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veecovee:
For the last time, believe it or not stocks are investments, while playing lotto, pools, betnaija, etc is GREED

You can stake or not stake on investments, while ...you can stake or not stake on lotto, pools, betnaija

Fixed. And stop the narrative of those avenues being greed, you can become greedy investing in stocks too. And that is the most important thing you should understand.

Finally, everything should be done in moderation.

robobo:
to help why dont we ask the question " what could motivate otudeko to want to sell what looks like a flagship"

possible answer

HF is becoming a very marginal player as consolidation in d industry is throwing up a clear two major (Flour mills and Olam) who both would control about 80% of flour market while the remaining 20% would only be available for other fragment players (more than 10 of which HF is only 1)


could he need funds to consolidate his hold in some other industry or venture into new ones (like Alhaji) e.g. a consolidated hold in his bank or saw tit bits of some foray into power generation of recent

does HF has any strategic asset (like access to port for DF) that wld warrant some outsize payment from a suitor?

answer to some of this question cld help validate / or reject your gut feeling

Aliko only sold DF because he has higher goals to achieve. The same way Ote$ sold FO to focus on power. In Oba's case, he has a complete hold of FBN and doesn't need money to increase his stake there. He wouldn't sell HF for any reason.

He has plenty cash at the moment but no where to invest. He recently bought the smallest PF by AUM after posting a higher bid than AIg.

Agbalowomeri:
The way lotto is to you is the same way stock market is to some who don't understand the basics. So, everything depends on knowledge and experience; there are some people who engage in betting like a profession.

No mind them, them go dey disturb cyberspace with wetin dem no know. Go to most of the churches, they'll tell you that borrowing is bad. Those who lent money to you will borrow from you is a prayer point.

veecovee:
What are you saying

I referred to lotto and co there.

If you buy and sell here., there's little difference between you and a trader at Alabama mkt.

The different is that your goods are stored electronically

What if I short-sell? You don't know what you are saying and you don't want to budge.

How does playing lotto and pool amount to greed?

veecovee:
Don't compare shares with nairabet, pool, lotto, etc. pls. My father's first bank share paid dividends after dividends for many years.

What is lotto, naijabet, etc, paying you yearly.

It covetousness in the sense that, it's either you win or you loose.

Didn't you read it last week when CP likened zenith as a house built with N3milln that would be bringing N500,000 rent yearly?

What is pool, lotto, nairbet yearly rent

Yen yen yen, you don answer yourself. In shares, you either win or lose. You are only arguing because you think a long-only mkt is all that there is in equities trading.

Agbalowomeri:
Sometimes the peak comes in January/February

Like last year, and that was because of hype and hopes of FPIs

Agbalowomeri:
Bull will return next year na

Between late March and May on the expectation of results and dividends. After that, whoever does not ja is on their own.

STNWAUME:
Well to some BARGAIN HUNTERS that sighted it @t circa N4:40k last Friday and today it's trading @t circa N5:10k that's a DECENT PAPER PROFIT within 2days . So to some of us it's already gas somewhere

That is not the position of Peter, he was mocking a post that suggested the stock would be on offer today and was suggesting it was on full bid.

Congratulations on your entry. I am a proponent of buying at any time and subscribe to averaging up and down, however, the present condition does not support former, I would look to average up between January and February and exit in March April.

veecovee:
But this year alone, I got from Uba, caverton, fcmb, fidelity, access, etc

What you get or believe is not the standard, just understand what you speak about.

onegentleguy:
The maneuverers have caped in that house(UACN)... looking to push down the price to accumulate more prior to more official aannouncements.
...so anyone that falls for their trap does so at their own peril.

They also played out a similar prank with DF prior to the high rallies with more good news(I raised the alarm at the time), and a few other coys in the past, so am not surprised.

UPDC is on full bid, while UACN with far more VALUE and even more benefit with the planned unbundling is on offer. ...I laugh in Spanish !!

They should continue... we are earnestly waiting to load like never before @ the appropriate time !!

Oga, if they push down price, go and buy na. Does that no make for good entry for you?

