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Christianity EtcRe: Oh Black Man Athiesm Insults Thee! by No2Atheism(m): 1:12pm On Nov 11, 2009
OLAADEGBU:
The Negroid stock is even more ancient than the Caucasian and Mongolians, as may be proved by an examination not only of the brain, of the hair, of the bodily characteristics , but of the instincts, the intelligence. The standard of intelligence of the average adult Negro is similar to that of the eleven-year-old-youth of the species Homo sapiens.” -- Henry Fairfield Osborn shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

No rational man, cognizant of the facts, believes that the average negro is the equal, still less the superior, of the white man. And if this be true, it is simply incredible that, when all his disabilities are removed, and our prognathous relative has a fair field and no favor, as well as no oppressor, he will be able to compete successfully with his bigger-brained and smaller-jawed rival, in a contest which is to be carried on by thoughts and not by bites.” -- Thomas Huxley shocked shocked shocked shocked

At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes … will no doubt be exterminated. The break will then be rendered wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as at present between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.” -- Charles Darwin

“In North America the black bear was seen by Hearne swimming for hours with widely opened mouth, thus catching, like a whale, insects in the water. Even in so extreme a case as this, if the supply of insects were constant, and if better adapted competitors did not already exist in the country, I can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural selection, more and more aquatic in their structure and habits, with larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a whale.” -- Charles Darwin

Are our African atheists still proud of their atheists heroes of faith?
I think they are proud of them . . . grin grin grin

Infact one of the renowned atheists on nairaland is actually using the name of Thomas Huxley as his or her username.

Nairaland Üsername: Huxley

My observation is this:

- Most of the atheists on nairaland are fed up with religion.
- They are looking for the truth.
- Unfortunately, they are equating the bible with religion.
- They equate religion with falsehood.
- They do not realise that the Bible and The Messiah is not talking about religion. . .
- Consequently they end up rejecting the Bible and The Messiah because they reject religion.
- They do not realise that The Messiah did not organise a religion and did not promote it either.
- Unfortunately, they end up accepting another false religion: Atheism.
FashionRe: Wat Do U Tink About slim Fitting Jeans 4 Males? by No2Atheism(m): 10:22pm On Nov 10, 2009
am so in love with fitted jeans . . .  grin grin grin grin grin . . . i am grateful for my genes and my jeans.

grin grin grin grin grin  grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

grin grin grin grin SORRY SINGLE BUT NO VACANCY . . . .  grin grin grin grin

I don't give a damn if its designed by tomngozi or ralph by ndukwe so long as the damn thing fits me perfect and just snugs on my body . . . .perfectly.
CelebritiesRe: Megan Fox Is Freaking Hot by No2Atheism(m): 11:44pm On Nov 09, 2009
[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=349550.msg4892339#msg4892339 date=1257806392]plastic surgery
[img]http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/mfoxbeforeaftersurg(1).jpg[/img][/quote]thank u undecided
RomanceRe: What Do You Think Of Nairaland Girls? by No2Atheism(m): 11:09pm On Nov 09, 2009
Whitelexi . . . grin grin grin grin i know say no be only your sister you visit for leeds . . .
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Pilgrims Riot In Saudi Arabia by No2Atheism(m): 10:06pm On Nov 09, 2009
9jaganja:
did the Quran say you can beat your wife or not? Did it order the death of those who chose not to believe or not?Did Mohamad say fever and high body temperature is coming from hell or not? Was Mohamed a Pagan before he started Islam or not? Was the Pagan religion he was practicing circled around Allah and his three daughters or not? What are you Muslims proud of?. Who were refered to as Abeed (Slaves of Allah) in the Quran.

You can wonder where the problem is coming from if you don't want to challenge your holy book. Challenge it and you'll won't have to wonder where the problem is originating from.
Most of them cannot otherwise they would have a nervous breakdown . . . that is why it is highly discouraged for muslims to ask questions. Cus their leaders know that the more questions they ask the more they would lose their muslim faith cus the more they would realise that something is fundamentally wrong with islam.

Catholicism also does not like catholics to ask questions . . . so do not be suprised that islam is also doing the same.

