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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 6:54pm On Aug 04, 2014
I give up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 6:51pm On Aug 04, 2014
Elampiro positions are very fluid in football.

Infact, I would argue that contrary to what people think, united actual line up in a tweaked version of 343 based on the Rmadrid game I watched

Mata to me seems to function more as a false 9 under Van Gaal than a pure 10, and Rooney and Welbeck actually play wide.

Off the ball, Welbeck and Rooney were pressing the Madrid fullbacks, and operated mainly like inverted wingers.

The 1st goal in particular highlights this fact in the way Madrid's right back was lured in, so Young could ghost in and score.

Tactical flexibility means players can switch responsibilities on the fly.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 6:25pm On Aug 04, 2014
elampiro: I didn't understand your Valencia and Rafael's example.

However, for Val to be considered as playing as wing back, there shouldn't be a permanent right full back behind him. And for Rafael to be considered as playing as a wing back, he shouldn't be part of a four man defence and playing behind a winger at same time.
I just gave you a classic example of how Wingbacks are employed at Barcelona.

Oya let's look at your team.

On the right flank, Valencia is notoriously one footed, can't 'drimble' and likes to hug the byline.

Rafael also likes to get up into the opposing half.

Where the likes of Nani will cut in and open space for Rafael, Valencia hasn't got the inclination and/or skill to do so.

So what happens? Valencia sees an obstacle he can't beat, and then either passes left to his central midfielder, or right to Rafael.

When Rafael bombs forward, Valencia sits in his position.

Stop me when I start telling lies. Any of you can.

So we seen a winger who occasionally swaps position with his fullback.

Wikipedia has told us that Wingback = Winger + Fullback

So what's the argument?

We are discussing duties here bruv, and not system.

Or do the central midfielders in a 442 have different duties to central midfielders in a 352?
EducationRe: A Thread For Students Coming To The UK: My Experience Shared by Nihilist: 6:15pm On Aug 04, 2014
Lest I forget, it is IMPORTANT to think 2-3 steps ahead from the get go.

Do you want to stay in the UK after your course or are you going back?

If you intend to stay, then you need to start planning for job and sponsorships.

The recruitment process for graduate jobs in September start in December/January before( I think) so you need to get busy ASAP.

If you get into a relationship with a British passport holder you intended to be with, you will want to move in with him/her and get joint accounts/bills ASAP

Time goes so quickly, and you easily find yourself at the airport wishing you'd planned ahead...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:54pm On Aug 04, 2014
elampiro: * Did you see that? 3-5-2 or 5-3-2.

* You have just helped my argument. Is this not what I have been saying all along? There is a difference between a wing back and a full back, also a winger. Wing backs don't have full backs behind them. They play in front of three CBs. They cover the length and breath of their flank. In 4-4-2, we have full backs and wingers. Valencia is a winger while Rafael is the right full back. They may however support themselves with overlapping runs or tracking back.

* Note again. Winger, Wingback, fullback are all different. I will explain soon.
I completely understand what you are saying, but I think where you are making the mistake is assuming that footballers stay static all game.

Barcelona would famously line up in 433 formation, but switch to a 343 during the game with the Busquets dropping between the centerbacks and Alves and Alba pushing up as Wingbacks.

Valencia also used to do that a lot in Ferguson's final season. Evra and Rafael would bomb forward while Carrick sat back. Valencia and Welbeck would then be tasked with some defensive duties.

If you say the system has changed, I agree.

But in terms of duties, very little has changed for Valencia.
EducationRe: A Thread For Students Coming To The UK: My Experience Shared by Nihilist: 5:24pm On Aug 04, 2014
If you smoke be prepared.

Smoking is VERY expensive here.

No aboki selling sticks, and it costs around 5 pounds for a pack of 10 in most shops

Igbo is even worse, here weed is sold by weight
a gram of weed costs 10 pounds(10-bag)

2 grams cost 20 pounds(20-bag)

Though in some cities up north, you can get up to an eight(3.5g) for the same 20 quid

A gram is only enough to roll 2 joints, so most peeps including myself smoke blunts(Igbo mixed with tobacco) instead.

A word to the wise, due to the advanced hydroponics involved in growing the THC-heavy strains here, some of you might find the Igbo here stronger than what you're used to...so go very easy at first and gauge yourself

Oh you might also want to purchase a small set of digital scales to weigh your purchase...some of the dealers here will think nothing of ripping you off if they know you're new in town.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 4:50pm On Aug 04, 2014
elampiro: Here, Coogar thinks or even defined wing backs as wingers who track back to help his defence.