You folks forget that the market has been on a long lull and brokers would realize any profit that comes their way. Gone are the days, of easy profit, maybe when you guys get a market-centric regime. But under this man, no.

veecovee:
...NSE, you buy part of the company, if they make profit, the profit is shared amongst all as dividend.

You can sell your share any time, the dividend would size coming.

What do you buy when stake in pool, lotto, betting and all the rest

What is your yearly dividend

How do you sell back what you bought

Stop saying what you don't know. When last did you get dividend on Japaul? Who did you sell your Skye bank shares to? How does playing what you are preaching against greed?

When you take any position in the financial markets, you are speculating, the same speculation is what people engage in when playing lotto, pool, etc

Wahala dey, na now Nestle dey start him own.

OakPearl:
Hmmmm...I smell some strange money on the floor of the Exchange.
It may be injurious to be off the market for an impending rally, be it brief or long.
Shine ya eye oh

Oga, na you bring the money?

The session is coasting to a close with about 2.3bn transaction, that amount is about the daily average done. Where is the odour of the unusual money coming from?

PETERiCHY:
Like I predicted earlier this NEXT LEVEL ERA
only the PESSIMISTS will chop and clean
Oya CHIBUBEAR come and TAKE OVER

Mr Peter, don't get excited over anything, the stock is just doing gragra. FBNH is a one man business at this time, until that shackle is broken, nothing will happen that is not normal. The stock lags others in its sector when the market is risk-on so it doesn't have the gas to go anywhere.

veecovee:
... LOTO, NAIRA BET, NAIJABET, ETC. ...

https://www.nairaland.com/3560501/holineness-righteousness-revival-messages-bible/25#82090297

Oga, how are they different from NSE? E be like say you be the product of Heb 5:12.

meshpips:
Okay, 30 - day project over!

Where is my buddy @northeastern, I have got RESULTS for you.

Next time, please don't push me into doing such again okay?

You should be thankful that I pushed you into doing what you think is good for you. If you have found your rhythm after over a decade of playing the market, then good luck with that.

This only proves my point that you were here to seek for funds and then share profits, that is the attribute of scammers that have gone broke after repeated shots of trading personal funds. Whatever you post to counter that fact is irrelevant. In your over ten years of trading forex, I am very certain that this is not the first free money you got from a broker. Since this one has helped your life, you might do well to be deligent with it going forward.

Another thing, stop posting your financial life on public forums, you are just risking your life to prove a point.



My message has been for you to stop soliciting, it is that simple.

Doyin2:
You are very funny.

2011 records in 2019?

Check the 2019 INEC records .


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/02/breaking-buhari-wins-presidential-election-in-kogi/amp/

That is the problem with you lots. You were the jumping from post to post without showing proof of your claim. What you posted is not from INEC, and it does not show the registered voters per local government. Votes casted is not the same as registered voters.

The link I posted is to give you an idea because I couldn’t get a hold of the recent one. You chose to ignore the second link because it does not fit your narrative. I started from the common knowledge that Dekina has the highest number of registered voters, this is fact that is indisputable at the moment.

Go look at the 2011 link, the state has a total of 1.3 million voters then and it increased to 1.6 in 2019. That is about 300k addition, the difference between Okene and Dekina was 35k in 2011, assuming Dekina stays the same, are you saying only Okene accounted for more than 10% of the 300k addition where you have 20+ local governments?

See the 2015 register below, at least that one was done in the electronic registration era.

https://www.channelstv.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Kogi-2015-Governorship-Election-Results.pdf

Doyin2:
The guy is even wrong.

Okene is the most populated LGA ,not Dekina.

Okene comprises mostly of Ebiras.

Oga, you are the one that is wrong. I am even surprised that you are arguing this fact, this is a fact that is common to those that are not even from the state. It is similar to Obio/Akpor LGA in Rivers State or the Ngwa LGAs in Abia State.

Also, the total votes from Kogi Central and Kogi West senatorial districts are not up to that from Kogi East senatorial district.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/features-and-interviews/312054-for-the-record-2019-elections-inec-list-of-registered-voters-in-36-states-fct.html

http://okakachi.994507.n3.nabble.com/Analysis-of-Kogi-State-Voters-Registration-td3205509.html

veecovee:
I agree with you, there are bunch of characters here though, but I've learnt to serve humanity despite their opinions.