Its astounding that muslims do not realise that there was no quran during the time of mohammed and that after his death. . . there were many different versions of the quran that had to be destroyed so as not to make islam look confused.
RomanceRe: When Your Boyfriend's Best Friend Is Female? by No2Atheism(m): 6:20pm On Nov 09, 2009
stillwater:
You could have kicked her and claim you were doing some dance move. cheesy cheesy
angry angry angry bad girl . . .
RomanceRe: When Your Boyfriend's Best Friend Is Female? by No2Atheism(m): 3:03pm On Nov 09, 2009
sweetpie23:
I do not allow my finace to have female friends angry
smart move . . .
RomanceRe: When Your Boyfriend's Best Friend Is Female? by No2Atheism(m): 3:03pm On Nov 09, 2009
stillwater:
They are just legs. Abi don't you have legs? huh cheesy
to some people, they are just legs . . . to me they are not cus i unfortunately have a thing for ladies with a slim figure . . . (ladies with a slim figure are like kryptonite to me).

maybe i should keep those legs as sovenior grin grin grin grin
RomanceRe: When Your Boyfriend's Best Friend Is Female? by No2Atheism(m): 2:46pm On Nov 09, 2009
stillwater:
Nothing wrong in having the opposite sex as a friend. But these girls are always so annoying, very flighty irritating things. They will look for every opportunity to touch the guy. undecided

Once. tongue
How u dey long time . . . short time to exact.

By the way abeg comot those your legs from your profile, some of us are trying to be normal.  grin grin grin grin

Stilly you r right about the clingy girls,
RomanceRe: When Your Boyfriend's Best Friend Is Female? by No2Atheism(m): 2:34pm On Nov 09, 2009
@stilly

Na true u talk there . . . to be frank its weird for a matured and single lady to be friends with a matured and attractive guy and then claim she is just friends with him . . . . . please eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
RomanceRe: When Your Boyfriend's Best Friend Is Female? by No2Atheism(m): 2:32pm On Nov 09, 2009
stillwater . . . .how many times i take call u . . .
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Pilgrims Riot In Saudi Arabia by No2Atheism(m): 1:30pm On Nov 09, 2009
You are the one who needs to stop idol worship of the moon god, black stone, stoning the devil and false water cleansing . . .

You are the one who needs to realise that you have been deceived from birth . . . islam is not about salvation even mohammed told you all muslims have to pass through hell and then get tested there . . . .meaning that nothing you do here matters if you fail that so called test.

This in itself tells you that your so called false prophet knew nothing about what he was proposing to you.

Arabs would never tell you the truth
Europeans would never tell you the truth.

You need to discover the truth yourself and then decide if you want your own children to also believe in something you cannot substantiate or whether you want your children to be free of brainwashing.
Christianity EtcRe: The Greatest Miracle In Islam by No2Atheism(m): 1:20pm On Nov 09, 2009
[quote author=the_seeker link=topic=48380.msg4883584#msg4883584 date=1257701267]i understand that the bible and science are mutually exclusive. The quran however is not like your confused book that contradicts everything, including itself
the quran is in complete concordance with all proven facts of science including geology. In fact, the quran tell us accuratlly about the 'peg shaped' internal struture of mountains and their stabilizing effects on the crust[/quote]muhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

buahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

sperm
murky spring
split the moon in two
world on pillars

muahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

islam science muaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread by No2Atheism(m): 12:55pm On Nov 09, 2009
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=319383.msg4887887#msg4887887 date=1257767658]U won't win the PREM on the evidence of what i saw yesterday.
Chelsea are simply not good enough and woe betides any group of people that come here to tell me Drogba is better than Rooney.
11 league games against Man Utd. . . . .0 goals.

Rooney OUTPLAYED him yesterday by milesssssssssssssssssssssssssss.[/quote]And Johnny Evans almost killed Drogba with a karate kick to the chest . . .
CelebritiesRe: Does Rita Dominic Bleach? by No2Atheism(m): 12:48pm On Nov 09, 2009
[quote author=THE-AMAKA link=topic=348753.msg4887658#msg4887658 date=1257766108]what is it with you peope and toning sef?
isnt that the same thing?[/quote]thank you . . .

Toning is just a mild form of bleaching that takes longer to have an effect.

