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muhsin:
@noetic2,

Do you really know this?

I don't think.

what are u talking about?

Abuzola:
You are pretexting the truth. Too bad 4u

is allah so defenceless. . .why defend him?

littleb:
Thanks brother for your inquiry. MUch have been said on this issue on NL and on internet in general. You can google it to know more. You see, Islam has been an enemy to the west for a long time just because of the different in policy. Islam is the only religion that can challenge the world marginalization as provided by western thinkers. Islam oppose many western ideologies in banking sectors, legalization of prostitutes, nudity of women whereas they called it liberation, alcohols consumption e.t.c. Western thinkers would always think Islam is a threat to their capitalism. However, reverse is the case for them after 9/11, cos it was after a lot of people were reverted to Islam. If Islam has anything devlish, why people with high emotion against Islam will ever thing of joining it without anybody preaching to them? All media captions are high propaganda. Just to say a little.

u know this is false.

islam actually has more evil and is of more harm than good.

I am all ears.

undoubtedly ojukwu.

javalove:
Now i know its not only islamic knowledge u need but also a bit of sincere science research. . .

how old is the youngest mother to ever give birth? still waiting for ur answer

does young motherhood deny paedophilia? please stop making an excuse for mohammed.

nice smile on ya face, . .where did u buy the smile from?

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=299121.msg4220626#msg4220626 date=1248126545]It figures. . . ." For the son of man will come like a theif in the night". . .since sensible people wouldn't let him in he decides to come steal our senses.
Tell the son of man i've got my 9mm magnum pistol. . .[/quote]u never cease to crack me up

I hope u know what awaits u in the world to come?

lofly leopard

I am definitely gonna miss u too.

great lizard




good night. . all the best.

lofly guy

debosky:
Thanks for this.

1. You say no evolution occurred - based on what information? Note I am not saying that evolution as proposed by scientists or anyone else is accurate, I am merely challenging an assertion you are making. The bible tells us God created, it doesn't tell us how he created.

2. You say cats and dogs have no common ancestry. Again, based on what information? The bible clearly does not tell you this, and the argument using kind as shown in the bible indicates that both cats and dogs are 'flesh of beasts'. Now if they produced after their kind, why can a common ancestor not produce two beasts?

This is amazing. so why did u deny evolution in the context of this discussion earlier?
I cant believe this?  was it not u who said the following

debosky:
How does the bible tell us that nothing evolved?  What it says is that everything was created by God who spoke them into existence. Does it tell us in what exact manner/process the creatures came about?

The bible says each creature brings forth after it's own kind - what is this 'kind' exactly? Was it defined as species, genus, phylum or any of the current biological classifications in use? How can you simply jump to comparing dogs and cats as proof of anything? 

How do you know dogs and cats have no common ancestry? 

please make up ur mind before opening ur mouth 

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=292278.msg4197933#msg4197933 date=1247752107]Only a slowpoke and a RETARD would believe the moon came down from its orbit and bowed to some prophet. Not so smart are you now?? [/quote][quote author=Tudór link=topic=292278.msg4201053#msg4201053 date=1247786258]IGNORAMUS!
Go and ask your demented imam, he tell you the story of mohammed and how the moon came and bowed to him or how he split it in half. . . .i'm sure a moronic retard like you would believe your lying prophet.
Abuzola can even narrate the stupid fable for you. . .slowpoke.[/quote]

debosky:
Why you cannot focus on the issue at hand without getting offtrack is amazing. Who mentioned evolution here?

You say cats and dogs have no common ancestry with no proof except for a possibly wrong interpretation of the word 'kind' which is reflected INSIDE THE BIBLE as grouping together beasts, birds, fish and humans in distinct categories.

Now the bible says each produced after it's kind, so if cats and dogs are both beasts (i.e that is their kind) is it impossible for them to have a common 'parent' who produced them?

so what EXACTLY are u talking about. . .when u refer to evolve?

