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As far as the ancient Egyptians were concerned . . .[size=15pt]Arabs did not even exist.[/size]

[quote author=Abuzola 1 link=topic=352044.msg5041466#msg5041466 date=1259847638]So you replied. Chei what a shame, wallayi i knew that you can't resist me cos all am saying is the truth.



And who told you that 5,000 Bc wasn't the era of ishmael, don't even support your quote with bible referrence coz it is plagarized.

Whether you hate it or not Egypt/misra was a dominant land of the arab, the blacks in Egypt constitute to 1/4 of white egyptian arab and thats only in southern Egypt. The blacks were only dominant on a side of Egypt when the arab moved there they cleared the bushes and occupy large of the forsaken bush. What the heck are you saying[/quote]. . . Complete and utter nonsense . . .

Now I am sure that the Arabs have either completely brainwashed you into think they are Egyptians or you yourself are the one who brainwashed yourself into believing that.

Or worse maybe you are even an Arab masquerading as a Nigerian . . .

To show you how completely wrong and confused what you are saying is:

- Abraham went to Egypt. . . meaning that Egypt was already existing by the time of Abraham.
- Hagar was an Egyptian.
- If Ishmeal is the father of Arabs (as Arabs are claiming) . . . then the means that Egypt existed even before Ishmeal was born.
- There are archeaological evidences showing that Egypt is an African civilisation.
- Egyptians themselves said that they came from the interior of Africa. . . around the region of Nubia/Ethiopia
- Arabs are illiterate nomadic tribes.


ABUZOLA YOU HAVE BOXED YOURSELF INTO A CORNER . . . and I am not going to let you go scot free in this one . . . . . .unless you admit that you are completely wrong.

Abuzola to show you how brainwashed and false you are . . . the following images show how THE EGYPTIANS THEMSELVES SHOWED US THEIR SKIN COLOUR AND THE SKIN COLOUR OF THE ANCIENT ISREALITES.

olabowale:
Is there anything a muslim is higher than another except by God piety? Nothing else, and skin color means nothing!

Tell that to the Black African who were forced out of North Africa by Arabs.
Tell that to the Black Africans being made slaves in Present day North Africa and Arab muslim dominated countries.
Tell that to the Black Africans being discriminated against by Arabs and Arabised Africans in present day Sudan.
Tell that to Allah that equates "Black" with "Jinn" and "Evil".
Tell that to someone who is ignorant of Islam.
Tell that to the millions of slaves that were traded by Arabs, uptill the last century.


Keep deceiving yourself.

[quote author=Abuzola  1 link=topic=352044.msg5041100#msg5041100 date=1259844040]@atheism: if you don't no history keep quiet.

The arabs have been in Egypt 5,000 Bc,

The white arab are called semitic white making up to 85 percent of Egyptian, we have the black arabs known as nubian making 1/4 of the southern Egypt and sudan. Ancient remain of pharaoh were believed to be white arab though in some cases black are found as well.[/quote]

- You need to take your teachers to court for teaching you nonsense . . . you also need to collect a refund of the money you paid to them.
- Do yo know the meaning of BC
- Do you know the meaning of 5000 years

The word Arab is a knew development so where did you get 5000BC  . . . do you even realise that it means Arabs did not descend from Abraham. Since Abraham did not exist like 5000years ago, 

Do you even both to read your post before posting it sef.

Are you now confirming to me the Ishmeal is not the Father of Arabs . . . and that Ishmeal is different from Arabs.

Abuzola please keep on talking the more you talk the more you keep exposing yourself . . .please continue talking.

Now let me give you a little explanation of history, since its obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.

Ham is believed to be the Father of Most Black Africans.
Ham is the Father of Mizraim(i.e. Egypt), Ethiopia, Nubia etc
Arabs are not Nubians.
Arabs are not Egyptians.

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THAT ALONE IS EVEN ENOUGH TO SHOW YOU THAT YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG AND BRAINWASHED INTO BELIEVING LIES.[/size]

Egyptians left evidences and information for us to know that Egyptians were people that originated in Africa.
Arabs are not Egyptians.
Arabs are Arabs end of story.
Egyptians are not Arabs.


