₦airaland Forum

Mbediogu:
You know na- BH, Religious riots, anti southerners riots, tribal upheavals, political intability, long distance from home, etc. etc etc

If you say Boko haram, then it's understandable but is only mostly affects Borno and northern parts of Adamawa.

Are tribal upheavals not also common in the south? Ezza-Ezillo crisis in Ebonyi, Ife- Modakeke, Ijaw- Itsekiri, Ogoni- Okrika, Cross river vs Akwa ibom villages e.t.c
I am in Delta state now and currently Ijaws and Urhobos are fighting in Aladja- Ogbeijoh axis.

Anti southern n religious riots rarely happens.

Talking like this is akin to saying that people should not reside in Southern Nigeria becos of Kidnappers, Armed robbery, ritualist killings, Cultism clashes/rivalry, Scamming/419 that are very very rampant and widespread all over the Southern region.

diuloaku:
is there a building material market in Kaduna? what kind of business strives in Kaduna? thanks for the answers

Really, every kind of business thrives in Kaduna. There is a market for everything. A city as big or even bigger than PH should not have less.

Kaduna is like the Lagos or PH of northern Nigeria (although Kano is somehow more commercialized/industrialized than Kaduna). Since Kaduna has a refinery and oil firms, let me say PH. But Kaduna is more like a complete package compared to Kano.

diuloaku:
how good is Kaduna state? planing on moving to a northern state but don't know which that will be cool for hustling like Abuja... any suggestions will be highly welcomed.

If you are talking of hustling northern cities, then Kaduna and Kano is your best bet.

If you cannot speak hausa at all and you are not good in learning languages easily, then Kaduna is better because about half of all Kaduna residents can speak english/pidgin due to the high population of christians there. If you also are the socializing type, then Kaduna is also a better option for you.

If you prefer a northern city with very good weather and beautiful landscape, extremely friendly natives, very cheap and assorted foodstuffs and vegetables. Then try Jos. Although Jos is not a hussling place like Kaduna or Kano. It's more of a civil service town, but it is neater and comparatively cheaper than Kaduna and Kano. And also not to forget, social life is Jos is very hot and high.

geometricaxis:
The truth of the matter is what difference has having a northern or southern president made to your life? The truth is the the current system is such that no credible candidate will make it be he from North or from the South. When I told people that Buhari cannot do anything on corruption because he rode to power on the backs of Tinubu, Saraki and Amaechi with Fashola by his side....that is a govt going to fight corruption? Similarly some are talking Duke, the same Duke of PDP, abeg!!


The messiah if he exists is neither in PDP or APC, The prpblem is not a north or south problem, the problem is people prefer to vote for crooks.

People prefer to vote for crooks becos of the same tribalism and reigious inclinations.

TheKingdom:
Yes the next president must be a northerner because they are the only serious group in this zoo. Igbo people have some seriousness, but their leaders are the worse, Yoruba love to party with gals and make easy money, the minorities are too confused as to what to do when its obvious as to what needs to be done, the Middle Belt folks are very treacherous and like to be used and dumped and frankly, the North are those that inherited Queen Eliza's corporation...

@bolded
How shameless of you for saying this. In 2011 when middlebelters/northern minorities delivered 8 states to the Southern GEJ, where were you?

In 2015 elections, Southern Kaduna delivered more votes to your GEJ than a whole Abia state (with Aba the most populated Igbo city). Wht a shame. Should middlebelters die for Southerners first? What has the south done for middlebelters to enforce a sense of brotherhood?
Never you in your life insult middlebelters!

sebali:
I picked a SS cos ibos won't vote a yoruba man and yorubas won't vote an ibo man... They don't lik each other... So a SS candidate is wat can unite the entire south 4 now... A Christian middlebeltern is cool doh.... I agree with you the candidate has to be credible.... Bt a credible southerner

I really admire your wish. I am from north-central and trust me, most of us would rather vote a southerner than a hausa-fulani person.