Here it's the defenders, not wingers anymore.





How can we have two wing backs on same flank in same match, or even four wingbacks for a team in a particular match?




This tells me that what Gaal is doing is far different and special.
The wing-back is a modern variation on the full-back with heavier emphasis on attack. The name is a portmanteau of "winger" and "full-back". They are usually employed in a 3-5-2 formation, and could therefore be considered part of the midfield, although they may also be used in a 5–3–2 formation, in which they would have a more defensive role.

In the evolution of the modern game, wing-backs are the combination of wingers and full-backs.
-Wikipedia

Valencia has always played this position for united. I would argue that Rafael and Valencia were both fielded as wingbacks on the right flank, with perhaps slightly more defensive duties for Rafael.

Both players were required to take up advanced positions and perform defensive duties at the same time.
Isn't his defensive resilience one the reasons many of you have praised Valencia on this thread?
EducationRe: Tehn Is Calling All School Leavers To Apply For TNRI Scholarship by Nihilist: 4:37pm On Aug 04, 2014
I've seen that the grant is to be reviewed biannually...so what level of commitment is the applicant to expect from TEHN?

1 years worth of funding? Or the entire duration of the course?

I've only skimmed through the documents so forgive me if these questions are redundant...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 1:48pm On Aug 04, 2014
To be honest, the difference between the Wing Back and Winger or Wing Back and Full Back is very minute.

The name Wing Back suggests a cross(pun intended) between winger and full back.

Valencia in particular has been more or less playing as a wing back for the last 2 seasons, hence his occasional appearances at RB and he is Van Gaal's obvious choice in the Wing Back position over Rafael.

Coogar is right in this on this one.

Valencia is doing exactly the same as he was last season
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Nairaland Fantasy Premier League 2014/2015 by Nihilist: 12:08pm On Aug 04, 2014
Austeenx: Wait, who's Miz Reama? shocked
mUKI
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 10:42am On Aug 04, 2014
Na who go dey like my post sef?

Werrin dey worry una?

My hand no dey o angry
PoliticsRe: The Lions Den Of Arewa by Nihilist: 8:00am On Aug 04, 2014
Is there anyone of these guys that hasn't exploited cronyism and favourable government contracts/monopolies?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 7:52am On Aug 04, 2014
Torres's confidence is finished.

Back in the day on the streets of Port-Harcourt, there was this kid who was known far and wide as one of the best 'drimblers' in the Rumuola area

The guy was so good, he was already playing for a semi-pro club aged 12 and there was talk of going pro blah blah

Then he broke his leg on the pitch one day and things were never the same. When he came back, he became scared to 'drimble'.

Anytime he got the ball, his opponents would shout at him "leave am, leave am, I go jam you o"

The effect it had on his confidence was extreme and eventually he gave up football altogether.

He became very fat and moved to London in 2002.

Now every time he watches Torres play, he recognises the same failure and so he gets very angry.

Angry at himself....

Angry at Torres...

Angry at hermaphrodites...

Some of you might recognise the biography...

I no call names o grin grin
CelebritiesRe: Celebrities And Their Childhood And Youthful Pictures by Nihilist: 8:04pm On Aug 03, 2014
grin grin grin grin
I swear I no know which one make me laugh pass

This one with the baggy clothes
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1596456_20140803160652_jpeg713fd682913dab8e3191f109ded5675f

Or this one with the Apola Pam Slippers and Baggy Jeans
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1596389_20140803160537_jpegf8a9d85027741089c0805006e11cbfbd

Cos We wore them all!!!

Damn...Fashion in the late 90's early Noughties was a bastard...

These days when I see my pics with my And-1 sleeveless, Baggy Jeans, and Fubu boot with Nike Headband and Bandana in my pocket...I just want to cry grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Nihilist: 7:10pm On Aug 03, 2014
So you mean Arsenal still cant even win the Emirates trophy?

Seems like it's back to losing ways for the gayners grin grin
CrimeRe: British Police Offer Reward For Info On Murder Suspect Who Fled To Nigeria by Nihilist: 4:00pm On Aug 03, 2014
SirShymex: Are you sure it was 04. I was still in sec school then. And I know he used to run around with Timer and Knuckz.
Yeah It was Summer 04.

I remember that story well. Me and some of my boys couldn't believe the amount of brutality involved.

