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A set of doctrines or beliefs that form the basis of a political, economic, or other system.

from: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ideology

bindex:
When will these pathetic apologist learn to provide evidence for their claims? When does claim equal evidence? Ok lets assume that creationsim is true where are the scientific evidence to back it up?

what do u understand by scientific?

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=295982.msg4180539#msg4180539 date=1247513220]It is implementable in any kind of rulership - democratic, military, monarchy. . . name it.  It is not the rulership that makes the order, it is the philosophy in which the order exist and the mindset of the people is where that philosophy resides, not in the title of the throne or the office of the executive or the rank of the soldier.  You feel me?

I propose that we establish a think tank and then process all that through the channell.


Move away from labels and titles and focus on the vision. . . the philosophical mindset.  Once you do that you will see that the dots connect between each and every one of those leaders and what I propose.  


Of course you are not because you are locked into labels and titles.  This is why the FG does not have a solution for their problem, because our leaders think the way you are doing now.  They are not putting a human face on the problem.  Labels and titles are cold ways of relating.  Philosophy opens up the true human warmth and the desire to rescue and preserve, this is innate in everyone of us but you see we strive in competition to show off our high IQ to one another and in the process we forget about the human element.  

Look. . . we humans have pride.  We could be suffering in our soul but in public we put on a nice face.  We need a govt that can reach beyond the exterior face and touch the pain in the soul and heal it.  Call it what you may. . .liberalism, conservatism, democracy, communism. . .  I dont give a crap, just make this country bearable for all of us to live in and enjoy life and liberty.  That's a high call and demands a sense of touch. . . that's why we need a philosophical approach to governance.[/quote]I honestly cannot deduce any ideology from ur posts.

babs787:
@Noetic

The below caught my attention and felt as the most important

Do you care to create threads for the emboldened words and we discuss?

ur fellow muslims and e-terrorists have deleted the threads created for these issues. so u can create one. . . .I will gladly engage u.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=295465.msg4180412#msg4180412 date=1247511410]Are you drunk? You call me ignorant and offer to educate me yet all you do is want me to answer your questions. . .questions i put to you in the first place. Jesus will be so ashamed of you![/quote]what should I call u? u asked for empirical evidence without knowing the meaning of the word "empirical". are u alright?

This is a blatant lie!
Those are not evidences rather they are claims. The story is just told to fit the reality on ground, just like old folklore- why does the tortoise have lines on the shell? "Oh the tortoise went to heaven with the vulture riding on it's wings. At the feast he ate all the food, the vulture left in annoyance and the tortoise had to jump down breaking it's shell, it pieces had to be glued by mrs tortoise hence the lines"- this story is difficult to contend coz indeed lines do exist on the tortoise shell. But we all know this story is ridiculous and a farce just like your bible story.

u never disappoint ur fans.

what are the results of the story in genesis? which of the objects and substances created in genesis do not exist as was stated in genesis?

Which of the accounts in genesis are true?

All of them. which of them is false.

And any evidence to prove this?

The evidence that it rained today is the heavy water on the roof top and the massive ones on the floor not caused by dews, flooding or irrigation.

The evidence for the creation story is the simple fact that all that was created there . . . .was created and exists for all to see till this day.
And guess what. . . . .there is still no alternative.

horse703:
i have not received my answer please

u are gonna wait forever

tunku:
Very liberal. I recognize that nothing is free in this world and if you want "free" healthcare or education it requires the paying of taxes into the public coffer to have those things. Business should be easy to set-up and allowed to prosper, but employees must be given the right to band together and unionize if they so choose. The ideal role of government is as an effective regulator and provider of basic amenities and services that are in the public interest (e.g. electricity, water allocation, e.t.c).

does ur ideology advocate democracy? socialism, capitalism or communism? do u believe in a federal structure?
how does the biafra and niger-delta crusade fits into ur ideology?
which nigerian politician or leader best reflects ur ideology?

