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timbros:
And we had Mata when we won the Holy grail. Plus Europa the next season.

Not only that we had him, but he contributed immensely in those finals. 3 assists in 2 finals na beans?

We won't be downplaying those assists if it were Hazard who made them. #Fact

I gave up on Ibime's matter a long time ago.

Mata a 10 with supreme vison was doing the business for us. Ibime said he was a passenger.
Oscar isn't as talented as Mata but at least he tracks back. Ibime said he is visionless

When you ask who the 'visionful' 10 is that also tracks back and makes goalline clearances, Ibime will tell you that he does not believe in 10 and 4-3-3 is the way. Ibime's ultimate midfield players are Ballack, Lampard, and Jack Cork.

hush15:
Who has the comprehension issues.... me or you. When you fully comprehend my feedback, you wont be asking already answered questions.

you have severe comprehension issues

she said she was abused

You have taken that and run with it like it is a fact. Were you there? How do you know she isn't lying?

The only evidence we have to go on is their mutual communications. Now I know this is hard for you, but does that look like the kind of email a victim would send her rapist, AFTER the rape(s) had happened?

hush15:
Lemme start with flirting...

Yes , she mentioned so but tell when flirting translate to freedom to rape . Even let's say she flirted, doe that mean she consented to rape... flirting is a relative action and I don't see it as an invite to Bleep her. Not by friends or by siblings. When she flirted with friends, did she also flirt with the Siblings of Mustapha?

Also, there was an abuse. The fact that it was against her wish at a certain point but was forced is an abuse. Everybody has the right to say yes or no. And when the person says no, even if the person will say yes later, still respect the no of that moment. Not force her. Forcing her is already an abuse. Not to now mention forcing friends and siblings. Whether love him or not, he didn't have the right to force himself or friends or siblings on her which are the bases for her accusations and allegations.

I think you have some comprehension issues

Read this again.

Where is the abuse? Does Abuse exist because she claimed it did?

This girl claimed to have been so traumatised that she cannot bear to have music playing in her car.

Now look at the emails she sent AFTER this so called abuse is supposed to have happened...Does the tone of the email match up to what the girl is saying?

Allegation of Abuse is not a fact. Only an allegation.

The only clear fact here is that she was used and dumped. And using and dumping is not a criminal offence.

Raumdeuter do you still think that Martial is better than Lukaku?

Nonsense

Danhumprey:
question is,who wrote this article? a blogger? sport writer? an ex football pro? or an anonymous nonentity?





it is baffling how you of all people prefer to take the opinion of people who probably never kicked a ball in their entire life to that of ex-pros and current/active footballers and coaches. smh.


i bet even gerrard would disagree with you on this.

You should have read very clearly where I stated:
On an individual honours evel, Gerrard has more than double Scholes despite playing for a vastly inferior team team for the duration of his career.


Or was it an anonymous blogger that voted Gerrard the 3rd best player in the world in 2005? Was it someone who 'never kicked a ball in his entire life' that moved Scholes permanently to the left wing so that Gerrard could play central midfield?

PFA Team of the year is voted for by fellow players. I'm sure they have kicked the ball at least once in their entire lives. Maybe you should ask them why they've voted Gerrard into their teams a whopping 8 times compared to Scholes's 1

I doubt that Gerrard would disagree with me on this. If Gerrard had played for a big club, this argument would not even be happening...

hush15:
Yes, Nigerians are gullible. Things they should stand firm against are the ish Nigerians are either sentimental or condone.

The point is not she tried patching things up after. The problem, thus the question is did do things she said?

One. Did he forcefully indulge his friends to have a carnal knowledge of her against her will while he held her and Watch?

Two, Did the same happen with the Siblings?

Three. In spite of whatever, was the father aware of the issues and what was his reaction ?

The emails I saw are just hers, what about Mustapha responses. Don't forget, she was just 17 as at that time, a minor and possibly not in total control of her emotions due to pressures.

It is all obvious that the girl loved the guy and as some said, obsessed, well, does that give Mustapha the right to abuse the girl. Why won't she be obsessed anyway, the guy rams her like every other day nd as at that time, she was the only guy she knew. He oppressed and suppressed her with sex that a point came when she felt so emotionally attached to the guy and thus felt even if she has to live with, it has to be with the guy that abused her sexuall.