At the end of the day, they both are going to have an effect on the skin in the longterm.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Chelsea Vs Manchester United: 1 - 0 (November 8 2009) by No2Atheism(m): 12:36pm On Nov 09, 2009
First fletcher on arshavin

Now its johnny evans on drogba . . .

Men it seems someone in man utd has to actually cause bodily harm before they are even sent off . . .
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Pilgrims Riot In Saudi Arabia by No2Atheism(m): 12:29pm On Nov 09, 2009
Islam is a lie used by Arabs to propagate their socio political agenda . . . hence why fulanis also use the same trick in northern nigeria to rule over people as their so called religious leaders in form of emirs, MOON GOD, STAR AND MOON CRESCENT, BLACK STONE, STONING THE DEVIL, GOING ROUND THE KABBA A NUMBER OF TIMES, BOWING DOWN TOWARDS THE EAST . . . KILLING PEOPLE THAT REFUSE TO ACCEPT AND CONVERT TO IT.

Catholism is also a lie from obvious evidence of idolatory and blatant changing of the bible to suit their needs.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Pilgrims Riot In Saudi Arabia by No2Atheism(m): 12:27pm On Nov 09, 2009
SEFAGO:
Rossike, everything you posted on the transformation of horus/ISIS to madonna is pure bullshit. i hope you know that right? It might convince some low IQed NL posters but it is total afrocentric bullshit. Just wanted to say that. The Madonna is black but that is because of the style of art used during that time- in addition the characteristics of the madonna are still caucasian oalbeit on black skin.

I am not here to argue with you so dont bother replying my post- I just want to make sure you dont pass misinformation to these ignorant people.

Gadogado get the mess away from an inferior group of people's website undecided
style of art , muaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

style of art . , . . . shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

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Thats the lastest excuse i have come to hear . . , .

Men Africa is doomed . . . if educated individuals can see evidence and patterns and yet respond that its something else like style or art . . . men we are doomed from the centuries
PoliticsRe: EFCC Keeps 10% Of Billions Recovered From Debtors by No2Atheism(m): 12:22pm On Nov 09, 2009
Remii:
Somebody tell me, had these banks got services of private debt collectors to retrieve their money from non performing debtors, are they (banks) going to pay for the services rendered or not. Please explain because  we may look at this EFCC service to the banks similar to auditors, private security outfits etc. If looked from that angle and the percentage is agreed upon before commencement of service it is legitimate.
Is EFCC private or public . . . undecided undecided undecided
PoliticsRe: Add The Real Becomrich As A Friend On Facebook! by No2Atheism(m): 11:52am On Nov 09, 2009
@onye ngbu

And am sorry for bashing and insulting you  grin grin grin grin

grin grin grin grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Add The Real Becomrich As A Friend On Facebook! by No2Atheism(m): 11:26am On Nov 09, 2009
[quote author=onye_ngbu link=topic=348107.msg4887228#msg4887228 date=1257762079]why do you guys have to turn everything into Igbo and yoruba? Is it only igbos that becomrich oppose? As matter of fact he hates the north much more than he hates igbos. That is if he actually hate igbos because we all know he is only obsessed with joining Benin Republic.

Everything  is not always about yoruba people.[/quote]Apologies to you in advance, if your intention is not to harm becomerich . . .


However the way i saw it (and still see it) is that it is not save for becomerich for you to be revealing his personal details on nairaland.

Becomerich himself has already mentioned somewhere that he feels he is being watched or something . . .hence revealing his personal details is not advisable under any circumstance and therefore i would advised you remove both his name and surname from the thread . . . if he decides to post his details himself is his business and not yours to do.
PoliticsRe: Add The Real Becomrich As A Friend On Facebook! by No2Atheism(m): 11:13am On Nov 09, 2009
@poster

Edit:

in case you don't see it:

The reality is that you are basically telling every non-igbo person on nairaland that they have to careful around igbos as regards revealing their personal details . . .this is because :

- Every one knows that Becomrich opposes igbos on nairaland
- Everyone knows that a few igbos on nairaland also oppose him.

Hence for you an igbo person to descend to the level of trying to reveal his personal details is despicable to say the least.
PoliticsRe: Add The Real Becomrich As A Friend On Facebook! by No2Atheism(m): 11:10am On Nov 09, 2009
@poster

Don't you realise that you are disgracing igbos by trying to invade becomrich's privacy . . . do you hate yorubas so much that you are willing to expose someone to bodily harm just to make your point.