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=295982.msg4180290#msg4180290 date=1247510314]I am talking about a total new order for Nigeria. Forget all these borrowed philosophies on democracy and socialist and communist and all that nonsense.  We need a think tank to formulate new ideas completely separate from all the failed ideas of the West.  Their democracy is not working well for them as we have seen, neither is their socialism or communism.  We need new philosophical thinking to propell our growth.[/quote]u did not answer my question. is ur philosophical new order for nigeria implementable in a democracy or military regime?
if u dont subscribe to communism, capitalism or socialism, what then is ur ideology? whats it called? what does it entail?

I dont know of recent history but I will say the combination of Buhari and Idiagbon, as well as Murtala Mohammed.  I also love the vision of Ironsi, although his peers were not so blessed to see that far into the future.  I love what Fashola is doing.

All these people u mentioned have a different ideology. which of them reflected ur own ideology?

If Nigeria has a future then Biafra need to revisit Ironsi's vision and revive it.  If Nigeria does not have a future then Biafra need to revisit the Aburi accord and see what they can recover from it and use that to initiate a set of protocols for a conciliatory separation.    

The militants in Delta is the outcome of bad leadership by Nigerian Presidents.  Before MEND the Deltans had spent years in talks with the government.  It ended in KS Wiwa's execution.  The Deltans have lost trust in their FG and the escalation we see now is a resolve by these people with a choice to fight to death than to live under the terms of their adversaries.  It is a necessary struggle and an inevitable one given that leadership at the central govt is insensitive to their humanity.

All I want to know is how the niger-deltans struggle and the massob crusade fits into ur ideology. I am not interested in who caused their problems.

why are u so bothered about the comments of others?

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=295465.msg4180167#msg4180167 date=1247509009]You and this your ridiculous attempt to brand me an evolutionist. I am an ATHIEST there's a difference you know. . .
Oh thank you! I am ignorant i confess.
Pls show me empirical evidence for creation in genesis 1 and 2. . . [/quote]I know that u are ignorant. . , but I dont think that u should keep embarrassing urself.

what does empirical mean?  

from ur understanding of the genesis 1 and 2 account, who were the characters present there at the point of creation? was the creation there subject to human repetition? human observation? human experience or experimentation?

The resultant effects of the Genesis 1 and 2 account of creation are the EVIDENCES that continue to establish it and refute any suggestion of evolution. Which of the facts in this genesis account is false?

MandingoII:
Religion is one of the most phony, yet interesting, human topics ever. Here are 6 things that prove that  religion is wrong (in the last reason).

1. If God is supposed to protect us from evil and is supposedly omnipotent (everywhere at any given time) and omnibenevolent (the ultimate in good), why doesn't he save us from the present evil already?!

Typical IGNORANCE.

Evil was not created. evil is simply the absence of God.

2. If God already knows the future and created us in his image, then humanity is destined to know everything He knows and we will not have the true free will we have. An example is this very post. I don't know if I will get lots of hate from religious nuts or not so I'm posting this to see the reaction. If I knew what the reaction would be, like "God", I wouldn't be writing this.

This is unintelligent.

free will simply involves responsibility for ur actions or inactions. since u knew that ur posts reflects illiteracy and jejune assertions, didnt u know that ur post will be classified as RIDICULOUS.
make ur decisions, acknowledge or deny Jesus and then face the consequences. simple.

3. If God is omnipotent and not everyone believes in Him, He would do a better job gathering believers.

God also has the power of CHOICE. He chooses to give u a free will . . . . .use it.
come to him or go to the devil.

4. Why would a supernatural being create a universe? Because He was bored to death? He can't desire it because the concept of desire is subjectively human.

Another ridiculous assumption a primary school kid should not make.
whats the basis of assuming that desire is subjectively human? whats the basis of assuming that creation was a product of boredom of God?
are u educated at all?

5. Ma and Pa told me that God meant to make us imperfect. Why the hell would God make us imperfect if He, according to the Bible, expects so much from us as individuals. They never gave me a straightforward answer, or even a relevant one.

u are imperfect because of the first sin. God does not expect so much from u, thats why there is grace in Christ Jesus.