Ramming man of his bike, then shooting him down, then walking up to him to shoot him in the face.

All in broad day.

That was PEAK
CrimeRe: British Police Offer Reward For Info On Murder Suspect Who Fled To Nigeria by Nihilist: 3:27pm On Aug 03, 2014
SirShymex: Shocked you don't know Tipsy(he's a naij man as well) from firehouse, a true g. He was murked in Camberwell by the yardies in 03. He just came out of the bin on temporary probation, was on his power bike when they ran him over. He got up and started running, but the yardies emptied two mac-10s on his body. OG money maker - he had everywhere on lock back then stil. Raver got indefinite life bid - boy dem had to lock my man up forever cah they couldn't pin anything on him but caught him slippin' - narm legend. grin
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Nihilist: 2:57pm On Aug 03, 2014
All Finsbury park go dey smell now....

All these gayners stinking up blackstock road and seven sisters...

And dem go still lose sef angry
Christianity EtcRe: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nihilist: 7:19am On Aug 03, 2014
My question is if God is the father...who is the mother?

And why has she been omitted from the bible?
CrimeRe: British Police Offer Reward For Info On Murder Suspect Who Fled To Nigeria by Nihilist: 7:02am On Aug 03, 2014
Black on Black violence is a terrible thing...

Everybody involved in this murder was African...Perp, Victim, Accomplice

Why is the black man his own greatest enemy?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 9:46pm On Aug 02, 2014
hmmmm.....

Seems like young has finally discovered his destiny...as an attacking fullback
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 2:46pm On Aug 02, 2014
I'm not even slightly bothered about the Lampard to City move... If anything I think that it's a pretty good move for Frank.

He gets to stay in England and see his family...he also gets paid to relax

There are simply too many central midfielders ahead of him at City for him to get regular game time, so good luck to him if the deal comes through..

Nothing better than a paid holiday..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Nairaland Fantasy Premier League 2014/2015 by Nihilist: 10:57am On Aug 02, 2014
^^

You know Lukaku has already joined Everton right?

Also the 'new bonus point system' for defenders was implemented last season and is already a year old...


Sturridge played the 1st six games of last season as the lone striker while Suarez was injured and scored 6 goals I think...

I'm sure he'll be able to do it again...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 4:56pm On Aug 01, 2014
ElFenomeno1: Jacking lines from time immemorial...... cu..m slurping gasbag!
Die by fire, you cross-eyed, one-legged hobgoblin, so you can choke on satan's Di...ck in hell
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 4:46pm On Aug 01, 2014
ElFenomeno1: Mayhem on the chavs thread........ cheesy
You this diseased fellow never die? Choke on a fat di...ck
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 4:44pm On Aug 01, 2014
peterrParker: you're a stupidd fela, if you were a pope, you would smoke in a mosque. Chelsea is cursed!
https://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1877074/ron-simmons-damn-o.gif
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 9:59pm On Jul 31, 2014
afrodoc: Mata is 1st choice in the hole, kagawa 2ns choice.
Herrera in central midfield but with licence to move into attacking positions, seems cleverley is 2nd choice there.

fletcher appears to be 1st choice in d more defensive midfield position for now.
Nice one.

I'm just agonizing over my fantasy football team this year
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 9:19pm On Jul 31, 2014
Those of you who've watched your preseason games...how have Mata and Hererra been fielded position wise?

Who is 1st choice for the hole?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Nairaland Fantasy Premier League 2014/2015 by Nihilist: 9:01pm On Jul 31, 2014
Ideye and Odemwingie...

I'm tempted to sign 1 Nigerian striker based on 'We-We'

At 6.5 they're looking quite cheap too.

Ideye is guaranteed starts after West Brom broke the bank to sign him...and Odemwingie is classed as a midfielder this yeareven though he plays up front so there's serious potential for bonus points...

I'm just concerned about Ideye's uselessness when playing for Nigeria...but any club who pays 10 million for him must be able to see something else that we didnt...

Decisions, decisions...

hmm
PoliticsRe: MOVIE: Aregbesola’s Life Story Hits Cinemas by Nihilist: 7:16pm On Jul 31, 2014
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Drake ft Salawa Abeni and Olamide - Started from Eko remix

Notorious B.I.G. ft Salawa Abeni and Olamide - Juicy(contracts) remix

Kelly Handsome ft Salawa Abeni and Olamide - Magas don vote

Get your copy now...

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