We all know how this sex thing works, atleast, fifty shades of grey enlightens us in that aspect

BUT ALL THESE DIDNT TAKE AWAY THE ABULE THAT SHE HAD TO ENDURE...

Where is the abuse? Does Abuse exist because she claimed it did?

Why is there no reference to the so called abuse in her communications to the dude AFTER they were supposed to have happened? Why does she sayin her emails that she flirted with his friends but no sex happened? Why is she so keen to contact him and keep talking about sex even after he does not return her affections.

The emails that are sent after the girl was supposedly so traumatised that she cant bear to play music in a moving car, and she can't listen to Maroon 5, contain lines affirming her love for her 'abuser'

Does that add up to you?

The only thing that boy is guilty of is using and dumping her...

I must remind you that using and dumping is not illegal....

Dadehmola:
We have trashed out this issue on numerous ocassions..

Again..


That's because Sven Goran Erickson is a clueless whimp..

No be the same coach carry 17 year old Walcott go 2006 worldcup??

Paul Scholes was the best Midfielder on the world at that time. If the aforementioned players came to Man Utd, na The likes of fletcher & Anderson dem for dey compete with!

Ex-Pro opinions count for nothing

Gerrard scored more, assisted more and was recognised more on an individual level.
Gerrard was voted 3rd best player in the world behind Dinho that year...

Abegi....

Indeed this excerpt from an article explains it all. On an individual honours evel, Gerrard has more than double Scholes despite playing for a vastly inferior team team for the duration of his career. Champagne no be tombo abeg...

Look back at articles about him being world class. They are generally written a decade after his peak. Check who won votes in the Ballon Dor and PFA player of the year awards. Fellow pros have nice quotes about him, but he wasn’t rated that highly in his pomp.

Scholes seems to be the beneficiary of four forces. First, players who have a run of form late in their careers get a positive re-write on when they were at their peak.

Second, projection of what many people view as the “right” way to play football back to when Scholes actually played his football. Because you could imagine him being mates with Xavi (quiet, small, enjoy passing the ball around), it stands to reason that peak Scholes was good enough for Barcelona – the bestest team in the universe ever.

Third, the assumption that he was under used by England. If only he had been played more, used better, then they would have won the world cup. Fourth, the “stands out in a crowd” theorem. Redheaded (and for that matter blonde or otherwise distinctive looking) players stand out more and are more easily recollected, typically receiving greater acclaim than their more forgettable peers (Malcolm Gladwell wrote about this in Outliers). Pirlo and his beard, Gullit and his dreadlocks – different eras and both overrated. Mario Ballotelli has made a career out of this principle.

And he seems like a nasty piece of work. Am I the only one who hears that tiresome tale of him booting the ball in to a team mate’s head from distance and doesn’t think “what technique” but “what a tosser.”

So can the revisionism please cease. He didn’t play for England more because Gerrard and Lampard were far superior players. He didn’t win individual awards because Keane, Giggs and Beckham were all even more superior. He wasn’t England’s lost genius footballer…we’ve had one of them in the 40 years I have been watching and he didn’t play for United.

Paul Scholes. Slightly better than Nicky Butt. But couldn’t tackle and seems like a w*nker.

Dadehmola:
Nihilist...From now on, bow down to Scholes and recite these Eulogies everyday (1st thing in the morning)!

Jose Mourinho: “Why isn’t he playing for England? It is crazy. Only in England. Scholes is a great, great player. So experienced and still, for me, one of the best in the world in midfield. Manchester United are lucky to have him.”

Pep Guardiola: “Out of everyone at Manchester United, I would pick out Scholes – he is the best midfielder of his generation. I would have loved to have played alongside him.”

Marcello Lippi: “ Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team. That goes to show how highly I have always rated him. An all-round midfielder who possesses quality and character in abundance.”

Socrates: “Good enough to play for Brazil. I love to watch Scholes, to see him pass, the boy with the red hair and the red shirt.”

Pele: “If he was playing with me, I would score so many more.”

Zinedine Zidane: “There is no doubt for me that Paul Scholes is still in a class of his own. He’s almost untouchable in what he does. I never tire of watching him play. You rarely come across the complete footballer, but Scholes is as close to it as you can get. One of my regrets is that the opportunity to play alongside him never presented itself during my career.”

