible for signing the fraud called falcao and won't ever forgive him

My take on our Igbo brother is simple;
If all the managers have had one or two issues regarding how he interferes directly with their jobs or what players they should buy or not then, he should be placed very far away from the team because, he is the only constant surrounding this misery. And,everyone can not be wrong at the same time.

Can you point to any big team in Europe today asides perhaps Arsenal where the manager is fully in charge of transfer decisions?

Most managers won't like it because naturally they want to be in fullcontrol. Rodgers complained about the 'committee' when he got sacked from Liverpool. Even this same Ancelotti complanned about getting into regular 'shouting matches' with PSG leadership.

That one is nothing new.

The argument that I'm actually interested in is the claims that Emenalo was actively hindering the Chelsea managers progress and is directly responsible for our quote on quote failures.

I need proof of this, not speculation. Not guess work. And so far nobody has been able to provide this.

diggz:
I totally disagree with the bolded part above.

Sacking an assistant without the consent of the head, directly or indirectly indicates the head is powerless. And, could also mean one getting stripped off certain rights or powers.

Like I said earlier, Ancelotti did not hire the assistant or even choose his assistant in the first place. He met Wilkins there just as LVG met Giggs.
So what power was stripped from him?

Wilkins himself admits that the reason he was sacked was for arguing with Abramovic after losing to Inter Milan....so all these conspiracy theories need to be put to bed.

Only a few years later,the man would be sacked as assistant manager from Fulham for turning up to a game drunk and trying to fight with Brendan Rodgers

Shortly after that, he checked in to Rehab to treat alcoholism

There was clearly an aggressive streak there that led him to get into unwise battles and court controversy.

Remember that this is the same guy that publicly exposed Fabregas as the guy who preferred to lose than win under Jose.

I can already see logical reasons why management would choose not to carry on working with a person like that....and that sounds a lot more reasonable than Emenalo being planted as a spy.

gj22:
They r not vulnerable to fire. In fact, they quench all fire in their vicinity.

They are vulnerable to fire related items.

Valyrian steel and obsidian are both formed under extreme heat.

Ancelotti didn't hire Wilkins in the first place. He met him there.

So it's not like Ancelotti had the power to choose his own assistant in the first place.

He got.on well with Ray who actually speaks Italian. He was obviously upset that his friend got sacked, but let's not pretend that he was stripped of any sort of power in this incident.

Bigkesh, please when you have the time provide the proof that Costa and Fabregas are Jose signings.

This is quite interesting because if we can prove that Jose had the chance to sign the players that he wanted, then we would have to ask exactly what Emenalo is blamed for.

Also is signing Papy that much of a sackable offence? That's a massive judgement call to make considering we only ever saw him in action for 20 minutes.

Ibime:
[s]Bigkesh, please ignore niggas who don't know their own club


When Fabregas said Jose missed his son's football match to come and meet him in London to convince him to sign, he did not know.

When Jose said "I did not sign a striker in 2013 because I knew that Diego Costa will be available in 2014 for a set price", he was not following.

There are those who have depth of understanding and there are opinionated niggas with very shallow knowledge who've done zero research and take everything at face value.

Imagine someone asking you for proof that Costa and Fab4 are JM signings? Is that a serious Chelsea fan? When we are busy following our club maybe he is following models on Instagram, yet wants to argue indepth details of Emenalos signings with us? Before this season, such shallow person couldn't tell you where Emenalo sits in Chelsea organisational structure.

No time to educate niggas. They should talk less and follow the happenings at their club more[/s].

Oga please move on.

You've said you don't want to be disturbed. Why are you now butting into my conversation with bigkesh?

We know you don't have thr time to educate niggas.

Please swallow your aggression and enjoy the beach.

bigkesh:
First of all, no one is saying he is totally to blame but he is the main culprit.....

KDB,Lukaku,Schurrle, Van ginkel............. KDB wasn't doing well when he was sold so I can understand the failure to put a buy back clause,but Lukaku??
That time we needed to win trophies, Lukaku as our Top 9 wasn't a good idea but the guy wanted to be first choice...... Jose decided Costa was his man,a decision that was 100% on point at that time

Schurrle my arse,that dude is a fraud german with finishing.....
We can't be losing talents to lesser teams without a buyback clause and expect me not to blame the Idiot
Madrid got it on Morata and Carvajal,two big talents from their youth team

Mourinho signings are :
Costa
Fabregas
Felipe
Matic
Zouma and Cuadrado( Not sure)

Without these guys we wouldn't even make the top 4 the year we were Champions.....
Jose said we needed to strengthen to move forward because in football you can't be stagnant if you don't move forward you are moving backwards.. ..

