₦airaland Forum

leathalbeast:
the relationship is good and cordial though both nations are competing to see who's economically stronger eg is cocoa production

there are a lot of Ghanaians living there and vice versa. some of the Ghanaians closer to the Ivory Coast border speak French and they inter-trade too. we buy stuff from them and they buy from us too.
lastly Ivory Coast and Ghana share some ethnic groups and they communicate with eachother just that they are separated by French and English

Ok,
Are u Akan by ethnicity?

I really want to understand the etho-linguistic make up of Ghana. Can you help me with this?
It seems like Akan is a cluster of ethnic groups? If yes, does it have a unifying tongue?
What ethnic group is your current president from?
Most Ghanaian musicians e.g Sarkodie what language is that that they usually sing in?

leathalbeast:
well, there's a new government in town and they also plan to create a lot of jobs through agriculture. who knows? maybe we will overtake Ivory Coast and become the world's largest producer of cocoa.

Ooh, i tot Ghana was the largest producer of cocoa?

What about Ghana's mineral industry? All your gold and diamonds. It seems like your country is not focusing in that sector again?

leathalbeast:
there are foreign investments here too but you know unlike nations like China where things are nationalized, for most economies
the bigger your economy grows the bigger the foreign investments too.

It's true.

leathalbeast:
OK, any upcoming developments in your city?

Now that the feud is over, there are many things i have always wanted to know about Ghana.

What is the relationship btw Ghanaians and Ivorians like? It seems like most Ghanaians and Ivorians are of the same Akan ethnic stock, do you guys speak same languages with each other?
Ivory coast is also the most progressive Francophone country in west africa and among the most progressive in subSaharan Africa, how is the business relationship btw both nations?

leathalbeast:
OK, any upcoming developments in your city?

Hmm, both my home city/state and my present city/state (Plateau & Delta) are something else. Our governors are among those failing the country. Especially Delta state which is an oil producing state and is richer.

My home state Plateau though are working on boosting production of locally made agricultural products and there was an exhibition of these products in the capital city Jos today. It's the same thing in most parts of Nigeria we are working on reviving the deccaying agricultural industry.

What about yours?

leathalbeast:
your country has some industries but I think the population is the real factor.
the demand for commodities has forced some individuals to rise up and meet the challenge. I still think you cannot rule foreign investors contribution though.

Our population has been a blessing and curse to us at the same time just like our oil. It is adding and taking away from us.
We have began to retrace our steps since the fall of oil prices and reccession though.

But, talking about foreign investments, most of these foreign companies in Nigeria, don't they have branches in Ghana too?

leathalbeast:
I'm not the one who started this. go and check

Well, u and i can be the one to end it as you suggested.

leathalbeast:
it's simple, Nigeria's GDP isn't just big because of Nigerians only but it's so because foreign investors also contributed a huge part to it.

Foreign investors invest in all countries.

For me, I think Nigerian GDP is really big because of the industriousness and 'i must succeed mentality' of most Nigerians who will never settle for less and will almost be willing to do anything to make ends meet.

leathalbeast:
mtn, dstv , shoprite, promasidor, indomie, etisalat? are these Nigerian owned?

I thought you said we should end the fighting?

Jay254:
Furthest North we have Lamu... One of the oldest towns in East Africa

Welcome to Lamu Kenya

Kenya's tourism sector is among the most advanced in Africa.

We west Africans, it seems like we don't really value tourism and invest in the industry (except for Gambia i think). Probably because we have a lot of minerals and do not have many breath-taking landscapes and natures endowments

Pls i'd like to know, how much is Kenya's tourism industry worth? Can you give an estimate?

Hati13:
First, I was very depressed, because of personal reasons. Then, my father became sick(cancer) and it's started to add more depression. After my father died last August, I became totally damaged. Every second had been pure suffering for the last 2 years.

Tnx for your kind words and caring!

I'm now, visiting my parents home region(Amhara region) and you don't know how mountainous and beautiful the landscapes are. 70% of all Africa mountains are found in Ethiopia. Out of those, most of those mountains are found in Amhara region(Ethiopia highest mountain, Ras Deshen is also found here here in Amhara region). Almost everything you see here are green. Sometimes, the places are so high, that you will drive for a Kilo meter with clouds covering your car and every places. I will take you here one day. It's a must! It's an order! Lol

Clouds covering your car? That must be damn high!
No wonder northern Ethiopia is so cold.
East Africa has a very beautiful landscape and is blessed with natures endowments more than any other part of Africa. I envy east Africans for this blessing.

I hope Ethiopian govt keeps promoting tourism, cos Kenya seems to be dominating that sector in East Africa

And about your condition, i pray for quick recovery for you. I never knew that young people could face depression (pardon my ignorance), i tot this condition only affects people from above their late 30's and early 40's.

leathalbeast:
its a lie, why are some federal universities in complaining of neglect?