Arabs are not indigenous to Africa.
Arabs are colonialist in Africa.
Arabs started coming into Africa after the Romans started leaving Africa.






ABUZOLA PLEASE CONTINUE TO TALK . . . I BEG YOU . . . PLEASE CONTINUE TO TALK.

I AM REALLY ENJOYING THIS WAY THAT YOU KEEP EXPOSING YOURSELF AND THE KIND OF LIES THAT YOU BELIEVE.

vislabraye:
Some one said it is symbolic. Symbolic my foot. Please accept Jesus

I have said Roman Catholicism is not really different from Islam . . .

If the Black Stone is symbolic - then Catholics can also claim statue of Mary is symbolic.

If stoning Satan is symbolic - then Catholics can also claim that Transubstantion is also symbolic or real or whatever.

If the Kabba is symbolic - then Catholics can also claim that bowing down to the statue of Mary and Jesus is also symbolic.

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lets remember that Islam was developed partly in response to the prevalent brand of Christianity at that time (yes you guess right it was Roman Catholism)[/size].

Now you know part of where Mohammed got is false history about christianity. . . cus in reality Roman Catholism was dominant around that time.

Does anyone by any chance notice the similarity in item and concept of use between the Catholic Rosary and Islamic Tesbiu


Na wa o . . o Islam no even get shame . . .dem even plagiarised the Catholic Rosary sef . . . . 

auwal87: Stoning the devil is symbolic, it doesn't mean that the devils feels pain physically, but of course effects your faith as a Muslim that you have done away with the evils with you. Take for an instance, Satan is there watching them stoning the Jamrat, wouldn't he must remember the day that Prophet Abraham stoned at him at the exact same location.

"When he [Abraham] left Mina and was brought down to (the defile called) al-Aqaba, the Devil appeared to him at Stone-Heap of the Defile. Gabriel said to him: “Pelt him!” so Abraham threw seven stones at him so that he disappeared from him. Then he appeared to him at the Middle Stone-Heap. Gabriel said to him: “Pelt him!” so he pelted him with seven stones so that he disappeared from him. Then he appeared to him at the Little Stone-Heap. Gabriel said to him: “Pelt him!” so he pelted him with seven stones like the little stones for throwing with a sling. So the Devil withdrew from him."

Please people you should be honest of yourself, it is history that you cannot change, so you must believe on what it is about or totally ignore it.

WHAT THE HECK IS THIS UNSUBSTANTIATED FAIRY TALE . . .OF WHITE ARABS TRYING TO LINK THEMSELVES TO ABRAHAM. . . via the use of a bogus rubbish false story.

auwal87: Back to the death of Pilgrims, there are more than 2 million people going to Hajj every year, they spent an average of 2 weeks there, if you look at the size of the area it is clear to you that it is normal for such stampede to happen. Honestly the authorities are trying to safeguard the lives of the Hajjis, every year they make changes that will enhance the Hajj process and improve safety.

All in all, it is all about faith, many Hajjis have been praying to go to Hajj and die there, not a suicide though, but just a hope.

I wish all Hajjis a safe return to their homes.

- I do not support the death of anybody whether muslim or non-muslim.
- The issue however is not about the death of people, instead it is about why people would risk their lives to go and worship an idol in Mecca:
- I mean the islamic idol and idol worship consisting of "Black Stone, Stoning the Devil, Kabba house of idols, Bowing towards the East, Sacrifising of Animals"
- Now you see why it is much much easier for a muslim to be involved in Yoruba withcraft . . . since in reality, there is little different between practices in withcraft and the things that muslims have to do to please their false demon god known as Allah.

delegiwa:
I must say your post is very enlightening and I like the tone too.  Since we are all scholars I can say you've taught some of us something about your religion [/b]and that is how it should be instead of the usual all out fight that has taken over this thread.

. . . WHAT THE HECK . . .

