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Dhelake:
You want to compare Lukaku at 19 to Loftus Cheek??

The fact that Kenedy has been getting more game time and Traore as well shows its not about Jose blocking the youths out completely

But with Fabregas form lately, i think RLC should at least start at his expense in a game like the one against Bournemouth for instance

The issue I have with Loftus Cheek is that the guy has not done anything spectacular when he played. He refused to track back, and only played short passes. He looked and played like a mixed-race Mikel Obi.

I don't watch reserve games, and I dont watch the U-21s. RLC has not played on loan anywhere else as far as I know. On what basis should we be giving him a shirt? Are we just asking that he plays because he is young?

And thats why I said that the boy needs to go out and gain experience before coming back. Big Kesh always touts these players.

Boga cannot see shirt at ordinary Rennes. PvA is just one of many flops at Sunderland. Bamford has played less than 90 minutes total in EPL this season despite the fact that at one point this season Palace's 1st, 2nd and 3rd strikers were unavailable.

Vitesse\Reserve opposition is not the same as EPL opposition. It's not even close

SailorXY:
We can employ the services of a toad to lead the chorus

nihilist how far na? can you chillax & sing verse one please??

Ibime get ready for verse two

kumbayah my lord, kumbayahhhhhh...

Mourinholic:
That was not a sub at all.....Why would I do that? Have we ever had a beef?
I was just telling you experience is clearly overrated....

If that is truly the case, then I humbly apologise and will go and redact all my posts immediately after this submission.
Text communication is not always the best medium for nuance and I may have jumped the gun.

However there are 2 things you should recognise.

1. We were not necessarily done in midfield. We were done by a goal from a set piece scramble. The goal was offside.

2. Experience matters greatly regardless of your opinion. Bournemouth are not a team with a lot of financial clout. They are not expected to beat the drop. You would imagine that a team like this would be more inclined to develop talent rather than purchase it. None of the players that Bournemouth fielded were academy products. Not a single one.

Again I apologise if you were only making a sub-less point.

AdeLaNa1:
Must we always fight in this section??

Airmark-Raumdeuter/A40
Mourinholic-Nihilist

Cant we all just hold hands and sing Kumbaya??

What really irked me is the very direct and personal nature of bigkesh's accusation, as if it is Nihilist that is doing jazz against RLC's success.

That game on the weekend suffered from finishing if anything. We weren't too good but Bournemouth were abysmal. Yes our passing in midfield was sloppy at times, but Bournemouth's goal was offside. We had 63% possesion but their keeper was the Man of the Match!

So for someone to throw sub at me...especially untop RLC matter was very annoying to me

ode ni FFK yii sha...

They just told you that a lack of accountability is the biggest enabler of corruption in Nigeria, and you are asking for evidence?

What evidence are you expecting when nothing is accounted for?

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Death Penalty is pointless. It doesn't serve as a deterrent and in many cases of the more horrific crimes, it provides an opportunity for the criminal to 'escape' the repercussions of hes\her crimes.

Also miscarriages of justice occasionally happens even within the best judicial systems. The Death Penalty can be a terrible price for a wrongly-accused innocent man to pay.

Abolish it.

Mourinholic:
Fabregas is having dreadful upon horrible games,but cmon let's keep RLC on the bench because he is not experienced and he has not played in front of a 80 000 crowd.........Abi Nihilist
How Baba is better than Ake,Bertrand and Van anholt I will never know.......

Who knows anything about this our handsome Young RB then....'MANCIENCE',Hope I got the spelling right?
We destroyed those boys honestly, I remember how good Josh was

And I presume that RLC is the lovechild of Zidane,Nedved and Pirlo...The chosen one of prophesy, immaculately conceived in Turin and destined to storm into Stamford Bridge, swift of feet and prescient in thought, and fire us back into title reckoning?

raumdeuter:
If both play to their potentials, Martial would have a better career than Lukaku. Martial has more in his Arsenal than Lukaku does

What does Martial have in his locker?