It seems some posters on nairaland are more dangerous than they look.

@spikedcylinder please kindly find a moderator that can edit the post and remove becomerichs's name and detials from the thread.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Pilgrims Riot In Saudi Arabia by No2Atheism(m): 1:26am On Nov 09, 2009
ROSSIKE:
What a beautiful discussion. Kudos to blackspade, Atheist and co, for the refreshing level of intelligence they've displayed in this debate.

The key to the current African status as recipients of Others' religion, as well as its underdeveloped state relative to the west, lies in the loss of the north African coasts in antiquity, to foreign invaders, the descendants of whom occupy the north African coast today.


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The northern tip of the continent was long ago peopled by huge black majorities, with Egypt, the epicenter of black and global civilization for 5000 years.

The trade and knowledge exchanged by the world's peoples centered around the Mediterrenean Interconnectivity Zone - the Information Superhighway of antiquity, a geographical convergence of East, West, North and Southern trading ships and meeting place for the world's merchants, politicians, philosophers, and scientists.

It was in this zone that ancient African civilization was disseminated around the world - the invention of writing, Religion, Laws, Bureaucracy, Architecture, Medicine, Mathematics, The sciences.

These were all the inventions of black African people who founded Egypt, and ruled for thousands of years before the Hyksos (led by their god, Seth, Esu, or satan), and later Greek, and finally, Arab invasions of the 600s AD, succeeded in forcing the blacks to migrate, over centuries, further down into ''sub-Saharan'' Africa.

This is what accounts for the uniform accounts among ''sub Saharan'' groups of having migrated 'from the north' in ancient times.

Once Africans lost the control of the northern coasts, and got further hemmed in by the ever encroaching Sahara (which was once a fertile region filled with cities and rivers), they lost several things - direct trade access with the world, and participation in the knowledge revolution that was soon to spread among those still with access to the Interconnectivity Zone.

The Africans moved further south and established empires that sought to re-create the ancient glories of the Nile Valley - Ghana - Mali - Songhai. In doing this the rulers discovered that they needed to be on the right side with those who now held the coasts to the north - now muslim Arabs. They became dependent on the invaders for trade and information access to the world.

The success of the empires depended on the Trans Saharan trade. These routes were controlled by Arabs the further up you went,  all the way to the coast, and the long trade caravans from the south were frequently hijacked and disrupted by vicious Arab marauding gangs.

Conversion to Islam by the rulers of the black empires tended to ensure safe passage of the goods, salt, gold, ivory, and other items destined for Europe and Asia.

This was the beginning of the African jettisoning his wondrous and ancient heritage for purposes of economic survival.

The current battle in Sudan is but a continuation of the relentless push of the blacks further and further to the south, by Arab invaders and their Arabized, mullato descendants.

In the ancient world, blacks south of the Sahara were named by the Greeks ''Ethiopians''

Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract.



"They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws."

(1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3)


Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and had given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2).



"Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted. That those who live in the South are likely to be the first engendered by the earth is obvious to all. For as it was the heat of the sun that dried up the earth while it was still moist, at the time when everything came into being, and caused life, they say it is probable that it was the region closest to the sun that first bore animate beings".


"They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honor the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity,"



"The Aithiopians [Ethiopians] say that the Egyptians are settlers from among themselves and that Osiris was the leader of the settlement.The customs of the Egyptians, they say, are for the most part Aithiopian, the settlers having preserved their old traditions. For to consider the kings gods, to pay great attention to funeral rites, and many other things, are Aithiopian practices, and also the style of their statues and the form of their writing are Aithiopian. Also the way the priestly colleges are organized is said to be the same in both nations. For all who have to do with the cult of the gods, they maintain, are [ritually] pure: the priests are shaved in the same way, they have the same robes and the type of scepter shaped like a plough, which also the kings have, who use tall pointed felt hats ending in a knob, with the snakes that they call the asp (aspis) coiled round them."



"There are also numerous other Aithiopian tribes [i.e. besides those centered at Meroe]; some live along both sides of the river Nile and on the islands in the river, others dwell in the regions that border on Arabia [i.e. to the east], others again have settled in the interior of Libya [i.e. to the west]. The majority of these tribes, in particular those who live along the river, have black skin, snub-nosed faces, and curly hair".