Griezman,Witsel,Diawara,Pogba,Stones,Gaya,Ruben Neves,Marquinhos e.t.c were all his targets......
What did he get?? Hector and Djilobodji

I mean, signing Djilobodji alone is a sackable offence
The final day of the window,everyone was desperate to get someone big.....A Griezman or Pogba signing would have changed everything include the mood in the dressing room

How can you sign Djilobodji ffs?? We needed players to move us to the next level desperately and Emenalo did nothing

Put yourself in Jose's shoes.....
Bench Iva for who?? Baba?? Don't give me the ' who sold Felipe' line.....We all saw how Iva and Azpi did better than him and he asked to leave
Bench Matic for Who?? Mikel?? A Mikel that Jose clearly didn't want... The idiot was quick to negotiate the sales of KDB,Lukaku,Schurrle, Mata and co but couldn't sell Mikel??
Bench Hazard for who??
Bench Fabregas for Who? Ramirez??
Bench Costa for who?

These are his key guys, You will always be forced to think ' They might pick form today, they are the best I have'
José said something when we lost 4-2 at one to that foolish team in the FA cup,he said 'No you understand why I keep using the same Eleven almost every game',This was coming after he played his 2nd eleven against a championship side at home and Conceded 4 goals

We are talking about the ever no nonsense Jose,Someone that benched Casillas,Ramos and co...He did it because he had Varane and co
Are those the players you want him to Trust with his job??
If we had Diawara,Neves,Witsel,Griezman and Garay as back up we will be playing UCL footy next season

You think Jose would keep playing Iva if he had Baines or he would stick to Matic if he had Witsel or Hazard if he had Griezman

Jose said he needs a CB,they gave him fucking Djilobodji when others where signing Vidal,Turan and co....

Truth is Matic,Fab,Costa,Iva and co showed signs since Jan last year,Jose had to get us back to defensive football to get the trophy....

What is Miazga for goodness sake
Pato that Lepacious Bose is fitter than
Hector?? Troy ni
Cuadrado?? When we all knew Douglas was his choice



I can predict Emenalo's move this Summer.......

And you know Costa Fabregas et all are Mourinho buys how?
I need facts please and not speculation.

In a season when Dannys Simpson and Drinkwater won the league, I can't believe 'signing top players' is still an argument

kay9:
It was a dragonglass (obsidian) spearhead. That also explains why White Walkers can be destroyed by dragonglass.

I don't think the makeup of that spear is relevant to the White Walkers vulnerability to fire, obsidian and/or valyrian steel.

Ibime:
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You are an attention seeker ninja. No point you raised hasn't been covered copiously and several times over by me.

Go and revise where all those points have been covered and stop disturbing us.

We agree with your view and expect Baba, Papy, Pato, Adrian, Mikel and all other Emenalo favourites to take the league by storm next season. Afterall he told Roman the team was good enough to win the league this season and Roman believed him. We entrust our future to Emenalo, the same ninja who has steadily stripped all spine away from Chelsea since 2011. [/s]

I will not entertain your histrionics today.
I have already given you the permission to fall out.

Go back to enjoying your beach.

Can any non-passive aggressive Emenalo hater who doesn't mind being 'disturbed' table your argument jare?

raumdeuter:
The part in bold is the key point. When a player is good its Mourinho, when the player is bad its Emenalo

Just like when Chelsea plays good under Mourinho - Its the Mourinhos tactics and genius
when they play good under another coach- Its because of the players desire and the discipline they learnt under Mourinho regime
When they play bad under Mourinho - Its because the players betrayed he coach or Emenalo/Roman is instigating them
When they play bad under another coach - Its because "I have been telling you this coach is terrible"

That was why I asked for who bought those players I listed who were mostly bought under Mourinho and before Emenalo. Was it Emenalo too?

There's no doubt that some players downed tools for Jose this season, most notably Costa and Hazard..and arguably Fabregas.

But that being said, how can we not approportion blame to Jose? Who continued to play Ivanovic for every team in the land to Fvck? Who decided to have a short pre-season and allow his players come back overweight and with pot belly?
Who continued to pick fights with everybody despite fines AND red cards?

Are we saying the manager should be exempt from blame if he fails to motivate his players?

Or are we saying that a manager can only succeed with the players he brought in?

raumdeuter:
Who is responsible for these signings Jarosik, Smertin, Maniche Bhoularouz, Del Horno, SWP, Pizzaro, Ben Haim, Sidwell, Belleti, Alex, Quaresma

Pantic and Amelia were free transfers and were clearly not signed for the first team.

Hector and Miazga are young prospects signed for less than 10 million pounds between them.

The only errors there were Baba and Pato...but how many teams are ever 100% on transfers?

Is it not the same Emenalo that brought in Hazard Costa Fabregas Cortouis Cahill Zouma Lukaku etc?

Or maybe there are two TDs at Chelsea - One of them buys all the good buys. Then Emenalo brings in the dross he can find. Oh! And the managers never have a say..