6. Religion is very inconsistent about the idea of God and what He wants from us (if God can even feel desire). So that also proves, not only the non-existence of God, but the inaccuracy and incorrectness of many, if not all, religions.

Ridiculously meaningless rhetoric.

The concept of God is very consistent as far as christianity is concerned. how does ur imaginary inconsistency prove the non-existence of God?

Now I would love to stick around and watch the discussion unfold, but I have a booty call to catch.

  See ya. I respond to your comments later.

please say something else.

toneyb:
So you don't have any scientific evidence for creationism?

what do u understand by scientific? u just keep ranting endlessly.

toneyb:
His "facts" in genesis says that the sun, moon and stars are set  in this strange thing called the firmament but science has show that they aren't set in any firmament they are orbiting and in constant motion.

how many times have ur embarrassing IGNORANCE on this subject being addressed?

toneyb:
So your scientific evidence for creationism is the mythical account that says the earth was created before the Sun or that there is this strange thing called the firmament that sperates the waters above from the waters below. People have been to the moon and back there is no water up there comparable to the oceans. Is that your scientific evidence? Why is creationism banned in public school in the developed world and evolution taught?

u keep disgracing urself. where did I present u a scientific evidence?


[quote author=Tudór link=topic=295465.msg4180079#msg4180079 date=1247507922]What facts are in genesis 1 and 2 ?? I asked you for evidence you give me the deluded ramblings of desert tribesmen. Are you okay?
WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR CREATION?!?[/quote]I will produce as soon as u produce urs for evolution.

if there is anything about the creation story in genesis 1 and 2 u dont understand. . .please feel free to ask. ur IGNORANCE is welcome.

TheSeeker:
Firstly, be matured on here and stop these abusive languages -- this is a forum and don't insult and if that's how you choose to roll let me know.

how have I insulted u?
this was ur first word to my post . . , .Crappy shit! is that a compliment? was the tone of ur post respectful?
u only receive what u give.

You need to understand that he was talked into dating Angel; it was never in his intentions to do that and can you honestly tell me and NL that your friends have never talked you into anything that you clearly objected to at first? It's a normal reaction if you ask me. He played all along and when he found someone else he jumped on her wagon, unfortunately, Angel's friend. It doesn't matter where he met her or who she is the most important thing here are the hearts involved -- one definitely has to ache. That she decided to date Laura doesn't justify it as sexual immorality because that is who he has feelings for now. In my opinion and most dictionaries, sexual immorality means "the evil ascribed to sexual acts that violate social conventions". Now tell me where the sexual acts lie? You need to be updated with your English terminologies and stop confusing lust with sexual immorality. Examples of sexual immoralities are a condition where a guy sleeps with his sister, his brother's wife or any other person that is family, a situation where a guy and a girl start to have sex in the church, in the bus or somewhat close to the public and lots more. Be spot on bro and stop all the cussing, it diminishes your intelligence because that's all you'll ever think about.[/color]

stop limiting ur understanding of vocabulary to gibberish.
being sexually attracted to the friend of ur gf is lust and constitutes sexual immorality. . . . .simple.

he was talked into dating angel, but he had the choice of not going for her. . .did he not? I am not judging the puffy, I am simply stating my opinion.
I have no apology to u or puffy if my opinion does not correlate to urs. Good luck.

in order words mohammed shagged a 9 year old. . , , I get ur point.

at least u are honest for once.

Abuzola:
Sir Olabowale, we do not need to make any mathematics for her age, hence there would be many mathematics on different issues in Islam, Verses such as TAHA, ALIF LAM MIN etc were solved through mathematics, and we Ahlu sunnah wal jama'a reject the claim because it has no basis in Islam, moreover the Prophet never Interpreted those verses.



Again, there is hadith that state the age of the Prophet"s death, if you are interested i can provide it to you, therefore the Prophet"s death wasn"t an analysis

so do u agree that mohammed shagged aisha when she was 9?