The problem is that things like this have to be done on the table of unity. How many times have we met to agree on things like this? Besides, there are only 2 major parties in Nigeria. Apc is definitely fielding the incumbent. Unless PDP gives the ticket to a non- CoreNortherner, we have no hope. And due to the rotation/zonning system of the PDP, it is believed to be the turn of the north. This is why i call it a wish. It would be difficult.

proudlyYoruba:
What about Amaechi? Dude is Igbo (Ikwere) and he is good. As per the North Central i hope you stop deceiving yourself bro. A southerner can only win when there are two northerners and one southerner. This is the 4th republic and people are trying to bring in equilibrium cause of the agitations from the East, size and alliances are need to win the election. The East so far doesn't have the size nor the alliance, to make them rule come 2023 election will have to be zoned. That's just our country

I am from the north central, pls what do you mean by this comment? Many of us are tired of Buhari especially as he could not tackle the issue of the herdsmen.

FBIL:
I'd try to educate you without cursing you. But those of you from that side are really lazy and empty. Ebonyi state was created same day as Ekiti, Nassarawa, Osun, Yobe etc. But the truth is that Ebonyi(Abakaliki) is currently outpacing Abeokuta and Jos; and has overtaken Akure and Ibadan. At least, you cannot find brown roofs or mud houses in Abakaliki, and the roads are excellent up to countryside. Don't forget they're still Igbo and would do everything possible to look as clean as Enugu or Awka, and make sure that anything that demeans their image would be removed, such as their people hawking instead competing in Alaba market.

Oga can you pls limit your comparison to yoruba land alone? Don't drag Jos into your madness.

ihatesycophant:
It funny the way you see the Buhari voting population as only Hausa-Fulani. All the states you're mentioning and arrogating voting strength to PDP because of certain section of tribe, you will be shocked by 2019 that Nigerians have passed the stage of tribe or sectionalism or religion. All the privileges PDP had in 2015 in Kaduna because of SAMBO would not be there and I am sure the underground work they are going to do would make your like to go to coma. Even the PDP knows that North West is a hot zone for them, if not you supporter that is given yourself lifeline. Kaduna, Kano, Kastina, Kebbi, Sokoto, Zamfara, Niger, Jigawa is going to be won heavily by Buhari and no shortcuts.
To the North East, he's going to win Yobe, Bornu, Adamawa, Bauchi, Gombe.
To North Central, he'll win Nasarawa, Kogi, Kwara, and a good show in plateau.
South West, he will definitely clear Lagos, OGUN, Osun, Oyo, Ondo and Ekiti. If Tinubu and OBJ still back him in 2019.
In South South, he's going to win Edo and get minimum of 25 percent in rest.
In South South, this is the only region he would have problem but I belt you, he will deliver the 25 percent constitutional requirement.
Again you see voting in the lens of tribalism, looking at the section of people living in a place, forgetting that the real Nigerians have gone beyond religion or tribal inclination. You forgot that northern vote has always be who will preserve our interests and it has been like that from time memorial and I don't see it changed in 2019. All other tribes always fuss into the same ideology and that is why you see Igbo elders interface during the northern youths quit notice given to Igbo.

Honestly i give up on you.

The only wrong assumption i'd like to ccorrect here is your claim that the PDP had high votes in Kaduna in 2011 or 2015 because of Sambo. That is very false because PDP lost in Sambo's hometown (Zaria).
PDP lost in all Hausa-fulani parts of Kaduna (Northern Kaduna). Where they got their votes were the Southern Kaduna areas.

Pls stick to analysis of yoruba land politics because you know nothing about northern politics/demographics.

ihatesycophant:
You're streamlining your submission to a section of a state forgetting that politics is dynamic. The IGALA you're even putting in the equal even defeat your permutation. IGALA people will vote him and revote him again. The only place he will have problem is in Okunland and not Ibiraland and IGALAland. In Plateau state he would surely have a good fight and you should be sure he's going to win Kwara state, except Saraki defect to another party before the general election. Surely he may have a rough ride in Benue and Taraba states but surely he would have a good show in Niger and Nasarawa [/b]and will win flat in all the 7 states in North West,[b] win Gombe, Bauchi, Adamawa, Yobe and Borno. That's just for the northern states.