Please speak for yourself and stop using the word "[b]us", where you are supposed to use the word "me"

- Are you a praise singer or what is the rather political correct statement that i highlighted.

- There is nothing to teach in Islam, you do not need to be taught . . . you can read it yourself . . .jeez you sound like so politically correct.

- Its only someone who does not want to learn by himself or herself that takes pride in being taught by someone representing something he or she is trying to criticise.

- Who the heck are you . . . let me guess   you are going to claim that you are a probably not a muslim right  . . . .   . . . very funny.

Islam is evil pure and simple . . . there is nothing to be taught .

ISLAM AND ITS LIES SPEAK FOR ITSELF.

dgreatrock:
Oh you want him to loss out of paradise and go to hell eh

Which paradise . . . Allah's paradise or the coming Kingdom of the Messiah.



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I certainly do not want him to die as a muslim, however in order to expose islam he needs to continue talking so that he himself would get the opportunity to see and know how what he is saying is completely errant nonsense.

oloriooko:
@ poster.
I think it will get worse cos many children are going to be born to the muslims thereby increasing the followership. So the issue of stoning the devil will only get worse with more casualties.
But is the Saudi govt. not planning to do something about this?
How can 15 people die on HOLY pilgrimage and yet it is treated with such non challant attiutde?
Is it lawful to die during the pilgrimage?
Or do people deliberately kill themselves just to earn the title of dying in Mecca?
Is this not an abuse on the human rights of the attendees at the pilgrimage?
I think the Saudi govt. should be made to face the music of such horrible event and account for the people that show up for the pilgrimage!
Anyway, i feel very touched for the death of these people and may God console the families. (if they are not rejoicing presently that one of their own passed on in the Holy Land!)

[quote author=Aloy~Emeka link=topic=360840.msg5039098#msg5039098 date=1259813677]I just quoted Abuzola, who happens to be a very respected faithful among nairaland muslims even though he has a knack for insulting kufirs. He clearly said that there are many school of thoughts that teach different doctrines and one can choose any one he or she wants as long as it suits his or her lifestyle. So if there is no underlying standard for measuring the Islamic faith, how may they claim that all these rules and regulations come from allah?. Allah is one yet he teaches different things to different islamic faithfuls depending on their social and religious leaning. Should the Allah who is one teach them one doctrine?[/quote]Welcome to the world of islam . . . now you know why Abrogation and De-abrogation is quite a useful tool in Islam. . . you can just pick and choose what you want.

Muslims please leave Abuzola alone . . .he is doing very well . . .I would personally prefer that he continues to talk . . .

1. Can any muslim please explain to me the use of the Black Stone.

2. Why it is part of the Kabba.

3. What role it plays in islam.

4. What would happen if a non-muslim decides to destroy it.

dayokanu:
You mean disciplines of Assene self-servicer/WenGAY are doomed to a lifetime of trophylessness?

Unless we buy Frank Robbery, Miroslav Farther, Loser Toni, Philipp Lame and Ajeee Robben



At least that wway we can be guaranteed of being just 6 points from the leaders.  . 

muhsin:
Let me tell ya, woman, I was part of that exercise. I swore to my Creator this is a blatant lie. I, for example, added not a single person. May God punish me if I am telling lie. And may He punish you if you think I am telling lie. . .agreed?  

1. Which creator would that be . . .the one in The Black Stone or the one of the Bible.

2. Your swearing holds no water so don't bother yourself.

@oyb

how is the baby and mother sef . . .

This man take it easy oh . . . .

dayokanu:
Plight of Bayern Munich? 6 points behind league leaders and alive in all competitions

Still in DFB Pokal, Still with a chance of qualifying in the CL.

This night in case you dont know, Arsenal has been kicked out of one competition, 11 points behind in the league,

CL everyone knows Assanal cannot win so FA cup left.

Story . . . 


All we are saying . . . we can sleep cus Bayern is Poo . . . 