MrCrackles:
The dude is severely bleeped in the head!

u never change ur spots. . . .shameless PIG of the demonic allah . . .he is definitely proud of u.

debosky:
I am not arguing about Adam and Eve - that is clearly stated. My point is this, how can you make a definitive comment about cats and dogs not having common ancestry when the bible groups them together under 'kind' as flesh of beasts? humans are clearly in a different class from 'flesh of men.'
I have made no such connection either, I just ask, how can you say it didn't happen? Based on what evidence?
Did I mention man being made from 'evolving decayed bacteria'? Please let's stick to the original question - there is no basis for saying cats and dogs have no common ancestry from the bible. Yes or no?

whats the meaning of the nonsense above?

is it possible for cats and dogs to evolve and not humans? what theory are postulating?

okay . . . . . 

debosky:
I don't know if it's right or wrong, and I am not proposing any theory - but to say definitively that no evolution cannot be a conclusion arrived at by the text.
I am not deducing evolution, just as I can't deduce anything - I do not know the exact process, all I know is they were 'created' - what that involved is not specified in the bible.
Was this strict definition given in the bible? What about beast brings forth beast? Again, what is 'kind' here? is it the 'kind' mentioned in corinthians referring to beasts, fishes, birds and men or is it related to specific species like cats and dogs?
Not a very helpful answer - how do you know this? Does the bible tell you this? The bible talks about kinds of flesh and mentions groupings that could easily encompass dogs and cats - both are 'beasts', but you sit and tell me they didn't? based on what information exactly?

The bible asked them to bring forth their kind. . . kind referring to their own nature.
The best example there was for Adam and Eve who also brought forth their kind. . .Cain and Abel.
This has absolutely no connection to any one evolving over a period of any time.

Again. . .the bible never told us that God made man from some evolving decayed bacteria. . . . Yes, that rules out the probability of such ever happening.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=298529.msg4213277#msg4213277 date=1248005035]Send this quote to noeticnairaland@yahoo.com. That's where it's needed most.[/quote]why EXACTLY do I need the quote above?

olabowale:
iwo oo nikon nse ntie. lol. o sherole wednesday, america o ni gbagba ku gba o. pele noetic? nibo ni noetic2 dee gba loo? losun ogbeni oja!

too much fiction

debosky:
How does the bible tell us that nothing evolved? What it says is that everything was created by God who spoke them into existence. Does it tell us in what exact manner/process the creatures came about?

so by speaking them into existence, ur theory is that they evolved. . .right?
NOPE. . .thats false. Go and read ur genesis again. . . . .no deduction of evolution. . . they were created and asked to reproduce of their own kind.

The bible says each creature brings forth after it's own kind - what is this 'kind' exactly? Was it defined as species, genus, phylum or any of the current biological classifications in use? How can you simply jump to comparing dogs and cats as proof of anything?

kind means kind. A dog brings forth a Dog. . . .just like adam and eve brought forth Cain and Abel.

How do you know dogs and cats have no common ancestry?

because they dont.

handsome kangaroo

yup

what?

olabowale:
If it was pure replication, do you think Isra wa Miraj event will stand all this 1400 plus years and still going strong? Dont you see the Quran standing since then? is this an amazing thing? And you said Jesus led Moses and Children of Israel (notice not Jews) out of Egypt? I think you forgot that the body of Joseph was exhumed and taken along and by his Lord Allah, served as the light that guided them?!

And tell when did Jesus lead the 124,000 messengers/prophets in salah at Masjid Aqsa, again? When did Jesus go to Seven heavens, and beyond Sitra Mutahadah (the Lote Tree of the farthest) and make sajdah to Allah tabaraka wa tahala? And when did Jesus come back to earth? Muhammad did all of these, and we are still waiting for Jesus to return, while Muhammad did all of these in just part of a single Night! Allah says a day could be as long as He wants to make it, 5000 years, 10,000 years, 50,000 years or what He Wills. Take your pick.

All of the above happened only in allah's imagination.

Alla may have stopped everything for Muhammad to ascent, etc and descend and be in Makka, all in the Will of Al Jabbar! Now consider that and see who is at fault, with your faux par!

when and how exactly did mohammed see Jesus? what were they talking about? 72 shag-able virgins?

Chrisbenogor:
Of course scientists can be wrong, they are humans after all, what I am saying is, recall also that there are varying degrees of being right or wrong and scientific theories work well in nature.
I cannot prove a negative, my position for the dismissal of God stems from the religions argument for a God. There is really none out there that is not vacuous.

ur positions are very dogmatic. . , .u leave no room for comprehension. . do u?

hug

playful camel

creationism

i am not gay. . . .is he?

naughty donkey

javalove:
u lie wivout fact. . . or maybe u just being sarcastic about the whole 9yr old thingy cos u i told u a 9yr old at that time had reached puberty. . .

and again i ask u . . .how old is the youngest mother in the world? the same way u surf the net for lies against islam, u can as well do the same thing now to surf for truth, , ,

how did u come about this assertion? from allah's koran?