(Diodous Siculus, Bibliotheke, 3. Translated by Tomas Hagg, in Fontes Historiae Nubiorum, vol. II: From the Mid-Fifth to the First Century BC (Bergen, Norway, 1996))


Other ancient Greek writers corroborrate these accounts:

Aristotle (384-322 B.C.E.) Greek philosopher, scientist, and tutor to Alexander the Great.

Aristotle is said to have written 150 philosophical treatises.



"Too black a hue marks the coward as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians and so does also too white a complexion as you may see from women, the complexion of courage is between the two."

(Physiognomics, Vol. VI, 812a)



Aristotle makes reference to the hair form of Egyptians and Ethiopians: "Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because the bodies of living creatures become distorted by heat, like logs of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations, and curliness is as it were crookedness of the hair."

(Physiognomics, Book XIV, p. 317)

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The evidence of Lucian (Greek writer, 125 B.C.) is as explicit as that of the previous writers. He introduces two Greeks, Lycinus and Timolaus, who start a conversation:



Lycinus (describing a young Egyptian): "This boy is not merely black; he has thick lips and his legs are too thin . . . his hair worn in a plait behind shows that he is not a freeman."



Timolaus: "But that is a sign of really distinguished birth in Egypt, Lycinus, All freeborn children plait their hair until they reach manhood. It is the exact opposite of the custom of our ancestors who thought it seemly for old men to secure their hair with a gold brooch to keep it in place."

(Lucian, Navigations, paras 2-3)


Stephanus of Byzantium, who is said to represent the opinions of the most ancient Greeks, says:

"Ethiopia was the first established country on the earth, and the Ethiopians were the first who introduced the worship of the Gods and who established laws."

Quoted by John D. Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations, p. 62.


The French writer Constantin-François Volney (1757-1820), in his important work, The Ruins of Empires, extends this point of view by saying that the Egyptians were the first people to "attain the physical and moral sciences necessary to civilized life." In referring to the basis of this achievement he states further that, "It was, then, on the borders of the Upper Nile, among a Black race of men, that was organized the complicated system of worship of the stars, considered in relation to the productions of the earth and the labors of agriculture; and this first worship, characterized by their adoration under their own forms and national attributes, was a simple proceeding of the human mind."

Volney's Ruins; or, Meditation on the Revolutions of Empires, Boston, J. Mendum, 1869


In his book Egypt, British scholar Sir E.A. Wallis Budge says: "The prehistoric native of Egypt, both in the old and in the new Stone Ages, was African and there is every reason for saying that the earliest settlers came from the South." He further states: "There are many things in the manners and customs and religions of the historic Egyptians that suggests that the original home of their prehistoric ancestors was in a country in the neighborhood of Uganda and Punt."


"The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the tallest, most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favorites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race."

Lady Lugard/Flora Shaw Lugard, Asa G. Hilliard, III, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, Black Classic Press (1996)



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Do you realise that the original images of sages like the Buddha, and Krishna were of BLACK people?

These sages were travelling African priests spreading the African message of peace, equity, religious tolerance, and the immortality of souls.

In Africa, ISIS was worshipped as ''the mother of God'', with the child, Horus ast shown being suckled.  This is the ''Orisha'' ''Olisa'', ''Alusi'' of traditional African religion carried on to this day.

https://wysinger.homestead.com/files/isis9.jpg
Isis cradling Horus

https://www.rupertwace.co.uk/oct2008/eg_00347_Isis-and-Horus-d.jpg

[img]http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/isis_black.jpg[/img]


[img]http://theformerfundie.files./2008/12/isismarie.jpg[/img]
Isis/Horus = Mary/Jesus


This African religion was exported to Europe. Europeans for several centuries worshipped Osiris and his wife Isis and their son Horus. (Horus Ast).

Christianity incorporated the essential elements of this African religion, resulting in the prepondrance of Black Madonna statues across Europe to this day.

The earliest statues of ''Mary'' were of a black woman. Of course there never was any real virgin named Mary who gave birth to a ''Jesus'', the entire tale being an appropriation of older faiths.