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Leave the Gaynners alone . . . .let Arsenal continue to develop for the future 2012


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If its not Arsene Wengay it cannot be like Wenger . . . .

oyb:
continue with your ridicule of those who shun prefer the hereafter to the brief enjoyment of this world

Off course now why would some of them not want to die for the sexual and wine enjoyment of the islamic paradise . . . except of course they are women. . . .


Keep deceiving yourself.

@Abuzola

Please continue to talk . . .the more you talk the more people get to understand the True Islam . . . . . . thats why for me as a person I would actually prefer you continue to speak . . .cus the more you speak the more you end up exposing True Islam.

Matured and Moderate muslims on this forum know what am talking about . . . hence i would not be suprised if they try to meet you secretly to tell you to reduce your speaking.

[quote author=Abuzola 1 link=topic=352044.msg5037205#msg5037205 date=1259779625]Since hagar was an egyptian then my question is answered. This scrape your remark that arab invaded and colonised Egypt, mind you hagar was the mum of ishmael the father of the arabs hence arabs are linked to Egypt[/quote]See how twisted your logic is . . .

- African inheritance is not through the mother, it is through the father.

- Going by your logic, then it also means that Black African ought to claim Mecca as their own and hence chase out the Arabs.

- Read up on Black Arabs and White Arabs and you would even realise that a number of the "White Asiatic" people claiming to be Arabs and descendants of Ishmeal are not even related to Ishmeal at all. Instead a number of those White Arabs are actually Arabised White Asiatics.

I told you Abuzola that you should please stick to cramming your quran and reciting it and stop trying to get into the area of African History. . . continue to belief that according to Allah . . . blacks are undesirable.

Cough Cough Cough . . . mohammed has black blood in him . . . .cough cough cough

This does not mean that Mohammed himself is Black . . .instead it only goes to show that even your false prophet is not safe from the Black Blood once you go black you never go back.

dayokanu:
1-0 to Sunderland,

0-3 to Chelsea

3-0 to Man City

7-0 aggregate in 3 games.

How do you guys sleep at night?

By considering the current plight of Bayern Munich . . . 

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=358407.msg5037473#msg5037473 date=1259783625]this is why when in America you would want to marry a black woman.  White woman would let the cat out of the bag and in public.  Black woman would bring out plenty drama and misunderstandings to the point you would wish the ground open up and swallow u. . .but trust me, she will keep it all in the house. 

White woman manages marital stress better than black woman but black woman manages husband infidelity better than a white woman.  If his wife was black all these would never have happened. . .  Every sport star that had a similar outing as Tiger's was married to white.  It's not that the ones married to black women were not fuck_ing on the side. . . it's simply the attitude of black woman about husband infidelity.[/quote]Hmmm quite logical . . .

davidif:
Tiger barely even refers to himself as black self, so what do you expect.

I think its a consequence of years of brainwashing by the Western Media that seems to cause some successful black men to behave that way. . . cus to be frank, don't those black men realise that they are better of with black women.

Time and time again . . . history shows that sooner or later whites would try to steal the legacy of those black men once those black men allow their genes to mix with that of europeans.

Most people today do not realise that number of the early greeks show features that are easily seen in Biracial children meaning that they are most likely Africans and Europeans mixtures.

Yet what you find today is that the European media is touting greek solely as an european civilisation (and obviously disregarding the African angle to their history and culture)

By the way, Tiger's wife is ugly, i saw her without makeup and like most oyinbo's without make up they look terrible.

I also keep asking myself whats the big deal with the media and so called white beauty. . . cus frankly apart from having a pale skin. blonde hair and straight nose. I sincerely just find her okay.

ogbronx:
I have also heard the confession of a pilgrim who said blacks pple were stoned there as devils yet thousands struggle to go every year.na wa ooooooo!

Wow I have not heard that one before . . .

1. Is that true . . .can you confirm that what you just said is true.

2. If it is true (a big IF), to be frank I would not be suprised even their Quran itself gives credence to the fact that Allah associates "Black" with "Bad".

ogbronx:
[b]So,the devil can be found at a certian location and be stone yearly without dieing?you throw stones at what is spiritual and probably has great influence on you carrying the stones?[/b]i dont get it.if we stone the devil continiously and he doesnt die,what could that mean.Is he stronger?this is not the first to be heard.thousands have died during this practice.I have also heard the confession of a pilgrim who said blacks pple were stoned there as devils yet thousands struggle to go every year.na wa ooooooo!