Luis Figo: “I’m star-struck when I see Paul Scholes because you never see him. On the pitch you can’t catch him. Off the pitch he disappears.”

Ronaldinho: “I want to pass like him. Who taught him how to do that?”


Xavi Hernandez: “In the last 15 to 20 years the best central midfielder that I have seen — the most complete — is Scholes. I have spoken with Xabi Alonso about this many times. Scholes is a spectacular player who has everything. He can play the final pass, he can score, he is strong, he never gets knocked off the ball and he doesn’t give possession away. If he had been Spanish then maybe he would have been valued more.”

Who cares what a bunch of ex-pros have to say about him after he retired? Why wasn't he recognised in his heydays?

Gerrard and Lampard came to meet him in England squad and chased him away from his natural position to the left wing and forced him to retire before the age of 30.

im too sure Gerrard would have chased him away to the wing at Manyoo if Ferguson was successful in his pursuit of him.

hush15:
All these doesn't negate the fact that she was assaulted. Nobody is arguing the fact that the had something going. The question is did he commit the offence or not.

A husband who has sexual rights over her wife still rapes his wife not to mention a mere relationship.

Let's be objective, not sentimental.....

The emails were sent from America AFTER,by her own accounts the 'rapes' had stopped...

So she was still in love with him after several rapes?

Nigerians are so gullible sha...

Ibime:
All that one na Roy of the Rovers storylines. For example, Benayoun dominated Gerrard to shege in that 2006 FA Cup final, against West Ham of all people, before Gerrard had to dig out his long range shots after being pissed on in midfield all game. It looks all good digging out last minute shots, but I prefer ninjas who dominate the midfield and win cleanly, rather than telling us story how you dug out a struggling team.

As for Roy Keane, I no dey take am play after that Juventus game.

Juve were undoubtably the best team in Europe then, dominating Serie A (the best league by far), boasting players like Nedved, Davids, Inzaghi, Deschamps, Del Piero and Zidane to boot.

They won UCL in 96, and were finalists in 1997 and 1998. So when Manure drew them in 1999 semi, I was busy celebrating.

They came to Old Trafford and took a 1-1 draw, everybody said they would smash Manure in Turin. . . . until Keane put in this performance to take a 3-2 win. From then on, I no dey carry Keane play


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2RVQx8J2Sk

Nobody argues that Keane was inflential....

But Gerrard shits on him talentwise

Gerrard was just as influential + more skills

If he had gone to Manyoo when Ferguson wanted him, do you think we would be here debating his greatness?

Gerrard built a career of carrying Liverpool on his Back.

Istanbul 2005. The FA CuP final against West Ham the next year. So many examples of Gerrard dragging Liverpool by the scruff of the neck.

And Gerrard is better than Scholes Abeg. If he wasn't too sentimental, he could have gone to Manyoo and been Scholes. Or he could have come to us.

Remember this guy caused Scholes to retire from England before the age of 30.

Ibime:
Keane and Makelele first before you even get to Gerrard. I would probably add Alonso, Essien and Ballack if they stayed in EPL longer.

I'm pissed not having space in my team for Keane, na Gerrard I go come add?

Keane will only make my team for inspirational reasons. Technique limited. Scoring ability limited.

Gerrard is Keane + Skills.

Xabi Alonso is Makelele + Skills.

Neither Kean nor Claude will make my team

Ibime:
Steve Bruce can never make even EPL 7th 11. Someone who could not even win a single England cap.

From Man Utd alone, Ronny Johnsen, Vidic, Ferdinand and Jaap Stam are greater than him, talkless of the famous Arsenal back four of the 1990s and early 2000s, The Chelsea back four of the mid-2000s or niggas like Sol Campbell, Ledley King, Sammi Hyppia, Lucas Radebe etc

Tony Adams must make the 11. His centre-back partner would be any of Vidic, Stam, Ferdinand, Terry or Campbell depending on your preference.

My team:

Schmeichel

. Adams Vidic Stam

. Vieira Scholes

. Lampard
. Ronaldo Giggs

. Shearer Henry


Subs:

Cech
Neville
Cole
Keane
Pires
Bergkamp
Van Nistelrooy

Gerrard over Scholes for me. I don't want Blind overrated ginger Albinos in my team. And he couldn't tackle too

Falcao, Djibidjibilobodji suppose start for the Chelsea Flops FC.