@your bolded. You said Buhari will win all the North west states flat. This further buttresses your ignorance and shallowness of northern politics and demographics.

Perhaps you think the entire length and breadth of North-west is Hausa-fulani populated. I laugh at you.
Buhari has never won election flat in Kaduna state. No! not when you have the millions of Southern Kaduna people in Kaduna. In 2015, the heavily populated Kaduna state was divided almost 50/50. Southern Kaduna people delivered about 1.2 million votes to GEJ against Buhari's 1.3 million votes, you can check the records. In 2015 when many were dissapointed in GEJ, yet he still got about 500k votes (about 32% Kaduna state's votes).
This same scenario played out in states like Kebbi and Kano (albeit) to a lesser degree where you also have a large population of northern minority groups and Igbo communities.

The North east has a worse case. In states like Gombe, Buhari has never won Gombe south senatorial district. Not in 2011, not in 2015. Likewise Borno south.
Adamawa votes are always almost equally divided. In 2011, PDP won Adamawa, in 2015 with all the hype for Buhari, he won, but not up to 60%.

This is typically unlike SE/SS where only in Edo state can you see a substantial support for anything APC. the rest votes overwhelmingly for one party. Buhari nor APC has never gotten up to 10% votes in other SE/SS states.

ihatesycophant:
You're streamlining your submission to a section of a state forgetting that politics is dynamic. The IGALA you're even putting in the equal even defeat your permutation. IGALA people will vote him and revote him again. The only place he will have problem is in Okunland and not Ibiraland and IGALAland. In Plateau state he would surely have a good fight and you should be sure he's going to win Kwara state, except Saraki defect to another party before the general election. Surely he may have a rough ride in Benue and Taraba states but surely he would have a good show in Niger and Nasarawa and will win flat in all the 7 states in North West, win Gombe, Bauchi, Adamawa, Yobe and Borno. That's just for the northern states.

The kind of boldness you use in analyzing the political scenario of my region is quite amazing. It almost seems like you now know my region more than me, well ok

But just to let you know that you are wrong in many areas. for instance, you are concluding that Buhari will win in Nasarawa. Why do you think so? Buhari has never won elections in Nasarawa state, not in 2011, not even in 2015, so why should he win now in 2019 when many people are now dissapointed in him? I hope any viewer and you yourself can see how flawed your predictions are? Based on this, i think i will decline this debate.
But just to make you see that middlebelt votes are not as predictable as you think. Our votes are usually heavily divided. Also, this is not 2015 when many people had high hopes on Buhari. Many people have lost hopes and are willing and perhaps desperate to try something entirely new and different.

I am promising you that the same way the support of GEJ fell from 8 states to 4 states in the middlebelt/NE region from 2011 to 2015 is most likely the same way Buhari's votes is falling too, perhaps worst.
Our people have no time for politics of bigotry, we leave that to Hausa people.

Besides don't forget that your own yoruba people (i highly suspect you to be a yoruba person from your comments and i hope you don't deny this).
Your own yoruba people usually split their votes. Yoruba people never vote 90-100% for one person/party. This was clearly seen in 2015, where even with all the high hopes and shouting for Buhari, yet PDP was able to secure at least 1/3 of yoruba votes. Let alone imagine now that many yorubas are obviously dissapointed with Buhari for scheming their leader Tinubu out of things and relegating their influence in the APC.
With this, it is very Clear that yoruba votes will be highly divided. This gives PDP a higher chance of winning.
APC cannot withstand a divided yoruba and middlebelt/NE.