Missapropriation of funds and poor leadership of the school authorities.

leathalbeast:
Accra is more like Abuja in terms of the cost of living but like Lagos it provides opportunities. if you are determined you will make it. besides slow profits made legally is better than quick riches made illegally.

The bottomline is that both systems all have pros and cons.

fanficgirl:
True, though I would say birthrate in Southern Nigeria seems to be decreasing while increasing in Core North. Nigeria's population is too big and those bragging about it are idiots. Strict action needs to be taken now.

Birth rates decrease with education.
Core-northerners have high birth rates as well as high death rates.
In a democratic, religious and developing country like Nigeria it would be difficult to place any strict control on birth. You can only educate and enlighten the illiterate masses about it.

leathalbeast:
we don't spend all our money to develop just one university. we have a lot of universities over here. we expand the structures when the population increases. no one asked you Nigerians to over born.

We did not colonize ourselves. So, we could not choose who we were amalgamated with and the population of the colonial territories. It's not a matter of over born.

Nigerian fed govt spends almost equally on it's 37 federal universities to bring them to standard. This is not so with Ghana.

fanficgirl:
Yes, exactly how I feel though I would argue that they still weren't treated kindly. In Algeria there were sepeate areas for the native Algerians and the French. The Colonial Masters actually lived in North Africa and so had incentive to try and develop it, similar story for Namibia, South Africa, Botswana, and Zimbabwe. That is why these countries tend to have better infrastructure.

You are correct about Algeria, but weren't the educated Algerians allowed to live in the french areas? I think they were. The more franconized and westernized algerians were allowed in the capital city and many native algerians were taken to France too.
There was a great degree of intermarriage and acculturation, that is why you see the Tunisians, Algerians and Moroccans are far more westernized than their Libyan and Egyptian counterparts.

Muafrika2:
The wise know when to fight and when to sit back and watch the opponents enemies kick and throw fists into the empty air

More to me like the man who fights and runs away lives to fight another day.
So, you are very free to run away, recuperate and refortify yourself and come back another day. Ciao.

leathalbeast:
it's so because the government charges higher taxes and levies than its done in Nigeria but guess what? those taxes are used to provide the needed infrastructure like water, electricity, good education etc. isnt this what's most important?

Yes, i commend this initiative, it's very good.
But like i said, it also comes with it's drawbacks.
This system does not encourage the thriving self employed population who wish to raise their income levels from little or nothing. And we cannot under-estimate the power of the self employed population to an economy.
This is one reason why Lagos is very rich.
Almost every Nigerian who goes to Lagos even from the poorest backgrounds find more opportunities there and are encouraged to build themselves due to the lower cost of living. This is not possible in Abuja municipality.

vaxx:
why are you using your. i am not a ghanian. i have live both in accra nairobi lagos. and now in erding.am a nigeria by citizen.

it is not only the duty of goverment to provide 100percent jobs to the jobless. it is collective effort of everyone. goverment will only provide enabling envitoment for businesss to strive and investor to invest. if ghana goverment is doing this better than nigeria then it needs to be applauded. ghana expensive is working in the right direction. ghana is not a rich country like nigeria yet she is ahead of nigeria when it comes to human development. it is worth celebrating. ghana is not 100percent better. atleast is doing it better than us. if you a student nurse in ghana .you get paid. if you are in teaching tranning colledge like nce in nigeria you also get paid.

Ok i tot u were Ghanaian.

Yes, Ghana is trying in terms of human development, but this also comes at a huge price due to their higher taxation system and high cost of living.
Accra seems to be just like Abuja municipality where if you are not rich or an active civil servant or worker with a good salary, you cannot cope.

This kind of settings do not encourage the thriving self employed population who want to raise their income levels from little or nothing. This is the reason why Abuja has developed so many and largely populated satelite towns even extending into Niger and Nasarawa states.

Ghanaian schools may be paying students, but what is their tuition fees? Nigerian schools are among the cheapest in the world. Don't forget that some Nigerian states and other comissions also pay their students annual bursaries from the first year.

Muafrika2:
Someone with more patience help this one

It is better you just keep silent in shame as most Kenyans have chosen to, since they can no longer debate with hard facts.

leathalbeast:
you mean Accra? life is expensive only in Accra, aside that things are cheap in other regions. you can ask your fellow Nigerians who live other regions. they will tell you.

Accra is the financial centre and heart of Ghana just like Lagos is to Nigeria, so, it matters the most.
As a developing country, that is the place you are supposed to find the largest thriving low and average middle class population.

Muafrika2:
I see

~ Low density equals to houses with bigger compounds. Larger houses. Rich areas.
~ medium density areas. Smaller compounds, smaller houses, middle class area
~ High density - more houses per square kilometer. Less free space and sdmalle houses. Cheaper too.

If you've live long enough in Nairobi, you mast have heard of residential areas where neighbours sued a land owner for proposing to build a flat, church, etc in certain housing estates.