As Jose Mourinho ponders a striker conundrum at Chelsea, Everton’s Romelu Lukaku is enjoying a rich vein of form. Here, Nick Wright examines the Belgian’s rise since leaving Stamford Bridge and ponders what might have been for the Blues…

If Jose Mourinho tuned in to watch his old friend Aitor Karanka's Middlesbrough against Everton on Tuesday night, he was probably reaching for the remote after 28 minutes. It was then - after Gerard Deulofeu had opened the scoring at the Riverside Stadium - that his former striker Romelu Lukaku rose to head home his sixth goal in five games.

It was another reminder of what could have been for Chelsea had they not sanctioned his £28m departure last summer. The Belgian's 10th Premier League goal of the campaign at the weekend was rather lost in the drama of Jamie Vardy's record-breaking heroics and Diego Costa's bib-throwing petulance, but his efforts will not have gone unnoticed by Mourinho, who didn't even have a striker on the pitch as Chelsea failed to find a way past Tottenham on Sunday.

For Lukaku, a bigger landmark came a week previously, when his first goal in Everton's 4-0 thrashing of Aston Villa made him only the fifth player in Premier League history to score 50 goals before the age of 23. The rest of that esteemed list is made up of Robbie Fowler, Michael Owen, Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney. Lukaku is in good company.

Mourinho's loss has been Roberto Martinez's gain. "He is a striker who can do it all," said the Everton manager earlier this week. "He has the old fashioned traits - he can have his back to play, the strength, the power. But he can also run with the ball and is a clinical finisher."

Of course, Costa's 20-goal contribution to Chelsea's title triumph ensured complaints about Lukaku's departure did not linger for long last season. The club turned a £10m profit on the former Anderlecht prodigy and the fee helped balance the books after Costa's arrival, but Mourinho's short-termism is haunting them now.

Lukaku scored more Premier League goals in November than Costa, Radamel Falcao and Loic Remy have managed between them all season, and Kevin De Bruyne's stellar start at Manchester City is ramming the point home.

Mourinho questioned Lukaku and De Bruyne's attitudes after they were sold, but is it that unusual for talented young players to be temperamental? Could Mourinho not have done more to ease their concerns and keep them at the club?

His ruthlessness is one of the attributes that has made him so successful, but Lukaku and De Bruyne are proof that it can also be detrimental, and his tough stance with young players has resurfaced this season with his public criticism of Eden Hazard and teenager Ruben Loftus-Cheek.

Lukaku's case is special, because by the summer of 2014 he had already proved he was one of the Premier League's most effective strikers with 32 goals in 66 league appearances on loan at West Brom and Everton. And while his tally of 10 Premier League strikes in 2014/15 was lower than usual, his all-round improvement continued steadily and this year he is well on course for his most prolific campaign yet.

Having become the top scorer in Belgium and made his full international debut as a 16-year-old, it is easy to forget that Lukaku is still five months shy of his 23rd birthday. It makes his scoring feats all the more impressive and suggests he is not even close to his prime.

Premier League goals since 2012/13

Player Goals
Sergio Aguero 62
Luis Suarez 54
Romelu Lukaku 52
Olivier Giroud 48
Robin van Persie 48

Lukaku has scored more Premier League goals than Ronaldo at the same age, and since the 2012/13 season only Luis Suarez and Sergio Aguero can better his total of 52. Indeed, when Martinez highlighted Lukaku's finishing ability earlier this week he had good reason. Lukaku's shooting accuracy of 67.74 per cent is the highest of any player to have had more than 20 shots this season, and his conversion rate of 32.26 per cent only falls fractionally short of Vardy's.

Lukaku is capable of scoring with his left foot, right foot and head, but he brings a lot more to the table than goals. And while his physicality and athleticism are formidable strengths, his stunning outside-of-the-boot assist for Arouna Kone against Sunderland was an example of his frequently overlooked technical ability.

Premier League assists by strikers since 2012/13

Player Assists
Wayne Rooney 25
Romelu Lukaku 19
Rickie Lambert 18
Sergio Aguero 17
Luis Suarez 17

Lukaku has more assists than any other Premier League striker this season with four, and that level of creativity is nothing new. Since the start of the 2012/13 season, Lukaku has set up more goals (19) than any other striker with the exception of Rooney, who has frequently operated in more withdrawn positions.