God WILL reward all services

Fixed. Which kind pastor you be sef? No stones o, because cp don ask you before.

You just dey do eye service to get recommendation. Pastor wey like money, is that one not a wordly pastor?

currentprice:
them wan say pass weying we don predict

VV
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The numbers of the company will be going forward, the only concern is the dilution that will result from the merger with Ignite.

Even Bloomberg is underestimating their final year numbers

Mcy56:
There is definitely more to this than we know cos they are willing to pay the 66naira.
I think it's better to sell......guess Morgan Capital is one of the houses considered for the purchase i.e. to purchase their clients shares.

It is a SEC requirement that when you buy out a majority shareholder, you must buy a certain amount from other holders that present their shares. How they arrived at just 500,000 units is what I don't know. They have a pool of over 400 million shares to buy 500,000 units from. Assuming 100 million holders validly apply and allocation is made pro rata, 500 units is what you'll get paid for if you hold 100,000 units of shares.

swilo:
Abeg which site be this? How can I be receiving collated updates like this. I only get from meristem but with like 6 or 7 combined na d best.

Na Bloomberg terminal, you pay $2,000 per terminal for month, na companies get an mostly for Naija.

Na my Oga login I use as me still be Seyi and Muyiwa

To all the FO fans, do your dd

Meanwhile Zenith and Gt are the toast of analysts.

Mcy56:
Oga Rabbi, abeg make una help this guy climb up na.
Guess he's trying.......that's the way I see it.

Shebi you dey look for alternative source of income, invest in him with your transcorp loot, let’s see how it goes before we join.

Because deepsuk go sabbatical you don forget say you be police here kwo?

You’ll be demoted once she is back

Agbalowomeri:
Discombobulated knowledge
eeeewwwwoooooooo

Na you I learn am from, the author don edit him post

currentprice:
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Lol.. i notice that also

pple can see the reason it good to view thru 3rd party site rather than cut and paste thingz

Don’t mind him, he’s not wise at all. Link your account, funds will vet it, na you go reject offers. There’s a guy in the US that has trading venues in some European countries including Uzbekistan.

Whoever you are, they’ll give you funds but control the risk. Once you lose .5% in day you close shop. How can you lose over 10% of your account in 2 days and you say you’re a good trader. Placing a standard lot size on a few bucks.

The annoying thing is that I know many like him. They are overconfident but don’t have anything to show because the market always humbled them. They result to this tactics because they refuse to learn that with the market, you don’t know it all.

RabbiDoracle:
FO still needs to fall towards N6.5 to N7. The faster it falls, the better for it.

The guy does not have any model, him just dey blab. A model that would recommend a buy on Access at 5.80 (12% discount) and a buy for GT at 19.42 (34% discount), what sort of model is that?

Someone that doesn't own a stock is the most busiest on this thread. He has gone to form a kangaroo group where he is the only member.

meshpips:
Bros, wetin else I for use? Na the only thing I get be that na.

You people asked me not to post here so I didn't share.

We (in the little Group) had our eyes on that stock since the week started. If not that it closed for that week in a way that invalidated the buy signal, all my people would have been fully positioned.

Oga, stop saying what you know nothing about. You have gone to form group on what you know nothing about. The man you quoted above is a veteran stockbroker that doesn't only trade but understands finance. If you know FO very well, you should have know that the dynamics have forever changed for that stock. The owner that cares about price is gone and it is no longer on the MSCI. It will rally based on fundamentals and when the market is risk on. You are being swayed by the fact that it had traded at 300+ in 2015.

Like I always say, you are delving into a field you know nothing about. The only thing you have done here is to cause confusion and what should baffle everyone is that you are just posting rubbish here without investing a dime. Put your money where your mouth is na. 'An inexperienced man is an optimistic man.'