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=295465.msg4179932#msg4179932 date=1247506542]What is the meaning of this??
Mr enlightend one WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR CREATION??[/quote]when was the last time u read genesis 1 and 2? that u find a fact untenable does not make it less an evidence.

WHERE IS UR EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION?. . .thou pathetic illiterate.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=295982.msg4179957#msg4179957 date=1247506746]Conservative.

I believe Nigeria should fold into a cocoon and transform internally. It might take 30yrs to complete the growth but when we break out of the shell our destiny will be better defined and promising to readily take on global challenges.

Right now we are only living through the motions, we are not active participants in worldly affairs at all. Thats not good.[/quote]are ur ideas implementable in a democracy or not? a federal structure or not?

are u a democrat? are u a socialist, welfarist, capitalist or communist? which political leader has ever captured ur political beliefs and ideology?
ur position on secessionists (biafra) and the militants in the niger delta?

davidylan:
a little to the right a little to the left.

are u a socialist, communist or capitalist? do u support welfare?

whats ur position on education? free or paid? health?

olabowale:
@Noetic:« #25 on: Yesterday at 11:39:35 PM » I have adressed your Forgiveness issue. I even show you that Allah throws in Mercy. too. Now, everyone will die, muslims or not. Death is inevitable. So take your lump like a man. You cant escape it. No way, no how, no escaping it!

who has allah ever forgiven? why does allah not forgive? why do u have to kill non-muslims?

Just like the Bible's Gospels according to the 4 named, ahadith is like that. It is also according to. Why do we know what is true about the Gospel Verses? The qualities and duties of Jesus have to be the measure of each. The same we we dispute you calling Jesus god, because it just does not jive. It is the same way that we argue about the ahadiths. We only agree if it is in line with the quality of the Messenger (AS). I dont wanna go on debating a dead issue. Let me tell you, [b]whatever the prophet did, I am satisfied with. [/b]I copy him to a "T" if I can.

so u are ok with paedophilia and thighing?

The "IF" of my statement kills any possibility of saying that I said that I agreed. Read it again. If we have to assume that you are correct, it will be the part of the hell that does not burn, like your part that will incinerate you one time! Is that what you want man? To burn in hell over and over and over again, while my side is the spectator part, seeing you suffer?

Let me make it clear to you; there are two arts in a stadium; the athletes parts in the competition and the spectator part enjoying the activities in the shades.

Another is the luxurious part in Nigeria and the sufferring part. Both are in Nigeria.

let me understand u. . . . .u agree that u are hell bound. . .right?

olabowale:
@Noetic:
5:73 to top Muhsin Khan: Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no ilah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilah (God -Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall the disbelievers among them.

5:74 to top Muhsin Khan: Will they not repent to Allah and ask His Forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

5:75 to top Muhsin Khan: The Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary), was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother [Maryam (Mary)] was a Siddiqah [i.e. she believed in the words of Allah and His Books (see Verse 66:12)]. They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allah does not eat). Look how We make the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them, yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth).

The above is just a respond to your statement about Allah not forgiving people. Above, you will see that the door of Forgiveness is opened wide for you to walk right in! Read again!

if I claim to be the richest man on earth, does that make me a rich man?
where is my money? where are my investments?

Allah claims to be forgiving. . . . , WHO HAS HE EVER FORGIVEN?

olabowale:
@Noetic: O da bi pe O ki ngbo nkon mii, ju eleyi ti o ti gbo lakoko! Again, true to form; it is Quran and not Koran! lol. Am just having fun with you. I know you are just trying to put pins and niddles and other obsructions on the path of the muslims. I know that you guys are goneho on calling it "K", yet other words with Q letter you never replaced it with K.

You can't deduce Aisha's by just the statement that they say she said, without considering all the factors of truthful elements with it! That is not a ahadith, based on the definition of ahadith. Secondly, if she was born prior to The year that begins Islam, the 40th year of the Prophet being alive and her father, Abu Bakr being 38 years old, we will have to say that she was at least 14 years old when her father made Hijra with the Prophet!