We all know that Hausa-fulani and SE/SS always vote with bigotry in opposing sides and both of them are populous enough to cancel out each other. The battle ground is always yoruba land and middlebelt.

ihatesycophant:
Let me first of all correct the impression you have about 'cultlike' adjective used to qualified BUHARI's political base. I don't generalised the north by using the word but only directing it to his political base, who come rain, come sunshine they would always come out to front for him and differ any negativity that ordinarily apolitical group will shy away from.
Besides, cultlike in English has different meanings. I believed you're fixing your mind on the general meaning well known to you. I've taken time to google for you some of its meanings as follows:

cult
n
1 a specific system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and deity
2 a sect devoted to such a system
3 a quasi-religious organization using devious psychological techniques to gain and control adherents
4 (Sociol) a group having an exclusive ideology and ritual practices centred on sacred symbols, esp. one characterized by lack of organizational structure
5 intense interest in and devotion to a person, idea, or activity
the cult of yoga
6 the person, idea, etc., arousing such devotion
7
a something regarded as fashionable or significant by a particular group
b (as modifier)
a cult show

Pls look keenly to number 5 and link it to cultlike used in relation to Buhari and try to apologise for being misconstrued.

Now, to the main issue. I've said this before and I am saying it again. You guys permutation of political spread always amuse me. No doubt that Atiku was once a vice president but as of today, he has no political base that he can call his own and that is why since he's been contesting on the platform of opposition he has not had good show because of lack of political base owned by him. His platform has always been an established platform by political parties. This is the edge the like of Buhari and Tinubu have over him and that is why if an election is conducted and those with political base wins, they tag it rigged. Because those with political base, there supporters are always anxious to go to the poll and vote and also stay overnight for months for their candidates while the one without political base would rely on the party for votes. This is one of the backbones PDP has before and brag at that they are everywhere. So there is a clear difference between knowing you as a vice president and having a political base that is viable.
I did told you to bookmark this page, I have helped you and I'll remind you as thing unfolds. You also claimed Buhari has failed people but forgot to put into consideration that 2019 is still far away and things can changed economically, administratively and politically.

Thanks for the lecturing on the meaning of cultlike but i'll pass. At the end of the day, does your definition of cultlike changes the fact that the masses who are unreasonably obsessed with Buhari are mostly Hausa-fulanis?

If i may ask What reason do you think will make the averge Igala or Idoma or Jukun or Plateau or southern kaduna person or any other middlebelter obsessed with Buhari?

Thank God you said Buhari still has some time, let's see if he can give us good enough reasons to vote him again. But one really wonders what he will do with his remaining 1 year (approx) that he could not do ever since.

chngebeginwthme:
LOL now you are differentiating but when Buhari appoint someone from Kogi with the name Abdulahi your likes will rush to call him President of the North..

As far as i am concern PMB will win the North with landslide..

Oga i am from the north! (middlebelt). Sebi in your mind everyone on nairaland is either yoruba or igbo? Pathetic!

Buhari is going to win Hausa-fulani areas landslide, no doubt. But i promise you he will have a tough time with we middlebelters.

proudlyYoruba:
As for the present you are right on point but for our past history, you are wrong sire. Have you taken ur time to read books by Africans and neutral rather than European accounts. Have you opened books on 'HOW EUROPE UNDERDEVELOPED AFRICA' and 'WHEN WE RULED'. Have you heard of the Mali empire which the lowest scholar has atleast a over thousand collections of books, the Benin empire, the Igbo ukwu art, the aso oke making. No, you haven't. Africa was rich and but was plundered and destroyed. Just look if i want to see the wonders of my forefathers i have to get to Europe. The Great wall of benin, the Ghana empire. The richest in the history of humanity is African is Mansa Musa of great mali, a man who bought close to 6000 scholars from Mecca, a man who singlehandedly brought gold down for ten years. The scholars of timbuktu now an improverished town in Mali knew our world (earth) revolved around the sun when their counterparts in Europe believed it was flat. Our books where burnt, our royals killed, our philosophers murdered. That was our AFRICA

Jeeez! Where did you get this picture from? Do you know where or what part of history this happened?

imhotep:
Omenka and danladi7 will vote for buhari

That is their business. They are shameless lots. They should come out and mention one single thing Buhari has done for the middlebelt people in order to deserve our votes.