The man who was predictably heralded as the new Didier Drogba when he arrived at Chelsea now counts the legendary Ivorian among his biggest admirers. "He has been working a lot to improve and to make sure that his strength and technique can work together in this league," Drogba said on Goals on Sunday this week.

"I remember he had a lot to work technically when he first signed for Chelsea, but he has got his reward for that. I texted him a few weeks ago when he gave that pass to Arouna Kone with his left foot and I told him: 'The day you do that with your right foot…!' I told him he is on the way to becoming one of the greatest in this league."

So as Mourinho and Chelsea wonder what might have been, Everton celebrate a £28m bargain. Lukaku just keeps getting better and better, and the scary thing is, he's only just getting started.

That's why I laugh when I hear the usual rubbish - "Lukaku couldn't have done it at Chelsea", "Lukaku is only plays Jambody football", -and the recent most odious one by Baba 70 Raumdeuter and his band of merry trolls - "Martial is better than Lukaku"

Dayo you should be sued for slander

adebayo201:
PFA Fans' Player of the Month- November

Chris 'Mike' Smalling
Jarmie Vardy
Mesut Ozil




Who are you going to vote for and why

Martial for me please.

Best player under 25 in England

raumdeuter:
Gerrard scored more goals (ignoring the awoof). than benkete

So if you are a decision maker who is the better scorer between Benteke and gerrard. if you have a scoring problem who would you look at

Scholes and no dey keep like Ike Anobi

But Scholes also kept cleansheet

Or you dont know that they count cleansheet for midfielders?

You need cleansheet bruv...who do you pick Scholes or Ike Shorunmu?

raumdeuter:
Penalty shootout are part of the game because both teams get equal opportunities to shoot at least 5 so if you dont take your own chances its on you

But Penalties during the game are awoof and can inflate a players stats giving a wrong picture

E.g
Player A score 2 goals from open play and 10 from the spot

Player B scores 9 goals from open play

Both played same minutes same opponents. SO tell who is the better striker

Good example in 2013/2014 Gerrard scored 13 goals 10 were penalties, Benteke scored 10 goals 2 Penalties.

Who is the better scorer? Or you need a scorer for your team who do you take benteke with 10 goals(2PK) or Gerrard 13goals(10PK)

What an analogy

You this disingenuous crafty old man

You need to keep clean sheets. Who do you pick? Scholes or Ike Shorunmu?

raumdeuter:
He won 2 in over 20yrs

Penalties are also part of the game so I dont believe he is lucky

If he was lucky to win due to penalties then we can say All EPL teams who have won the CL in the past 15yrs too were lucky since they all won through Penalties

If Fergie was lucky because of Terry slip, then Chelsea and Liverpool too were lucky

So you know this before...and you will still be shouting awoof awoof up and down...

I see that that penalty shoot out loss to Dortmund earlier in the year has tempered your skoinskoin

chrisley024:
lol. it's about having the talent and, most importantly, being lucky in the career. Very few footballers are successful. It's very risky and unpredictable to venture into.

It depends on what you class as success. Remember that success is both relative and subjective. The way the game works is that the most talented play in the top leagues, and the less talented find themselves in the lower leagues according to thier level.

Someone like Tom Cleverly could be seen to be subjectively unsuccessful based on the hype around him as a youngster, yet elatively succesful given that he is stealing earning Premier League Level Money with Championship Level Talent.

The difference in earnings may be widely disparate across the top and bottom leagues, but if a conference league team can pay their players as much as 44k pounds per annum-20k pounds more than the British average annual salary- then one can assume that any professional player that makes it to the Conference League or any of the 4 leagues above, is relatively successful...at least in comparison to the remaining 64 million people that live on these islands.

It is very risky true, but the rewards especially at EPL and Championship level far outweigh the risks

Adebayor is still earning 175k a week despite last playing professional football in March...and being without a club since September.