Noetic, you must have seen a 14 year old tall girl, in England? No? Here in America where for the most part everything goes, this summer you will see the people that young, boys and girls crying on TV to wanna be parents!

The look is not what matters. There is a landmark event to calculate her age. It is the advent of the Islam of Muhammad (AS), next door to her parents! For example, Nigerian Independence is a good landmark event to measure the ages of those of us born in the 1950's of Nigeria. Thinkabout Aisha's date of birth. Rather year of birth for a moment.

I have no reason to believe ur version of events. is there any thing in the haddith or koran that supports ur position?
Aisha stated in more than 10 places in the haddiths that mohammed shagged her at the age of 9. she did not make this statements as a kid, she said this when she was already an adult, when she was old enough to put all ur claims and assertions into consideration.

why should I believe u and not aisha?

TheSeeker:
Another prospective student of a theological college preaching sexual immorality. I'll point out your ignorance to your face. What is sexual immorality in your own world? Where was it said that he had sex with Angel and Laura? What has sexual immorality got to do with a guy falling out of "likeness" from one girl and falling in "love" with another? And what is lust? Yes lust goes with sexual fantasies but I don't see any here neither does anyone else. . . . . . Search yourself and tell who's showing off ignorance. I'm not about to banter words with you.

whats his affection to laura called? lust? infatuation? likeness? whats the basis of this affection and attraction? did I in any way insinuate he had sex with anyone?
what do u understand by sexual immorality? is the shameless lust for laura, considering her rel with angel, not immoral?

please stop embarrassing urself.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=295465.msg4179788#msg4179788 date=1247505291]I don't defend it blindly. I agree it's not perfect but it MIGHT contain clues to our origins.
You on the other hand swear to the accuracy of creation. So tell me WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR CREATIONISM?[/quote] so this is the basis of the IGNORANCE u have been ejaculating. . .too bad

Nigerian political landscape has been embarrassingly defined by tribalism, ethnicity, nepotism and god fatherism.
one can hardly differentiate between the numerous political parties except for their logo's banners and slogans. they cannot be ideologically distinguished.

The first republic politicians, noticeably awolowo had an enviable ideology whose replication has been impossible, since his demise.


This thread intends to discuss the political ideology of NLers.
Whats ur political ideology? what are ur political beliefs? how is ur ideology and beliefs applicable to the Nigerian political environment?
who amongst the present crop of political leaders has an ideology close to urs?

nice kangaroo

davidylan:
Again we get the same recycling of this baseless claim. 200,000 peer reviewed papers bla bla bla . . . and YET none of them can produce just one?

At least huxley had the balls to produce a few no matter how misguided he was. These foolish footsoldiers of his certainly need a few lessons in how to reason.

Where are the papers supporting evolution as scientific fact? If there is none then what's the point disproving what is essentially nothing but a desperate theory? But of course i dont expect the dumb to understand such theory.

TheSeeker:
Crappy shit! And what moral justification do you have to say he's stupid? What makes you imply he thinks he'll get away with it. If you understand what the poster is saying, he's a kind of guy who isn't head over heels with women but with these kinds of men, be sure that when they want something in a woman, they go for it and that's absolutely devoid of any sexual immorality or fantasies as some might choose to call it. And just exactly how he's going to destroy himself? Be realistic and don't let us be so blinded with sentiments. His friends acted on sentiments and now Angel, so sorry to say, will be the payee here(the receiving end of a brutal but meaningful decision from Puffy).

why are taking it so personal? and how does the fact that I dont share ur uninformed view mean I dont understand the issue? what sentiments are my displaying? please hide ur IGNORANCE.

What he has done is simply sexual immorality. . .why was he not honest with Angel from the word go? and if he never liked her, why must it be her friend thats the next catch? the attraction is fuelled by lust. . . .unfortunate lust.

there is dignity in honesty, truthfulness, faithfulness and sexual morality.

Gabry:
Sorry but what do you mean?

u are better off ignoring abuzola. he has the habit of repeatedly constituting a nuisance.

cool, friendly, calm, pretty and a naughty naija chinko