Haba, i have never been to Nairobi. Did i ever tell you that i have been there?

Seriously, why are you replying me so evasively? You are appearing suspicious. Aren't you familiar with your own city Nairobi? What is so hard in typing out names of places in Nairobi that you know since you cannot help with images?
You guys have been posting hundreds of images of the beauty of Nairobi and Mombasa's expensive areas! Why the evasion now?

fanficgirl:
I don't count North African Countries but Europeans like thw French had a slight hand in helping with development and yes they have better Living standards.

U are very correct. I wonder why some ignorant people usually classify, compare and contrast north africans together with sub saharan Africans.
They had a clear and better colonial advantage than us.

The colonial masters treated them somewhat better than us because they are white skinned almost like them, and they wanted to integrate them to Europe like the french did to Algeria.
So the colonial masters spent more efforts and rescources in trying to develop North Africa to European standards and acculturating their people by intermarriage and ensuring increased literacy among the local masses.

Colonial masters never did any of these in most of SubSaharan Africa, they never had the intention to settle (except for Zimbabwe, SA and Namibia), all they cared about was looting our rescources to develop Europe.

Muafrika2:
Why would I go through all that trouble

The names are on the map. Google theUse this more detailed map...

And how am i supposed to differentiate the low, middle and high middle class areas from the rich and expensive areas with that map? You are the one who lives in Nairobi and can do better in that regard.

Ok don't worry about the images, just help to classify the names of the areas according to their wealth classes. Will ya?

vaxx:
A country that wanted development must pay the price. london is very expensive but you will be fine if you are fully employ. accra is expensive but you will find it lesa difficult if you are engage in business

Expensiveness of Accra will only increase tax revenue for your govt and truly, yes, it will help in development of infrastructures, but it will be a serious setback to the development of a viable middle class population, as most poor people will find it more difficult to climb the middle class ladder due to expensiveness of basic commodities.
Unless your govt can use this tax money to create numerous well paying jobs for the masses in order to enable them meet up with the high cost of living, many poor people will never be able to climb the middle class lader to wealth.

Edu3Again:
The core North' s plans are to islamatize Nigeria.
So that alone makes it a no-no.

Look at all their moves, all to entrench Islam.

But they themselves know it is not going to work.
The sharia law fire they brought in 2001 just to seek relevance, has it not died down? Only in Zamfara and Sokoto do you really see sharia law still very relevant and with the kind of poverty ravaging both states, their people are now migrating en masse away from the states, very soon they will be empty.

They want to fight westernization, but they cannot, as long as they remain in Nigeria with others.
Boko haram has killed their own people more than other Nigerians. So i don't see how their islamization is working.
Many yoruba, edo and kogi muslims are rapidly leaving the religion.

Edu3Again:
We are less averse to the middle belt.

Especially if ur Christian

LoL, okay o.

Core northern Nigerians will improve in education. I think they need some more time and pressure too.
More of them are migrating away from their villages and hometowns to the south and are now getting the hard reality of the way things should be.
Middlebelt states used to be very backward in terms of education before, but we are gradually catching up with the south.
It is just time, education came to the south 50 years earlier than the North, remember?

Edu3Again:
Oh boy, no worry yasef.

we are leaving Nigeria, it;s not by force.

You have enjoyed southern oil long enough, its time to go back to your Groundnuts pyramid

If ur from Plateau state, them we have space for you.

LoL, so you people will accept middlebelters?

Muafrika2:
Are you sure you were in Kenya

I'll illustrate with a pic

Ok, but it would be better if you can help us with the names of the various places and images too.

Let us see what the average and low middle income areas of Nairobi look like. Not the rich and high middle income areas you guys have been posting.

fanficgirl:
That's true. Nigerian businesses have to spend half their money on electricity if they use generator and Ghana is less cut throat and less stressful and safer ( overpopulation and poverty is a recipe for crime).

But how come even with our erratic electricity, the cost of living in Nigeria is very cheap compared to Ghana?

Edu3Again:
we are more than you in number.
we give more than we receive.

In the south we hardly meet any corper from the north.

No worries when we leave una, u go learn

They are there, they don't just advertise themselves.
I am from Plateau and all my family members, brothers, cousins, aunties, uncles everyone all served in the SE and SS and we all met with others from same state and other northern states.

Core-northerners do not go to school compared to the middlebelt and south and that is why the percentage of northerners may look lower and most core-northerners always redeploy back to the core-north.

Edu3Again:
NYSC is simply a ploy to take cheap man power to the North.
They take oil from the South to build the North.
They also take our human resources.
Then they will claim they are more than us in number.

Are u ok? 90% of youth corpers from the North-central are posted to the south.
Or do you want to tell us that North-central people do not go on service or graduate univetsities?

Can't you see that the corpers themselves are northernerns?