Engobi:
Ok what if in most cases the applicant wasn’t ask if he/she wrote the test? What if you cgpa is higher than the Sch cutoff gpa? It stil depend on the Sch in USA ��

When people take their time to give a robust response that more than addresses the question asked, you folks would still come up with these your easy out questions. It is not hard, go and try your luck, the person you are asking didn’t appear before the VO without writing a standardized exam. You guys should learn to ask reasonable questions.

waynee2baba:
You have a point but it's rarely. Not tryna flex but I actually had admission with just my GPA for MS in a US University and was encouraged to apply for scholarship.

You can deceive some people but not everyone, in your books, it is only the CGPA and standardized tests that the adcom considers to make admission decisions. You failed to give the specifics of your case and the fact that no two candidates are the same. There are types of scholarships, what you are being encouraged to seek is not a GA position. Scholarship played the final role in my decision to select my school. Despite getting a $65,000 scholarship from Northeastern, I turned them down because I got a GA in my present school.

I have been required on several occasions to enter my GMAT scores when applying for jobs. An interviewer in London had once told me that getting a GA position was no small achievement, I guess she said so because it is not common to get a full scholarship in the UK. The point is, you are better off with a standardized test. The assumption here is that those aspiring to school in the US want to get a job post-graduation, no be to come dey struggle. So, everyone should check the necessary boxes to clear all doubts. That leads me to my next story.

I took the TOEFL yesterday in preparation for a fall 2020 admission. I want to change careers. I met a Naija guy who told me that I was wasting my money, he is a permanent resident. All he had for me was bad news, of how I will not get a job after my program because his friend is stranded in the US after his MBA. He didn’t allow me to say anything because he thought he knew more than I do because he is a PR.
I told him that unlike his friend, my MBA program is STEM-designated and I wouldn’t be needing the 3 years for OPT because I would get my GC few months after my graduation. He asked if it is through marriage, I show him my wedding ring and told him I am married. I told him about the EB3 visa, he didn’t know what it is. While we were on it, his ride came and he left immediately.

Please if you are coming here on F1 and you have $24,000 to spare, you can get the GC before graduation. The entire process takes about 14 months. I didn’t know this when I came else I for don file my i-485 by now. I remember someone here last year saying that he’ll soon get his GC and it is not through marriage, he was a master's student. I strongly believe he was referring to this route.

Update.

I got a couple of PMs which I believe are as a result of the EB3 i mentioned in this post. Ask all your questions here, It will be here for everyone to see and learn from. I know a couple of Nigerians that have used the same route to get the EB3 and some are in the process. My surprise is that everyone kept a tight lip. It was one of my Asian friend that told me about it.

Mcy56:
Oga no vex. I'm the one that asked him, reason he responded. Sorry I derailed the thread.

I be small boy o, what he wrote there is thrash.

The capitalization of Dangflour is 104 billion, if Aliko consummates the deal with Olam this year, the turnover of the company for this year could be 2x at 208 billion. Would you now say the turnover is the wealth of the shareholders?

The guy no get anything to offer, I been think say him wise pass this level.

meshpips:
Greetings ma'am,

Many years ago, I had to make a choice between affiliate marketing and currency trading. These in my opinion are the ones that present the individual with some of the best opportunities.

In my honest opinion EVERY human being is supposed to get a bit of money from the over $5 trillion that exchanges hand daily in the FX market. Think about this:

The world population is somewhere around 6.6 billion while over $5 trillion exchanges hand daily in the currency market.

If we wanted to EQUALLY distribute what changes hand in the currency market among each and every person on the face of the earth then each person should get at least

$5,000 billion/6.6 billion = $757.57 per day.

Yet UNICEF has it that majority of Nigerians live on less than $2 per day and there is about $750 obtainable from the currency market each day.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/152-million-nigerians-live-on-less-than-2day-afdb/amp/

You can also consider offering professional services on freelance sites (www.guru.com, www.elance.com etc).

Kindly avoid HYIP (high yield investment plans).

I hope this helps.

Do enjoy your evening.

I no tell una say na airhead.

Go and collect your 758 per day from the world bank, I hear your name.

The same fraud you've bandied since 2013 on your other thread.

Oga, go and look for what to do and stop disturbing the cyberspace with all this gibberish.