The early Church, in cahoots with the Roman Authorities, simply transferred the object of worship from a black Isis to a black ''Mary'' in order to draw in the ''pagans'' into christianity.

Thus was born the black Madonna statues, across Europe

https://www.joytravelonline.com/chartres_bm.jpg

[img]http://lemurianelders.files./2006/08/black-madonna-75.jpg?w=224&h=330[/img]
This is the black Madonna of the church of St John, in the Grund, in Luxembourg. She is made of walnut wood, probably in the 14th century in Cologne. She is generally considered to be pregant and the statue is beautiful as is the church she lives in. She has been linked to the city of Luxembourg for the last 500 years.


https://www.acfr.org/special_events/nashville_poland_2009/black_madonna.jpg
Black Madonna, Our Lady of Czestochowa
Church in Poland


[img]http://yeyeolade.files./2007/01/black-madonna-750.jpg[/img]



THE GREAT TRANSFORMATION:

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The old African Gods and Godesses are still worshipped by some in Africa.

Osiris is still worshipped as ''Oziri in Ijaw, Ausar in Hausa, Aesar in Uvwie-Urhobo''

The Urhobo ethnic group still refer to the Benin Monarch as OBA RA KA till today. In Ancient Egypt the Ba means immortal, Ra means the Sun god with attributes of all-powerful, self created, supreme etc, while Ka is the personality of the body. Therefore, the Monarch has the personality of the immortal Sun god.

Shu: The god of Air and Tefnut were the pair of gods who were present during creation in Ancient Egypt. The Urhobo ethnic group brought this culture with them from Egypt . They exlaim Shu when surprised during a discussion. Sometimes, “O” is added to it nowadays to make Shu-o .

Isis : Is known as the divine mother and wife of Osiris and Horus respectively. The Queen of Heaven and Earth. [Known in Urhobo and Benin as Issi, in fact; there is a cult known as Igbe in Urhobo, Benin and London . There is also a region named Issi in Edo State . The Igbe Cult still thrives in London today. The Ancestor of some Urhobo people is known as Isis , variously called Esezi , Userkere , and Isesi in especially Okpe sub-cultural group of Urhobo . Pharaoh Djedakare of the 5 th dynasty which date back to 2465-2323 BC was also known and called Isesi ].

Osiris (Asar): The god of the underworld (He was killed by Seth [Esu in Yoruba, Satan in English] identified as the king of the dead, also as a god of inundation and vegetation; represented as a mummified king, worshipped in Abydos Egypt. Seen also as the great judge of the dead. [Uvwie subcultural group of Urhobo in every year perform the spiritual rites of passage from the world to the land of the dead by driving the dead using sticks and leaves in beating roof-top of houses from beginning of town to end of town, they call it Essa (me bie essa hoom, madjirimion hoom, ooh, is a ritual song used]. The Izon ethnic group worship Oziri. [Osiris]


http://www.urhobo-world.org/





So basically what's happened (because these systems of worship were established at a time there were no Arabs in existence, and the whites were barely out of the caves), is that those whom we introduced to civilization, simply took our ideas and inventions, repackaged and ''rebranded'' them, and having invested heavily in weapons of war, conquered our lands and hoisted the same learning back onto us, with just enough superficial embellishments to prevent us (or at any rate, most of us) from recognising their roots in OUR traditons.

This is why today, we have the comical spectacle of Africans, who gave the world Religion,  reduced today to embarking on ''pilgrimages'' to foreign lands to seek the Almighty AS DEFINED BY FOREIGNERS.

It is a measure of how far we have fallen.
@rossike

NICE piece i like the way you have stitched together the history of the black madonna . . . i knew about the egyptian connection.

just ignore brainwashed individuals like @gadogado . . . he is either one of thos brainwashed muslims worshipping idols.

Notice the similarity in the excuse giving by catholics and muslims:

Accusation To Catholics: YOU ARE WORSHIPPING IMAGES OF MARY AND JESUS OTHER THINGS.

Response: No we are not worshipping them we are just honouring them



Accusation To Muslim: YOU ARE WORSHIPPING THE BLACK STONE, MOON GOD AND KABBA AND BOWING DOWN TO THE EAST.