The other day, I saw that Jamie Vardy was earning only 850 pounds per week when he was at Fleetwood town. I dont even know where the town is, yet they could afford to pay a footballer around double the average wage earned in by regular people in the UK. And this was when they were in the Conference.

If my son refuses to play football, I will sell him and make another one.

tuniski:
it is your choice the OP is spot on. Go and work jejely for a hustler who created the work for u thoroughly! The bank employee works for the banker who owns the bank. Now who is d boss? It is boxed mentality to assume jejely that waking up by 5am and getting back by 8pm is jejely earning. Do that for yourself with same commitment and over same period u will be a better success! Wake up!

You can work hard at your own business in Nigeria with due diligence and still fail spectacularly. Nigeria is not conducive for starting and running a business. My post is merely explaining how people prefer the certainty and relative safety of a monthly paycheck to the uncertainty of striking out on your own in the badlands of Nigeria.

Do you own a Nigerian business? Did you find setting it up, funding and running it as simplistic as the OP portrays?

adegeye38:
am just trying to change your perception about business and entrepreneurship and yes, am studying and i also find a way to combine both perfectly

You haven't at all.

By your own admission, you still live at home to cut costs; which leaves me to wonder what other aspect(s) of your business are subsidised.

Judging by your profile picture and all the other things you mentioned, I don't think I'll be wrong in assuming that the capital for your 'business' wasn't self-generated.

I may well be wrong...but I seriously doubt it

8k a day works out at just under 200k. Without any idea of what margin you're working to, your initial layout, and your deviation from projected income, it's difficult to even gauge if your 'business' is actually successful.

Not that I care,mind.

Like I said earlier, if indeed you're telling the truth about your so called business, then congrats to you. My point wasn't that you cannot be successful as a Nigerian businessman. My point was that the OP failed to acknowledge the inherent risks and cash flow problems of entrepreneurship especially at that level, when promoting those kind of businesses over paid employment.

adegeye38:
what you just typed is all bullshit, my mum makes close to 200,000 as a level 15 officer working on a govt job that an average of 6000 per day if divided by 30 and 10000 per day if divided by 20 but the monthly 200,000 remain dsame, and she works 7 hours daily monday to friday

Now I, as an undergraduate i work in the transport business and i earn an ever sure 8000 naira per day after paying my assistants and working for around 7 hours also 6 days a week, and due to the fact that i still live with my family i tend to save each moneyvi make per day in the bank, that about 50000 per week, and about 208,000 per month and my monthly earnings have never been less than195,000 per month before and am in full control of my business and i earn more than my parents who have been working in the civil service for about 25 years.

Nigeria is a gold mine graduates and youths arent just willing and always myopic to see it they are thousands of ways to make it without waiting or looking for a white collar job around.

You are an undergraduate working 7hours a day, 6 days a week...

Are you actually studying at all?

Anyway, all you've done is tell me that you are running a successful business. I don't know how true it is, but congratulations all the same.
You must remember that just because a business is running smoothly for you doesn't mean it's the same for everybody else out there...

Bluffly:
I was about saying this as well. In as much as I rep business, this analysis is not so true. The Hawkers he mentioned is relative as we do not know the types of hawker he is talking about. He also forgot that even if the hawker makes 2000 per day, the same hawker might not make more than 500 for the next 3 days.

I do not conform to your last line. To move our economy forward, we need to move away from being salary dependent and seek for greener approaches which will stimulate development, technologically and socially which will eventually boost the economy.

My last line was merely explaining the rationale of most people out there especially as it pertains to starting a business in Nigeria.

I don't think a lot of people appreciate how truly bad things are in that country. The sectors that don't seem to be suffering the consequences of economic stagnation are those involving the industries of escapism - Alcohol\Tobacco, Gambling, and Religion

Rolings:
You spoke my mind, These kind of articles come from people who have done shoddy research. The Op assumes everyone must be an enterpreneur if so then who will the enterpreneur empoy? Fact is we all won't have white collar job and we all wont be enterpreneurs. Its the harsh economic conditions that make Nigerians reason like this, how can the Op say a Truckpusher is better off than a banker?
Besides the Op only calculates the earning of the Pure Water seller, truck pusher etc and not their profit. The thing is most of them incur about half of their earnings in cost while most office workers incur only transport cost. To me , the Op is so wrong.