Kezman too.

And then we can support them from the stands by chanting Greenday's boulevards of broken dreams.

And please make sure Bolathouz keeps that number 9 shirt.

I don't understand what madam Ezeks is trying to imply here.

Her friends daughter is a groupie and a spare tyre. All the numerous incidents of 'rape' happpened in either the home, office, car or swimming pools belonging to the Audus

I've never heard of rape- so good that the victim keeps coming back for more.

The only thing to cry about here is that her daughter didn't get a ring out it...

Groupie love.

Ain't no fun if the homies can't get none.

This girl is a retired ex-groupie looking for relevance by telling tall tales...

Everyday is black for a black man

A lot of truth is said in Jest - Geoffrey Chaucer

Sturridge suffers yet another injury

Ibime do you still think the boy is unlucky?

More like cursed.

This guy has now suffered 2 different injuries while recovering from a 3rd...

Na goat milk the boy for don suck as pikin, no be breast milk...

Unlike the Bayernliga

Dongorgon5:
How will someone in his right sense pick mata over haazard in the hole!!!
Only David silva can make me play hazaard on the right wing.

Ermmm...

I honestly don't even know what to say to this...

Sh0llypopz:
How much is minimum wage per hour in Nigeria?? Calculate the number of hours that this girl would work as a maid and a nanny in the home, and figure out her salary for a month. Now deduct expenses for books and sundry, I bet the op is the one getting the better deal here.

The op is not her madam and there is no dignity in child labor. You clearly have a barbaric mentality.

Before castigating the OP, you must ask yourself what kind of condition would force the parents of that 15 year old girl into sanctioning her move into the househelp industry.


Nigerian environment is different though.
Not saying it's ethical, but the househelp economy is quite often a win-win for both parties.

A kid that isn't in school at the age of 15 is more often than not coming from a poor background. Nigerian brand of poverty is literally hell on earth. The food tastes twice as bad, the mosquitoes are twice as big, and the criminals are twice as mean.

At least, the op sent the girl to school. At least the girl had food to eat and a roof over her head...

Sagamite,

You can claim tuition fees as tax deductible expenses.

The caveat is that you have to be able to prove that the tuition is for a course that enhances your ability to carry out your current contract.

Moat contractors will never or very rarely have to defend thier expenses claim to HMRC, so a contractor can just claim his girlfriend's tuition down as a training expense and forget about it.

It's only if and when he has to defend it that wahala dey. And I've never ever heard of a contractor who's actually had to submit his receipts to the taxman for auditing...

raumdeuter:
Airmark, gamesmart, toby77. I think I see the sense in some of the things IlekeHD is saying that the court would be the best place to resolve this

Why. The current plan is that coogar pays Babe and the case dies.

In the course of these exposition we have found out that while some credit card transactions were charged back, Some went through into buying Chanel shades, Louis Vuiton purses, Zara, expensive materials, That means there is a Mr John Doe somewhere in USA whose credit has been ruined or whose retirement account has been cleaned out

If we are really interested in justice for all parties involved, then Who gets justice for that Mr John Doe? or should he take the loss because he isnt on NL and has no NL mediator to collect his own stolen money?

Is there any need to take it that far?

EfemenaXY:
You do not know that for sure. And neither do I.

The point is, Gamesmart's assertion that without a visa, you can't get work in the UK is wrong. You can work in the UK even if you're from a non-EU country.

Whether he does have that level of skill or not is a different issue.

You can't get work without the right paperwork. You can't even apply for work without the right paperwork.

While it's true that some organisations offer sponsorship to highly skilled individuals, the individual has to be living legally in the uk in the 1st place.

*Zooms in with customised all black Keke Napep with alloy wheels*

Let's get the party started...

FBS:
Na man. This was a match winning performance. Every single player pulled in a tremendous shift.

The same Leicester that was fighting relegation are having a great season so far.

MU struggled against new boys Watford.

Point is NEVER underestimate your opponent and Don't even try to belittle any achievement. It was a very much needed win.

Now let me enjoy RM vs Barca, Pools Vs Citra and June vs Milan. Oh what a night.

It's a much needed win...

But you need to curb your enthusiasm. This was not total football. If we could not beat Norwich today, we should have just asked the FA to relegate us straight...

DJ?