Response: No we are not worshipping them they are jsut symbolic



@rossike

We have really fallen very very very far . . . we have basically lost everything about our history and knowledge. Almost everything pertaining to our knowledge and history is in the hands of invaders either Europeans or Arabs.

Arabized Africans and Europeanized Africans are now even our worst enemies cus they are brainwashed and do not know it and are therefore actively even sabotaging African progress . . .

There are many things about me that i don't like, however one thing about me that[b] i like a lot[/b] is that: I HAVE AN INDEPENDENT AND INQUISITIVE MIND SO MUCH SO THAT I ALWAYS TEND TO ASK QUESTIONS. I HAVE A PROBLEM CONFORMING TO DOGMA. I HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO UNDERSTAND WHY I AM DOING SOMETHING. i HAVE ALWAYS HAD PROBLEMS FITTING INTO THE SO CALLED PROSPERITY GOSPEL AND GENERAL DOGMA IN SOCIETY.

This has helped me a lot so much so that it has helped me to overcome different stages of attempted brainwashing . . .

ONE THING THAT WORRIES ME IS THAT WHILE AFRICA IS STILL SLEEPING, THE ENEMIES (ARABS AND EUROPEANS ARE NOT SLEEPING INFACT THERE ARE DEVISING PLANS DAY AND NIGHT AS TO HOW TO CONTINUE TO TAKE OVER AFRICAN LAND AND RESOURCES)

I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY IN WHICH ARABS AND EUROPEANS WOULD BE DRIVING OUT OF AFRICA ONCE AND FOR ALL AND AFRICANS WOULD RETURN TO THEIR GLORY.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Pilgrims Riot In Saudi Arabia by No2Atheism(m): 10:35pm On Nov 08, 2009
9jaganja:
Holy land ko Ajegunle ni. The most adulterous fellows are in the so called holy land. This is a money making scheme. I have been to Mecca not for pilgrim (Orunmila forbid) but for a friend's Brother's marriage and no, even he doesn't believe in Islam or mecca as holy land. The only Holy Land for me is Eko!!! Eko oooo Eko nile!! Promote that as the holy land and see money coming in for us like mad. Other holy lands are Egypt, Ethiopia, South Africa, Ghana etc,  . Now those are holy lands.

You kiss a black stone, wash your legs or body in some stream, then throw a stone and finally kill a ram. If this isn't equal PAGAN worship then tell me what is. They are all the same
Finally someone that understand what some other black muslims seem to find difficult to comprehend . . .

Islam and Catholism are two religions that have been perfectly disguised that those in it do not even realise that they are pagans . . . worshipping idols.
PoliticsRe: EFCC Keeps 10% Of Billions Recovered From Debtors by No2Atheism(m): 8:20pm On Nov 08, 2009
@topic

grin grin grin

If the topic is true . . . then it means my hunch was correct.

I felt and suspected that it would be near and close to impossible for those banks to collect back their money through EFCC without having to pay bribe to EFCC . . .

NIGERIA WOULD ALWAYS BE NIGERIA . . . its more of a matter of one thief catching another thief . . . nothing changes instead things remain the same.
PoliticsRe: House Of Reps Condemns Yar'adua's Economic Plan by No2Atheism(m): 8:11pm On Nov 08, 2009
People just don't get it . . .

1. YarAdua is not the person in power . . .

2. YarAdua is the figure head . . . of the Fulani hegemony.

3. Fulanis cannot survive in an environment that is working according to merit. That is why they pack themselves like sardines into positions of power once they have an inroad to the place.

4. Do people really think its coincidence that Sanusi is Fulani man and CBN governor even though its obvious there are better qualified individuals for the position.

5. The day Nigeria starts to work and function properly is the day Fulanis are doomed hence Fulanis would always do things that would jeopardise the development of nigeria.

6. People should not even think of war because the West is benefitting from the mismanagement of Nigeria under the Fulanis hence you can be sure that the west would support them if and when there is war. Thus the only way forward for development is silent break up of Nigeria. . . or . . . true federalism in which all regions are divided according to Ethnic groupings and each region is made to consume only its resources and thus develop at its own pace.