My brother, 3 gbosas for you.

The Nigerian Economy has to be the harshest environment to run a business in.

Generally speaking, if you don't have a lot of capital and contacts(Especially Contacts), your start-up business is very likely to fail. The economy is tanking and the Naira is dropping faster than a Festac girl's pants in 2baba's bedroom.

The hurdles facing would-be entrepreneurs are so numerous that it is actually more expedient to seek a salaried job and invest the capital in property.

ojuolu:
[size=18pt]I am in a paid job [/size]

OK...

The so call steady income is the recipe for poverty. have you heard of "Iron law of wages theory"? [size=18pt]Please research this and you will never settle for a paid job[/size] especially when you have innate talents that are marketable.

Pardon?

This article is so wrong I dont even know where to begin

1. The average employee typically works a 5 day week or roughly 20 days in month. I completely disgree with the premise of the OP's dubious calculations, but even if the calculations were grounded in some sort of logic, shouldn't the OP be dividing by 20 instead of 30?

2. The OP also misses the point by comparing an employee and his steady income to Hawkers,Truckers etc with their irregular cash flow. Again I doubt the veracity of his stats with regards to the earnings of hawkers, truckers and co, but even if the stats were true, The OP still fails to consider that even though the Hawker could earn 2000 Naira in a day, he/she is not guaranteed an income of 120k per month unlike the Banker

The crux of the OP's assertion is Business Owners have the potential to earn more than employees. The OP fails to consider the level of risk that these entrepreneurs are exposed to.

For the vast majority of people, it is better to go to work and be guaranteed your 300k monthly salary jejely, than to go and out hustle with no true knowledge of when the next paycheck is coming.

raumdeuter:
Hilarious.

All things being equal After 5 plates of pounded yam, 15 whole cows, drinking 500liters of ogogoro, having a 3some with Serena, Beyonce and Shakaira in front of my papa backyard. I am also better than Messi

Only for Chelsea thread

Terry is better than Boateng, Cahill better than Boatebng, Cortouis better than Neuer, Joe Cole better than Schweinsteiger, Hazard better than Neymar and Ronaldo, Mourinho better than Guardiola Now na Matic better than Busquets

Matic would wish in his next life to be half as good as Busquets left leg


Matic ko Manic ni

Fall down and die you this onijogbon kraut!

homesteady:
Busquets coach - Busquets is the best midfielder in the world

Matic coach - Matic is in trouble, he can't even pass the ball...

The joke is on you.

Well it was pretty obvious from the second line that I was joking..

Your question was a non sequitur though. This season is an anomaly. You cant compare Busquets to a Matic that is going through a collective unbelievably lousy form...

homesteady:
You are not comparing Busquets to your darling Matic again?

All things being equal Matic is a better DM than Busquets

Unfortunately things are not very equal right now...

hensben:
Lampard is someone that play football with his brain. Very intelligent player.

Lampard is actually one of the most intelligent people in the world

olabode89:
Hahaha.....paadi Messi will struggle in Van Boring's system and 'filosofi'

I mentioned then that Lukaku's jambody system can be effective...

Oh...

My Bad...

Here I was assuming that Martial scored his 3 league goals under David Moyes

Lukaku still banging it in against the 2nd tier opposition like EPL opponents though

olabode89:
Mr. Man calm d fvck down!

Fergie was a proven coach and a winner before he came to United. He broke the old firm dominance in Scotland winning 11 Tittles consisting of 3 league titles, Uefa cup winners cup now known as the Europa Cup and Uefa Super Cup.

When he came to United in 1986 the likes of Barcelona, AC Milan, Real Madrid, Ajax, Bayern etc. were richer and could attract the best players. It was Fergie's on field success and the rebranding of the Premier league in 1992 that made United one of the richest clubs in the world.

Make una nor disrespect Fergie o

Ahh Bode How far na?

Jambody Lukaku keeps scoring against these second tier opposoition o...

Whats up with Martial...how many goals has he scored since?