I am fully in support of anything other than Buhari.

Buhari does not deserve the votes of the people of the Middlebelt.

I can see many people here concluding that the entire northern Nigeria (including the middlebelt region) will massively give our support to Buhari come 2019.

And i ask this question, ON WHAT GROUNDS? what has Buhari really done for the middlebelt and northern minority groups for him to deserve our support again?

Buhari has turned a deaf ear to the issue of fulani herdsmen which has been ravaging the region. Knowing that farming is the major source of livelihood for middlebelt people. Benue state for instance is still yet to get support from the Federal govt on the ban of open grazing.

Hausa fulani people might have benefitted a lot from Buhari's tenure and as such can decide to re-endorse him, but what about we in the middlebelt? Why should we support Buhari again?

chngebeginwthme:
LOL i am not from Adamawa and not even an Hausa person, But going by the politics of Nigeria i can tell you categorically that Northerners believe and trust Buhari more than any Northern leaders today and Yaradua said 2007 election where he defeat Buhari to be a sham and rigging...

Buhari have been wining in the North since 2003 so forget your calculation Atiku cannot have upto 20% votes in the North..

I have one question for you, when talking about the north here, are you referring to Hausa-fulani and Kanuri people or middlebelt people? Which one?
Cos only a mad person will generalize middlebelt and Hausa fulani people together in voting patterns. Cos just as the entire south does not have a common interest, the entire north does not.

chngebeginwthme:
LOL and you forget to put total votes from each region into consideration, South West valid voters is more than that of SS/SE combined so also is votes from North West and North East.

Atiku don't have upto 20% chance in the North as Buhari always win the North even when he was a lone ranger..

South West will vote enmass for Buhari/Osinbanjo as we will not want to loose our chance of being the VP again, Yoruba will rather support our own this time than support a South East VP.. So more than 15million votes from the North and almost 10million from South West is enough for PMB.PYO in 2019.. bookmark this..

Buhari will only win in Hausa Fulani land. We the Northern minorities have no reason to support Buhari Again this time.

If Atiku does his Campaign well, expect massive votes from the North Central and North East.

chngebeginwthme:
Abeg remove North East from your list as Atiku will loose in his Adamawa home state..

And who are you to decide for the north-east? Are you from Adamawa? Let the time come, you will see.

AnodaIT:
I hope you have not forgotten the following in a hurry;
1. Buhari contested under APP in 2003
2. Buhari contested under Anpp in 2007
3. Buhari contested under CPC in 2011
4. Buhari contested under APC in 2015
If you are one of those calling Atiku a most mobile politician while you hail Buhari, come a kneel down here let me pray for you

Don't mind the foolish people accusing Atiku of switching parties. Buhari has a worse record.

ihatesycophant:
I've told you to bookmark this page. I appreciate that you changed your tune of religion to sectionalism. You also appear more emotional than reasoning on the available empirical standard. The use of the words, let this enter your head is more emotional and you need to let it down and be at the side of objectivity.
Now come to states you mentioned. Plateau, Kogi, Nasarawa, Benue, Taraba, Kwara, Adamawa and parts of Kaduna, Gombe, Niger. Aside from Nasarawa all other states were in the hands of PDP then and he won in virtually all, except Taraba State. From 2003 that he started contesting even when in opposition, all these states you mentioned he has been scooping some votes without visible structure. Now that structures are visible and the cultlike supporters are there for him, Mr. man, no one can beat that. Atiku till date has no such structure, except the one built by the party he has been using. That was the same thing that failed Jonathan, he relied too much on party structures across board but forgetting that some people can die because of Buhari and adding it up with APC structures built for 2015 general elections. Atiku has not taken his time to build a platform for his election.
I still reiterate, Pls bookmark this page, and you will later know that your permutation is faulty. That your idea can only work in South South and South East not all states you mentioned. By next year you will also see more alignment and realignment in his! support.