NIGERIA WAS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY SO THAT IT WOULD NOT WORK . . . HENCE PEOPLE SHOULD STOP DECEIVING THEMSELVES. . . THE WEST SPEFICICALLY DESIGNED NIGERIA THIS WAY SO THAT THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE PROBLEMS AND HENCE THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE AN AVENUE FOR THE WEST TO GAIN INROADS INTO THE COUNTRY AND ITS RESOURCES.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Pilgrims Riot In Saudi Arabia by No2Atheism(m): 12:04pm On Nov 08, 2009
blackspade:
I admit that I don't know much about Islam, but my main qualm it the Arab supremacy (I have nothing against the religion itself, or people who practice it). I know not all Muslims are Arab, but the "Arabization" of millions of black Africans over the centuries simply cannot go unnoticed. A good example would be the Sudanese people (Northern), who had a very rich history before they were Arabized. While there are some Sudanese who are actually "Arab", they are very few in number and the vast majority of Muslims there are black African. Due to Arabization, pricelss artifacts dating from ancient black African civilizations were completely destroyed (it continues to this day if you read about the dams they're building there), black Africans were forced to abandon their native languages, and learn Arabic. Former Sudanese president Gaafar Nimeiry was very active in promoting pan-arabism; however, not all signs of black african culture are gone. For example, Somali women are known to have very colorful traditional dress, but a sweeping new wave of Islam originating from Saudi Arabia is helping accelerate the demise of their colorful dress with the "niqab".

Traditional Somali Dress:

[img]http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files./2008/07/somali-girls.jpg[/img]

Niqab:

[img]http://muhajabat.files./2009/03/779px-niqab.jpg[/img]

Sudanese Arabs:

https://www.juancole.com/graphics/janjawid.jpg

https://farm1.static.flickr.com/24/41484523_6a4752237c_o.jpg

Ancient Black African Civilization: Nubia

https://ancientneareast.tripod.com/IMAGES/SudanNubia.jpg

https://wysinger.homestead.com/files/medinet01_54_187.jpg

https://wysinger.homestead.com/houy21.jpg

https://wysinger.homestead.com/files/huy767_op_472x6000.jpg

https://wysinger.homestead.com/files/imagenubian.jpg

https://wysinger.homestead.com/e120277.jpg

https://wysinger.homestead.com/files/5h9uy55.jpg

https://wysinger.homestead.com/Nubian_Artifacts_op_800x600.jpg
Due to Arabization, pricelss artifacts dating from ancient black African civilizations were completely destroyed (it continues to this day if you read about the dams they're building there), black Africans were forced to abandon their native languages, and learn Arabic.
1. Am telling you its like a madness its like Black Africans (most especially muslims) have gone mad with every generation. . . .this kind of madness is one in which the person actually looks and acts normal hence would not even know it.

2. What Arabs are doing is what Europeans are also doing. The only difference is that its easier to see that of Europeans . . .

3. It astounds me that Black Muslims do not see nor understand that Original white arabs were stack illiterates who had no culture nor heritage to boost of, hence what they the arabs are doing to steal the heritage of people they conquer and brainwash. What cannot be stolen is just destroyed. That is why you see that historical artefacts and locations are being destroyed in either Egypt or Nubia i.e. Sudan.

4. It seems black muslims do not understand that most of the places occupied by Arabs today were actually part of Black Africa in the ancient times and that they are occupied today by Arabs simply becauase Genocide and war forced out the black africans from there.

5. It astounds me that Black muslims would claim to fight idol worshipp, yet they can't seem to make the mental connection that they are literarily worshipping the black stone in the East by "bowing" down towards the east whenever they claim to be praying.

6. I am really confused as to what can be done to take back Sudan and Egypt and most of North Africa from the Arabs . . . and . . . Europeans.

7. Most Black Muslims do not understand that there are original Native Black Arabs and that "technically speaking" some White Arabs are actually Arabised White Asiatics.

8. Sometimes i am grateful I am not the Creator , cus i know i would have wiped out both the Europeans and the Arabs for their aggression and deceit and wars against the black people since time immemorial . . .

9. Most people do not understand that in from History, Europeans and Asiatics have always tried to steal things that belong to Black people . . . why that is the case i have no idea.

10. I don't understand why a black muslim would openly want to condemn and stone an adulterer and peadophile . . . and yet the same muslim does not realise that there is something wrong with him or her when they go ahead to believe mohammed who himself is a worst adulterer and peadophile.

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