That is why laugh at the muslims . . .

- Some of them criticise the catholics for worshipping idols named Mary and Jesus (which they are right to do in my opinion)

- Yet at the same time muslims are also worshipping or venerating The Black Stone, institutionalising the Moon and Star symbol, and saying they are stoning the devil (how the heck do you stone a spiritual being).

0hsisi:
15 Nigerian pilgrims died this year
This is serious.
Multiply that by how many nations of the world were represented,the figure could be mindblowing
Or is it only the Nigerians ones that die

0hsisi:
If 15 people died in every crusade in Nigeria I bet people would think twice before going.

Exactly . . .

Okay i would send it once i finish composing it.

It involves something serious hence i need to compose it so as to make it as self contained as possible.

[quote author=Abuzola  1 link=topic=352044.msg5036378#msg5036378 date=1259770667]@atheism- lets look back to hagar the mother of the arabs, where does she come from ? Is as simple as that[/quote]She is from Egypt . . . meaning that there is a very high probability that she is black considering that Egypt was still being ruled by the original black people as of that time . . .

Abuzola . . . let me guess you probably do not even know anything about : White Arabs and Black Arabs.



You really need to study history a little more to realise that you have been brainwashed seriously . . .

Ask yourself the question . . .where do you think the Black people of Yemen come from . . . . . do you even realise that Black people are indigenous to Yemen.

[quote author=Abuzola  1 link=topic=352044.msg5036060#msg5036060 date=1259768457]You have a dull brain, i don't blame u its your jesu, Is Egypt not an arab state. What a deluded son of the dead crucified jewish carpental gay[/quote]There is no need for insults . . .

Egypt is currently an Arab controlled nation . . . just as America is an European controlled nation. Ancient Egypt is a Black African land . . . it was invaded by Arabs around 639AD, hence why Arabs are dominating in the place as we speak. There are still indigenous black people there as we speak.

EDIT:

Arabs whereever they are found in Africa, are not indigenous to Africa, they are invaders that are controlling stolen lands. . . the kind of invasion and genocide perpetrated by Arabs can be seen in the present day Sudan (where Arabs and Arabised Africans are killing and dominating the Black Africans that originally own the Land of Sudan).

So you see. . . any knowledge that originates in Ancient Egypt does not belong to Arabs just as it does not belong to Europeans instead it has always belong to the Ancient Egyptians. . .

Assuming you are a black man. I am not suprised that you have been brainwashed by islam to the extent that you now even think Egypt belongs to Arabs . . .how sad.

okay i would do that . . . are you at work or not . . .cus its kinda loaded. Hence it would be good for you to sit and properly settle down to read the email, so just let me know when you get home in case you are at work.

So that i would delay sending it until i know you are at home . . .

Abuzola I hope you are not talking about ancient history, if you are i would advise you to please stay away from it. Please do not even go near the issue of ancient history . . .

Europeans stole knowledge from Egypt . . .

Arabs also stole knowledge from Egypt . . .

Please do yourself a favour and stick to cramming quran and reciting it and looking for errors in the bible . . .and then hoping that you would make it over the bridge of hell at the end of the day.

jesoul we need to talk . . . its urgent.

jesoul we need to talk . . . its urgent.

wyrta4me:
[color=#990000]anybody should please send me his or r own copy of exemption letter , i need it for the new job i just got . my school told me my own is not ready yet , and i cant afford to lose this last one . please if u have it u can send me a copy to darktank2000@yahoo.com .thanks[/color]

Why do you want to destroy your future and peace of mind with one stupid mistake.

I would advise you to please wait for your exemption letter to be ready from your school . . . cus your job is delayed does not mean another one would not come . . .

You are about to make a very big mistake and hence i would advise you against it.