Yes I think I appeared emotional by using the phrase ''let it enter your heard''. This is simply directed towards the effrontery you appear to use in generalizing all northerners as 'cultlike' supporters of Buhari. That is arrogant of you and insulting to the personalities of my people.
You are not from the north as I can assume from your comments, so why just generalize the entire heterogeneous north with one description/assumption?

When you talk of platform, I really don't get the concept. Atiku was once our vice president. Who does not know Atiku in Nigeria? We all know him and that is what matters. Many people are going to vote Atiku because they feel APC is not meeting up to standard and Buhari has failed them. Simple. So they will want to try something new. All Atiku has to do is increase his campaigning and try to cajole and appeal to our people with the right words and strategies. That's all. Just as Buhari enticed us with the CHANGE slogan and Good luck enticed us with the I HAD NO SHOES slogan.

I do not really understand your 2nd paragraph where you said Buhari won all the states I listed except Taraba. If you were talking about the 2015 elections, please Buhari also lost in plateau, Nasarawa and FCT, not just Taraba alone.
Since Buhari was contesting in the past, he was only scooping votes mostly in core-northern states and not the middlebelt. This was why he lost in our region in 2011 but he swept the votes in Hausa-fulani areas. As simple as ABC.
Pls from henceforth, stop using the description 'cultlike' support of Buhari' to describe the entire north! That's very disrespectful to my people and completely misinforming. You can use it for Hausa-fulanis only, cos that is what it is.

Also, for the records, please never make the mistake of judging or juxtaposing the governorship and presidential voting patterns in our region together as you did in your 2nd paragraph. In 2015, Plateau & Nasarawa people voted APC in the governorship but yet PDP in the presidential elections. In Gombe, Buhari (APC) won but PDP won the governorship.

ihatesycophant:
I've told you to bookmark this page. I appreciate that you changed your tune of religion to sectionalism. You also appear more emotional than reasoning on the available empirical standard. The use of the words, let this enter your head is more emotional and you need to let it down and be at the side of objectivity.
Now come to states you mentioned. Plateau, Kogi, Nasarawa, Benue, Taraba, Kwara, Adamawa and parts of Kaduna, Gombe, Niger. Aside from Nasarawa all other states were in the hands of PDP then and he won in virtually all, except Taraba State. From 2003 that he started contesting even when in opposition, all these states you mentioned he has been scooping some votes without visible structure. Now that structures are visible and the cultlike supporters are there for him, Mr. man, no one can beat that. Atiku till date has no such structure, except the one built by the party he has been using. That was the same thing that failed Jonathan, he relied too much on party structures across board but forgetting that some people can die because of Buhari and adding it up with APC structures built for 2015 general elections. Atiku has not taken his time to build a platform for his election.
I still reiterate, Pls bookmark this page, and you will later know that your permutation is faulty. That your idea can only work in South South and South East not all states you mentioned. By next year you will also see more alignment and realignment in his! support.

okay

ihatesycophant:
Your categorization of voting pattern base on religion is warped and doesn't gel. This was the same political miscalculation they did for Jonathan in 2015 that he lost the election. The north will always be north any day any time when it comes to voting pattern. Bookmark this my comment, Buhari will always have an edge in the north whether north east, north west, north central or any part of the north. His political movement is just like cultlike, they don't even mind his antecedent or his error. All they are after is him or nobody. It would surprise you that those you think are against him today would be the one canvassing for votes for him as from next year. Buhari has been having field day in the north even when he was in opposition and that has not changed till date, if you like do permutation from today till 2050, it won't correlate to BUHARI's strength in the north. The only man that can slog it out with Buhari is Kwankwaso because he's also love in the North but not Atiku. Atiku cannot even win in Adamawa his home state. Buhari will flog him well there.
Your religion permutation can only work in South East not even South South, let alone northern states.

You are the one getting everything wrong here. I am not saying that the North will vote based on religion. After all Atiku himself is not a Christian.

All I am saying is that the cultlike Buhari support you are talking of only exists among the Hausa Fulanis and to an extent Kanuris who usually do their things with extremism.
This cultlike Buhari support does not exist among majority of the people of the north central and parts of the north-east. We do not do our politics with bigotry and that was why even when the Hausas did not see any good in GEJ in 2011 and did not vote him because he is a southerner, we decided to give him our votes and we delivered 8 states to him.
The reason why GEJ did not sweep our votes in the 2015 elections was because we were already dissapointed in his government, same way we are already dissapointed in Buhari's govt now. And that is why majority of us will like to test Atiku to see what he can offer rather than continue with Buhari.

But even at that, despite the fact that most of us were dissapointed with GEJ in 2015, GEJ still won 3 states + Abuja in the middlebelt. He also got about 470k votes from Kaduna (mostly Southern Kaduna) which was even more than the votes from some core SE/SS states.

So let this enter your head that the so called cultlike Buhari support or extremist style of politics only exists among the core-northerners. You cannot find such nonsense among the majority of people from Plateau Kogi Nasarawa, Benue, Taraba, Kwara, Adamawa and parts of Kaduna, Gombe, Niger e. t. c.

Sometimes you wonder where the so called development is in Lagos. Cos these are the kind of places conditions that majority of Lagosians live in.

ihatesycophant:
The rate at which you guys deceive yourselves is alarming. I'm asking which of his followers will follow him. The only threat Atiku will pose is if and if Buhari will not contest and it would be another figure but I pray it's not Kwankwaso. Because as at today political permutation, Kwankwaso has more followers than Atiku. You guys always forgot to put to consideration that people of the North, I mean ordinary voters will always prefer Buhari to any other one because they believe he will always safeguard their interests than any other person. Even those following him would vote Buhari in presidency and vote for his (Atiku) candidate in others. Buhari is like a mini-god within the voting class in the North and they form a cultlike assembly when election comes as shown by records since 2003, even when they contested together in the same year.
They know he's just a bad market for the north when it comes to protecting interests. He may have inroad in the South East and some in South South but other regions it would be heavy burden. Also put in mind that the North don't always base their support on competency but interest. It's only South that always think of competency before interests but not North.
Well, there is no doubt that he has bigger wall chest to throw around but Northern voters don't always look at that but only interest base. If it were Kwankwaso that defected, he would have given Buhari camp a sleepless night because North still love him like Buhari to some extent but not Atiku. They see Atiku as a sell out.

maximilano:
Atiku doesn't have a political stronghold, he always wants to ride on an already built platform. Being rich alone cannot win presidential elections, most of his supporters are supporting him because of what they are getting from him not because they are die hard supporters. Unlike buharis Northern supporters who don't need him to give them dollars before they vote him. I think CPC strengthened his political might, Atiku should establish his own party and build from the scratch if he wants to be politically relevant. If PDP fields him in 2019, they've lost before going to the polls. The rejection of APC is not a criteria that Nigerians want PDP back. Smart politicians would take this opportunity to make a statement.

Walelavender:
It's a no brainer Atiku can never defeat PMB in any election. Despite the lacklustre performance of Buhari,his followers predominantly from the North are not gonna give it to Atiku. If you are familiar with the political climate in nothern Nigeria,you will know that cult-like followership of PMB hasn't changed.

It's so unfortunate that we are being presented with ghastly incompetent folks as candidates for 2019. Only an independent candidacy can solve this quagmire.
Let the house pas this bill and let us test the waters

You people should stop saying this because the North has never had one voting pattern. The minority north-east and north-central do not always vote in the same pattern with the northwest.

I am from the middlebelt.
Hausa Fulani Muslims usually vote with bigotry, but northern Christians and middlebelt Muslims do not. And the latter group can readily deliver about 9 out of the 19 northern states. This was exactly what happened in 2011 when most northern Muslims did not vote GEJ yet GEJ won 8 states in the north central and north-east.

SillyMods:
If Atiku picks a VP from SE, it means PMB/VPYO is clearing 90% of SW votes.

Game over then.

Atiku will divide the north, take it or leave it. I am from the north-central and I will likely vote Atiku instead of PMB.
Atiku will get massive voters in the North-central and North-east. And he will win the South-east and South-south

gidgiddy:
How exactly did state creation liberate the minorities?

It gave them their own states? Not really, none of the minorities was actually big enough to make a state and had to make up the number by sharing the same state with other ethnic groups.

State creation made them more autnomous? It did the opposite. Fiscal federalism, resource control and autonomy all disappeared with state creation.


States made the minorities richer? Before the states were created, the Regions kept 50% of of the proceeds of their land, 20% went to the Federal Government snd 30% went to a general pool for all Regions

Today, almost everything goes to the federal Govt and others are scrambling for 13% derivation.

50% derivation still did not make much difference to the minorities because the derived money would still be controlled by the majority tribe as the regional leaders.

Even though no minority group was big enough to own a full state, at least, the effect of domination was reduced. It is much difficult for a minority group to completely dominate another minority group.

Take Rivers state or PH for instance, it is practically impossible for a core Igbo man from the South east to come and rule that place, but if it was in the old eastern region, Igbos can decide to keep on ruling the place forever and nothing any Ikwerre or ijaw or Ogoni native can do about it. In fact, this was the scenario before the state creation. This was the reason the minorities were overjoyed when the states were created.

In Plateau state today, Hausas are denied indigeneship forms. This was something that would never have happened if it was the old northern region. During the old northern region, Hausas renamed a lot of middlebelt areas in Hausa language and installed emirs in places that had no business with emirs. When the Tivs rose up and tried to protest against Hausa domination in the early 60s, they were seriously dealt with by the Sardauna.
Benue and Taraba states could ban fulani herdsmen from their states today. If it was the old northern region, could they have been able to try such?

Because of this stupid regionalism, Hausas dominate Kaduna city (which is the ancestral land of the Gwari people).
If not for state creation, Hausas would probably have successfully dominated places like Jos.

The same way Igbos were dominating Port Harcourt and other minority areas before the war/state creation.

Minority groups will forever remain happy over the creation of states.

Regionalism only favoured the majority tribes (Igbos and Hausa-fulanis especially).

Igbos and Hausas like dominating others. You can see how much they both still want to keep on controlling the middlebelt and Niger delta minority groups.
Only God knows how much Igbos and Hausas would have colonized the minority groups if not that state creation liberated the minorities.

Odukes:
OP, Identity is part of a man's life, Igalas in anambra are not alone in this, there are similar cases in Enugu, Nnsuka to be precise, Igara in Edo state and some parts of Delta and Benue state as well. The local chiefs in these areas still pay homage to the Atah Igala till date, when ever there is any special festival. [/b]The Igala kingdom is the only kingdom in the north that was never conquered[b], their territory transends all this communities that have now become part of southern states in today's Nigeria.

Stop saying what you are not sure of.
Kwararafa kingdom (Taraba) and Borno empire were not conquered by fulanis and they are northern Nigeria.
Tivs, Plateau people, Southern kaduna and some parts of Adamawa, Nasarawa and Gombe were also never conquered, even though these places were not kingdoms.

buchilino:
D DAY I C OR HEAR DAT ALL THESE FUNKY PASTORS VISIT PLACES LIKE ERITREA, CHAD, BOLIVIA, MALI, TURKMENISTAN ETC TO PREACH, DATS WEN I WILL START BELIEVING DER SINCERITY. AT D MOMENT, MOST OF DEM R JUST BUSINESS VENTURES.

Ignorance is truly a disease. If you don't know something, why not make inquiries first before concluding? Winners chapel for instance has pastors and preachers in Chad, Mali e.t.c in the most underdeveloped and islamic countries of Africa. Even up to the Islamic Middle East. They sponsor missionaries in these countries. I am very much aware of this one.